Obama makes Berwick's recess appointment official

Via a press release, President Obama today announced that he was making three recess appointments -- including the controversial Dr. Donald Berwick to be the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

"It's unfortunate that at a time when our nation is facing enormous challenges, many in Congress have decided to delay critical nominations for political purposes," Obama said in the release. "These recess appointments will allow three extremely qualified candidates to get to work on behalf of the American people right away. With more than 180 nominees still pending before the Senate, it's my hope that my colleagues in Congress will agree to put politics aside and move forward on these vitally important positions."

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President Obama is making wise choices in otherwise times when there are unwise decision makers in society.

Is it just me or do I get the impression that anytime President Obama does anything presidential, the media makes it out to be a bad decision?

Media Person 1: Senator from the "Party of No", did President Obama act presidentially?

Senator from Party of No: HELL NO!!!!!

Media Person 2: Is president Obama an American?

Senator from Party of No: HELL NO!!!!!

Media Person 3: There you have it America. Thank you Senator.

Give the portion of America that actually uses logic a break from all of the spin.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:47 AM EDT

I am glad to see the President is keeping the peoples business going ...In Nov we can vote out all the republicans who keep the people's business from being done !This is why we need term limits 2 in a lifetime " RETROACTIVE" Kick these " BUMS" all out with NO RETIREMENTS !!!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT

Can someone explain WHY there are still more than 180 nominees pending in the Senate when we're almost 2 years into President Obama's 1st term?

If that's not obstructionism I don't know what it!

Right wing whining from Boner & McTurtle in 3...2...1...

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:57 AM EDT

Feisty,

At least our President is picking them off one by one. At this rate I will no longer collect my Navy Pension but Patty will get the Life Insurance. He should look at all those that have been stalled and activate the most important ones NOW. That is what the Republicans would have done. While at it Joe should either appointment himself as Senator to replace Byrd or pick a qualified DEM to hold that seat until 2012. Why even think of opening the seat to a special election knowing that in this infested environment they may very well loose to a Republican. From what I understand the law is on his side on this one. Hey Joe, where's the balls.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:03 PM EDT
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Could he not at least have had a committee hearing? Are the views of this candidateso bad that they must be kept under wraps?

Is this the transparency so many voted for?

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT

If you have been paying attention, you would know who was nominated and when. You would know why Obama thought they were qualified and why Republicans thought they weren't. You would also know when Republicans put a hold on them or why Republicans blocked their vote to confirm. Do you see the common element here? Republicans.

As of Oct 1, 2008 Bush had made 171 recess appointments, Clinton had 139 at the same time in his terms.. Its tool that Presidents have used for years. If the party doing the blocking or holding up votes, would let the person come to a vote and have an honest discussion about him or her, maybe there wouldn't be a need for recess appointments.

  • 6 votes
#4.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:21 AM EDT

Just what would a committee hearing do no joe all blow? It would just give the republicans another change to make up lies and whine and cry that nobodies listening to them. We all know what the republicans will say, the only word they know NO.

  • 1 vote
#4.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:25 AM EDT

No Joe No Bo NJ

Bush put Bolton in as our UN ambassador and we all know what a great job he did. The Repubs are going to have a problem w/ anyone Obama nominates period.

  • 1 vote
#4.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT

Bolton appeared before the relevant committee. the Democrats refused to release the nomination for a floor vote. then, and only then, was he given the job as a recess appointment.

there has been no committee hearing. Fromwhat I am reading in the Washington Post, Obama did not want his views getting media attention.

there is your transparency.

  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:08 PM EDT

Mo

It might have given the people who don't get to spend time on a computer a reason why the Republicans are saying no.

  • 1 vote
#4.5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT

This is the same nominee the Repubs LOVED when W was in office.

  • 1 vote
#4.6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT

When Bush and others did the same thing was there a peep out of you? I doubt there was.

  • 1 vote
#4.7 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT

Gee, No Joe, I guess the Democrats must've been REALLY impressed with Revoltin' John Bolton! I salute the President on his efforts to avoid a partisan food fight!

  • 2 votes
#4.8 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT

It's hard to be transparent when republicans put HOLDS on every nominee for months. Republicans have put holds on second level staffers. The GOPers told people they intended to stall every chance they had. Cheers for Pres Obama for deciding "nuts" to repubs.

  • 3 votes
#4.9 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT
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Let the health care rationing begin!!

