I am so tired of politicians breaking our tax laws. Why are they above us in this matter?

Daschle, Geithner, Rangel, McCaskill ---do any democratic legislators pay their taxes? I almost forgot, its George Bush's fault...You libs, please defend the criminals I listed ! If I commited the crimes these people did I would be in prison.

I'm waiting on Feisty to chime in on this one...

Here Feisty Feisty Feisty...

How did this article make it on to MSNBC? The bad behavior of Democrats is supposed to be ignored, or at least excused.

If she was a Republican, "Republican" or "GOP" would have been the first word in the headline, and it wouldn't have been simply portrayed as a "wrinkle" but rather a serious criminal offense.

If she didn't pay the taxes, she should be held accountable. Now, let's hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the war crimes and fraud they committed.

<---agree 100% with W. Goin....if she did it, hold her accountable. Let's do the same for war criminals, eh?

W. Groin

Please be specific about the war crimes and fraud. Or are you just another leftie liberal fraud?

She did not pay taxes and I'll be shocked if she is held accountable. Is Charlie Rangel in jail yet?

Spanky,

No difference from Rangle, Waters and many more on both sides of the aisle. They just got caught.

Time to add an addemdum to the Congressional code of ethics, if there is such an animal, that if caught and censored, then away with the pension, the perks and the benefits.

Hey Bill, heard of Spiro Agnew???

bill-765872

Daschle, Geithner, Rangel, McCaskill ---do any democratic legislators pay their taxes?

Don't forget Duke Cunningham, Gary Miller, Bob Ney... and these are just Republicans with convictions ... My point being that there are cheaters on both sides of the isle. Nice try though.

Notice how the liberals always gravitate away from the issue of the article. W. Goin just can't help himself. How about we go after Obama for the constitutional crime he just committed by violating the War Powers Act... He did NOT have authorization to bomb Libya but yet liberals like you have to change the subject.

Stick to the subject or keep your off topic comments to your self.

This is about a DEMOCRAT not paying taxes... again! Democrats are famous for wanting more tax money from others but fail to pay the taxes themselves! If the liberals are so inclined (I know they aren't)... justify the criminal actions of your leaders by not making comparisons.

Typical right-wing nutjob rant! Speaking of keeping to the subject, what has Libya got to do with McCaskill?

Of course, Republicans are never guilty of not paying their taxes, huh? Randy Cunningham (who failed to pay taxes on the milloions in bribes he received) must have been a Democrat I guess. And John McCain (), Sarah Palin(), Duncan Hunter, Christine "the Witch" O'Donnell, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ed Rollins (owed over $1 million in back taxes) and Newt Gingrich, I guess they are all Democrats too. Yeah, right!

NonWatcher- typical liberal spin. What does Bush have to do with McCaskill?

Educated Thinker - Soooo What? Do others not paying their taxes have ANYTHING to do with McCaskill not paying hers? Not very educated in my opinion.

Brianb --- Typical right wing crap--spin. Next thing I expect to hear from you is "kick the can down the road."

And Bush, what the hell are you talking about? Calm down......your blood pressure is rising.

Brianb - I was responding to bill, who suggests this is strictly a problem for democrats. And I guess now responding to you, who seems to think the same thing (at 1.11). The article is about a legislator not paying taxes, one that happens to be a democrat.

The personal attack tells me you can't hang with an intelligent discussion on the issues; or do you feel that your lack of education is an excuse for your failure to understand that I was responding to bill? Everyone should pay their fair share, and if they cheat they should be prosecuted, whether they be democrats or republicans, citizens or foreigners, powerful or powerless, educated or clueless.

NonWatcher - sorry to disapoint you, but I am actually laughing while watching the liberals squirm. My BP is just fine. Your only defense is to point to others and their failures. Talk about typical left wing crap and spin. You would do much better by saying McCaskill did wrong instead of defending her by pointing to others failures.... Had you and the other liberals not fallen into your typical BS line of defense, you wouldn't be eating so much crow. Now you have stepped in it and it tickles me.

Bush? Take your little mousey thing and scroll back to post 1.7 and notice how a liberal had to bring Bush into this discussion. Got it? Good... now learn how to debate without looking like a deer in the headlights.

Educated Thinker - How about using a name when addressing someone's comments? This way everyone would be educated about who you are responding to. I would have avoided making a comment you made to someone else, and if I disagreed, I might make a response to add to the debate. If you notice, I always include a name when directing my comment to someone else... it lends to understanding why I comment.

brianb - So sorry you can't keep up. Safecracker, Nonwatcher and Charles (posts 1.8 - 1.10) all seem to have understood the direction of the conversation. But from now on I'll try and spell it out for you and other right-wingers who are slow to understand.

