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PHOENIX - Arizona voters won't be seeing any more debates between the top gubernatorial contenders.
Incumbent Republican Jan Brewer said Thursday she has no intention of participating in any more events with Democrat Terry Goddard. She said the only reason she debated him on Wednesday is she had to to qualify for more than $1.7 million in public funds for her campaign.
"I certainly will take my message in a different venue out to the people of Arizona," she said.
This comes after her disastrous debate performance on Wednesday, when Brewer froze during the debate.
And also when she was unable to answer opponent Terry Goodard's charge that she wasn't truthful in stating that there have been beheadings in the Arizona desert.
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No further debates? Duh. Never saw THAT coming....lol
If you can't take the heat, well, you can't be governor.
While I do feel Jan Brewer may've been unnecessarily shat upon by the feds (and I do approve of Arizona's immigration law!), her performance during the debate was abyssmal - and that's being kind.
If she proves to be unqualified to govern, she proves to be unqualified to govern, end of story.
unfortunately... she spews the rightwing hate monger message; so they don't recally care if she's qualified to govern. As long she hates obama and illegals, she's a shoe-in.
Yeah, but honestly? I don't think the disdain she has for the President is unwarranted - Arizona is being anatgonized by the administration for their outright opposition to the ineffectiveness of federal border patrol. As for the other facets of her personality, well. That's certainly fuzzier.
Believe you me, it's not as though my position against illegal immigration is born out of any kind of dull-minded bigotry; if we had a run of Canadians I'd be taking issue with that, as well. At some point, though, we have to say that enough is enough. You can't deny that had the laws on the books been enforced for the last thirty-five years we wouldn't be facing a problem that's disastrously snowballed.
While you libs tingle at Obama's shiny words, he has done nothing but ruin this country. He has the world laughing at our foreign apology policy. He has run up the nation's credit card so we may not be able to pay if off. He has put our troops and the mission in Afghanistan in danger with arbitrary exit dates. He stood by while all the gov't agencies got in the way of stopping the oil disaster in the Gulf while his moratorium on drilling cost us thousands of jobs. He has divided us by race and religion. He has created so much uncertainty, villianized industry, created onerous regulation and has promised higher taxes on business that private enterprise is dead in America. He threatens to distribute our nation's wealth on a foolish environmental policy. He has destroyed our health care system.
Jan Brewer may not be a good debator. But she has balanced the budget, filled in for the Federal Gov't to protect the boarder and most Arizonan's support her. She is a real leader. I wish she was our President!!!
Hobie81 what an ill informed person you are! GW Bush put ran up the deficit with the war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthy that represent 1/3 of the deficit. 300Billion dollars.
Government agencies did not get in the way of the BP Oil spill. BP the private company did that all by themselves. Obama has divided us by race, people like you that want to blame him for everything wrong under the sun have, while trying to pretend it has nothing to do with his color.
And exactly what has the healthcare bill done to your healthcare? What in the last year and 1/2 has the President done that has made you life so unbearable?
The Bush administration ran this country into the ground. And I doubt that you have ever left the country so I don't know from what experience you speak of our image abroad, but Bush had the world laughing and making fun of America. I was in Europe during the Iraq invasion and people did not like what was happening.
@Hobie81: Do us all a favor and try to make posts in the future that don't consist of poorly-phrased, regurgitated talking points.
Yeah! And all you had to do is sell your state capitol.
Unfortunately Hobie81 - you have some facts wrong. 1st - this problem started LONG before Obama came to office. Where were you and Ms. Brewer when President did nothing. Mr. Obama has deported more illegals than ANY president before him. He has put in more money and more resources than ANY president before him. But it just all of sudden an immagration problem. Please tell me what did President Obama do to "divide" us by race and religion? What - get elected? I seem to remember the big divide actualy starting under President Bush. Afghanistan - let's see, started by President Bush (and I'm 100% behind Afghanistan as they allowed the 9-11 terrorist to assembel and plan) Went on for 7 YEARS BEFORE President Obama. Mr. Bush NON FOCUS on Afghanistan allowed the Taliban to regroup and get stronger. Allowed Iran to get stronger, need I go on? President Obama was handed over a trillion dollar deficit by Mr. Bush. The Bush administration started with a surplus and 8 years later, it was trillion dollar deficit. Government grew more than any prior to Mr. Bush. His (and government overall) response to Katrina was horrific. Now, I'll give you the debt is continuing to grow under Obama. Health care was destroyed long before Obama came to office. The insurance industry has raped us all. We are already paying for people who don't have insurance. I have insurance, my wife had a surgery with only 1 night in the hospital, my insurance was charged $25K with $1000 out of my pocket. Real good program, hugh?
According to what I've been able to find out, Arizona's budget is NOT balanced and there are no "headless" torso's in AZ desert. Gov Brewer potrayal of AZ would make anyone NOT want to visit the state. I have yet to hear her say what AZ has to offer people. Talk about Scottsdale and the golf courses, or Sedona, etc. Yes there's a problem, but potraying the State as the capital of kidnappings isn't helping. So, let's stop with the cheap rhetoric, and go help your governor say something positive about AZ instead of always putting it down.
Hobie81 - She has not balanced the Arizona budget, you are wrong! I don't have the energy to defend your baseless opinionated claims about Obama, but about Brewer and the deficit...
http://www.arizonaea.org/news.php?page=395
Arizona's legislature is facing a budget deficit nearing $2 billion for FY09 and $3 billion for FY10. Like most republicans they want to curtail the crisis by slashing state funding for schools and other public services. Due to tax cuts, hmmm that sounds familiar...
http://uanews.org/node/7586
"The combination of (1) under funding the rainy day fund during an upswing period, (2) numerous tax cuts which are likely to permanently downsize the General Fund, (3) a super-majority requirement for all tax increases, (4) the strong cyclicality of revenues, and (5) an increased demand for social services during recessions will result in severe expenditure cuts in some government services in the next economic downturn."
I am not a great public speaker, but really, when a candidate goes blank for sixteen seconds and refuses to answer questions when the facts prove that she is lying she doens't deserve the office.
Refusing any more debates, that is really childish of her.
Exodite Dragon - "You can't deny that had the laws on the books been enforced for the last thirty-five years we wouldn't be facing a problem that's disastrously snowballed."
The actual facts are that there has been a huge drop in illegal immigration between 2007 and 2009. Obama is deporting many more illegals than Bush did. The sudden "immigration crisis" is another manufactured crisis to provide a wedge issue for politicians to scare people with. Google it.