I only hope that Britian's National Health Service, which is so admired by Dr. Berwick, is good enough for average American's (the evil "rich" will still be able to afford excellent care and the best doctors and hospitals will be there happy to provide it to them). I suspect we'll all be sorry when we figure out what Obama's ClunkerCare REALLY delivers. Especially when doctors figure out they're really just highly educated civil servants and hospitals are run with the efficiency of the DMV and the compassion of the IRS.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT

Considering how Health Care is rationed today, by the Insurance Companies trying to keep THEIR costs low and Profits sky high, the Health Care Reform will go a long ways towards dismantling this system by not allowing these insurance cos to disqualify paying insurance holders for medical care based on "Pre-Existing Conditions," things not being covered under those policies and changing people's policies without them having any recourse against such changes of contract. The Insurance Corporations have the blood of hundreds of thousands on their hands and yet THEY are screaming that "This will cause Death Panels (which they already use) and Health Care Rationing (which they do daily) and it will all be the Democrat's Fault (not the Repubs because they refused to vote on it)!"

The thing to do is stop listening to their lies, which are all based on them making obscene profits on the backs of the sick and injured. Making them responsible for Upholding their insurance contracts, and not bilking the customers for the protections that they have paid for, and stopping THEIR rationing of health care for their profits will go a long ways towards healing what is broken in Health Care today. IF the Insurance Corporations do NOT start being responsible players, then we will NEED to pass a Universal Single Payer Plan and put the insurance folks out of business, at least as far as health care goes...One should not have to spend lots of money only to have to "spin the wheel" to see if their medical problems are actually covered and if the insurance company will actually pay for it!

  • 9 votes
#5.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:15 AM EDT

B. Honest - I would bet to wager I share a lot of your values and concur with your issues. Believe me I was for health care reform. I walked my precinct, I called in phone banks. I got a lot of doors shut on my face and angry phone callers spout off to me. Not saying I did more or less than I'm sure you or a lot of progressives did.

That being said what does the current HCR do to help the average american. I don't believe any of the right wing lies 'death panels' etc. Believe me I've tried to read the bill passed. Past the talking points, you've got to admit it wasn't the best.

Without competition how are costs brought down. Not even a public option let alone universal coverage was included. Sure somewhere in there a limit that insurance companies can charge a patient, but won't they just bilk us up to that point? Sure a hard to insure pool and the practice of dropping coverages will go away, subsidies for people will be available to enroll but won't the insurance companies keep bilking people? Where are the price controls?

Once all is implemented only 30 million covered! I remember when Obama was campaigning the estimates were that there was 47 million without health care. As this recession has claimed another 15 million that is more than 60 million without health care. So covering 30 million by 2014 is supposed to be a great accomplishment?

Look I agree with you about single payer, but we needed it passed when we had the votes and political capital. We can all blame the republicans but when 60 votes were there, the democrats misplayed their hand. With a four aces in hand they traded them in for a pair of dueces. Not to be overly pessimistic only realistic. The insurance companies will not be responsible players and no one will want to touch health care again for another decade.

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT

Yellowdog, I agree, the Health Care Reform Bill, as passed, was terribly watered down to get Repub support, but even after that the Repubs went and voted NO against it. The Dems should have gone back to their beginning bill, once they realized that the Repubs would not play fair, and passed their full version, complete with a Single Payer Plan involved.

However, now that the 70 year old ice has been broken on the subject, and we DO have a National Health Care Bill, we can work to fine tune it if the Corporations don't want to play fair. We can make it much tougher as time goes on, especially if, in this Mid-Term election the Repubs lose even more seats, the Dems will be able to revisit the issue and make it appropriately tougher.

I agree that it is weak now, however, that can be improved once the 'Knights that say NO' are further removed from the scene!

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT

B. Honest. HCR was watered down to get Democratic support. No Republican voted for it. The changes were made to get Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln and other Blue-Dogs on-board. As Yellowdog says almost no cost controls were included and the bill turned into a taxpayer funded gift to the Health Insurance companies. The sweet deal that Pharma received from George Bush was left unchanged, and they received a sweeter deal with the closing of the donut hole which accelerates patients past any co-payments to the point that taxpayers are now on the hook for brand name drugs.

I actually agree that rationing (and by extension Death Panels) are required because it is impossible to pay for all health care for everybody. The debate should have been over who decides the rationing. As one pundit put it "85% of voters were worried about costs, and Obamacare extended coverage".

  • 3 votes
#5.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT

B. Honest,

Not only would the Repubs not voted for it, we have Dems that would have voted against as well. We all have to remember in the Grandstanding Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, and Blanche Lincoln. These four also posed a greater risk to healthcare than the Repubs ever did

  • 3 votes
#5.5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:13 PM EDT

The democrats used reconciliation to pass HCR in Congress to get past the filibuster in the Senate. I'm not by any means an expert on Senate rules, but I thought if they only needed a simple majority to pass HCR, why didn't 51 senators rewrite it and pass a bill with the public option or with single payer? Surely they could have done some fancy interpretation to the show that the public option and single payer would save money and not add to the deficit. They proved that the passed bill saved money and didn't add to the deficit.

B Honest - I hope the dems do pick up some seats this november. That doesn't look likely. Optimistically, I see the House loosing 20 seats and the Senate losing six. That is of course with both Dems and Repub incumbents losing seats and each side picking seats up.

