Businessman and television personality Donald Trump said that he will not run for the White House in 2012.
Real estate mogul Donald Trump will not be a candidate for president in 2012.
The New York businessman bounded onto the scene with explosive rhetoric, catering to the fringe "birther" movement, raising questions about President Obama's place of birth, as well as the president's record as a student. (For the record, Obama was born in Hawaii and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard and served as editor of the Harvard Law Review.)
When the president released his long-form birth certificate, Trump took a measure of credit.
Trump rocketed to near the top of national polls and even polled well in a few surveys in New Hampshire. But much of the air was taken out of any potential Trump campaign, when Obama derided him as a "carnival barker," and then (along with comedian Seth Myers) skewered Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
NBC News' Domenico Montanaro talks about the real estate mogul's decision not to be a GOP candidate for the White House in 2012.
"Donald Trump said that he was running for president as a Republican," Myers said. "That's funny, because I thought he was running as a joke."
That may be, but in the March NBC/WSJ poll, Trump was second only to Mitt Romney in the race for the GOP presidential nomination. He pulled in 17% of the vote, tied with Mike Huckabee. Romney led the field with 21%, Newt Gingrich got 11%, Sarah Palin 10%.
What is notable in all this is that the people who pulled in almost half -- 44% -- of support from Republicans in that poll won't likely be running. Huckabee said Saturday night he's out; Trump said so today; and Palin is thought to be unlikely to launch a bid.
That said, national polls don't mean much when it comes to presidential politics. Rudy Giuliani, for example, led in most national polls on the GOP side this time in 2007. They're just a small measure of the energy and buzz around a candidate.
This is the third time Trump flirted with a presidential bid -- once in 1987 and then in 2000. Trump contended in a 2000 George magazine piece, “I’m the only one who makes money when he runs.”
But his business interests were likely at the center of all this. "Celebrity Apprentice" was renewed for next season on NBC, and Trump had to decide if he was going to be back as its host or run for president.
It's not clear, however, what damage may have been done to his show or business interests because of the politics he played. His "birther" statements and his questioning of Obama's prowess in the classroom angered many African Americans. Before he went full bore on the "birther" issue, African Americans had a favorable opinion of Trump in the February NBC/WSJ poll.
Trump's ratings took a dive, according to The Atlantic's Joshua Green, and Groupon pulled its ads from "Celebrity Apprentice."
Of course, most observers never thought Trump would run, because of the requirement that candidates file a financial disclosure form.
Here's the full statement below. More to come.
For Immediate Release:
New York, New York: May 16, 2011
After considerable deliberation and reflection, I have decided not to pursue the office of the Presidency. This decision does not come easily or without regret; especially when my potential candidacy continues to be validated by ranking at the top of the Republican contenders in polls across the country. I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election. I have spent the past several months unofficially campaigning and recognize that running for public office cannot be done half heartedly. Ultimately, however, business is my greatest passion and I am not ready to leave the private sector.
I want to personally thank the millions of Americans who have joined the various Trump grassroots movements and written me letters and e-mails encouraging me to run. My gratitude for your faith and trust in me could never be expressed properly in words. So, I make you this promise: that I will continue to voice my opinions loudly and help to shape our politician's thoughts.
My ability to bring important economic and foreign policy issues to the forefront of the national dialogue is perhaps my greatest asset and one of the most valuable services I can provide to this country. I will continue to push our President and the country's policy makers to address the dire challenges arising from our unsustainable debt structure and increasing lack of global competitiveness. Issues, including getting tough on China and other countries that are methodically and systematically taking advantage of the United States, were seldom mentioned before I brought them to the forefront of the country's conversation.
They are now being debated vigorously. I will also continue to push for job creation, an initiative that should be this country's top priority and something that I know a lot about. I will not shy away from expressing the opinions that so many of you share yet don't have a medium through which to articulate.
I look forward to supporting the candidate who is the most qualified to help us tackle our country's most important issues and am hopeful that, when this person emerges, he or she will have the courage to take on the challenges of the Office and be the agent of change that this country so desperately needs.
Thank you and God Bless America!