What is it about Party of No and Bagger chicks that constantly quit stuff, when things don't go their way and they are not able to dumb down the conversation enough?
They give capable women a bad name.
Oh and Hobie it is getting worse for the state budget for Fiscal Year 2011 it is $8.5 billion dollars
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Arizona_state_budget
Also the racial profiling bill, and its affect to the state sales economy with the boycotts haven't helped the deficit problem any.
A huge drop in illegal immigration between 2007 and 2009 correlates with a huge recession we fell into. Do you think they might be connected? I guess Bush saw that and figured the only way to stop illegal immigration was to trash the economy.
@Heartlight3: The period between 2007~2009 =/= "the last thirty-five years." The drop you describe (which I am very much aware of) does not change the fact that there are at least 10 million people here illegally who wouldn't be for lack of the enforcement I lamented about in my previous post.
If you'd like to read up on some ideas I had about how to find a path towards citizenship for that number, please peruse my post on the initial page of First Read's article about Joe Arpaio from yesterday.
Exodite... Please read your 1.6 post. Talk about 'poorly-phrased'! LOL
You know that "Kettle Black" thing?
The ability to govern, represent the will of the constituents and the will to stand up and fight for the majority will is what is important. The ability to speak eloquently and debate is nice, but if it were my vote, I would rely more on the former than the later. The people of Arizona will decide.
From the national perspective the whole Arizona issue, not the election, or Jan Brewer, is very troubling.
Assistant U.S.I.C.E. Secretary John Morton's August 20, 2010 memo reportedly stated that being in the U.S. illegally is no longer sufficient reason to deport. You need to be a security threat, or criminal to get the bus ride. A lot of furor and now the typical obfuscations/ it was misunderstood stuff, I don't know, just saying.
I.C.E. has released 481 illegals from countries known to be state sponsors of terrorism, or countries of interest. They are now federal fugitives from terrorist countries that I.C.E. can't find. I don't know, just saying.
The drug cartels recently slaughtered 72 would be illegals in Tamau Tamaulipas, Mexico because they refused to become assassins IN THE US. This was according to the lone survivor who survived being shot in the neck. The drug cartels generate 1/3 of their revenue off human trafficking into the US, making up to $500,000 a load. 25 bad guys were killed in a little skirmish along the border yesterday. Car bombs across the border in Juarez, city hall building in El Paso being sprayed by assault rifle fire, US diplomat families being told to evacuate the consulate in Monterrey, because the drug cartels control in Mexico's second largest city.......... I don't know, just saying.
Bureau of Land Management putting up warning signs about the drug cartel danger as far as a 100 miles from the border? 30 miles from the 5th largest city in America? Arizona requests 30,000 troops and the BLM sends signs? I don't know, just saying.
Yesterday everyone went on and on for 6 pages about Holder and the baloney sandwich sheriff. Last week Holder's DOJ announced that "no charges are pending, or contemplated with respect to Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in the near future. If the name doesn't ring a bell, ole Abd is being held in GITMO and is the alleged murderer of 17 American sailors 10 YEARS AGO as they went to lunch on the USS Cole. And Holder is going after the stubborn ol coot Joe? I don't know, just saying?
Obama reports Arizona to the U.N.? To Cuba and Libya (they sit on the committee) about human rights stuff? Obama refuses to meet with Brewer in Arizona, with Tex Gov Perry anywhere?
Obama doing his job? Jan and Joe are the big story? I don't know, just saying.
Interesting comment. Incorrect, but interesting. I just got back from an overseas vacation a couple weeks ago, and virtually everyone I spoke to about the US had only praise for Obama. In fact all the criticism I heard about the US was soley for what the past president did.
Hobie-
The facts stand in stark opposition to your opinions.
International opinion of the United States is higher now than it has been in over ten years (Pew Research). For the first time since Clinton other nations are looking to us for help and guidance rather than running from it as was the case under Bush.
If you look at all of the expenses that you can ascribe directly to Obama (Stimulus, Health Care), it is still a very small fraction, about 1/4-1/3 of the, of the economic burden created by the Afghan War, the War in Iraq, the tax cuts, and the TARP. In addition, Bush came into office with an $800B surplus and turned it into an $800B deficit. That's a $1.6 trillion swing. Bush's irresponsible and collossal squandering of America's wealth and two decades of deregulation led to the crash of 2008, i.e the destruction of the American economy.
You cannot have an exit strategy, without a schedule. Obama has made it clear, as has Petraius and Gates, that the schedule is a guideline. American deaths in Afghanistan have NOT increased because of this. Rather they have increased steadily over the past eight years because of the incompetance of, or unwillingness by the Bush administration to focus on the goal and do what needed to be done to catch and kill bin LAden, and to win the war in Afghanistan. When teh number of American deaths under Obama equals those under Bush, than you can get back to me.
Perhaps you were not watching the news, and perhaps you were not listneing to your own people. Palin et al griped that Obama was being too tough on BP. Do you think he was too tough on BP by forcing them to pay for the damages their spilled caused? The moratorium did not cost thousands of jobs. The paychecks for the workers on those rigs will be paid by BP.
This country is already divdied on race. The tea Baggers have demonstrated that. Thje steep increase in death threats on Obama before he was even elected, and before he was even inaugurated demonstrated that. How has he divided the nation by religion? Because that he has pointed out that the Constitution protects the right to practice the religion of your choice.
He has villanized the villains in industry. Or would you rather that they be free to continue to rob us? He has proposed nd the Congress has passed legislation to regulate lending and investment banks aimed at preventing a recurring of the 2008 crash, which most experts have said would certainly happen again, had we continued doing business as usual.
He "threatens?" You mean it's something he hasn't actually done, but that your sources say he will do?
First of all, considering our healthcare system spends more than twice as much per capita on healthcare ($7000/per person/yr) than the next worst country (Swiss), I would argue that our system is already "destroyed." That said, I challenge you to describe in detail, exactly how he has destroyed our healthcare system. Specifically identiy the component or components of healthcare that will destroy the already destroyed system. Please cite estimated costs.
It's not a matter of her being a bad debater. She is clearly in way over her head. She's not very bright. The budget was balanced by cutting necessary programs and infrastructure projects. Phoenix roads are already looking like crap.