Alan - I think the old system in place with insurance company bureaucrats kicking people off coverage for minor errors or denying coverage was the real death panel system.

Hopefully in the future once other legislation is fought and pushed through, the dems can get back to health care. However, It is hard to expect a lot when congressman and senators vote not on what is right or even what they believe in, but they vote by election poll divinations.

  • 1 vote
#5.6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT

The system works soooo well now, doesn't it? We overpay, wait for our appointment, pay for things our insurance was supposed to cover and still have the most expensive system in the world. What planet are you on?

  • 3 votes
#5.7 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT

Mary - If you are talking to me. I think that we are living on a planet where a basic human right like health care and caring for sick people is outweighed by profit margins for insurance companies.

Our doctors and nurses are the best in the world, my opinion as I've lived no place else. I think most in here would agree that the insane markups on their service is because of the insurance companies caring more about their shareholder numbers and profits than actually being a fair partner in all of this.

  • 1 vote
#5.8 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT

Britians Health care IS better than ours...........check the world wide ratings for infant morality and other issues, we are on average 37th! That's right f'king 37th. Check your facts before you speak of something you have no freakin idea about.

  • 2 votes
#5.9 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT

Joe,

Along with KLM, you both must be really misinformed with let the rationing begin! Health insurance companies already pick and choose what is authorized and what is not--you can call that rationing. By chance do you know which political group backs health insurance/drug companies more than the people of this country? Again stop listening to talking points and get better informed.

  • 3 votes
#5.10 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:27 PM EDT

We already have rationed care by private insurance companies. In addition, those same insurance companies decide how much to pay and for what--they negotiate contracts and limit the amount of money paid to doctors, hospitals, etc.

We will see a public option in the future and the HCR improved over time. Without what was passed, we'd have no hope for change.

  • 3 votes
#5.11 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:40 PM EDT
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I hope you all realize that Berwick is PRO health care rationing.  Here come the death panels!

  • 9 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT

I voted for you because I thought you were being sarcastic; but then I remembered you are SERIOUS,...so I'd like my check mark back,...

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:28 AM EDT

Are you really that misinformed? Health insurance companies already ration your health care, please get a clue and stop listening to the talking points.

  • 2 votes
#6.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT

Sooooooo.....you're saying it's OK for the government to ration but not OK for the insurance companies? Health care rationing is not good at all - whoever is doing it. I researched Berwick, so I have no idea what "talking points" you're talking about.

  • 1 vote
#6.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

KLM, fixing the system so the insurance companies can't do that no more is not rationing. Please get more informed, You make yourself look like a, well you input the word not me.

  • 2 votes
#6.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:06 PM EDT
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Say Awesome First Read crew who are the other two recess appointments? No announcement yet? I'm glad that President Obama is showing some balls by making recess appointments to fix the government that the repugnant ones keep breaking and keep broken. Barack should have just cleared the deck of stuck appointees and recess appoint every one of them just to flip the party of sore losers the fickle finger of fate they so richly deserve. If the Insolent Minority wants to block all of his appointments just to keep Obama's government broken then Obama needs to show leadership by bypassing their blocks and showing them that they can't play this childish game on his watch.

Got to love how the limpwristed conservative crybabies here whine about this new show of courage by Obama. Notice how quickly they break out the death panel whine without showing a shred of proof, means they're worried. Besides what's the difference crybabies when the private insurance companies have their own death panels that are condeming a lot of women to death by cancer? A friend of mine's Daughter in Law just got the bad news about her having cancer and yep her insurance company told her she wasn't covered because of their pre-existing condition death panel verdict.

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:05 AM EDT

For the first time ever, I have to say I agree with Eric: Barry SHOULD make all his appointments recess appointments. Just like the minority Dems in the Senate set the stage for abusing the filibuster under Bush, this move will set the stage for the next Republican President to abuse the recess apointment just like Barry is now doing. I'm looking forward to the lefty liberals whining and complaining about their own abusive tactics being used against them, just like they're doing right now about the filibuster. Payback's a b!tch. LOL!!!

  • 1 vote
#7.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:04 PM EDT

Joe in Albany,

Bush did it, so how is this payback? Oh I see, its only when the Dems do something or anything to get the Government moving that Repubs like you object. But didn't Senator Gregg from New Hampshire say something about majority rules and the minority just needs to accept it. Your hyprocrisy is as bad as the ones in Congress

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT

"majority rules and the minority just needs to accept it. Your hyprocrisy is as bad as the ones in Congress"

I guess that you would then agree that when the Senate rules (which were passed with a majority of votes) provide for a minority filibuster, then the Dem majority "just needs to accept it" also. Funny thing about that is all the lefty liberals are SCREAMING "OBSTRUCTION".

So, Phillip do you agree they should "just accept" the Republican filibusters??

