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Subscribe to RSSLiberal and conservative blogs gave their thoughts on Saturday's dueling rallies: Glenn Beck's "Restoring America's Honor" at the Lincoln Memorial and Rev. Al Sharpton's celebration of the 47th anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's "I Have a Dream" speech.
One point resonated particularly loudly in the liberal blogosphere: that while Beck told rally attendants that "America today begins to turn back to God," his own religion, Mormonism, is viewed in many Christian communities with skepticism at the least and downright opposition at the most.
Liberal blogger Steve Benen linked to reports from several Christian news outlets and figures that condemn Beck's religion while supporting his political views.
Tea Partiers and related right-wing activists have often been split, just below the surface, between competing factions -- largely secular libertarians who focus on fiscal issues and the scope of government vs. religious-right-style theocrats who are still inclined to fight a culture war. Saturday's gathering seemed to suggest the latter contingent might have the edge.
But then there's the other fissure -- theocrats comfortable with a Mormon's leadership role in their so-called 'movement,' and theocrats who appreciate Beck's madness, but not his LDS membership.
Think Progress joined the liberal blogs pointing out Beck's religion, writing of his turning the supposedly apolitical event into "a stinging political missive against Obama," after Beck, appearing on Fox News the day after the rally, said that Obama's version of Christianity is "a perversion of the gospel of Jesus Christ as most Christians know it."
Ironically, while Beck is casting stones to undermine Obama’s faith, his own faith is one that many Christians view as a 'perversion of the gospel of Jesus Christ.' Beck, a converted Mormon who had been raised in a Catholic home, has been attacked by many evangelicals who say he is not a Christian 'because of his Mormon beliefs.
Meanwhile, conservative bloggers like Red State's Dave Poff commented on what other people had to say about the rally.
It should be lost on NO one how incredibly diverse and divisive the news coverage of events in DC on 8/28 has been; the white guys are talking about God and Country while the black guys are threatening to beat them up over it as they express their intolerance for insufficient levels of freebies and shout out their demands for even more nannyism from the State. And, of course, those who dare disagree with them are racists and bigots.
He also compared the number of times God was invoked at both rallies.
The fact that Sharpton, like King, is a Reverand would lead most of us to expect invocations of God and our greater purpose in pursuing Him in our daily lives and our struggle for equality. King mentioned God four times in his I have a Dream speech, and Beck mentioned God twice in the first 5 minutes of his own 'Restoring Honor' speech at the Lincoln Memorial…a few steps and 47 years away. Sharpton mentioned God not once in his own speech, choosing instead to refer to 'us' and 'them' and 'we' and 'they' on multiple occasions while simultaneously calling for unity.
Hot Air's Allahpundit noticed a similarity between how President Obama handled a question from NBC's Brian Williams on his impression of Beck's rally and Obama's infamous "guns and religion" remark from 2008.
Obama's response to the rally question: "Given all those anxieties — and given the fact that, you know, in none of these situations are you going to be fix things overnight. It’s not surprising that somebody like a Mr. Beck is able to stir up a certain portion of the country."
Isn’t this his infamous bitter/clinger theory of small-town values voters dressed up in slightly more politic language?
Allahpundit also wrote that Obama seemed to have mischaracterized the rally.
He says he didn’t watch the rally so he may be under the impression that it was a three-hour 'the socialists are coming!' Obama bash-fest. Not so; Weigel is closer to the mark in describing it as 'the world’s largest megachurch.' I don’t know what The One was thinking, but dismissing what ended up being a big revival meeting as a byproduct of economic anxiety is not the way to ingratiate oneself with religious voters.
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Why is MSNBC & CNN giving Fox, all this Free advertisment?
Does Fox repay the Effort yall extend to them?
NO!
No kidding, Rick. I don't have cable and don't listen to talk radio or follow anybody's tweets: so how come I always know the latest rant from Palin, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, ad nauseum. Do FOX viewers even know who Rachel Maddow IS?
I know who Rachel Maddow is. That's why I don't watch her.
Maybe if she still looked like her high school yearbook pic, though . . .
Of course, then she would be on Fox.
So your criteria for who you watch on television is based on your definition of physical attractiveness rather than the quality of the mind in question.