She has done nothing to prevent illegal immigration except to blame all of Arizona's problems on the Fed, and to step back and let others waste our time and money proposing unconstitutional legislation. Illegal immigration is lower now than it has been at any time during the Bush administration. ICE arrests and deportations are higher than at any time during the Bush administration. Arizona Illegal immigrant haters have never had it so good, thanks to the Fed, not to anything anyone in Arizona has done.
Just because she froze up during the debate does not mean she isn't qualified to govern. Obama can read a teleprompter (unless he's trying to read 'corpsmen' and instead reads 'corpsemen') and he can't govern.
@Rush is OK: I'm sorry you aren't able to read comments which haven't been broken down into simple sentences. For your benefit, I'll try to incorporate Internet slang in my future posts.
I would say that this Governor Brewer is a normal person. She hasn't claimed to be a great orator and she is a great govenor as we are all finding out (except of course the liberal left morons). It is amazing to me that people judge according to one's ability to have diarrhea of their oral cavities as opposed to their deeds and actions. For example, let's talk about Obama and his golden oracles which have led many of his drones to have orgasm's as he nodded right and left, reading so eloquently from his teleprompter. We know he can read! How about his actions? Grade: F. Jan Brewer doesn't need to debate anyone and she will be re-elected because her heart is in protecting the citizens of her state. The federal government is the true morons here - and most of America sees it. Governor Brewer has much more on her mind that debating another self-serving Democratic idiot.
How pathetic she is. One more time she proves the party of NO is incompetent to run for anything. It's shows sane AMericans that there are those in our society who are willing to vote people into office and it doesn't matter how ignorant or stupid they are. I bet Al Quida is laughting at us because they know we will destroy ourselves because the RW ers are so out there and they are willing to sacrific our country just to make Obama look bad. Mary-351467 is proof that no matter how stupid their candidate is, they will still vote for them. No wonder our country is in a mess and to think the Repubs will save our country when all they want to do is to help the wealthy, oil companies, wall street and finance corporations while shipping American jobs overseas. How hard is it to understand that the Repubs are against the working class.
A cowardly response from a typical coward. This is right out of the Sharron Angle/Sarah Palin playbook of childishly running away.
Hobie
you funny....
mandt: Beautifully done, point-by-point. It's just a shame that the people who need the information in your post will see that it argues against them and skip it, ignoring everything you said.
For the record: President Obama is doing a good job. Not a great job, perhaps, but only because he's too far to the right, and spends way too much effort trying to appease those who will hate him no matter what he does.
Jan Brewer is a sock puppet, permanently with foot in mouth.
Hobie81 do you know anything besides the tea party talking points? Or is ADD the problem. The country was in ruin long before Obama even ran for president--or were you under a rock the last ten years? As for the rest of the world--have you actually ever been out of the country? There's a lot of really nice places in the world with even more amenities that we can only hope for. The rest of the world really has a quite favorable impression of us. And how many jobs were lost as a result of the oil spill(s). and lastly I'm a small businessman and I'm still waiting for the onerous Federal Regulations that are out to kill my business--is just not so. My competitiors who hire the undocumented workers and pay them sub-subsistence wages is a bigger problem. And my healthcare is okay. and I don't even like obama. i only voted for him because he wasn't a Republican.
Just like everything else, she was only in it (the debate) for the money, shameful!
She's absolutely correct. She has a different vehicle to promote her work - the state's latest law and her efforts (and ability) to keep the feds out.
Over Jan Brewer? That is too funny. I hardly think they care who the governor of AZ is. As we know, the President of Mexico cares and our President sues one of the United States.
I can not wait until Odumbo is out of office.
Look at most comment lists dealing with politics and you will find people like Hobie81 who have a hatred for Obama and the fictional liberals that swim menacingly in their limited intellects. What is remarkable is how quickly one can recognize their diatribe for what it is, misinformed by choice bigotry.
It's no secret that Brewer showed up for the debate strictly for monetary reasons. Goddard had asked her for about 6 debates on a variety of subjects. She turned down the idea in short order. The public should be suspect of those who desire to lead, but do not wish to debate a qualified challenger. It's clear now that Brewer is a confused slow thinker and not qualified to sit in command of a state. Her periodic mis-statements and terrible performance would be first-class fodder for the challenger in a debate.
At least she freely admits that she'll only do the bare minimum to get her hands on tax-payer money, as evidenced by her claim that she only agreed to this debate because it was required to get $1.7 million in public campaign funding.
But, doing the minimum amount of work possible shouldn't be surprising from someone with minimum intelligence.
What a rancid @!$%#.
Wasn't Mitch on Meet the Press prior to the AZ law saying that the Repubs (or American's) aren't interested in debating this issue at this point? It was fillibuster after fillibuster to block Obama from doing anything, including discussing illegal immigration, then all of a sudden it becomes a BS story about the Feds not doing anything. Yet when they tried, who stonewalled them? Real nice to be against something (stopping illegal immigration) then acting like the government hasn't done anything to stop it. Who wasn't interested in tackling the problem? Oh yeah, the Republicans. Then all of a sudden it magically becomes an issue to scold the Dems for not going after.
They wouldn't be here were it not for an insatiable demand for cheap labor and the economic conditions in Mexico, where the per capita income is a fourth that of the United States'.
mandt (and other hobie bashers),
About the hobie comments:
1) World is laughing at our foreign policy.
Fact is, if it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious. When the French President has a tougher approach to Iran getting the bomb than the president of the US - Obama's foreign policy IS a joke. E-6 leaders openly mocked Obama at the last summit. Europe laughed at Obama's handling of the gulf spill and and his little shrimp boat skimmers. Leaders around the world laugh at Obama going horizontal to every two bit dictator. Obama's breaking the deal for missile defense in eastern Europe is ludicrous. Hammas and Hezbolah think its pretty funny what Obama is doing to Israel. The guy is fighting a war against radical Islamic terrorism and Obama doesn't have the guts to even say those three words. He can't close GITMO, he can't figure out how to put KSM on trial, on and on. Hobie is right. He is a joke.
2) Run up the nation's credit card.
Bottom line. Bush put us in a ditch. Obama said he could get us out. We hired him and gave him a trillion to get us out of the ditch. We are deeper in the ditch and now have a trillion dollar credit card bill that we can't pay for. Hobie was right.
3) Afghanistan
You arrogantly stated that when the number of deaths under Obama reach the number of deaths under Bush, for Hobie to get back to you. Bad news genius, happened over two months ago for deaths due to hostile action. Afghanistan deaths to date (20 months) under Obama are 632 all reasons / 565 due to hostile action. Under Bush (87 months) the numbers are 564 all reasons / 412 due to hostile action. The monthly averaged loss rate under Obama is 6 TIMES the rate under Bush! Your thoughts on the exit date are as clueless as your awareness of casuality reality. Hobie was right.