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT

Again with the lies. Nobody is FILIBUSTERING anything. Are you people really so proud of your ignorance that you will constantly use the wrong word to describe an action or activity just because someone else does the same ignorant thing? Secret holds in the Senate are an affront to the Republic. FINOs, filibusters in name only, are a lie the media tells the ignorant public, and they believe because they don't know how to question anything they are being told unless it has to deal with sports.

  • 1 vote
#7.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:33 PM EDT

"Again with the lies. Nobody is FILIBUSTERING anything. Are you people really so proud of your ignorance that you will constantly use the wrong word to describe an action or activity just because someone else does the same ignorant thing?"

Someday I hope we will ALL be as smart as you are Paul. Until then, I'm LMAO@U and your reading comprehension skills.

Seems that you totally missed the point: My post was not about Barry's recess appoinments. I changed the subject in my post. It was about whether or not Phillip's belief in "majority rules" applied to the fillibusters all the lefty's are screaming about when fillibusters are approved in the Senate rules by a majority vote.

    #7.5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT

    Clearly it's not going to ever happen for you Joe. The intelligence thing. Filibusters are approved by majority vote in the Senate on establishing the rules of the Senate. The FINO, Rule 22 of the Senate, is not a filibuster, it is an indefinite hold on a bill which can last the entire session. This differs from the filibuster in that no actual filibuster has much chance of lasting longer than five days; the majority of the Senators would soon tire of the inconvenience of being unable to go home or conduct any other business, they would vote it down. The FINO, Rule 22, imposes no such hardship on the minority or the majority so the status quo of the FINO rarely gets overturned. If you don't like recess appointments either have the hearings and vote or don't go to recess.

    • 1 vote
    #7.6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 5:30 PM EDT

    And my reading comprehension is fine, as anyone can see from reading along. What they will also recognize is that you don't understand what you are writing about. There is a difference between intelligence and being informed, between stupidity and ignorance. You mentioned the filibuster five times. I tried to explain to your ignorant self that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans were employing the filibuster, or the "minority filibuster" whatever that is. The actual filibuster is a longstanding Senate tradition, it is one of the things that distinguishes it from the House. It has only been used ONCE since 1984. So how has anyone abused it of late? They haven't! The majority rule discussion is academic and bogus if you are trying to understand gridlock in the SENATE. What is being abused is RULE 22. With the majority leader's consent the minority, with only 41 votes, can shelve forever any piece of legislation. This is not the filibuster at work. Now why Harry Reid is willing to continue to allow the minority to employ rule 22 instead of requiring them to actually get up on their feet and do the damn filibuster is anybody's guess, but the mainstream media avoids that discussion by lying to you ignoramuses by never mentioning Rule 22 instead calling it the filibuster which you dolts parrot in political discussions on blogs like this.

    So tell me again why you and Philip are arguing about the majority rule aspect of a legislative tactic that hasn't been used even once in this freaking century, Joe.

    • 1 vote
    #7.7 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:50 PM EDT

    Paul, you seem pretty impressed with yourself. That tells me you are easily impressed.

    I'm fully aware that current practice in the Senate doesn't require them to stand there and debate endlessly, which is the "technical" definition of the filibuster. However, the current practice in the Senate has the same end result. A rose by any other name still smells the same.

    BTW, I'm guessing you are an out of work lawyer that can't find a job because you waste everyones time arguing about minutia. LOL!!!

    • 1 vote
    #7.8 - Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:33 AM EDT

    The end result is NOT THE SAME, and thank you for proving to everyone that you are indeed an idiot. After I inform you that no one is using the filibuster, you scoffed at the notion, now you claim that you knew it all along, and then you contradict reality by saying exactly what the MSM wants you to think; "the end result is the same." And if you are going to try to quote Shakespeare make the effort to get it right. The ability of the minority to block, squelch, shelve, terminate, eviscerate, whatever word I need to use for you to understand this, stop the democratic process of a bill completely and forever, is not a power provided by the FILIBUSTER. NO FILIBUSTER COULD EVER HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT! Rule 22 on the other hand allows the minority to prevail in perpetuity. This could not have been what our founding fathers ever wanted the Senate to be able to do. Just because the majority of the Senate voted to approve a Rule in the Senate which undermines representative democracy, doesn't make it right or constitutional, the can't vote for cockfights and murder for hire as ways to decide votes on legislation. We're not talking about any kind of "rose" here, what we are all smelling is a pile of crap which you are calling a rose.

    And bad guess, I am not out of work, I have all the work that I need.

    • 1 vote
    #7.9 - Thu Jul 8, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
    Reply

    Bush also had 100's of nominees held up. This is the way Congress operates. This is nothing new.

    • 5 votes
    #8 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:15 AM EDT

    That is what should happen when you have stolen an election. TWICE!

    • 1 vote
    #8.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:17 AM EDT

    I T M - [from Friday pm]

    The “we” is the same “we” as in “We the people …”

    Our military is controlled under civilian authority. Thus, WE have a right to determine the mission {period}. I served 6 years but my point is valid even if I had not.