Brianb--See what an idiot you are. Post 1.7 is not mine, I didn't bring up Bush. And I could care less about McCaskill or any other politician. If we jailed every one who deserved it (both sides) there wouldn't be enough for a quorum.

Got it? Good....now, debating with you would be similar to a conversation with Glenn Beck. A complete waste of valuable time.

Educated Thinker....keep up the good fight. I have a meeting to go to, sorry I'll miss the rest of this.

Educated Thinker - Are you that desperate for attention that you feel the need to continue this? I followed it. Again I will state that liberals always detract from the context... notice the word context... by deflecting any democrat misdeed through pointing fingers at other people. It seems to be the only way a liberal can attempt to win. Well let me educate you... by doing your typical liberal operating procedure, you lose the debate. Don't you realize that those of us on the right know this? Are you that blind, or so full of yourself that you can't recognize it?

The title of the article is "Another Bad Wrinkle for McCaskill." The story goes on to tell how she failed to pay the tax on an airplane. Liberals have to bring Bush and others into it because there is NO defense for McCaskill not paying the tax. The story does not mention others not paying theirs. When it comes to taxes, democrats are always willing to raise them on others but fail to pay them at their convenience. When they get caught, liberals all rally to their defense by saying that republicans have failed to pay taxes too. My point is... SOOOO WHAT! How does that add to the fact that the person in the artlcle was caught? Since democrats represent raising taxes on everyone else, shouldn't they not be hypocrites and pay theirs? It seems that republicans get skewered when one of them commits a moral crime. Fair play is fair play....

Since you claim to be educated, it sure seems you like to overlook the obvious. Maybe it's all that education you possess. It gets in the way of common sense.

NonWatcher - And isn't it brianb that champions the importance of being clear about the comment to which a response is given? Poor brianb. This is all so confusing to him. Maybe we should let him go back to watching Faux Noise so he doesn't have to keep up with a real conversation.

brianb - If the atrticle is just about McCaskill, and you feel it is inappropriate to bring up others who don't pay their taxes, I will expect to see your response to bill at 1.2 or the others with similar comments. No response if they are right-wingers doing the same thing? I see. NonWatcher is right - you are a complete waste of time. Bye bye.

Any of the "Normal" left liberal posters will avoid this like the plague. You wont see them using their real blog names on this one. They know when to stay out of a blog thats never going to look good for them or the left.

Wow, everyone on the right thinks McCaskill should go to prison for what every other citizen would get a fine for, and everyone on the left fell for their spin job and hides from the true story. Come on people, this is a minor transgression if she (like Rangle) pays the taxes and fines. It is only a prison offense if she refuses to pay or if she committed some kind of fraud like putting her airplane in the freezer to hide it from the IRS. Yes, he was a Democrat, but it was a nicer jab than going after Tom Delay.

Let the voters decide. Remember, they still re-elected Rangle after he was censured by the house.

Educated Thinker - wind blows in, wind blows out.... but it's only wind, just the same. Very much like your comments. Personal attacks.... blaming others.... minimizing individuals... typical Alynski tactics. Totally uneffective. Can't argue the facts, so the fall back is Alynski.

I don't have to respond to 1.2. He's correct. Democrats have a long standing history of not paying their taxes, getting caught and suffering no harm from it. Democrats are the party of tax increases on the middle class and the rich so when they get caught not paying theirs, they expose their hypocracy. They lie about it at every turn. I know 1.23 went way over your head... I think you wasted your money on whatever education you have... I know, graduating kindergarden probably didn't cost very much so it probably wasn't a very large setback.

Wow, Thinker, you're really proud of that education, huh? It must something impressive. However, I'm betting you don't insult folks face to face with your arrogant f**king superior attitude like you do behind the safety of anonimity on this site .

Brianb

Watch out! Educated thinker is so much more educated than the rest of us it is just a waste of time to discuss matters with him. He is an attorney you know? I've asked before and never got a good answer, anybody ever heard of a good attorney?

One might have thought the there was enough hypocrisy in Washington, D.C. to go around the nation, but judging from the comments on the Vine, it appears that the leadership displayed by the Elected Leaders of our country has been extremely successful. Maybe that is why we hate them so much; we have become them in ourselves. If somebody in the opposition party messes up, boy, we need a criminal prosecution right fast! However, when it is somebody in our own party (or, preferred party) that messes up, it is all the fault of that "politically orientated lame-stream media!"