4) Govt Agencies / Gulf spill / Moratorium
The E.P.A. was used to deny foreign assistance as represented by all the modern European skimmers. No excuse for oil hitting the beaches and marshlands, Obama had authority and the responsibility to to remove BP and take over. Moratorium and BP paying for the jobs? Let's see Obama win either one in a court. Irregardless, Deepwater Horizon cost was $500,000 a day just for rig rental. The oil industry does not have the time/money to play stupid, insane political games with Obama, they are leaving and they aren't coming back soon. America can buy oil from the Arabs and others that American companies produce for. Obama said the moratorium would not effect shallow water operations. Obama changed the rules on them and approvals / permitting is less than 10% of what it was pre- Deepwater. Energy industry knows what Obama is doing to it. They will go overseas and liberal idiots will cry about jobs going overseas. Hobie was right.
5) Divided nation.
Racial? I don't know, but Obama sitting for 20 years on the first row of one of the most bigoted, racist pastors in history, picking a minority for SCOTUS that openly says her decisions are better than old white guys, talking about certain people "clinging to their guns and bibles", on and on doesn't help Obama. The big thing however, is Arizona. Obama wantonly ignores his federal responsibility to enforce immigration in his blatant attempt to appease a minority voting block. Sad reality is that Obama doesn't care about Hispanics, he just cares about the Hispanic votes. Obama doesn't care about anything, but Obama and Obama's agenda. Like this issue, or the mosque mess, obama always seems to be on the other side of the majority of Americans. America is fed up. Botton line - Obama is the most polarizing and divisive president in Gallup history. That is a fact. Hobie was right.
6) Ah, Nevermind. There is a pattern developing and the veracity of your remaining comments holds up no better than the veracity of your first 5 comments.
Botton line though - Hobie has it figured out way better than you do.
On item 5: I don't buy the "He made me do it" argument for dividing the nation. Read the comments in this thread to illustrate my point. I see a lot of divisive statements that the people of America are making. No one made them do it. As long as you can place responsibility for you own actions, thoughts, and comments on someone else, you can expect that nothing will change. Otherwise, be led by the nose and be the mindless minions of those who provide content for you own thoughts.
Huh?
Obama was scored the most partisan, liberal senator in 2007. Obama campaigned as a post partisan centrist who would "change" Washington, help heal the nation, no red states blue states, etc., in 2008. America bought it and elected him. After the election, the post partisan / centrist mask came off and he governed as the most radical liberal, promoting his radical big government agenda. He said the economy and jobs were the focus - job 1, then spent most of his effort and energy on the first item on his social agenda - HCR. America was against not reform, but this radical reform. Obama's efforts on his HCR was as former Democrat pollster Pat Caddell said - "a crime against Democracy" with the way it was passed, the lies, the browbeating, the "Cornhusker deal", the "Louisiana Purchase", the deem and pass bull, etc. He said America would love it after it was passed and America found out what was in it. Well Americans hate it and they don't know the half of it. Same with everything, FinRef, bailouts, on and on - it always advances government control and power.
Again - Huh?
Did Obama make America vote for him? Of course not. Did Obama make Americans realize they got it wrong? Did Obama make people get off the couch and form a tea party? Did Obama make the Republicans oppose him? Of course not. They could have chosen to close their eyes and continued to pretend/convince themselves that Obama wasn't clueless - that it was all Bush's fault and Palin's fault and Fox's fault and Brewer's fault and the other 60%-80% of everyone else's fault.
It is what it is.
The fact remains - Obama is the most divisive and polarizing American President in Gallup history.
Bob, you sound very angry at our President, and perhaps you should be. But you have failed to provide a convincing argument that he is dividing the nation. You say "America this and that" as if you are the voice for everyone in America - this leaves no room for those who have different viewpoints. You are representing your opinion as the voice of America. Certainly, there may be others who agree with you, but that does not by any measure represent America as a whole.
The fact that Republicans oppose him does not make him divisive. There have been and hopefully always will be differing and opposing viewpoints in this country. The fact that he is a proponent of healthcare reform does not make him divisive. Just because he has opponents does not make him divisive. This seems to be at the heart of your argument, but just because you disagree with a viewpoint doesn't make the person who holds it divisive.
On the other hand, people making hate-filled comments and throwing out insults instead of engaging in constructive debate, does create dissension and divisiveness.
When I say that it is a fact that Obama is the most divisive and polarizing American President in Gallup history, I am not representing an opinion and I am not representing my opinion as the voice of America. I am simply reporting that Gallup, in their history of their taking polls of the American people, has found that America is more divided and polarized (by a wide margin) under Obama than any other President since they began taking polls 40+ years ago. If you have a problem with Gallup and their scientific polling methodology, take it up with them. Gallup is one of the most respected polling organizations in America. All major networks, major newspapers, major news organizations, etc. find Gallup credible and all use Gallup, just as I did. If this is too difficult for you, sorry.
@bob
While you seem to think you're representing facts (OOH, GALLUP POLL!!) you're simply using an obvious logical fallacy -- post hoc, ergo propter hoc. (translation: "After this therefore because of this.")
Obama hasn't done anything to divide us. 'Under the covers,' America has always been divided because of irrational racist attitudes that the Rabid Right has ALWAYS HELD. These racial divisions America are on prominent display now because we have a mixed-race President. So BIGOTS are simply using the energy of their racial biases as an excuse to attack President Obama. Even though this article was about that DUMBASS JAN BREWER.
So, if it isn't too difficult for you, shove your Gallup.
If that's the best you can do, spew bigot/racist and say shove it, you should probably leave it to mandt and others to discuss/present the liberal perspective until you are ready for big boy pants.
In case that is "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" - that you are actually a witless Obama leg humper instead of a child, sorry for insulting your limited capacity.
Hmm, you're obviously no smarter than Jan Brewer is, either.
Time for you to brush your tooth.
Oh Please, there is nothing different about her forgetting and giggling about forgetting on FOX. What a lying sack of crap she is!
Bev -
please just say what you need to and try to refrain from the cheap name calling.
What does "lying sack of crap" bring to the debate? I've read enough of your posts to know you aren't dumb, so the name calling must just be gratuitous. It adds nothing.
Kirby
Bev -
please just say what you need to and try to refrain from the cheap name calling.