    It is often said that the Iraq war was unjust because; our country, its territories, foreign bases or allies were not attacked. This was the first ever declared war without being provoked.

    • 1 vote
    #8.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:22 AM EDT

    Isn't it funny how you never want to talk about the past, unless you need to talk about the past.

    • 1 vote
    #8.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:25 AM EDT

    So, Paul, I suppose it's ok if Democrats do it, but not ok if Republicans do it.

    You guys are such hypocrites.

    And nobody "stole" any elections.

    • 2 votes
    #8.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:36 AM EDT

    Check the facts Jill. Just because you are ignorant of the truth doesn't make it go away. Read Greg Palast. Bush stole both elections. And no, I don't think the legislature should be able to hold up appointments for duly elected officials. That wouldn't apply to Bush. The gridlock, in the Senate is unforgiveable.

    And Dennis, I don't believe any war was declared by congress, since WWII. The size of the engagement doesn't make it a war, it is a legal proceeding.

    • 1 vote
    #8.5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:42 AM EDT

    Paul, you really need to adjust the antenna on your tin foil hat, it's getting bad reception and delivering you lots of bad information. Maybe it's the federal Department of Secret Alien UFO's that's broadcasting the beams picked up by your out of tune antenna. LOL!!!

    • 1 vote
    #8.6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT

    Another ignorant chimes in, proud of his ignorance, Way to go Joe.

    Diebold's entire purpose was the enabling of stolen elections, there is no such thing as a re-count of ballots, because no paper ballots exist to be re-counted.

    • 1 vote
    #8.7 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:13 PM EDT

    Paul,

    A Declaration of War was approved at 10:00pm on March 18, 2003 and announced by President Bush at 10:15pm (0315 GMT).

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/19/sprj.irq.int.bush.transcript/

    • 1 vote
    #8.8 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT

    Is it the headline of the article that is confusing you? Congress declares war, not the President. He can engage in warfare, for a limited time without Congress's approval. What was the vote in Congress that declared war on Iraq?

    • 1 vote
    #8.9 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT

    Paul, A Declaration of War was approved at 10:00pm on March 18, 2003 BY CONGRESS.

    I was trying to give you some factual information given your statement:

    "And Dennis, I don't believe any war was declared by congress, since WWII. The size of the engagement doesn't make it a war, it is a legal proceeding."

    • 2 votes
    #8.10 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT

    No it wasn't. Answer my question. Authorization of the use of force, is not a formal declaration of war. I believe you have posted this link to the CNN article before. Under the War powers resolution act of 1973 CONGRESS can either declare war or, the operative word here is OR, authorize the use of American forces. THESE ARE SIMILAR, BUT NOT THE SAME THING. Give tme the vote totals in congress declaring WAR, if you can't do that, don't tell me you want to talk about FACTS.

    • 1 vote
    #8.11 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:55 PM EDT

    Dennis, where in the article does it specifically say that Congress declared war? Look very hard as you aren't going to find it. Why? It isn't there. War has NOT been declared by the US Congress since December 8, 1941. That would be WWII.

    • 2 votes
    #8.12 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT

    WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR FACTS Dennis. *crickets*

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    #8.13 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT

    Paul and Alder,

    Thanks for the lesson. I didn’t understand the difference.

    Today has been good … I learned something.

    And Paul I did post this link before. I wish you would have corrected me then. I try to provide accurate information and making the same mistake twice is unpleasant. If you follow my post you understand I like what you say and almost always agree.

    Again, Thanks !!

    • 1 vote
    #8.14 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

    Happy to help. Glad we understand each other, the search for truth is difficult in a world where our sources of information are paid to confuse and conflate reality with falsehoods.

    • 1 vote
    #8.15 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT

    Paul:

    Go somewhere and sit your stupid azz down with all of these conspiracy theories. Man don't spew this BS nowhere else.

    You sound like a damn fool. Who in the hell died and scribed your name as Jesus Christ the Truth Teller?

    LOL..........stop clowning yourself

    • 1 vote
    #8.16 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT

    You are a sad excuse for a military man. Tell me one place where I have been factually inaccurate. Then provide me with the proof.

    • 1 vote
    #8.17 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:45 PM EDT

    And do me one small favor InThe Middle, go to youtube and watch the "interview" of Dr. Steven Jones on what was the Tucker Carlson show. Tucker didn't last long after this awful piece of "journalism". The guest has supplied the "show" with a digital video file so that they can intelligently discuss his theory about what brought down WTC7. TUCKER MAKES A JOKE OF HIS APPEARANCE BY REFUSING TO RUN THE VIDEO. Now why book the guest if you have no intention of making a good faith effort to listen to what he has to say about a video he has provided and you have agreed to show to the public? Ambush journalism is wrongheaded, especially in studio.