Explains much.
Classic Fox target audience.
Richard, i'll raise You 2 viagra's & hedge my bet on GoldLine.com !
Micheal said it best this morning, it's called Dumba$$ery!
Of course i know who Rachael maddox is. She first started at Air America.. which Failed. she is now at Msnbc. which is Failing. Go figure...
Yeah, yeah. Y'all got me totally figured out. Give yourselves a congratulatory pat on each others behinds. Just love how Fox News is the all purpose answer for those who have nothing better.
Rickky: Keep the viagra. Since you have it, you must need it.
I much prefer diversified mutual funds, but GoldLine seems to be right up your Dumba$$ey.
Rachel Maddow is very smart. I just don't like her viewpoints.
Rachel Maddow is, however, no smarter than Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly or Megyn Kelly for that matter. She's also no smarter than Jon Stuart or Dennis Miller.
But I will concede that she is better looking than Glenn Beck , Bill O'Reilly, Jon Stuart and Dennis Miller.
Stewart/Maddow vs Beck/O'reilly. What a tag team match that's be! I'd pay to see it. I know who would kick who's backside, too! Forget Dennis Miller- way to full of himself to compete....
Of course we know who Mr. Maddow and his selective viewpoint is.
Now we're competing for who is the most Godly? The way that you tell is by actions, not words. You can SAY anything, but it's what you DO that shows who you are.
So your criteria for who you watch on television is based on your definition of physical attractiveness rather than the quality of the mind in question.
Explains much.
Ditto
That's why these talking heads are always on the wrong side and choose Republicans against their own families interest in favor of hurting themselves
Only they can give you the reason why
But we can probably guess without much thought
June, I have no doubt that you do a lot of guessing without thought.
Well, I hope everyone's happy.
Glen Beck's face and voice on all the media outlets. Just what the little weasle, "I'm-afraid-of-everything", televangelist wanna be set out to do.
Palin's got nothing on this ex boozer loser.
I'm happy, if only because it bothers just about everyone here.
but she has something on our mabe ex crack smokeing pres. and thats why you are so scared of her.
Judge not, lest you be judged
If only Palin had a brain
Religion cannot always be judged by what comes out of the mouth but rather what comes from the heart. I know people whose faith runs deep, they live their life as best they can according to their beliefs. I know people who go to church nearly every Sunday but the words they speak, their actions the other 6 days tell a different story. Glenn Beck claims to be religious but the words he speaks on TV and radio, tell a different story. I do not know what is in his heart but I do hear what he says and it is not what I think of as christian.
Jody:
You keep referencing all the horrible things Glenn Beck says, but you never give an example.
June:
Always suspected you were a dittohead.
Objection to the policies of the left does not amount to hate speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Two losers, Palin and Beck, they can lie to each other while they lie to America. Then they can take all the money they are making. Folks, it is all about MONEY, they could careless about anyone except themselves. When are people going to get it!!!
They want to take this country back 100 years, they can not stand we have a black President, they do not want all American's to have equal rights. Sad, sad that they can not just live their lives and let everyone else live theirs.
November of 2010 is coming upon us Fast. it is a day that the American people will replace the liberal/demcorats in congress . because of the Failures of President obama.. then come nov. 2012 we will Replace Obama..
But once you've replaced Obama who are all you righties gonna blame all your problems on then? Is this the solution to solving our problems? Get rid of Obama & everything will be fine in America? I think you righties are to focused on getting rid of everyone who doesn't look, think, or act exactly like you instead of finding solid solutions. What answers do you guys have other than your one dimensional "LOWER TAXES!" theme - which is great, but not a fix all.
Everything can be blamed on Obama then. He showed us the way and we learned by example. Since you all are calling us uneducated, you should be tickled pink that we emulate him.
Yeah, go back to the party that started this mess in the first place. That'll do the trick. NOT.
We aren't going to be replacing Obama in 2012. The GOP is becoming a dying breed. They are managing to offend every American who is not white, heterosexual and religious. If you pay attention to the 2010 census results, you will find that America's future is not any of those.
Fascinating programming this afternoon on MSNBC.
First, Cenk Uygur filling in for Dylan Ratigan, and devoting much of his show to criticism of President Obama's efforts to revive the economy. Astonishing...