Maybe each of us should take responsibility for our own actions before we demand the same from others; that is "real" leadership.

JH - I know about the uneducated thinker. When he loses an argument he always falls back on insults and personal attacks. I've seen it many times before. A liebral (mispelling intended) can't change his spots.

I hate arrogance and most of the liebrals on First Read are so full of themselves, they can probably float on water. To mix it up with them, will always cause them to fall back on blaming others and pointing fingers... they do that and then run. They can't change truth and can't argue lies so they retreat.

I hope I don't have to stop reading the comments on First Read. Do we have to get into which poster is the stupidest, most intelligent, least educated, most educated, farthest left. farthest right, etc.? I am interested in hearing what people think about the content of the articles. What you think of each other, not so much. There are 32 comments in the first group. How many of them are about the article and how many about how lame someone else or their comments are? Please.

"You wont see them using their real blog names on this one."

JollyOldSoul- did your mom and dad get your name from the Boy's list of names book, or the one for girls? Were you lucky to not have to share it with other kids in the same class?? Bet you were.....

That was a typical leftist, commie, pinko, hippie, liberal, war-mongering, tax-avoiding, wife-cheating, male chauvenist pig, bra-burning, feminazi, rightist, Bush-loving, right wing crap, religious terrorist, EuroTrash, Haiti-shaking, McCarthy-Era kind of thing to say.

Listen to yourselves. You're all typical. And you sound like schoolyard children.

The political Repubocrat machine has succeeded. They've turned us against ourselves to deflect attention away from themselves again. You all keep thinking there's a difference between Dems & Repubs. You're all deluded.

There is no left, and there is no right on this one. Only wrong. Tax fraud is tax fraud. Lock her up with Wesley Snipes.

on a side note...this is one ugly broad...and she could stand to eat a f'n carrot once in awhile...hahahaha

Chris is on the money with this...its not a left vs right or repub vs dem, its another classic example of an elitest politician abusing our time and tax money for themselves and she got caught. Its washington fever. They are all bums.

Congratulations "Educated Thinker" Obama has finally met his match in the category of "Smugness."

Speaking of WAR CRIMES. Obama is committing them as I speak in the same vain as Adolph Hitler did in the Spanish Civil War. I think the Iranians have it wrong, America isn't the Great Satan, it's Barrack and Hillary who hold that honor.

Lynchmob

Its funny that the regulars aren't posting today and slapping each other on the back. I am surprised they ran such an article on clearly a liberal site. Just goes to show all of us that both parties lie to get elected and then once in office feel entitled to do whatever they want. Real good reason to have term limits. And I am so tired of hearing about how the democrats are for the common man. What a load of crap. You can put a democrat and a republican in a sack and shake it up and then when you pour them out ones just as likely to come out first as the other. Voters need to stop blindly following their chosen party and start voting to hold accountable those running for and/or in office. They SERVE us.

Perhaps because this is YESTERDAY's news? just a theory.

Her goose was already cooked; but this is not going to set well. I just saw a headline on a competitor sight that the GOP has their target set on her.

We know how THAT will end.

Unfortunate; but you live by the rhetoric and you metaphorically die by it, as well. It's too bad because she has been a great Senator. Very pragmatic and very common sense. Guess keeping the money separate was too much to expect.

As a woman, can we leave her wrinkles out of it? he he

Resign? No way - she clearly got her tax advice from Rangel.

Charlie's still around, no?

"Keeping money separate was too much to expect." Clara? you know how many common folk go to prison for that very offense? Care to guess the IRS' position when it's someone like you or I?

Clara you must be joking. She used to be an auditor and she forgot to pay her taxes, duh...... Missouri will be better off without those kinds of 'great' senators. This wasn't her first misstep and if they dig deep enough probably wouldn't be the only thing they uncover.

Its called tax fraud, normal people go to jail for this. I think she would look good in an orange jumpsuit

Al Capone went to jail for tax fraud. Most people pay back taxes and a fine.

Well, I am not trying to defend her - however this is a STATE tax issue, not a felony and she has since paid it.

I am guessing if we all had to deal with the number of assets her family has, it might be easy to miss a couple.

And yes, as a state auditor she definitely should have known better. By the way, her husband bought the plane.

When she was our Prosecuting Attorney her 1st husband was a drug addict,...should that have been her fault, too?

This is not an IRS tax problem, equating it as such is LYING. Stop it.

Clara,

I doubt if you can put a positive spin on this. Most people are going to look at this as another Congressional leader that attempted to hide assets. You and I would be in jail for this, and as for a Federal Tax issue, I would think that it is as well as a state tax issue. Plus, if you look at the required income statements members must file with government, her ommission can place her in a bad position with her peers.