What does "lying sack of crap" bring to the debate? I've read enough of your posts to know you aren't
dumb, so the name calling must just be gratuitous. It adds nothing.
Kirby, I'll let you firgue it out. When I call you one then you can snitch. In the mean time let me set you straight. My father is 90 so STHU.
And my Father is 89 and what does that have to do with anything? The lack of any kind of courtesy on either the left or right on these posts is just ridiculous.
When insults are thrown back and forth then whatever real viable points are made, nobody pays attention.
Want to get your point across Bev? Just state it Til then you can STHU as well.
Want to get your point across Bev? Just state it Til then you can Want to get your point across Bev? Just state it Til then you can STHU as well.
KIRBY,
I asked you first to STHU with regards to me. Can you do that; I'm asking?
If you would like Bev I can put you on my Ignore list. Too bad because sometimes you have viable, reasonable things to say. And I love the city of Chicago.
kirby in idaho
If you would like Bev I can put you on my Ignore list. Too bad because sometimes you have viable, reasonable things to say. And I love the city of Chicago.
Suit yourself; Kirby
I always do. You,too.
Beverly in Chicago
"They are a lying sack of crap". I think Progressives should stop the naunce. It is obvious from these posts, when a "bully" is confronted, they run squealling like a stuck pig. "keep it real" Bev.
I do not understand the argument that Obama has divided this nation. I think people should stand up and take responsibility for their own views and comments instead of blaming them on someone else. Just take a few minutes to read through just about any of these threads and you will see divisive language in the form of hate-statements and name-calling. People choose to spew insults, personal attacks, and hate-filled comments instead of engaging in constructive debate. I think this is what divides the nation. Stop blaming others for your own actions.
Just what the State of Arizona needs-- a governor unwilling to debate an opponent because of a gaffe. Yeah, that's the ticket...
Funny how there are a lot of right-wing governors retreating in recent years because of Nixonian performances in the public eye.
It doesn't surprise me in the least Ginger... she's following the right wing nitwit play book and refusing to talk to anyone other than her adoring tea bagging followers...
It should be interesting to watch this play out this coming fall...
I have been watching candidate forums and debates, both in my local elections and national and other states. I have to say I have never seen so many inarticulate and ill-informed people running for office in my life. Aren't there some kind of minimum standards or something? I thought debates and forums were designed to let voters know candidates' qualifications. Now, it seems voters don't really care whether people are qualified or not. Why would someone who can't speak in public and has little knowledge of the issues want to run for public office anyway? I would think they would be embarrassed.
Feisty;
Right out of Roves manual. When you have no ideas, no agenda, a postion that you cannot defend you best bet it to say nothing. This is the republican (Tea Party) way. They call for debates and news conferences and when the questions come they flee. Angle could set a world record for the 40 yard dash. Brewer ran away from the headless bodies question.
Question:
How can anybody run for office by not telling us what their positions are?
How are you gong to create jobs?
How are you going to lower the deficit?
How are you going to help the Middle Class?
What is your vision for this country?
If you dodge the questions then you need not apply for the position. I want to know who I am electing to office to represent me. I want somebody that addresses the questions from the people and not only respond to ones that are scripted by their handler's.
I hear ya Retired...
It's mind boggling that there are citizens in this country who have something as precious as a VOTE - and that they would even considerof pulling the lever for ANYONE who refuses to answer questions...
(notice I didn't even say 'tough' questions ala Sarah Failin) lol
"Jan Brewer, quick! WHAT NEWSPAPERS DO YOU READ!?"
And that was the beginning of the end...
"I certainly will take my message in a different venue out to the people of Arizona," she said.
Jan Brewer doesn't have a clue. i said a month ago that all this immirgration talk was a front for her re-election. she has played on peoples fears and racists additude toward mexican illegals. granted they are illegals. dispite FBI stats that are saying voilance along the border has decreased over the last 3 years she made that a issue and divided alot of people in america. she has called out the federal government for not doing there job, but as we see now after last night, she is not qualified for her Job.
Now she say she is taking her message to the people of arizona. her message will continue to be about illegals and will continue to play on peoples fear , because that all she has.
but hey i don't live there and if the people of arizona want a race baiter as governer, that on them.
Jeff - I am in agreement with you. As all of you know, I have been a VEHEMENT opponent of SB 1070 because I felt that it infringed upon the rights of Americans. It seems that my point(s) against that law were the same points that Judge Bolton had as well - and I am NOT even a lawyer!
My previous posts will bear out this fact. Look them up for yourself.
Now that the wind has been taken out of the sails on this issue, we are finding out that Gov. Brewer has NOTHING to say, really.
- The budget is not balanced.
- DEEP budget cuts have been made to the education budget.
- There is economic fallout that is the DIRECT result of SB 1070, resulting in a loss of MILLIONS of dollars in tourist revenue.
- Rounding up illegal immigrants will now cost the Arizona taxpayer more because of this, as the law mandates that these illegal immigrants be housed in Arizona facilities before ICE can pick them up. Whoi do you think will pay for the detention of all of those illegal immigrants?
- The Federal Government is suing because Arizona does NOT have the right to give itself Federal Powers to deal with immigration issues, which is EXACTLY what SB 1070 does.
So what POSITIVE things DOES Gov. Brewer bring to the table?
It is pretty obvious that she is on her heels now, squandering all of that good will that she got when SB 1070 was going to be the law of Arizona. Now, she will not debate her opponent. She will not answer any questions, especially when it concerns the CCA and her camapign's ties to it.
Gov. Brewer is acting a LOT like Sharron Angle (of Nevada) now, and that is NOT a compliment.
Now, if Arizona elects this woman as its Governor, then you will get what you deserve - NOTHING - except greater deficits, a shrinking tax base and a marked drop in tourism.
The immigration issue IS A SMOKESCREEN to get Gov. Brewer elected. That's all it ever was. I guess the calculation of picking on the illegal immigrant - a group of people who have NO Power and NO SAY in how things go - may end up backfiring on Gov. Brewer.
Or Not.
Arizona, if this is the type of representation you want in your Statehouse, then good luck to you.
Pietro, Columbus, Ohio
She will not answer any questions, especially when it concerns the CCA and her camapign's ties to it.
Update: Pietro
Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings
"That was an error, if I said that," the Republican told The Associated Press on Friday. "I misspoke, but you know, let me be clear, I am concerned about the border region because it continues to be reported in Mexico that there's a lot of violence going on and we don't want that going into Arizona."