Then, on to Chris Matthews, who's giving almost as much face time to Glenn Beck as he gets on Fox...and all the while, bashing President Obama and his inner circle for not beating back against the public's increasing uncertainty regarding the President's faith. The icing on the cake was Gene Robinson, of all people, questioning why the President hasn't joined a local congregation since arriving in Washington after leaving Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United. You gotta be kidding me!
Ed Schultz is next at the plate...if Uygur and Matthews are this agitated, heaven knows what Schultz will do.
Beck really rattled some cages on Saturday, didn't he?
"Rachel Maddow is, however, no smarter than Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly or Megyn Kelly for that matter. She's also no smarter than Jon Stuart or Dennis Miller."
Well Richard since we don't don't have access to their IQ scores then you may have a point. That said, how many times have Beck, O'reilly, Megan, Stossel or Rush been to Afghanistan or Iraq and interviewed commanders on the ground? sometimes in harms way. And how many times has Maddow offered to have any one of these individuals or any republican on her show for a dialog? How many have accepted? Anxiously waiting for your "thoughtful" response.
Torpedo:
Rush has been to Afghanistan, met with Karzai, hung out with the troops. He has had many of the military and Republicans on his show. He, however, generally doesn't have guests unless it's the President or Vice-President and it's probably not gonna happen with Obama or Biden.
O'Reilly has also been to Afghanistan and O'Reilly will book any guest. I believe he has interviewed Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Stossel is a Libertarian and I'm not so sure he even favors the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq. He might be a good guest for Rachel sometime.
Megyn Kelly is a legal analyst and also would be a great guest for Rachel Maddow. I could see them having a good discussion.
I don't know who Rachel has invited on to her show, who's come on and who's refused. You could probably enlighten me on that, since you're apparently a fan.
And you may not know it, but in my mind, associating Rachel Maddow with some of the names above is a compliment. You'll notice I didn't mention Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, Keith Olbermann or Dylan Ratigan.
Rachel is the cream of the crop at MSNBC. I like her. She deserves a better network than Air America or MSNBC.
She's still a relative ratings lightweight, though.
Ratings aren't everything. Fox News has the highest ratings, but they aren't worth a damn as journalists.
I wonder how many of their viewers are watching it solely for comic relief?
All the Left rave about how smart Maddow is but I have yet to see it. See edits video to try to prove he point. I never see anyone from the right to offset her views. Even on Fox you can see consistent liberal viewpoint. Bob Beckel has been one of the biggest Democratic strategists in Washington. You see him consistently on Fox. You will occasionally see a RINO on Matthews who will claim he is conservative. The only real conservative you see on CNN is Buchanan who is conservative depending on the issue. Obviously idealism is more important than being balanced on MSNBC. Bottom line is Fox definitely has conservative commentators but most viewers think they get a balanced viewpoint. If you turn on MSNBC, you will not be getting a balanced viewpoint. You will be getting a liberal left viewpoint and that is it. Those who view MSNBC thinking they are getting the whole truth are just deluding themselves.
Fox News does a wonderful job of marketing itself. They have MSNBC and CNN beat in that regard. Their bias and agenda are clear. They need to own up to it.
Glenn Beck has the audacity to question the President's faith, when he (Beck) has shown anti-Christianity behaviors. He constantly projects what is true about himself, on to others, especially the President. He says that the President's Church is not Christian, well is it more mainline then Mormonism. The Church of Christ is a well respected church with many good programs that actually helps people. The Mormon church on the other hand, has a history of polygamy, child wives, racism, anti-Christian, anti-Jesus, therefore anti-Christ, and questionable origins, just to name a few. I don't understand why people are so blind, and are willing to follow this person, who obviously has some character flaws. The President lives his faith, I can't say the same thing about Glenn Beck, I don't know what he lives, however, money seems to live him. The Bible says that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Glenn Beck is an example of that.
I question anybody that follows a rev, that hates america and white people.
Polling shows that the so-called right attend religious services on a regular basis 5 to 6 times more than those identifying themselves as liberal. Yet the left are always ready to lecture us on what constitutes Christian behavior. The Bible tells us to stand unapologetically for the Biblical principles withing. But when we do, we are called unchristian and hateful. The left thinks the Bible should never demand anything of anyone.
