Conservative Democratic Rep. Bobby Bright, who's facing a tough race for his congressional seat in Alabama, undoubtedly wants to put a little distance between himself and the national Democratic Party. After all, President Obama won just 37% in the district in 2008.
But is this a little too much distance?
The Montgomery Advertiser reports:
Bright, who is in his first year in Congress and facing a battle against Montgomery City Councilwoman Martha Roby this fall, joked that Pelosi might lose her own election, decide not to run for the speaker’s job or otherwise not be available.
He suggested, jokingly he insisted to his audience, that Pelosi could fall ill and die in coming months. That remark drew laughter from the crowd.
Greg Sargent called the paper's reporter, Cosby Woodruff, to get more on the context of Bright's remarks. "He had been asked a question from the audience about his support for Pelosi," Woodruff told Sargent. "He said, `Let's wait until that comes up. He listed a long list of reasons why Pelosi might not run for Speaker of the House."
"The last one was, `heck, she might even get sick and die.'"


Not very bright, is he? find another party if you cant find the courage to be a Democrat
Exactly!
Just go ahead and switch parties. It's not worth having people like him calling themselves Democrats. Even if it means losing the House.
Okay, time out, both of you.
Are you suggesting that this is not true...that Nancy Pelosi is immune from all diseases and immortal and, therefore, incapable of dying?
He is distancing himself from teh Speaker of the House, who happens to be a member of his political party by suggesting she may get sick and die. and people laughed. yes, she may well die. There are things not said, though.
as much as I don't care for the rantings of Boener, McConnell, Beck, Limbaugh and the rest, I'm not going to suggest that we can be rid of them by them getting sick and dieing.
If he dislikes his party's leadership so much that he is willing to go to that extreme - jokingly or not - he should proclaim himself a Repub and be done with it. At least then we would know what to expect from him.
Da Noid..... are you seriously asking me to clarify my post? I have no time for politcians who supposedly support their party yet do not respect its members including the leadership.
We need people who have the courage of their convictions in both parties and the sooner these clowns say what they mean and mean what they say the better off the country will be.
I agree with you Rick. Bobby Bright has a right to his opinion, however, if he truly feels the need to bring Death into the discussion then he needs to align himself with the GOP--it's called Truth in Advertising--who is he..really? What does he stand for...really?
If he needs to distance himself from the Democratic majority then he needs to switch parties or call himself an Independent so that voters can make an informed decision.
I worked with a guy who's last name was Bright we had a nickname for him "notso", we could use it here also!!
"Are you suggesting that this is not true...that Nancy Pelosi is immune from all diseases and immortal and, therefore, incapable of dying?"
She looks like she's already dead to me. Just very well preserved with all that embalming fluid being pumped through her veins.
Joe in Albany
Funny stuff, but the same can be said for Mitch McConnell. And did you ever notice how orange Boehner has gotten? Must be from all his golfing.
So, even if you disagree with a particular policy your party is attempting to advance, vote with the party because it's expected? How insane is that? Perhaps the party system IS the probelm. Instead of voting for the right person for the job you vote a party line and agree with everything no matter what. Talk about a bunch of dam sheep. I think it's time to stop the 'We Democrats', or 'We Republicans', and go back to WE THE PEOPLE...
On the issue of what the guy actually said, what's the big issue? In my circle, similar things are said frequently about anyone, even ourselves, though we usually go for being hit by a car or meteorite and dieing. It's something of mocking people's insistence on planning reinforcing the uncertainty of the future.
On the Dems telling him to leave the party if he doesn't like where it's going, would you expand that to the country? Should people who are a member of any group and don't like where it's going automatically leave it instead of trying to change it? If we worked that way, no group would ever change, and all the liberals should have left while Bush was in charge.
Thankfully, that's not generally the way America (or most places, for that matter) works.
How did he disrespect Nancy Pelosi? By suggesting that she could get sick and die? Please.
There's a big difference between suggesting that she could die and saying she should die...or worse, advocating killing her. Tea Baggers need to pay attention to the last part of what I just said especially after someone advocated lynching Senator Murray of Washington at a town hall earlier this year.
Bad Tea Bagger! Bad! It was supposed to be a Botox joke, you fool!
Pogo said it all:
We have met the enemy and he is us.
PS - Let's see how good you look when you're 70...assuming you live that long...I mean, you never know, you might get your wish and Health Care Reform is repealed and some HMO bean-counter might decide to rip away your coverage and then what are you going to do?
Look at all the Dems whining that he needs to change parties simply because he acknowledges how aweful another Dem is. So what you are all saying is that every Dem needs to support every other Dem no matter what they have done? ... that sure would explain the spineless cowardice of the Dem congressmen as they continually agree with Obama's actions that 60 to 70% of their constituents disagree with. Do you need him to change parties because when you go straight down the ticket and vote for every Dem you don't want to accidently vote for someone who isn't as party-owned as yourself? Try voting for the best candidate for a change instead of worrying about wether or not they fit into your party label. It is pathetic that you need him to not be a Dem so that you can fulfill your goal of simply checking the box next to every Dem candidate. Guess what if you know you don't like him vote for someone else, how difficult is that? Are you afraid of having to put thought into it? You act like a bunch of confused sheep not knowing who to follow.