    • 1 vote
    #8.18 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT

    ITM

    Did you just run away , cut and run from an intellectual argument? Sad.

    • 1 vote
    #8.19 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 2:22 PM EDT

    Paul:

    Dude I think you are one of those conspiracy hacks. I have no intention of holding any type of conversation whether intellectual or hostile with you.

    I have seen some of your posts and they are off of the radar.

      #8.20 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:34 PM EDT

      And there you have it folks. Clear evidence of the brainwash. The person can't even bring themselves to investigate information which doesn't comport with what they have been force-fed by the MSM. None of my posts are "off the radar", I asked you very clearly to list my deviations from fact and provide proof. Instead all you can do is call the messenger names rather than listen and investigate his message. I will say it again, SAD, REALLY SAD . Man up and watch the youtube of Steven Jones and Tucker Carlson and get back to me when you have grown an itellectual spine.

      • 1 vote
      #8.21 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT

      And there you have it folks. Clear evidence of the brainwash. The person can't even bring themselves to investigate information which doesn't comport with what they have been force-fed by the MSM. None of my posts are "off the radar", I asked you very clearly to list my deviations from fact and provide proof. Instead all you can do is call the messenger names rather than listen and investigate his message. I will say it again, SAD, REALLY SAD . Man up and watch the youtube of Steven Jones and Tucker Carlson and get back to me when you have grown an itellectual spine.

      • 1 vote
      #8.22 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 5:08 PM EDT
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      Feisty

      The president is doing more than any president in the less than 2 years. Rachel pointed out that President Obama's record of accomplishments, after just 17 month in office, is as impressive as anything we've seen in generations since prohibition.

      Here is the clip.

      http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_06/024482.php

      The clip is worth watching in its entirety, but Rachel's recitation of some of Obama's greatest hits revealed a pretty impressive list.

      Don't expect the media to tout it because it is drowned out by the toxic talkers from the right. Mainly that Mr. Magoo looking Mitch McConnell who called the Senators into his office and told them to just say "NO" or slow it down. Remember Snow asking what's the rush on healthcare?

      The President has made the right move to by pass the obstrustion.

      Pat, Boston, MA

      Yesterday I posted a link from think Progress that said 58 % of Americans agree with President Obama's stated timeline of July 2011. $4 billion in civilian aid in doubt is self-defeating because it's nearly imposible to defeat them. Afghanistan is not structured to function as a democracy as long as Karzai stays corrupt as I see it.

      What do you think about Cinco de Mayo which was established to celebrete a joint American/Mexican military victory; yet an Arizona veterans group wants to ban it?

      I have a doctor's appointment today. I'll talk to you tommorow. Have a nice day.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#9 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT

      Oh... I agree Bev - just trying to point out more GEENOPEE double standards!

      That's one of the things that drive them nuts... THIS President is actually doing something and the free ride for the last eight years came to a screeching halt! lol

      • 3 votes
      #9.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:34 AM EDT

      But Beverly were still waiting for him to keep his promises.

      "Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children…that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal…"

      • 1 vote
      #9.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT

      Alan NJ

      Do you really expect the Repubs to work w/ him? They have taken grandstanding to all new heights. McConnell has decided and w/ the Repubs, the pretty much walk in lock step behind the leader of the Party to Just Say No. Not give any real suggestions in how to actually do something Bi-Partisan, its been our way or the highway. And even when some of their suggestions are used, its still NO. If you have any suggestions in how they can work w/ the President, I'm the Dems would be willing to hear you out

      • 1 vote
      #9.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT

      I think the democrats are having enough problems with Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln and Joe Lieberman. However, it seems to me that George W Bush knew how to peel off enough democrats to pass his legislation. The indictment against the Obama administration is that they cannot get their own party to agree, and that they cannot convince any of the Republicans like the senators from Maine or Scott Brown to vote with them. Could it be that there are no consequences for voting against the administration?

      BTW I did not agree with the Bush tax cuts etc I am just making the observation that his administration could push through controversial legislation with a smaller majority.

      • 1 vote
      #9.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT
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      Just more of the same devious sh*t from this bastard that some refer to as their president. FU Obama!

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      Reply#10 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:24 AM EDT

      More from 'this' bastard and yet so much LESS than the previous bastard,...perspective, Michael, perspective.

      And keep keeping it real, Michael. You are indeed the gift that keeps on giving to Democrats.

      • 6 votes
      #10.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT

      Steelman, if your not in anger management therapy you ought to be.

      • 4 votes
      #10.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT

      Steelman... you got my vote but it doesn't involve a 'check'!

      • 4 votes
      #10.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:35 AM EDT

      That's right, bone-head- MY president. YOURS was a dunce with a capital 'D'. (or was that a criminal, with a capital 'C'??) "Steel" man, my ass.

      • 4 votes
      #10.4 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT

      Just more of the same devious sh*t from this bastard that some refer to as their president. FU Obama!