I do not remember Beck ever questioning the President's religious preference. If fact, he did what is right and apologized for saying the President is a racist. This is the Christian thing to do. As for the President's christian declaration, only he truly knows. I know that the Bible says you will know that by the fruit born in the person's life. Jesus says you will know whether you love Him by whether you follow His commandments. So you can judge for yourself.
The President does not have to join a particular church while he is living in Washington. If and when he does this, then the complaint will be his attending church is disruptive with all the secret service people, and why do they have to put their children, and themselves through that? They can have their private services at the White House. Attending a Church does not make you a Christian, it how you live out the precepts of the faith. In the Bible it says they will know you are a Christian by the love you have for one another. Well, have much love has Glenn Beck shown for the poor? He wanted to get rid of ACORN because he thought that they helped get Obama elected. So he organized this "rally," to help get Republicans back in power, so he doesn't have to give to the poor. Very Christian I guess. Well, he has 90, 000 others who are luke warm Christians, who agrees with him. I wonder if they were all Mormons ?
Beck wanted to expose ACORN for the corrupt and evil deeds they did. ACORN, like rats, fell apart when exposed to the light of day. Attending Church does not make you a Christian, but the Bible does command a believer to "not foresake the gathering together weekly with like minded believers". It is very clear that those criticizing the Beck rally never viewed much of it. There was nothing political said or eluded to. I suggest those who lecture on Christianity actually pick up the Bible and read it. The Bible is also about God's law and obeying it. To give lip service to some toucy feely service that says something about love and never addresses obedience to God is not true Christianity. Jesus said if you love Him you will keep His commandments. That is the true test of Christianity in God's own words. Just what specifically was mentioned at this rally that you disagree with?
I've been trying to figure out what Beck was trying to accomplish with this rally and I think I've finally got it.
Beck's a Mormon, right? Like Mitt Romney.
I think Romney is the billionaire Koch brothers' preferred presidential nominee for 2012 and they've sent Beck out to persuade the Evangelicals that Mormons are nothing to be afraid of. Beck is such a showman he can talk the language of the religious right whether he believes it or not. By making his followers think he's just like them, he minimizes the Mormon stigma. Once that's overcome, Romney has a shot at the nomination.
By golly Katie I think you've got it.
This was not a Tea Party movement. It was a rally to get people to begin thinking of....Where (direction) our country should be going, not to forget what our Founding Fathers wished for this country, the constitution, and that God had much influence in the creation of the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and so forth. What are you so fearful about? I would be fearing many other things than people gathering on the mall to reflect on what is important to us. There is so much that is wrong with America that needs fixed and we as a united country should be working toward those goals...not bashing everyone that disagrees or contrary to what you think is right. Benjamin Franklin for many years had meetings with the best minds during his life to discuss openly ideas that would better this world and to attempt to lead people in certain directions which would benifit mankind as a whole. Quit critizing.
@Psalm109:5:
I didn't say anything about the Tea Party and I'm not fearful, "bashing," or criticizing you or anything you stand for. I'm merely making an observation. If you would like to comment on my observation, fine; otherwise, you are welcome to post your irrelevant comments elsewhere.
Yes, this is all a giant Mormon conspiracy. The Mormons are trying to take over the US. But Katie you need to watch the Kellogg's commercials on TV. Tony the Tiger is sending the conspiracy secret messages as to the plan and how to execute the Great Plan. Maybe you can decode the message and let the MSNBC "Truth Squad" know so they can foil the evil plans. But please do not trip over you cape while doing so.
Very funny, Ray W., but I think you missed my point. I don't have anything against Mormons; they're free to worship as they please.
It's the Koch brothers that I don't trust. I think they're using Beck to influence the religious right for the purpose of getting their preferred candidate (pro-business Romney) elected. I think most would agree that Romney would be the GOP front runner were it not for his religion. If Beck can make evangelicals more accepting of Mormons, then Romney has a better chance of winning. That's all I'm saying.
Following is an excerpt from an excellent article by Jane Meyer. Read it and make up your own mind about the Kochs and their relationship with Beck and the Americans for Prosperity organization.