She said she was referring to beheadings and other cartel-related violence in Mexico in comments she made earlier this summer about decapitated bodies found in the state's southern region.
Brewer apparently first referred to beheadings during a June 16 interview with Fox News, talking about "the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can't feel safe in their community" in discussing controversy surrounding the immigration law.
She went further in a June 27 interview on Phoenix television station KPNX when asked about the earlier beheadings claim.
"Oh, our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded," Brewer said.
In fact, there have been beheadings in Mexico in violence associated with criminal cartels that include those active in cross-border smuggling.
And some violence has spilled over the border, including the March slaying of a southern Arizona rancher, Robert Krentz. Law enforcement officials have said they believe Krentz was killed by an illegal immigrant, likely a scout for drug smugglers.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2010/Sep/03/ariz__governor_says_she_was_wrong_about_beheadings.html
Now, the next questions will be for Governor Brewer to explain her affliations to the prison complex and the Neo Nazi group that wrote the SB1070 bill Governor Brewer signed into law .
Beverly in Chicago - thanks for the update.
Gov. Brewer is still hedging her bets, though.
If you said that, Gov. Brewer?
Arizona, you deserve better representation than this.
Pietro, Columbus, Ohio
Arizona, you deserve better representation than this.
That is so true Peitro; especially when you deliberately lie using scare tactics to gin up support for a corrupt law. If doctors can't back up claim, you'r really a fear and hate monge. BTW: The Brown People she'll be sending to jail will benefit her friends in the prison complex of CCA, Tennessee-based prison companyCorrections Corporation of America has donated $1,780 in "seed money" forGovernor Jan Brewer's Clean Elections campaign.
Plenty of immigrants have died after entering the country illegally, officials with the medical examiners offices said. Some died for lack of water crossing the Arizona desert. Others were killed in violent confrontations with drug cartels that smuggle narcotics and humans.
Their statements are significant because their offices would have investigated and known about any violent deaths.
Janice Fields, who works for a private company that acts as the corner's office for Cochise County, said police have brought in two human skulls found in the desert during the past four years.
But none of them, Fields said, were the result of a beheading. Investigators identified one of the victims as a U.S. citizen, she said. The other human head remains unidentified.
Just because a skull is found, she said, doesn't mean someone's head was cut off.
"Once they die in the desert, the animals tend to get a hold of them and start moving their body parts around," Fields said.
Brewer appeared on Channel 12's "Sunday Square Off" last weekend. During the show, Brewer said people in Arizona were living in fear. She said that in some cases parents were scared to send their children to school.
Toward the end of the show, Brewer was asked about her earlier claims that people were being beheaded. Brewer stood by her statements and said "our law enforcement" agencies had said they were finding decapitated bodies in the desert.
County coroners can't back Brewer beheadings claim
http://www.arizonaguardian.com/azg/index.php?catid=937:campaigns-a-elections-fp&id=2201:county-coroners-cant-back-brewer-beheadings-claim&option=com_content&view=article
See she deliberately lied and had to consult her masters befor she would even hint at the truth. Notice she still has not admitted it was a deliberate lie.
Hmmm . . . when reality collides with talking points . . . forget political party . . . can we get some basic competence for elected officials please?
Good grief.
I'm with you on that.
Nashville.. She is competent! Why do you think she signed the immigration law? AZ borders Mexico and her citizens are being murdered by illegal immigrants all-the-while the administration does NOTHING. Wait, yes they are... Obama is agreeing with the President of Mexico. He must protect his votes, not his citizens of America. She is fighting an uphill battle... she is doing the right thing.
Actually the administration has done quite a bit. Most illegals deported-2009 under Obama. Most citations for companies hiring illegals--2009 under Obama. Most troops on the border since the Mexican American war--nder Obama. Illegal immigration is down about 60 percent, but don't let facts influence your criticism of our President.
Violent crime is down in AZ. The kidnapping capital of the world lie was just that, a lie. President Obama has enforced the law very well. But if all you watch is faux entertainment, well, vote for idiots...
"Rush is OK" says it all... that is if you are speaking of the overweight drug using, lying college dropout who makes millions off of of his semi-conscious legion of drones.
Just how many Arizonans have been killed by those illegal border crossers? Can you get that one correct?
Yes, the border area is an unsavory, if beautiful part of our desert. And yes, I am packing if I am in the area. Yeah, liberal minded folks carry. Another myth busted. Do you really think the nation's forefathers would have been regarded as conservatives in their day? It's actually pretty liberal to declare the freedom of the press and the right to bear arms.
Brewer and gang have done maybe one decent thing for the citizens of the state and that was to change the concealed carry law to allow concealed weapons in establishments that serve alcohol. You can carry if you don't drink. Makes perfect sense for most restaurants.
Now that is done, we can boot her out and get some fiscal competence and thinking leadership back in the governor's office.
As an impartial observer it is quite apparent that she just lost her head and then would not tell the press where it went..simple.
Maybe she'll find it in the desert.
with the rest of the "headless" torsos...........lol
Why should she the people of Arizona love her she has a 20 point advantage with less than 60 days to go so it is pretty much a done deal for her she is going to be reelected because in Arizona they actually want people to protect them and enforce the laws.
Wade, she wasn't elected, I hope she wins so she can follow in the Illinois gov.'s footsteps when they check her connections to those private prisons.
Nash and Exodite Dragon
That makes 3 of us and I'll bet a lot of others too.
Jomama
As an impartial observer it is quite apparent that she just lost her head and then would not tell the press where it went..simple.
Too too funny. As an mpartial observer I don't think she had any brains in that head to start out with.
I feel that anyone running for office who refuses to answer questions should not get my vote nor anyone elses. The voters need to know about the candidate, not just what they put out on a flyer. And if they can't answer questions, or run as fast as they can from the media, voters should run as fast as they can from that person.
I think we're all guilty of being a little too unwilling to objectively examine the faults of our elected leaders and potential candidates in favor how much we align with their respective messages.
Case in point - I bought into and ate up everything Obama had to say leading up to the election in 2008, without really considering how his relative inexperience in Washington, being a first-term Senator, might hinder his capacity to cut deals when appropriate - or when to stand firm, for that matter.
I'm a sucker for optimistic idealism, what can I say?