      Such an intellect. FIRST READ - there has to be a time when posts like this are not allowed.

      • 2 votes
      #10.5 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT

      Elise:

      It is called Free Speech. Bush was called much worst and you guys still take hacks at him in 2010.

      Everyone in America do not love Obama as everyone do not love Bush.

      If you don't want to hear BS thrown at Obama then I think political boards is not a place for you.

      • 2 votes
      #10.6 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT
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      No wonder the approval ratings for Congress are so low--they put the "fun" in dysfunctional. They have allowed themselves to be hamstrung by their own rules--threats of filibusters, members putting arbitrary "holds" on nominees--they have no one to blame but themselves. They wouldn't last a day in the private sector.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#11 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT

      Perhaps there is no need to make all of these appointments. Perhaps there was no need to have made so many appointments under past Presidents. The bureaucracy is self-sustaining and any programs these appointees are supposed to be heading, or directing, must be operating independent of these positions if these programs have been functioning for more than a year now without them. The question should be asked (under any administration) if such appointments are not made would their particular programs really suffer?

      I once saw a program where the government was paying this person $85,000 a year working in a small lab located in one of the federal agencies in Washington. Do you know what his job consisted of? Testing various brands of ketchup to determine which one actually flowed from the bottle slower than the others. That was it, he did nothing else. Naturally he had a lot of free time. I never got the point of why he was doing what he was doing other than to assume that if he determined that one ketchup brand flowed a little too quickly for him then he would foward a letter to the maker of said brand and to warn them to stop watering down their ketchup product. Or he would forward the maker a letter telling them to stop claiming in their advertisements that they produce the slowest ketchup in the country.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#12 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:34 AM EDT

      I'm DISGUSTED that the Repub talking points --aka LIES -- about healthcare are still being cast out there for the low information voters to swallow whole. We didn't end up getting what we really need -- single-payer or public option -- and yet the Rebs are still not satisfied. Obstruction,, for obstruction's sake is NOT a positive contribution to America. Come up with your own ideas for a change, and not those tired old retreads that have never worked for anyone except the top 1%.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#13 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:39 AM EDT

      "I'm DISGUSTED that the Repub talking points --aka LIES -- about healthcare are still being cast out there for the low information voters to swallow whole."

      Health law risks turning away sick

      By Julian Pecquet - 07/01/10 07:13 PM ET

      The Obama administration has not ruled out turning sick people away from an insurance program created by the new healthcare law to provide coverage for the uninsured.

      Administration officials insist they can make changes to the program to ensure it lasts until 2014, and that it may not have to turn away sick people. Officials said the administration could also consider reducing benefits under the program, or redistributing funds between state pools. But they acknowledged turning some people away was also a possibility.

      http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/106887-health-law-risks-turning-away-sick

      Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding
      CHICAGO – Emergency rooms, the only choice for patients who can't find care elsewhere, may grow even more crowded with longer wait times under the nation's new health law.

      That might come as a surprise to those who thought getting 32 million more people covered by health insurance would ease ER crowding. It would seem these patients would be able to get routine health care by visiting a doctor's office, as most of the insured do.

      But it's not that simple. Consider:

      There's already a shortage of front-line family physicians in some places and experts think that will get worse.

      _People without insurance aren't the ones filling up the nation's emergency rooms. Far from it. The uninsured are no more likely to use ERs than people with private insurance, perhaps because they're wary of huge bills.

      _The biggest users of emergency rooms by far are Medicaid recipients. And the new health insurance law will increase their ranks by about 16 million. Medicaid is the state and federal program for low-income families and the disabled. And many family doctors limit the number of Medicaid patients they take because of low government reimbursements."

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100702/ap_on_bi_ge/us_med_er_crowding_8

      I hope that these aren't some of those LIES aimed at the "low information voter"

      We didn't get single payer, we got screwed...but it isn't just republicans doing the screwing.

      • 3 votes
      #13.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT

      Dangerfield, If you come to California you'll hear lies from the Republican candidate for Governor. Meg Whitman is putting out commercials that are nearly 100% lies. If one does a check on fact check they soon discover just how full of lies she is.

      Brown hasn't responded, yet. He is waiting for her to spend millions more of her own money and then when people are really paying attention debunk her lies and do so for a lot less money. I am not all that fond of Jerry Brown but compared to Meg Whitman he is an angel. She's just a typical lying Republican.

      • 1 vote
      #13.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT

      Dangerfield - You always seem to bring something interesting to the table to contemplate. I guess the devil is in the details on HCR. I thought I read before you were an independent. You seem a bit more jaded even than me coming from the left side of the spectrum. From your past posts you don't like enteries without adding to the discussion but here is a shout out.

      Good post.