"Members of the John Birch Society developed an interest in a school of Austrian economists who promoted free-market ideals. Charles and David Koch were particularly influenced by the work of Friedrich von Hayek, the author of “The Road to Serfdom” (1944) ... In June, the talk-radio host Glenn Beck, who has supported the Tea Party rebellion, promoted “The Road to Serfdom” on his show; the paperback soon became a No. 1 best-seller on Amazon. (Beck appears to be a fan of the Kochs; in the midst of a recent on-air parody of Al Gore, Beck said, without explanation, “I want to thank Charles Koch for this information.” Beck declined to elaborate on the relationship.)"
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all#ixzz0yCywKS5G
Kieth why don't you and Chris have a rally, and if you could draw 10,000 people, i would donate 100,000. to your favorite charity. Let's see what you two perverts got together?
I have a hard time beleiving that people can throw so much hate at people they do not know or have researched to find the facts about them. It's true that Beck is a morman. However, that doesn't mean he doesn't know god.
You people talk about christianity as if you were experts on the subject. The bible says there is only one way to receive salvation and that is from a personal relationship with our savior. I challenge each and everyone of you to show me chapter and verse in the bible where it says you gain salvation by collective acts. I will save you some time and effort. IT ISN"T THERE. That's what your president beleives and what his ex preacher beleive's.
People you better wake up and read the writing on the wall or you will wake up and find your self working on a collective farm. Can't you see that this man is working as hard as he can to dismantle this country. He thinks our founders documents are out dated pieces of paper that do not apply now. He is taking our liberty from us one step at a time in the name of equality. Equality to whom? I work my entire life" 65 yrs " and am still working running a small buisness. Now I am expected to roll over and share what little money I have made with people who have done nothing with their live's except live off the govt or have come into the country illegally and expect the same rights as normal tax paying citizen's. HAH ! HAH ! The joke is on you !!! You are the one's that have been deceived by a corrupt government and were foolish enough to beleive the lies and half truth's put out by the govt's media
Amen to that...........Most of these haters who are blogging here have no idea of the Golden Rule.....Try picking up the good book and reading it. It contains Wisdom.....the greatest gift God has to offer man..there is intelligence and then there is Wisdom.
Yes, when the Republicans do their best to deny Americans health care and unemployment benefits, the first thing I think of is "they're doing it because they love thy neighbor".
Also tertim, if you're a Christian, then you should have more respect for the ninth commandment. So stop lying.
You might also remember the Bible says "I shall show my faith through my deeds". The Republicans sure haven't done this.
No one on the Right wants to deny anyone health care. But you want the rest of America to pay for you. Charity is one person giving to another, not the government confiscating money and redistributing. It always amazed me that the left thinks charity is them gives other people's money to a problem. But every survey or poll shows liberals give very little of their own money to charity. It is not lying to express ones opinion even if it disagrees with the left. When measuring your deeds make sure you are doing them. Taking money from those who have and giving to the poor does not constitute a charitable deed for either you or I. Charity is giving out of our individual wealth.
I am white, a proud American citizen born and raised in this great country and am not of the Mormon faith. I was curious and, therefore, looked it up and the Mormons say that Jesus Christ is literally the Son of God. That right there is the whole point. That is what my faith believes in and it is true. After all, we are all offspring of God since Adam and Eve, but God had only one begotten Son, Jesus, whose mother was the Virgin Mary. Many people believe that and many don't. That is freedom of religion. I can't think of another religion but Islam who believes that anyone who is not of their religion are infidels and should be killed. That seems to me to represent hate, complete lack of love, for anyone who is not of their belief. I had a Muslim tell me one time that they definitely did not believe Jesus was the Son of God, that he was a great prophet of God, but Muhammad was the greatest prophet of God.
This administration appears to hate wealthy people. There are good and bad people among the poor, middle class, and wealthy. This present administration that is in charge appears strongly to bear the truth of that old adage......."absolute power corrupts absolutely." IMO, they aren't hiding it anymore.
I have heard Glenn Beck praise Martin Luther King......never heard him say anything against him. I believe Martin Luther King was a man of peace, although violence followed him because of what he was trying to accomplish for the good of the black race. I hope the blacks appreciate what he did for them. Any comparison, IMO, between Al Sharpton and Martin Luther King is a very weak link. Sharpton couldn't step into the shoes of King. IMO, Sharpton appears to always want to continue to stir up the racial issue.