I'll agree with you on your point - but Obama was doomed from the day he stepped into office. The GOP has made certain that they will try to stop everything. Do people realize that the unemployment would have been higher with nothing being done? If all the banks had been allowed to fail, we would be worse than we are now. Now I don't like the bailout either. But I also looked at the alternative. But people don't realize the deficit ballooned on mainly 2 pieces of legislation during teh Bush years, their medicare program and the tax cuts. Niether were paid for. People don't realize under Reagan, his tax cuts, the deficit went up 189%. Anyway, President doesn't get ANY credit for the good things that he has done, just criticism (Bush was the same way, he had some good things as well). I just want people to stop saying Obama is the cause of everything that is bad.
Anyway, we need to hold our elected officials accountable. ALL of them, EVERY SINGLE one of them, has forgotten that it should be PRIVILEGE to serve, not just a paying job.
Quite so! You're absolutely right that there would be a great deal more people out of work now had the mortgage lenders and auto industry been allowed to collapse upon itself. I once mulled over whether the consequences of allowing those firms to fail would've been outweighed on the principal of the market 'self-correcting,' but ultimately decided that a better option would've been the removal of those people who made the decisions that led AIG, Goldman Sachs and Chrysler down the path they trod.
Greed within an executive does not justify the job loss of hundreds if not thousands of dilligent employees and the disruption of their lives.
Of course, the only result to that would've been greater rhetorical clamor from the Republicans about the vile "Socialist takeover" threatening to obliterate the nation.
It pains me to say it now, but I do not think that Hillary would've succumbed as easily as Obama in the face of the right-wing's onslaught.
Wow,
How interesting Meg Whitman, Sharon Angle and Jan Brewer all mimicking Sarah Palin not one answering questions except when they control the questioning! Its like they are really hiding something, I don't know about you but that is quiet disturbing to me, that we will put these type of people in office to run our government. If you want to be the government you must be able to stand up under the pressure of simple questioning.
When you run from a question you look incompetent or guilty of whatever the accusation was. It would be simple to say no comment and move on but just to clam up is very unprofessional its what i expect a child to do. But these are the grown ups..
The same goes for the great Obama. The guy can't answer unscripted questions.
It is a pattern that the GOP follow so they won't get caught in their own mistakes and have to be accountable and it will eliminates some of the potential uncomfortable questions and situations that will not help them win. It also speaks loudy of disdain for anything but their own to judge them and that they speak for all America (which of course they do not). They are truly repulsive and that does not make the Democrats wonderful by any means but the Democrats are more realistic and do have to answer to everyone. GOP are elitists.
jdmb03 - You haven't been paying attention. Obama has had many unscripted interviews (many, many more than Bush did). He just doesn't do them for FOXNews.
jdmbo3. Prove it.
Guess you didn't watch President Obama at the Republican Congress's annual meeting--no notes, no teleprompter and he took them to the cleaners. He also did this at the HC forum. Pay attention.
OMG,...the 'dumbing down' of America is practically complete. These folks are ENTITLED to govern and feel NO SENSE Of responsibility to present themselves as rational human beings who have given any long term thought to governing ALL citizens, not just the like minded ones. If these embarassing candidates can't express themselves any more cojently, why on earth should they be elected?
Arizona, please show the country that you aren't this simple minded. I know you can do it! Please!
Dumbing down yes only 28% of Americans could name the Chief Justice! Fox is killing this country.
Was that the Governor or a Severe Head Trauma Patient ?Really now,these Repub ,T/Bagger wackos are a total embarrassment to America!
Just like her buddy, Failin' Palin. Can't debate to save her ass, so just refused to do so. Won't answer any tough questions, just keeps spewing the hate and fear that the whackos love. Nice Job, Jan!
You guys sure are scared of Palin, aren't you?
Actually, they're just like mastheads on a ship. They stand out front while someone else writes all their lines. The puppet master must have fumbled...
They stand out front while someone else writes all their lines....
You must be talking about Obama and his teleprompter!
Back to the stupid teleprompter. Get a life - Bush used it and so did your god Reagan. Just because Obama is better at it than those two every Republican has to complain about it.
Elise, is there anything worse than these stale talking points? Not an original thought from any of these right wing posters.
What is it about these dumb GOP women running for or running away from office who cant string a few simple sentences together.
They all are a testament to the Peter Principle.
It is indeed a shame she won't debate. There is no doubt she had a heap of trouble in the first (and apparently) debate. I didn't see the whole thing so I don't know what else was talked about. Does anyone? I do know from having lived in AZ for over 20 years that Goddard is just a political hack who was a lousy mayor and not much of an AG.
So, in another race, the voters are left with lousy choices from either party.
If you don't live in Arizona then you don't really know anything about Governor Brewer or her opponent. One slip at a debate does not disqualify anyone from office, if it did no one currently holding office would have been elected. Let the people of Arizona decide, besides none of the above post are anything but left wing talking points. Maybe you people should worry about your own state elections. BTW I am not from Arizona so I don't have a dog in the fight.
I am from Arizona and this was way more than just a slip. Jan Brewer lost it totally and could not get back on tract. Her verbiage was that of someone in second grade trying to describe her new pony as she stumbled to find any simple word to describe what she had done for the state. She was so general and evasive as to be unrecognizable as worthy to be a canadidate running for any office. I feel bad for anyone who publicly embarrasses themselves in public, but this was really disgraceful on any level.
The slip isn't the problem. Refusing to answer to her own talking point was the problem with me (I don't live in AZ either). She's stated there are headless torsos in the AZ desert, but there is no evidence of that. She refused to answer that question. Even Sheriff Arpio (however it is spelled) couldn't confirm that. He told CNN's John King "I can't speak for the governor" "maybe she was talking about the Mexico side". She has also stated that ALL immigrants are coming here to sell drugs and commit cirmes............we know that is not true. It has also been reported the budget is NOT balanced as she states. So instead of using GOP talking points and using the politics of fear (of immagrants), she should state her plan for the economy of AZ and the issues of AZ (not just immagration).
When Jan Brewer signed the law, she lost it, too. Started to say something, couldn't think of anything. Looked just like she did at the debate. I can't vote in AZ but I do know I expect debates in Iowa--I want to see how a candidate answers questions, speaks, presents ideas, and doesn't look like a deer in headlights.
You call that a slip?? She absolutely froze. She entered a fugue state (Google that) and her eyes rolled back in her head. She knew she was being called on to defend a lie and whatever decency remains in her rebelled at the thought of doing so on camera. There may be hope for her yet but she in no way is qualified to be chief executive of any state.