But I also feel she should have the right to defend herself. File charges and have her prove her position.

Clara, Your response shows just what is wrong with this country. You say in your first sentence you are not trying to defend her and in the next two turn right around and try to do just that. I cannot abide by anyone who makes excuses or tries to justify a politician's bad behavior. This goes for both sides of the house.

Clara - She failed to pay the tax, period! If I fail to pay my electric bill, my lights go off. There really is no gray area here no matter how many assets I have. BTW, I'll bet she doesn't forget to pay her electric bill.

Why should she resign? No one else ever does.

Moral relativism has morphed into moral whatsamattayou-ism.

How many of you crying that she should have known better said the same thing when John McCain didn't even know how many houses he owns?

daryl - I remember... I had a good chuckle when McCain said it. Goes to show that to some people, they can't even keep track of what they own. Must be nice to be rich.

You can keep repeating the lie; but that doesn't make it true.

She failed to report an asset in her personal property inventory.

When it was discovered, the tax was paid. This is a STATE issue - not a felony. This isn't a DEFENSE, these are the FACTS.

Don't worry, McCaskill will pay. She will not get re-elected. But to continue the drum beat of Throw her in Jail, etc - well that is intellectually dishonest. She did not commit a CRIME. And she has since PAID the Tax.

I don't know what I have said that appears to be a positive spin. And I do not believe I have defended her other than she was ignorant in not following up on her own to make sure her asset listings were in order.

I love that Elliot Spitzer stepped down but David Vitter and John Ensign were entitled to keep their jobs after committing ALLEGED felonies. And it is also great to see the justice crowd has convicted her and sentenced her based on the flimsy details provided in this article.

And yes, it must be nice to be so wealthy you can't even keep track of what you own, or rent, or give away.

Well, she is a proven crook. Easy for her to get a cushy job in the Obama administration.

And, Clara, c'mon. Are you truly so naive as to believe she "forgot" to pay her property tax for YRARS? Are you really THAT naive?

Clara

"I am guessing if we all had to deal with the number of assets her family has"

so she is one of the "rich" (I thought only republicans were rich) that the libbies despise?...just wondering

"they can't even keep track of what they own. Must be nice to be rich."...hahaha

get a job or two and anyone can be "rich"

Clara KCMO - You are right according to Claire McCaskill it was an oversight and she paid it right away. Of course it was a 4 year oversight, as the tax was outstanding since 2007, and it was just a measly $300K.

If she can afford to have so many assets that she loses track of them, then she also has enough assets to pay someone to keep track of them for her. There's no excuse for this.

Our personal property tax form says right on it:

List your personal property (cars, boats, etc). My form from last year already had my cars and things listed, with a column for Still Own, Sold, Donated and then space to enter new acquisitions. I get that everybody needs this to be a big deal and there is no doubt it was wrong and should have caught; but you are all sounding pretty petty and spiteful. Was the tax owed? Yes. Was the tax paid? Yes. Was it FRAUD or ILLEGAL or NEFARIOUS? I just don't think so. Both spouse signatures are NOT required on this Personal Property Declaration form. So,...IT IS POSSIBLE that it is exactly as it appears.

Clara,

Personally it does not matter to me that she has since paid the fine. What does matter is that she is the chairperson on the Committee for Govt' waste and as such, it is her job going after people who did just what she did. Did she turn herself in or realize the mistake, No she waited until she got caught before she paid up. And she also accused her opponent in 2002 of doing what she did and won. Only fair that she resign. BTW all politicians who commit crimes should be forced to leave office, because they have broken their trust with the American people. That is just my opinion.

Richard, I agree with you and voted for you.

I have a dog in this fight. I like her. But it is a class A screw up. And yes, these types of things should equal resignation.

I just got pissy when people started wanting to throw her into prison. Come on now.

And while we are on the topic, perhaps we have the legislators that we have because those with tough (arrogant) hides are willing to run and the good folks choose to stay home? Our elections are a joke because our candidates are a joke.

I guess that is a discussion for another day.

The media loves a good scandal and doesn't discriminate by party. How did this one come out, anyway? Obviously, the media is not protecting McCaskill. Also witness Tom Daschle, John Edwards, and Bill Clinton. Not to mention Gary Hart, who dared the media to catch him at it, and they took him up on it.

So your claim that the media protect democrats while going after republicans is demonstrably false, even if you just look at this particular situation. But then again what else is new?