Barack more or less said that a man like Beck is good at stirring up the people. Well, America definitely needs to come back to God and then, maybe, our country can heal. I really don't know who else but God can heal America. And, Barack needs to stop dividing this country, or should I say "tearing" her down. IMO, it appears that is what he wants to do to America. Barack is definitely a professional "showman." And, while we're at it, point out to me how Barack lives his faith......whatever it may be, because I certainly don't know what's in his heart. Faith is not just words that come out of your mouth. If there is no belief in your heart, the words are useless. At least, Beck has told the terrible truth about how awful he was before he was saved by Christ. And, he was really bad. It's not something he's proud of, but he has the guts to tell the people the truth and the truth is not always pretty. The truth is definitely becoming a novelty these days, especially among our politicians in particular, on both sides.
I'm sure I will receive a lot of criticism against my post but..........personally, my dear, I don't give a darn.
Read the Old Testament sometime. You won't find any shortage of it endorsing violence against non-Jews. Also, ever hear of the Crusades? The Spanish Inquisition?
Obama has shown he wants the sick to have access to health care. Beck wants people without insurance to die in the street. Which sounds more "Christian" to you?
Shannon:
Btw, I have read the Old and the New Testaments. I am very familiar with what you mentioned above and do not condone those acts of violence. I don't condone any acts of violence.
IMO, Barack wants government control of health care (socialism) much more than he wants the sick to have access to it. With control comes power, and he is power hungry. If you have read the Constitution you should know that it states clearly that no one is forced to buy a good or service they do not want. But, Barack stated that ones who do not have health care and do not purchase it will be penalized.
You need to get your facts straight before posting in a careless way. Prove to me that Glenn Beck said he wants people without insurance to die in the street. You can't prove it as he has not said it. That was literally one of the most ignorant statements I have read.
Tell me which is more Christian.......deliberately killing babies by abortion or allowing them to live?
If you actually read the Old Testament in it's entirety, you will know that the "so-called" Jewish violence was done by commandment and blessing of God. You can't in one minute say you are doing the Will of God, then condemn someone who is doing exactly that. That is very faulty logic. The left would like to perceive things which they think God is implying they should do. But then directly ignors things, such as abortion, which God say directly is a sin. The Bible is not a cafeteria in which you can pick one from column A and one from column B then ignor the rest. You must obey the whole counsel of God not just what you like. By the way, the Spanish Inquisition was Catholics persecuting Protestant Christians. But don't blame God for the foolish thing man has done. It is just blame illogical to use something stupid someone did a thousand years ago to justify policy you do today. If Obama wanted to help the poor then do that. But what he is attempting to do is takeover the whole health care industry. This is a power grab over 1/6 of the US economy couched in the thin vail of a charitable endeavor.
ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian
Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2008. It
doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of
Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.
REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30
ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
By Sebastian Vivar Rodriguez
I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a
terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and
replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture,
thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen,
because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science,
art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.
These are the people we burned.
And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to
ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates
to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious
extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness
to work and support their families with pride.
They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities
into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they
plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred,
creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and
superstition.
We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their
talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to
life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed
by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and
theirs.
What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe
NOW OR NEVER
Well spoken
Thank you tertim. Your post was an eye opener to say the least. I have never heard it put quite that way, but it is so true when you seriously think about all that has happened in the past. What a terrible tragedy that the peace of God's chosen people was replaced by the hatred of a huge majority of the Muslim population whose goal, in the name of a very dangerous, radical religion, is to wipe out Christianity in order to take over the world. In my heart, I know that is their agenda, and that is what they are trying to do to America. And, it appears they are gaining momentum for their evil plan. If they conquer America, they will have achieved their victory here on earth.
OK, Taking bets
How long will it be before Beck is caught fondling lil' boys in a bathroom?
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals
Why Bo, did you invite him to become a member of your club?
listen to becks shows and tell me he cares about the American people,,,,,sure its only a few who takes his word as gospel.......I could get as many people fired up if i had my own talk show, and tv show....Its like people who gather around celebrities who feel they are above the law and people love it...Becks no different.