Donald J. Trump
Michael Cohen
Executive Vice President and
Special Counsel To Donald J. Trump


I was actually starting to think he might of run, after all, that SUPER size ego of his requires daily feeding!
Something tells me, the financial disclosure might of been a tad embarrassing! lol
Didn't he promise something about revealing them WHEN President Obama produced his long form birth certificate? *tick tock*
Oh well, here I was SO looking forward to American's telling this jerk that he is FIRED! ;o)
PS: His race baiting was helping his cause either...
As the Stakes become clearer, the Circus leaves town!
President Barrack Hussein Obama!
Yes We Can!
His ego is like a delicate flower. He is a coward.
Not My President!!!!!!!!!!!
*correction* should read; wasn't! ooops!
Correct, Feisty. After The Donald made that snafu doubting President Obama's citizenship, and then backing up that doubt with The Donald's offer to release his tax information if and when President Obama released his long-form birth certificate, well, The Donald made a phoney promise he knew he would never keep. Not to mention the fact that The Donald has made more enemies over the past 30 days than he has made friends.
Congratulations to EVERYONE who predicted that The Donald would NOT really be running for POTUS.
He says he's sure he would've won the primary and general election. I actually wish he would've run so we could've seen his ass get whooped!!!! lol
No Huckleberry or Trump, woe is me ;-) Trump is a moron, not a fool. Or is it an idiot, not a fool. A moronic idiot, but not a fool....
I'll miss having him spanked by the pundits. All is not lost, there is Gingrich, Bachmann and Palin.
Not a big shock....and not like he hasn't the ego for it..BUT public disclosure of all his financial dealings, tax returns, divorce degree's, pre-nups, partnerships, particial partnerships, endorsements, limited partnerships, stocks, bonds, various bankrupsies, home values ALL put a blind trust....no way he would run..."I want to remain in the private sector", indeed, and besides, he's renegotiated his contract for Celebrity Apprentice....so what's the point anymore...and Obama hurt his feeling and ego at the Correspondance dinner...so back to Trump Enterprises!
Not much of a shocker, is it, folks?
As I wrote some time ago after one of his nutjob appearances, Trump was never serious about running. Instead, he was part of a very slimy strategy to try and push the fringes out farther, expand a base of voters who would never voted for President Obama, endorse the President's programs, or have a kind word to say about him.
Trump was simply a shrill shill for the right wing nut jobs.
He's going to continue to push his agenda, hey? He'll probably get more attention if he remembers his red clown nose and does something about the foul face he makes when speaking. When Trump starts to talk, he looks just like he's been dosed with vinegar.
Why would Trump want to be President? Its impossible to get anything done! Senate and Congress will for the most part be grid locked, other than using the Military your just a Talking Head that gets nothing done.
..and then there were three....the Mormon, the Misogynist and the Maniac...maybe Michelle.
I wrote a campaign song for Michelle B
"Michelle, ma belle,
You and Newt would go together well,
My Michelle."
Waddaya think?
Obama/Biden 2012
Guess Trump and Huckabee just didn't have that "fire in their belly" to run for office. I'll let you in on a secret...Neither does Mitch Daniels.
He likes people talking about him running. It flatters his ego. But he and the rest of the GOP/TP are running on empty.
I wonder if his republican support will suffer in his future business transactions.
I a have a TEA party supporter at my job that will not take kindly to this backtracking.
Bummer. I really wanted to see the politicos go ape over his "huge financials". LOL, oh well, Trump did his job correctly for the Establishment, now he gets to bow out for a while.
Looking back, I feel Trump was nothing more than a blatant mouth-piece for the hard-right wing. He was used to state the more politically-inflammatory things that polished politicians could not say for fear of public scrutiny.
Mission accomplished! The GOP gets to spout whatever obnoxious drivel they can muster to fire up the "base", and Trump gets a boost to his lagging reality-shows. Win-win situation for our Washington friends.
Phfffft..........good riddance, I say.
Kudo's to MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell, he called it at least 3 or 4 weeks ago. He said Trump would not run, would not give up his TV show, and was a con man and would announce on May 16th, that he would not run. It was a great con, and really had the rightie's knickers in a twist. They are so easily led, it is laughable, suck it up tea baggers, you were had!
that's a typical republicant, empty of real thoughts or solutions. a very shameless egotistical hairless being. all empty barrels who only believe in shared prosperity and not shared sacrifice....... jack wagons.