I've been in the same HMO for 27 years. Been in the hospital 3 times for moderate intensity surgery. Never had a problem with coverage or ever had to pay anything more than my copays. I expect to join their Medicare Advantage plan when I turn 65. Despite the MSM horror stories, there are some good HMO's out there.
They do NOT cover Botox for wrinkly faces or embalming fluids for preserving dead bodies, so Nancy would not want to join.
Courage to be a Democrat, now that is funny. All you have to do is put your hand out and want everything for nothing. Pelosi is two faced. She was filmed, short memories I guess, telling illegals that she supported them and now wants more border guards.
Democrats are a dime a dozen just look where most of the votes come from, people with there hands out and that do not want to work.
Hey G-Ma, point us to a centrist party with some clout and I'm sure he and everyone else disillusioned by the bombastic bull@!$%# will get right on that.
Jeez, people! I guess next time I say "if my mother calls me again, I'm gonna just gonna scream my lungs out", I should be locked up for noise pollution?!
Funny how many clueless people there are on this board thinking Democrats think one way and Republicans another. No way in hades each is a group with monolithic views (too big a word for you). Within each party there is a lot of disagreement. In fact, I can point to Democrats who are more conservative than some Republicans and vise versa. You blind partisan hacks are what is wrong with politics today. You have no knowledge of the process and are incapable of thinking on your own.
I guess Nancy P. can get an investigation going, similar to the one she wants for finding out who is funding the people that areagainst the mosque at ground zero (you know, the victims families, the fireman, the police, 70% of the American people), and then she can find out who is wishing her ill will. Seems it's her fellow Democrats! Go figure!
Gee chris, you mean the enlightened people, like Henry-2183342 who knows that all Democrats have their hands out, and none of them want to work?
Could this be the audience your addressing?
On another board, another enlightened Republican stated that "No Democrat has ever started a business." Absurd, or what?
No study has been done as to the long-term effects of quadruple dosing of Botox. It is a poison, you know?
You know he was correct, Polesi could at any moment get sick, leading to the eternal transfer. No one is immune to illness. Don't blame the poor man for stating the truth it a wish many have made.
Have you ever looked at the last 4 letters of Democrats isn't amazing that it exactly describes the personality of most people (rats) within that specific party. Always turning to the extreme left where a normal thought would die of loneliness.
"I have no time for politcians who supposedly support their party yet do not respect its members including the leadership.
We need people who have the courage of their convictions in both parties and the sooner these clowns say what they mean and mean what they say the better off the country will be."
That is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement. You should support people based on their VIEWS not their PARTY. Nor should you simply disregard someone in either party because they disagree/dont like someone else in their party.
Honestly, so your saying that you simply go to the vote box and hit 'D' across the board? You dont care about what they are promoting or policies just so long as they are Democrats? Blind obedience to a Party, either party, is about as ignorant as it gets. You should be ashamed of statments like that GB Mama. It makes one look ignorant with those kind of blanket statements. It makes you look like an uninformed, uncaring, partizan voter.
On a side note - it seems there are plenty of lemmings to their party here on the boards as well. When people stop caring about the policies and the people and care more for the party - we end up in the situation we are currently in - seriously. Lemmings. To ignorant to think, just follow what the party tells you... It be funny if it werent so sad.
Hey, we don't want him. It wasn't an appropriate comment but why do you think Dems are great. Let's look at Obama. Hmmm. Hopefully in November things will change, and the future will look better for America.
Ignorant is thinking republicans are on the side of the middle class.
I think Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are democrats.
Scaring White People
By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, August 26, 2010
Why are Howard Dean and Senator Harry Reid trying to scare white people? ...Why are these guys trying to frighten Caucasians, and what can we do to stop them?
With polls showing about 70% of Americans believe building an Islamic cultural center containing a mosque just two blocks away from Ground Zero is inappropriate, the far left is once again on the run. Failing with the bogus "freedom of religion" argument, the crew that is offended by the manger scene at Christmas is now saying the mosque controversy is another attempt to "scare white people." Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson has put forth that loopy argument on his second home, MSNBC.
You may remember that the radical left designated the Shirley Sherrod story, the ACORN scandal, the New Black Panther/voting booth/Justice Department situation, and the resignation of White House "green jobs" czar Van Jones as previous attempts to scare white Americans. I don't know about you, but I'm white, and those stories did not frighten me. I hope I'm not out of the "white loop."
But here's a key question. Why are Howard Dean and Senator Harry Reid trying to scare white people? Those committed liberals both believe the mosque should be built somewhere else. Why are these guys trying to frighten Caucasians, and what can we do to stop them? It is simply unfair to have the Senate majority leader and the former Governor of Vermont running around trying to instill fear into white guys and gals. This must stop.
What is somewhat scary is that the far-left media continues to peddle this stuff, even in the face of economic disaster. CNN and MSNBC are in deep ratings trouble. Newsweek magazine recently sold for one dollar, and Time is having a tough go of it as well. Air America is bankrupt. The New York Times and the Washington Post are not nearly as successful or influential as they used to be. Not all of those concerns are far-left, but they do have an ideological kinship with the loons; it's just a matter of degree.