Anybody who thinks Glenn Beck is some kind of christian crusader needs their head examined. He is the most dangerous kind of con man....one who says he comes in the name of God. I'm surprised he even knows who God is. Beck's ego is so enormous I highly doubt there's room for God in his life. He has spewed hatred and fear for 2 years, and please, don't ask me for examples. If you watch him or even listen to the news, you know what I mean.
This "rally" on Saturday was nothing but pure Beck propoganda. Just the fact that Palin was there proves the point. And just a few hours after he went on and on about how everyone should turn back to God, it doesn't matter if you're Republican, Democrat or Indedpendent, blah, blah blah, he gets interviewed and goes back to his old self, with the right wing rhetoric and hate mongering. Who does he think he is to question anyone's faith? How does he know what the President thinks about Jesus Christ?
As I said, he's a con man, thru and thru. And he's laughing at all you people who actually believe what he says. Laughing all the way to the bank.
The acceptance of warped logic is hard to understand. Bush-Cheney clearly proved beyond any doubt that the ‘trickle down’ theory is a fraud aimed to benefit only the few, so what can possibly be gained by again catering to Special Interests and the powerful, influential and very wealthy few? Nothing! … except of course a return to ‘more of the same’ including the placating and patronizing of those strong supporters who provide overt and covert support, substantial contributions and even promises for after office compensation, while the majority again gets only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge.
Speaking of subterfuge, what about the tongue-in-check criticisms which fault ‘Socialism’, government spending and ‘big’ government and fail to acknowledge the problems being addressed, caused by the neglect and irresponsibility of (pseudo) ‘Conservative’ government, and that to return to ‘more of the same’ and/or to do nothing just couldn’t do anything other than make matters worse while again only satisfying the few? And the aggressive faulting of Obama and the Democrats when knowing everything could really use bipartisan fine tuning and still the Republicans just put their political ambitions above all else, at any cost, and stubbornly and arrogantly simply depend on trying to sway and control public opinion while obstructing and criticizing all efforts – who really deserves to be faulted there? And now the Tea Party Movement; how can anyone really not recognize it as just another, like the ‘Swiftboat’ effort, organized and supported manipulation by those aiming to return to ‘more of the same’ anyway and anyhow they can and again to substantially gain while conning and using the people?
There is some very aggressive and substantial efforts going on with both overt and covert support to deceive and manipulate public opinion … but, while the pure power and extent of it is impressive, the logic for the people just isn’t there! Even the ads are just dirty and totally deceptive and should only be seen as obnoxious and insulting. The middle-class, all of the middle-class, lost significant real value, the poor were given neglect and apathy, the resulting problems are drastic and costly and the Republicans simply want to con the people into returning to ‘more of the same’, which just means accepting ‘more of the same’ … there is no logic or any value in that.
The Republican Party has literally become ‘puppets’ for the few, their strong supporters who ‘pull their strings’, and the only way to ever get that turned around, to regain the ‘Grand Ole Party’, is to firmly reject them for what they have become. Like John Dean (a self-declared Goldwater conservative) stated in his book ‘Broken Government’, with their current loyalty and mentality there is just no way the Republicans can responsibly govern. Their bold and arrogant self-serving dishonesty is disgusting and offensive and to accept any of it is completely illogical and totally self-defeating.
I'm laughing all the way to the Mall. Those who cast aspersions of Beck's character like fondling boys and the like seem to have one in their family who went through this. That's why they are thinking this way. Perverts think alike. Anyhow, now that the Beck has stolen the spot light from the Bama seems like his supporters on this site don't like it. Beck is teaching the American people every man, woman and child about the true history and founding of America and there are some people , I won't mention names don't like it. Either like it or lump it. The American people are getting the gist of what the Dems and Progressives represent in past America and present and their eyes are opening.
now or never, I'm damn proud of you. that's the problem with those who follow blindly a leader without knowing who he/she is. We know more about Palin's underwear than we know who the Bama is. He is the Leader and we don't know who he is. He support the wrong causes, the wrong people, wrong things and all Americans are alienated. We never had a leader like this. All he could see is social justice and engineering. He can't see WE THE PEOPLE.