And what do you think about the republican state senator in Wisconsin, whose mistress got a cushy government job and a big raise, while he hasn't been living in his own district. I think we should invalidate any votes that were taken while he was ineligible to serve, and start over again after he is replaced. It might not change the outcome all by itself, but the recalls will probably do that.

See ya.

ITM: The operative word in your statement is "too." Good of you to admit that there might be a conservative/TP/GOP/extremist right wing abortion clinic bomber that could be unethical. now, could you convince the rest of the righties that they aren't perfect just because they know how to vote "R?"

Daryl:

What are you talking about? How did an abortion clinic bomber derive from my statements?

I was speaking of politicians. You read my remarks and took it waaaay out of the ballpark.

BTW: Dems aren't perfect because they know how to vote "D" either.

i hope not

John: No complaints about paying more at the pump when Bush was in office right?? Hypocrite!!

John M-2860409

McCaskill owns the plane. It's not a government plane. The problem is the taxes, and billing her senate office for the trips she took on it that were political, not just a part of her job.

The plane, a 2001 single-engine turbo-prop Pilatus PC-12, is hangared at Spirit of St. Louis Airport, McCaskill confirmed. But it’s owned by Timesaver LLC, a Delaware-based corporation created in July 2006 during her Senate run against Republican incumbent Jim Talent.

Many companies incorporate in Delaware because of its lax tax laws and business-friendly environment; the state doesn’t charge a personal property tax. But McCaskill was still on the hook in Missouri because the Show Me State requires aircraft owners to pay personal property taxes in the county where the plane is physically hangared.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51675.html#ixzz1HLsiWma1

I paid $4.00 a gallon, summer of 2008. Any idea who was president then?

if you can't afford to drive, park the piece of shyte...simple...take one of the taxpayer funded "high speed rails" that are out there...just because not one of them in the nation is "in the black" shouldn't keep you from sucking off the "environmental" nipple

vern and non - the point than, is that when Bush was president and gas prices got that high, the media was CRUCIFYING him over it, on a DAILY basis. Now that Obama is president, the president they helped get to office, there's nary a PEEP from those same news media outlets about the exact same gas price levels.

But than I guess neither of you see the problem with that.

You can have her in your state then. We don't think so highly of her.

between this one in MO, ND where the Dems barely have a party, WV where the Dem Senator gets on the floor of the Senate and criticizes 0bummer for not leading and in PA where 1 term Dem Casey is very unpopular and the only Dem left at a state level the Repubs almost have the Senate before it has even started. There are 23 total Dem seats up and only 10 Repubs. Can you say "shellacking" again??

She has not worked long and hard for me. She has done the exact opposite. During the HCR debate, she repeatedely stated she would not vote for the bill if it was not deficit neutral OR threatened to further increase health care costs for Missouri families. However, when I wrote to contact her regarding concerns over the HCR debate, especially concerning the double counting of the Medicare savings, recieved no reponse at all versus Roy Blunt who took the time out to call me regarding my letters. Her repsponse was loud enought, a vote in favor of HCR.

And now, charging tax payers money for a trip she should not have charged them for. Not paying personal property taxes in St. Louis county, all while I work my butt off to support my family and pay my taxes on time. She was an auditor in Missouri and cant' even make sure her taxes are done correctly! Get her out of office. She needs to resign!

W. Goin since they had the approval of a Democratic congress would you want to put them in jail too? Just asking.

W. Goin what war crimes? My understanding is that everything they did was legal and the appropriate congressional committee knew with the exception of Pelosi who was undergoing botox treatments at the time. BTW President Obama has kept most of the previous administrations policies including wiretapping, gitmo, etc and even has his own overflying and attacking with drones inside pakistan without Pakistani approval. That would be considered a war crime since we are not at war with pakistan but we are killing people inside their sovereign borders.

ahh, richard, and just above I thought you were going to be above the fray.

but no, you've got to go with the botox. As my grandma used to say,...(sic)"I now know what you are..."

and it is naive for you to think that the intel given to Congress was complete and factual. Entire studies have proven otherwise.

clara - much of the western world's governments were with Bush on this, so I guess you're smarter than all THEM too, huh?

Thanks, Fight Attendant - I will have to check that out. She's been a busy little corrupt bee.

Thanks for the tip about yet more union corruption. You wont read about it on leftlovin' MSNBC!

Another Senate seat locked in the GOP column....shall we go for 60?

Palin, Bachmann, Angle, O'Donnell. No lies there/snark

SUSANNE - are you from the "Two Wrongs Make A Right" party?

ha ha ha - the MSM is so locked into being 0bummer cheerleaders that they could never support the tea party. You have been smoking medical marijuana haven't you??