Meantime, the anti-liberal Fox News Channel and the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial page is conservative, are both doing very well.
It is because of situations like the Ground Zero mosque that the far left has lost credibility as well as viability. Americans are not stupid, no matter what color they may be. They understand that New York City has more than one hundred mosques and one more located near the site where thousands of innocent people where murdered by fanatical Muslims is certainly not necessary., especially because the building would offend thousands of people who lost loved ones on 9/11. Why would anyone want to offend them? Paging President Obama.
In the end, I believe the Muslim center will not be built. Some kind of compromise will most likely be reached. If not, I can't imagine any New York City construction firm lifting a hammer to build this project. So I predict it will not happen.
I know that may be scary to far-left people, and I apologize if my prognostication upsets you in any way. I never want to frighten anybody. I'll leave that to Congress.
Actually he is obviously a true DemocRAT.
I have never heard such Bigatry or hatered as i have heard for DemocRATS.
Exhausted;
Look who is calling the kettle black. Go read some of the other threads on this board it is full of bigotry, racial and just totally uncivil behavior from the people on the right. Both sides are guilty so own up to your part in this never ending story.
It's my experience that at least 75% of both sides on internet boards are rude and bigoted. It's amazing how civility breaks down once you are assured that the person you are insulting has no ability to beat the crap out of you.
When the other side starts devouring their own. Just get out of the way. This is an internal Democratic fight. Maybe just wishful thinking on the Congressman's part. I wish Nancy a safe and happy retirement in the Bay area.
If you libtards want Bright to switch parties because hes a blue dog, so be it. But if you start pushing people out of the democrat party just for saying something stupid, there wouldn't be too many of you left, and I dont mean just the elected libtards, theres plenty of you card carrying leftys on this board that could fall on your sword over that offense. Now please dont take that to mean I said you should all off yourself with your sword, cuz Im not saying that. Its an idiom. And no, I'm not calling any of you an idiom like its a bad word, its a real word, just look it up if you need help with it, because I cant speak any slower to those of you who don't understand.
Besides isn't Bright just pandering to the folks who can elect him? You all know the most electable Dems this fall are the ones who can distance themselves from the party bosses. I mean, he a dem - doesn't he get a pass for storytelling if it helps him get elected? You know the party mantra, the ends justify the means.
"Why are Howard Dean and Senator Harry Reid trying to scare white people? Those committed liberals both believe the mosque should be built somewhere else"
Slightly off-topic, but that is a lie that needs to be countered with the facts whenever it pops up. Yes, Harry said it should be moved. No, Howard Dean said nothing of the kind. He said that the idiots that are screaming about "sensitivity" and drumming up fear and hatred should butt out, and the normal people who have been offended, mostly in ignorance, ought to sit down with the developers and supporters of the project and communicate. He did NOT say the project should be moved. Only that people of good faith should listen to each other, and people of bad faith (such as Gingrich) should not be at the table at all.
I wouldn't brag about being a democrat. I was one at one time and learned my lesson. You need to fix your s(*^%^$#*t.
Sorry but Queen Nancy cannot die or get sick she has enough plastic she is non-biodegradable already.
Bobby Bright is a jerk...... without a ball
Pretty low and just pathetic when these dummycrats resort to this kind of tactics.
He needs to go, and NOW!
It doesn't take any courage to be a Democrat. All you need is the desire to tax and spend other people's money.
Rick, you've officially confirmed my suspicions...Democrats have no sense of humor whatever.
I freely admit that I dislike the direction that the Congress in general and Obama are leading this country. I can't hardly wait to see them all out of office. However I would NEVER wish death upon any of them. Death of their political careers YES. Death of them personally OH HELL NO!
This idiot does not deserve to be in public service and needs to be retired, not killed, just voted out of office and his political career destroyed.
Don't go getting me all excited......
And they say Repubs are divided. Seems to this poor Independent that Dems are just as divided. Biznine, I read that piece in Townhall. O'Reilly can be very perceptive.
As for this bozo, ain't politics wonderful? He'll reach out to shake your hand, while the other hand is stabbing you in the back.
Botox is poison (botulism) which explains Pelosi's propensity for dumb comments. (We'll know whats in the bill AFTER we pass it).
If there was ever a toilet that needs flushing, it's Congress.
Henry,
If it's not courage than what is it that allows people to swallow any and all kinds of self pride and worth to become a full fledged member of the recipient class? Me personally, I'd be too embarrassed to put my hand out.
Santa Clause would distance himself from Nancy Pelosi. She is toxic and not the way Brittny Spears means.
rick in savannah
Just go ahead and switch parties. It's not worth having people like him calling themselves Democrats. Even if it means losing the House.
You are so right Rick,
Blue Dog Dem Bobby Bright of Alabama is exactly the reason progressives ion the hard left wants to purge the Party of them.
They ran on President Obama's coattail and have not served loyalty to the socioeconomic welfare of this country.
Seems like Bobby Bright has watching a little too much Glenda Beck or attending too many of the Tea Bagger circuses down there.
Glenn Beck staged a scene in which he gave a glass of wine to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and then said, "I put poison in your -- no, I -- I look forward to all the policy discussions that we're supposed to have."