UPDATE: She said she "erred". Not good enough Jan. You have to admit that you knew that there were no headless corpses at the time you first made the statement. In other words...TELL THE TRUTH!
Liberals love to see Brewer stumble. This debate story will be front and center on every liberal news show. No one said Brewer is perfect. Keep that in mind. I know liberals have trouble being open minded.
Actually, Fox was the first read on this. You'd like to think it was just the MSM out for a hack job, though, wouldn't you?
I would have liked to see her defend her actions. I would have liked to see her call out her opponent and make some points. That is what a debate is all about, no? I may not have agreed with her, but you cannot 'sell' your position(s) if you do not articulate them.
Who knows? Maybe she could have 'sold' me and made me eat crow about SB 1070!!
I guess we will never see that, will we?
Brewer's pathetic performance in the debate merely illustrates your pathetic performance as governor of my home state. DUMP BREWER, ARIZONA'S NAZI WITCH!
Brewer is a Nazi Witch because she does not want a bunch of illegal criminals running around Arizona? I guess that makes me a Nazi too.
great name..lol..join the club
jdmb03:
Yes, we're all against those nasty illegal aliens chopping people's heads off in Arizona. We're also against fire-breathing dragons and Flying Purple People Eaters, and any other imaginary threat Brewer may dream up to inflame public opinion.
...some of us might be those fire-breathing dragons. ;_;
I don't really care if she is good on camera or not. Washington, and many state capitals, are filled with great teleprompter reading, " silver-tongued devils" who know how to BS to get elected. Maybe she is just not a good public speaker. I like her ideas, not her speech-making ability. If Odummo wasn't so great at laying in on thick and heavy, he'd never get elected dogcatcher.
Exactly which ideas are these?
What are her ideas, from the day she set foot on the national scene, it is clear she is in over her head. The immigration bill just made it easier for her to get elected in her own right ,she seized on that and ran with it.
Her previous position, Secy of State was more suitable to her limited intellect and party loyalty. She reminds me of another Secy of State, in Florida, Katherine Harris. She also had a limited intellect with plenty of party loyalty, who sold the country down the river when she refused to allow the ballot counting to continue in November of 2000 and we all know how that turned out.
Sorry About That Chief
I watched Keith and Rachel last night deal with this story. And then I watched their re-runs. And all I heard was headless bodies. It was so funny listening to the journalists attempting to get Gov. Brewer to explain where in her state these headless bodies were found. She wouldn't answer. Nor could she talk about her accomplishments. This ladies and gentleman is a governor of a state in America who is going to win in November. And then Rachel talked about the guy Maes(?) out in Colordo who lied about being an undercover agent. (Who would do that?)
btw, where did the idea come where all spies/detectives wore trench coats, smoked cigarettes and drank a lot? Alan Ladd? Bogart? It certainly didn't come from Agent 86, the best of them all.
Senator: Mr. Smart, how many arrests did Control make last year?
Maxwell Smart: I don't know.
Senator: Who's the number one man in your organization?
Maxwell Smart: I don't know.
Senator: How many cases were assigned to Control last year?
Maxwell Smart: I don't know.
Senator: What would you do if you were fired, Mr. Smart?
Maxwell Smart: They can't fire me. I know too much.
"Chief, I think it's time Gov. Brewer used 'The Cone Of Silence."
Well then, since Brewer lost her train of thought and says nothing for 10 seconds, the socialist is obviously the better choice for Arizonans.
It was so much worse than you are describing it. Really - Did you watch it? Not to be mean but it was utterly pathetic to the point of disgraceful. I was very embarrassed for her and hoped she could retrieve her senses and get back on track - she would not. She was one very lost puppy! I have never seen such a humilating debate ever in my life.
'Cringe inducing' came to mind like watching Michael (Steve Carrel from The Office) in one of his most embarrassing implosions.
I don't think Republicans have to be answerable to the public.
Really? Only Democrats have a responsibility to the public that elects them eh?
That explains a lot, thanks.
You elitist! That is why you will never get my vote. You sanctimoneous piece of pride.! See GOP - look at yourself. - Only you don't have to be accountable to the public. WOW get a grip!
Proud republican - it is your right to feel you do not have to be accountable to the public, but then you should therefore not run for public office. It only stands to reason you would not run for a public office if you did not want to be accountable to the public. Those who run for a public office MUST be accountable to the public that elected them - or is that concept to hard for you?
Janet-1524968
I dont think he was being serious dont get so riled up...Some statements are just meant to be laughed at and move on to the more serious comments.
Janet and Sean... do you understand Sarcasm? You obviously don't. But that's what you get from a liberal. Too stupid to read between the lines. Hence you elect Obama.
*Yawn*
Nice try. But there was no sarcasm, if there were then it was as pathetic as Brewers display at this debate.
BTW Obama wasn't there but thanks for playing.
'Cajones' can sometimes do that to you.You are in the middle of an important speech and a beauty goes by and... Better than 'impotent and limp' any day or 'selling out being kinda like the oldest profession.' Can someone tell me why the /GOP/Tea Party is running such a pornographic campaign? Mama Grizzly getting down and dirty! Come on! Not in front of the kids please! I already have to explain the ED commercials. I don't want to have to cover their ears and eyes, when Sara Ben and Rand come in the set. These guys have more porno, alleged kidnappings and beheadings between them to fill a NC17 movie.
You aren't really very clever or smart Frank. Have a nice day.
I can complete a grammatically correct sentence without sexual references and I'm not on the tea party ticket. I am ahead of the game. Have a nice day.
This woman is incompetent to govern any state. I used to consider AZ a safe place to visit and possibly relocate upon retirement. However, JB makes the state sound like the Murder Capital of the World with headless bodies (A LIE), etc.
I am embarrassed for the voters of AZ that they might actually leave this crazy lady in office.
I could actually sympathize with Brewer freezing up in the debate before a large audience. I'm sure lots of people could. What I cannot sympathize with is how she stone-walled reporters repeated questions on whether she stood by her claim that people were being beheaded by illegal aliens in the Arizona desert -- a claim she made to whip up hatred against illegal immigrants to help herself get elected. This is what we're going to get if the Republicans regain power: leaders who lie to the American people and who refuse to hold themselves accountable to the press for anything they do or say. Kind of like what we had from 2001 to 2009, except probably this time it may be much WORSE. We really could end up missing Bush if scoundrels and liars like Brewer come into power.
Rather reminiscient of McCarthy going on about the high-level infiltration of Communists in every element of the government - what a boon that turned out to be for him long-term.