      • 1 vote
      #13.3 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
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      Administration of cowards

      • 4 votes
      Reply#14 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT

      Dave,Tn

      Seriously? Cowards? When the last administration used recess appointments it was so "tricky" and "intelligent". If the Repub bums had any guts they'd stand up and fight for what they wanted instead of just saying NO to everything . Bring your A game and fight for what you believe in! Oh, that's right. You guys don't believe in anything except oil, big business and tax cuts for the rich off the backs of "the little people".

      • 1 vote
      #14.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT

      Mary O-001286608

      Give DaveTN a break, some people are always going to be upset when the opposition uses his party of choice's tactics. Obama will never get a fair shake and TeaBaggers like Dave never plan on giving him one.

      • 1 vote
      #14.2 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 6:30 PM EDT
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      It is not hard to understand why Obama would do that. The gross dishonesty of the Republican Party, aimed at manipulating and controlling public opinion while they stubbornly pursue their political ambitions, is disgusting and all that Bush-Cheney arrogantly did, with the full support of the Republican Party, was really criminal. Some simply choose to wear blinders and to accept the subterfuge that allows them to believe whatever they emotionally want to and then theirs’ is an irresponsibility that literally supports the total irresponsibility that has cost us so much. Hopefully they are just a minority so that everyone won’t have to suffer a return to ‘more of the same’ that got us all of the problems we have today.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#15 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT

      Joe In Albany,

      When a group uses a Filibuster simply to stall anything, that is calle obstructionism, doesn't matter which sides does it it wrong and you know its wrong. Saying NO, just to say No w/o any ideas of how to fix things is Wrong. Whether the Dems did it for 6 years when the Repubs had both the House, Senate, and the White House, its wrong. And w/ the Repubs giving signals their on board, yet finding ways to stop everything isn't progress. The Healthcare Reform bill is a joke because it doesn't make the companies compete. Removing the Anti Trust exemption would have been a start. The Bank Bill is also a joke because it doesn't go far enough to reign in the large banks or regulate Hedge Funds or make swaps transparent. You can complain about the Dems doing this and doing that, put please take a good look at what the other side is doing beside getting talking points from Fox.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#16 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 6:07 PM EDT

      Philip

      I agree with your sentiments. Please look up the facts. The media tells you that the minority is using the filibuster. This is NOT THE TRUTH. Why do they refuse to tell you what is actually being used?

      Why does it matter? because the media should not be in the business of deliberately misleading you into believing that someone is "doing the work" when they are not. Rule 22 of the Senate allows the disruption of majority rule for indefinite periods which can last an entire legislative session, a filibuster has no chance of lasting more than a week. We are all being punked by the Senate and the people like Mark Murray, Chuck Todd, et al., who report upon their activities while leaving out the truth.

        #16.1 - Wed Jul 7, 2010 6:32 PM EDT

        Paul-977599

        I stand corrected, Rule 22 and not the Filibuster is being used which in itself is even more insidious. The fact that they just sit there, raise their hand and stop everything in its tracks is intolerable. I mean this this for BOTH sides of the aisle. The Senate has become nothing more than a log jam of BS because these hacks actually know that nothing happens w/o their approval. The House is where problems get solved, but the Senate has to put their filth on the bills and then it go back so all the differences can be ironed out. The Senate needs to be abolished period. Both sides and their grandstanding need to just stop.

        • 1 vote
        #16.2 - Thu Jul 8, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
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        Good to see those obama supporters displaying their complete ignorance and lack of facts. The Republicans NEVER claimed they would block the hearings for Berwick and in fact were openly for them so as to get his radical and controversial views out in the open. According to Newsweek, the dems intentionally stalled with the intention of bypassing a hearing and using a recess appointment to avoid hearings.

        http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/07/07/don-berwick-appointed-to-drive-health-care-changes-sidestepping-congress.html

        <i>However, no confirmation hearings had yet been scheduled. In recent days, Republicans have blamed the Democratic majority for failing to bring the nomination forward. Meanwhile, Democrats were worried that Republicans would use Berwick’s hearings—and in particular, the professor's previously expressed views on health-care rationing—to relitigate the merits of the historic but contentious health-care legislation passed earlier this year.</i>

        The plain facts are that Obama lied (again) and all his little sheeple who are blindly repeating his claims are simply proving just how ignorant and uninformed they really are.

          Reply#17 - Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:16 PM EDT

          Considering that the Repubs have repeatedly lied about and distorted what Berwick actually said, it is no wonder that they sidestepped the chance for the Repubs to spout their lies and venom yet again. The whole death panel and rationing lies that the Repubs spout is totally ludicrous and has been debunked, yet the lesser educated populace whipped up by Rush/Beck/Palin etc. are clueless and yet believe these bald faced liars.

          President Obama did the right thing in not allowing them the chance to spew their debunked lies and bitter, minority party venom once again. He filled a vital position with someone who is imminently qualified...much better than old FEMA's Brownie, who did 'One Heck of a Job' on New Orleans!

            #17.1 - Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
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            If you don't like recess appointments, don't go to recess. Stay at work and get something done, for a change.

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