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908070020
Eleanor Giusti, the mother of Gregory Giusti -- who was arrested after allegedly threatening the life of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for her support of health care reform -- has stated that Fox News was a factor in her son's alleged action.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201004080001
"The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges. But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred."--quote Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Martin.Luther.King.Quote.5023
Yes, Bev-
You're correct. We've heard far too much about Tea Party purges in the Republican Party.
Let the Inquisition begin among Democrats.
After November...surviving Democrats will declare open season on apostates, in any event.
Lol.
So far, I believe it's Michelle Bachman who's been calling for American's to declare open season on some politicians by "becoming armed and dangerous." She's backed up by Sharon Angel's call for Americans to "take second-amendment remedies."
Bachmann's also the only one who's called for an "investigation" of "all the anti-Americans in Congress," which she considers "enemy territory."
If the Inquisition begins, it probably won't start on the left.
In First Thoughts, I commented about Beck's rally and the dollars that are supposed to go for the troops. I failed to mention that as part of the Rally, the organizers also provided the DC home addresses of Congressional democrats just in case they might want to visit. Since when did a Rally for the Troops require home addresses of democrats.
So are we to blame a book's author for John Lennon's death, as you seem to blame Fox for a young man threatening Pelosi? Show me any proof of any show or journalist on Fox advocating violence against any person or group of people. Have you ever wondered why the mainstream leftist media is plummeting in viewership? As well as the many leftist newspaper organizations? And Jody, Iowa, were you one of the people who thought it was okay to release photos and other information on CIA agents to terrorists?
Quoting Media Matters the very far left wing sight is an automatic disqualifier. Media Matters is famous for doctoring and editing clip to make who they dislike look bad. But they were funding and started by George Soros so it figures.
By the way, ask Media Matters why they edited out the first part where Beck says this is what the Left things I will do if invited. No, that what make it seem like satire and destroy their "death plot" scenerio. But this is typical for Media Matter the left wing hatchet site.
Hey Ray, you are so off the reservation, Go back to beckistan, the reichwing droolers are out in force and ready to follow Nostradumbass into the land of "we didn't know thats what they meant", however the 2nd amend is a two edged sword. Say goodnight dopes of nope GOBP.
Pelosi has no qualms about killing American freedoms and rights, she has tried to kill the American dream and replace it with "servitude" and universal entitlement! Lets put it this way, I wouldn't send any flowers!
Legal, keep smoking the crack pipe you reichwing drooler.
Jody, Maybe Cindy Sheehan will want to stop by.
jomama72, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Yes Beverly in Chicago, I hope the hard left works diligently to steamroll the weak from the party and gets down to iron-curtain members only. It will certainly improve the Party. I wholeheartedly agree with you. BTW, is there anything I can do to help? Glad to get the left positioned better with a willing and eager public who wants more progressive socialism. Great job by the way on your elected officials...love the way the country is being handled. You're right on track with lots of hope and change just as promised.
Once again, we are seeing politicians doing whatever they can to keep their job. He is throwing the Speaker of the House under the bus just so he can keep his job. He isn't going to change parties because he wouldn't be nominated by republican voters, therefore, he is saying what he thinks voters want to hear just to get elected. Even though I am a democrat, I hope the good people of Alabama will throw him under the bus because obviously, he isn't someone they can trust to take care of their issues instead of his own.
Something tells me that, all things considered, Madame Speaker doesn't have your delicate sensibilities.
Going into the November midterms, I'm guessing she's hoping to keep each and every seat that she can...even Rep. Bright's.
Roflmao!
Is it your contention that the people of Alabama are best served by electing someone who does exactly as their party leadership tells them? He should do what is best of Alabama, and if Nancy disagrees, why should they care? Nancy is about whats best for Nancy first, and San Francisco second. Alabama isn't even on her list.
Da Noid
Are you suggesting that this is not true...that Nancy Pelosi is immune from all diseases and immortal and, therefore, incapable of dying?
Da Noid
I am saying this is not funny.
I have to disagree, I think it is very funny that people take a statement like that and make such a big deal about it. I mean no one is immune from death and no one really knows when they will die. Most people from Alabama, yes, I live in Alabama think that Pelosi does not want what is best fro Alabama and Bobby Bright has been looking out for the area that he is responsible for. Why is it such a big deal? It isn't like he said, "She will be dead by November." Geez, people, there are so many other things that can be talked about. It was just a statement to get the people to laugh about.
Oh Beverly, why is it that every time you tell a joke about Dick Cheney dying of a heart attack it's hilarious, but when Pelosi is the object of a good "ribber" then it's not funny? Have Democrats no sense of humor at all anymore? Geez, it's just the evil witch of the West on her broomstick being used for a little fun. Are you so against a little fun??? Why do DEMOCRATS have to be so BORING?
And you want to know why were in crisis,,,i don't agree with democrats and republicans at times, but i never wish them bad health or any other disaster,,,,they all have families and respect of many....So this is how you get votes, i wouldn't vote for you just on that matter....Gee what if someone said that of you or your family...I find it hard that money and fame are more important than meeting the needs of the American people...These are our neighbors, friend etc who seem to want to take care of just there own and our expense while many suffer the loss of jobs, health care, shelter, hunger etc.....Yep this is why its important to go to Washington they wont have to fight the crisis that the American people are and they can continue there politics as usual....words to get votes, and bs when they get elected....
Beverly In Chicago
Thank you for your great posts. Blue Dog Dems are a significant problem for the Dems and have been at the center of any adverse problems
Not One Dem should get out to vote for this Dumb A**,
Let's see how he like that
Da Noid is about as sad a case as I have ever seen. How could any American justify a comment of this type coming for either party
First Read, however, you are now expected to report threats from both sides of the isle
This type of Rhetoric is not acceptable, Ever!
The Cabbie in NY was seriously hurt yesterday all the Media, Morning Joe still talking this am and has been for Days, but they won't learn how this type of hate can be serious and hurt others, totally irresponsible and the fact that everyone's rights are protected under the constitution does not cause them to reflect
How many times did people joke about George Bush dying and then it was ok. Wanda, the not so funny commedian, suggested Rush Limbaugh die and obama laughed at it. And what about those wishing Sarah Palin would die. It was all very funny because you disagreed or did not like them, but when the shoe is on the other foot you have issues. Where was all the concern with all the hateful death wishes given to George Bush? I cannot stand pelosi and wish her to go away, but I do not wish her to die, only use the same health care she rammed up our ass. Disagree or dislike a person all you want, but do not wish them to die. This dem's comment was made as a joke while a bunch of you were vicious in your hope George Bush would die.
It is typical of the Democratic mind. It's OK for them to do it to Republicans but not the other way around. And then when someone speaks up against Obama, Biden Pelosi, et al, they want them silenced.
I don't remember anyone asking for the demise of Mr. Bush. In fact, most Democrats wished him prolonged life, knowing full well that his replacement would be Dick Cheney. Have you considered changing your Nom de Plume to Party First? I know a few patriots. I fought along some of them in war. You are not a patriot!
America First -
Dems are running away from their party leadership faster than Jesse Owens! No one wants to be seen or linked with Obama or Pelosi. Why? Because they fell for the BS. Remember Bill Clinton telling all the dems the reason they lost control in the 90's was because they failed to get health care passed and that if they wanted to be re-elected they must pass health care no matter what?
Perhaps someone should tell our not so representative congress that they need to stop listening the the so called leaders of the respective parties and start listening to their bosses - US.
w n sanabria and just my thoughts,'
were you living in a cave from 2000-2008?
June,FL
Beverly In Chicago
Thank you for your great posts. Blue Dog Dems are a significant problem for the Dems and have been at the center of any adverse problems.
Not One Dem should get out to vote for this Dumb A**,
Thank you June,
I really think Democratics are sick of this modern day "Southern Strategy". Even Michael Steele pointed it out. Now, you know when the RNC chairman is that transparent it should be obvious to the other drones!! Steele even flipped on immigration. Remember this is what Steele said..
I'm not sure this is an interpretation most Republicans would agree with. The standard line is that, yes, Nixon did employ a "southern strategy." But most Republicans would strongly contest the idea that Reagan tried to use racial division for electoral gain, an idea advanced by liberals who point out that Reagan opened his 1980 presidential campaign in the town where Civil Rights workers were murdered.
Similarly, many Republicans would reject the claim that Republican candidates like George H.W. Bush engaged in a race-based strategy with the Willie Horton ads, or that Bush the Younger or John McCain engaged in subtle race-based appeals.
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-national-committee/michael-steele-acknowledges-gop-had-southern-strategy-for-decades/
Mix all that in with the fear, and gloom and doom and it's easy to see where they are coming from; June. I guess Steele's back is hurting from carrying all the polluted water.
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The Cabbie in NY was seriously hurt yesterday all the Media, Morning Joe still talking this am and has been for Days, but they won't learn how this type of hate can be serious and hurt others, totally irresponsible and the fact that everyone's rights are protected under the constitution does not cause them to reflect
I'm wondering will the right and Fix News take responsibility for this? I doubt it. It'll all be spin. I can't stand Morning Joke. I'll flip back and forth between C-span and Fox Noise. I watch the Fox echo chamber to catch the lie(s) of the day.
Alleged anti-Muslim attacker works at pro-Park51 group...Oops, he's a liberal.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html
Nice try though.
It seems the man that attacked the cabbie would not be one to watch FOX news or listen to the media you claim are responsible. It seems that he was for the mosque and was upset that the cabbie was not
go figure
Is everyone forgetting the book about killing GW Bush? Or the play "I want to kill the President" that was running on Broadway when the Republicans had their convention in NY? I could name dozens of times that I've heard leftists hope, not joke about, but hope that Limbaugh, Clarence Thomas, or anyone they disagree with would drop dead.
Oh, and if the idea behind the Mosque is to build a bridge between the Moslem world and America, I'd have to call it a massive failure. They have made relations considerably worse.
I find Democratic indignation very hollow. Where were they when a British film maker produced a movie showing how Bush could be assassinated. The movie intimated that Bush would deserve it from his policies.
6.2 deleted, Divashels deathwishing the Speaker of the House. Banned.
Anybody remember a rapper that had a very sick song about Bush? Obama sure did nothing to shut that up and it was sick sick sick.
NOV 2, WE TAKE OUT THE TRASH!
The Democratic strategy this time around seems to be to stay as far away from Obama and his policies as is humanly possible.... and then bash Bush. No mention of legislative success, no feel good stories to tell. Run from the Democratic principals at light speed and pretend you're conservative. Imagine how completely out of touch liberals must feel. To get something liberal passed you have to hide it in the shadows, talk about it behind closed backroom doors, lie about it and then never mention it again. Truly a sad bunch.
Liberals are extremely nervous. So close to the golden ring only to see it effed up by incompetent leadership. Barry has set the movement back decades.
Ignorant comments tend to show the quality of the person spouting them.
So true, Lee. Even if this man made his comment in jest, it should never have been uttered.
Sad part is on this site is that while many are expressing their outrage at his comment, they start with the name-calling and blame game in their very next sentence. To me, that's just as ignorant as his comment. And, it's a very sad commentary not just on politics but also on a population that has gone so low that they think it's acceptable to act like heathens and to intentionally cause hurt to others. Until we shape up and bring some decorum and civility back, there's not much hope for us to advance.
Decorum and civility went out the window some time ago but unfortunately, it's both sides. It will be a long time before some people are willing to accept and forget. Ignorant comments are all some people can come up with when they have no substance and they know who they are.
computerdoc--
I am ashamed to admit that docorum and civility went out the window on Nov 4th, 2008. Now--it seems almost trendy/cool to be a hateful discriminatory racist and call your self an AMERICAN at the same time.
I am amazed that we dont feel the earth moving with all the forefathers of this nation rolling over in their graves, by the likes of what this country has turned into. BTW-our enemies have won--we are just to ignorant and selfish to admit it.
Bethany, I really think it went back farther than that. When the American public started losing support for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the attacks on Bush and Cheney really fired up. For about a year, we were one nation, not attacking each other. Those days are long gone.
computerdoc--
I was never a BUSH supporter and I really really disagreed with the "invasion" of IRAQ, but, never ever never did I wish him or anyone in his administration death or illness. I just wished them out of office. But, really, dont you think the hateful RHETORIC has gotten more intense and more violent as of Nov/08. And it does seem as though the ones holding the racist signs or flags or whatever, are the first ones to proclaim their Americanism and rightousness for the good of the country. I just dont feel the pride I had when I became a citizen!!!
Maybe not you, Bethany, but you have to be kidding that you didn't mention that Bush and Cheney were compared to Hitler pretty much every day. And do you have any statistics to back up your claim that violence has gone up?
Decorum and civility went out the window with the rise of talk radio. When you listen to people talk that way all day long in a bubble where none of the audience ever finds it offensive or insulting, then you are genuinely surprised when someone does find it offensive and insulting and gets pissed about it. At the point when other person gets pissed off and you get pissed off in return because they have 'anger management' issues in your eyes, because everyone knows that Rush and all aren't offensive - they are funny, then any chance of civility or decorum between the two of you has been lost.
Civility and decorum were destroyed by talk radio and the rise of the jackass, obnoxious right there, but the destruction was set in stone by the widespread proliferation in usage of the internet. Suddenly after all these years of just listening to people in a bubble and surrounding themselves with people who thought and talked as they did and only alienating a few people at a time, the right wingers who'd been brought up to think that talking to someone like Rush did was not only funny, but anyone who had a problem with it had 'anger management' issues had a venue to alienate people not just 10's at a time, but potentially thousands at a time.
At this point, because the obnoxious jackass method has proven so wildly successful and has enriched so many, there really is no motivation among the obnoxious jackass leaders to stop, which means that the right wingers will continue to believe, (as a new generation of right wingers grows up - the ones who are about 8-10 years old right now), that escalating the rhetoric and being personally insulting and condescending is the proper way to speak to a 'liberal' and be surprised when the liberal in question reacts negatively to being treated in that manner and basically tells the right winger to screw off for speaking to him like that.
This is not to say there haven't always been divisions between the right and the left, but the rise of talk radio and the proliferation of internet usage brought these divisions into sharp relief and allowed millions of people who were not political theorists or trained communicators or even very diplomatic to have the resources to act as though they are all of these things, even though a single post demonstrates that they are not. Sarah Palin, (even though I do not talk about her very much), is to me the archetypal 21st century politician and reflective of so many of her constituents - ignorant of most pertinent facts regarding issues, but willing to speak out on all of them just the same, insulting and mocking to her opposition because mockery and sarcasm draw laughs and mask the fact that she does not have the knowledge necessary to provide a thoughtful answer, and all-too-willing to engage in personal attacks that are coached in such a way as to be able to evince great shock and bewilderment that her personal attacks draw genuine anger from the targets she directs them at.
Sarah Palin is the perfect candidate for the obnoxious jackass wing of the right because all of them exhibit these same behaviors on a daily basis and, most importantly, see NOTHING wrong with it and do not understand why anyone else would.
And Barack Obama is the perfect candidate for the obnoxious, condescending, arrogant jackass (quite more appropriate for the donkey party I might add) wing of the left, all of whom exhibit the above said qualities on a daily basis and, most importantly, see NOTHING wrong with it and do not understand why anyone else would.
Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the most obnoxious of all?
Michael, your post is a very interesting approach to decrying personal attacks.
No one should be suggesting that the so-called Blue Dog Democrats, or anyone else, should leave the Democratic Party. Ours is a large and tolerant group.
However, I applaud Gingerbread Mama for saying it so succinctly:
We need people who have the courage of their convictions in both parties and the sooner these clowns say what they mean and mean what they say the better off the country will be.
Politicians need to tell the truth, and let the people decide what programs they want implemented. Rep. Bright is entitled to his opinion and convictions. However, if he is not comfortable supporting what the Democratic Party represents, then he should consider moving to another party he is comfortable with.
The last thing the country needs right now is the 2 main parties pretending to be something they are not so as to attract the center/independents. We're seeing the so-called Tea Party candidates actively suppress their beliefs because once independents hear what they really stand for they get very turned off. That should not happen with the 2 main parties. We NEED competing ideologies in this country so there is a clear distinction and people have choices!
Well said, nresq! I was going to post the same thing, but yours is better than anything I was going to say.
I agree with most of your comments except about the Tea Party. They are getting out and saying exactly who they are and that is why nthey are doing well. The anger in America today is exactly what they are preying on, just as the Dems did in 2008. Bush got Obama elected and Obama is doing the same for the TP'ers.
Take some time to learn what they really stand for. People are only afraind of them out of ignorance.
Pelosi makes me puke. A rich b##ch who hasn't a clue. But...this other boob showed his articulate side didn't he. MAN...we have a bunch of idiots running this country!
There are no Democrats from the South. They put on the blue suit and pretend but when it comes time to vote on the side of the people their locked in step with the repugs.
Pogo said it all:
We have met the enemy and he is us.
When will we have elected officials that have the courage to stand up for what is right and not just say anything to get elected? If he doesn't agree with the Speaker, then why doesn't he offer some different solutions? These comments are shameful and they are an example of why our country has the problems it does. I'd vote no if I lived in his district and I hope the pary isn't helping with his campaign.
If anyone wants to observe a rotting courpse just get in your car and take a trip across our country. Our country is dead for most, some people just haven't realized it yet.
w, it is true.....I see this in my hometown, also a new shopping center, probably 90% unleased and has never been leased. I live in an area where housing was booming. I asked where are all these people coming from. It never seemed right to me, but I didn't realize what was going on with the subprime mortgages, and the creative mortgages. Found out several months ago. I don't see it getting any better any time soon.
“He is distancing himself from teh Speaker of the House, who happens to be a member of his political party”
yeah and it is unconstitutional, illegal and immoral not to follow your party in lock step...i mean we can't have politicians thinking for themselves now can we....group think all the way!!!!!
He shouldn't be a Dem anymore because he doesn't like the disaster that is Nancy Pelosi? Are they serious? Is that part of the Dem philosophy? Pelosi is a god and walks on water? Or just that party loyalty trumps the good of the country of the lives of future generations?
With voters like these it becomes perfectly clear why we have a group of congressmen who applaud the president when he criticizes American's along with Mexico's president, and who consistently support policies that the majority of their constituents disapprove of.
"Or just that party loyalty trumps the good of the country of the lives of future generations?" more aptly applies to the GOP!
just for the record, Pelosi regularly and very directly quotes Marx in her speeches and comments. Do we really want her to remain speaker of the house and "change" our government into a communist state? Just because we have a candidate that is in the democratic party, it doesn't dictate that he has to like or even respect others in that party. THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON. THE IDEA THAT WE CAN SPEAK OPENLY, DISAGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND PUSH BACK ON OUR LEADERS. Don't take that voice away or we are surely doomed.
"Pelosi regularly and very directly quotes Marx in her speeches and comments."
Please, probably has a bronze bust of Hitler above her fireplace also. Do you hear the lambs screaming?
"it doesn't dictate that he has to like or even respect others in that party"
But how would party-loyal idots know who to for? Do you expect them to vote based on the issues? that would require thinking, which they don't appear to be capable of.
reply from another white female..... lady you need to stop watching FIX news. I'm sure Rupert Murdoch is in love with your kind of talk. If you don't know who Rupert is I suggest you google him. He is the guy that has become a multi billionare by having his employees telling lies on FIX news... ANd he openly admits he only hires "so called news pundits" that will tell the news the way he wants it told. He is not even American yet he taints our news to his benefit. He did the same thing in England and his native Australia.
You are correct this is a free country & you are free to say what you want even if it is untrue! And to wish someone death, WOW, have we really gone that low? Does this kind of talk benefit anyone. How does that kind of ugly talk help this country... I am sickened by that kind of behavior . I am an independent voter who will have a hard time voting for anyone with the Grand Old Party label. In my opinion the current leaders of the GOP are just a bunch of hate mongers not worthy of their positions.
I can safely say that I have never seen such a string of idiotic and sophmoric comments. So you all think Pelosi is a Marxist Nazi? Do you even know what that means? Or how insanely stupid it sounds? And what in the hell does this question mean: " But how would party-loyal idots know who to for?" Don't the three of you have a tea party you need to get to?
well maybe marx may have said some good things. i am so sick of you people claiming we are headed to socialism. that is nothing more than fearmongering to weak minded people. and many americans are obviously weak minded. we are no more headed to socialism as iraq is headed to democracy. it ain't gonna happen.
Bobby Bright- isn't !
Sounds like a few others who are only Dems when running, but at heart they are turn coats.We seem to have quite a bunch of Dinos acting like Dems.What we need is about three hundred Al Frankins,and Allen Grassions and get rid of the sell outs,Nelson Lincoln,come to mind.
God help us if the Als and Allens replicated and ran this country.
Yes, in direction opposition to the fools who say that God punishes a gay parade with Hurricane Katrina -- if we had 300, or 400, intelligent, compassionate, rational creatures in the House & Senate, God just might be in a better mood to help us. Because we would at least be trying to help ourselves, instead of crouching in a hole screaming about Marx and how stupid it is to want to help other people, since other people are ALL stupid, lazy, hands out.
I wonder what Jesus' criteria was for helping people?
Why is this chump even running as a Democrat? He's just another Republican masquerading as a Democrat.
He should change his name from Bright to Stupid. It fits, after all.
This is one Democrat that doesn't deserve reelection.
None of them do
With friends like these.... I agree completely. I'd rather lose than call this guy a Democrat. He has no tact, class or ethics. There are some jokes that are out of bounds. I'm from a heavily Democratic State whose Dems are as conservative as they come. They can be hard to live with. Republicans in my home State let go of one of their best (Lincoln Chafee) because his brand of politics wasn't far enough to the right. I chalked it up to being their loss. However, the issue here is ignorance. The left tolerates it while the right celebrates it. Sometimes Democrats showcase their ignorance as in this case. At that point in his career it is time to switch to the Party of ignorance. When asked, "is this someone you would like to have a beer with?" one implies that there are no brains involved. I prefer to identify with the Party with brains.
And, unfortunately for you little Judy, you are in the party of "keeping the people ignorant"; hence, the easier it is to gain their votes. As for the "party with brains", I'd suggest it isn't the one that people follow like lemmings, even when it's snake oil they are peddling (see Barack Obama's agenda).
Oh, I have a bottle of champagne on ice for the November celebration! Also have a great bottle of wine aging for 2012 when the Marxist gets swept out of the white house. How sweet will those grapes taste then........
Well, if the Republicans are back in total control in 2012 like they were between 2000-2006, then we are really in for a ride. Our cities are already taking on a "3rd World" look. I know the reason why you right-wingers call people "Hitler" and "Marxists". It is because of white supremacy concepts and beliefs. You think that if the right things are done to move this country FORWARD that some how AAs or Hispanics and other members of "minority" groups would some how benefit. Well, we are Americans too. Why can't the right things be done for us all; why can't we all grow together, prosper together? It is this same fear that has always been in this country. Really sad. That is why other countries such as China and India are beating our a** right now when it comes to innovation, technology, and industry. We are our own worse enemy. Until we finally get over the hate, fear, and indifference and truly become a united country, we are going to continue to slide...........................
Doc,
I'm glad you point out that the Repubs were in control 2000 to 2006. This means that for the last 4 years, the Dems have had control of Congress. I don't recall any big legislation coming out of congress from 06-08 that Bush vetoed.
Regardless of party, we have a bunch of political hacks in Washington who feel their only job is to get re-elected. I find it interesting that a "conservative democrat" can disagree with the party leadership and have it suggested that he should just become a republican. So much for the tolerant party of the democrats. Just another sign that they only want what they want.
Oh yea, we are dazzled by the highly intelligent members of the Democratic party such as the Candidate that the Dems came up with in South Carolina right? Or Pelosi who told the people at a press conference and that "we have to pass the bill to find out whats in it". Yeah those are some inspiring brilliance coming from the party of spend and redistribute
DOCCECE
The reason many of our cities are taking on a third world look is because the current administration wants to embrace all the illegals that have infested our country. The only people that I have heard calling people Hitler are you and your kind when the legal residents of this country say we need to send all the illegals packing. As for China and Pakistan please explain the innovative and magnificent things that they have done or provided to the world. Oh wait maybe you think that making stuff at rock bottom prices with toxic materials on the backs of people being paid just above slave wages is magnificent and innovative. Get a grip and pull your head out. This column wasn't about anything other than Pelosi and Bright. However, you decided to make it about ethnicity and race.
Bright sounds like a moderate to me.
Well, isn't that what you all consider a Republican who says/does something you like?
Joe in Albany: "It's All that make up Stupid" She is only brain dead!
Well said, l.d. /Joe ! If there's anyone who's brain dead, it's Nancy Pelosi!
Ill second that mr bright!
And this is reported as news! Can't the media find some actual news to write about!
I can't say that I like Pelosi but if you look at what she's tried to accomplish no one can say she does not recognize that working families in America have gotten the shaft for too long, unlike her Republican counterparts she realizes concentrating all the wealth in this country at the top to enrich a few at the expense of the many is a recipe for disaster.
Sounds like you should move to RUSSIA!!!!!!!!