I think life outside the 'bubble' of syncophants was not looking very appealing anymore. (That and the fact I don't think he ever was going to run.)
So, now that the carnival barker has dropped out, who's going to take charge of the rest of the clowns?
Seriously.... time for NBC to drop him....
I guess "the Donald" could not take the heat. What an absolute failure, as a Republican, as a husband, as a businessman, and as a human being.
I hope Donald is READING this Newsvine....
He might get a clue what the public really feels about him.
This guy is nothing but an embarassment.
Good to see that this sham businessman and entertainer won't run.
Here is a thought. As the GOP politicians are out to work and enrich big business,I say NBC should try a new format for "The Apprentice."
Keep Donald as his normal belligerent, cocky, ego driven self. He would stay on as host, but switch it up by making the "Apprentice" seekers the GOP field. I would love to see Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Michelle Bachman, Santorum and maybe Palin vie for the supposed "kingmaker's" approval.
Apprentice Palin would imitate real life by starting the show then leaving to write a book. Ha, that would be funny to watch.
Who ever took Donald Trump to run for the Election in 2012 is gullible.
He had NO intentions of running, but to get Obama to finally show Americans his birth certificate of which he avoided doing, trying to expose O's weaknesses.. Those questions and others must be answered by all Presidents who are running, so the voter can really know what and who they are voting for.
Hopefully, all voters will do their research on every candidate before they make the decision. We don't need Presidents who play mind games with us. That is very childish and manipulative.
q
No Guts
No Glory....
So Trump: It didn't take the public long to "fire" you.
he IS however a candidate for Hair Club for Men or Growth or whatever will save the chinchilla.
I guess Larry O called this one, eh? Priceless! His ego can't take the criticism. And his brand can't take the tarnish.
Oh, PAA-LEEASE Donald, tell me this aint so! You mean it really was all a marketing gimmick to enhance the brand: The Trump Brand? Well you succeeded, and now it's best you steer clear of politics, you might just have your "Brand" tarnished, or look even MORE foolish, if you continued the charade much longer. Well the show was entertaining while you allowed the show to go on. Now its "ka-putt", the cats out of the bag, your hair still is a mess, and the checks in the mail, but your still free to stroke your enhanced and overstuffed ego. Life goes on one "BEAT-DOWN" at a time! Que se ra se ra!
Acually I'm disappointed hiz Trumpness quit. Just think of the possibilities of a Rep ticket: Trump & Bachmann or Trump & Palin or Trump & Newtness/Newtness & Trump. I can only hope the Repubs keep marching out candidates like Trump/Bachmann/Palin/Newt, etc, etc....
Sadigie - nah, I was actually hoping he would run! Because the show would have been REALLY interesting to watch.
Obama would have been able to beat the crap out of Trump and he knows it.
Where were those financial documents he promised to reveal once Obama brought out his long form BC?
Right.
What. A. Coward.
"I guess a lot of people are relieved because they thought The Donald would win over Obama?"
ROFLMAO! Thanks for the afternoon laugh. That malignant narcassist would've gotten trounced. I think (hope, really) that the american people are smarter than to have voted for that buffoon if he ran.
And to think some people actually thought this guy was going to run and got behind him. LOL
Anyone with an IQ over 30 knew that was never going to happen. If Trump only could have held a large rally at reactor 3 in Japan, we would have wiped out the bottom 1/3 of the gene pool and moved human life forward substantially. Donald, you moron...You're fired!!!
The typical loudmouthed bully with a tiny wee wee syndrome.
HAHAHA...dream on...
More like we are disappointed that its only going to be a 6 Ring circus now instead of 7. The Parade of Fools continues in the GOP primary process
Pass the popcorn. Seems nobody believes they can beat Obama and the Teatards are without a candidate (chuckle)...unless they get Bachman or Palin in there )oh god please do, we need more entertainment)
Ahhhhh but it was soooo much fun watching all of you Liberals go absolutely batshyt over him! LMAO......I told you all he wouldn't run. And its not his finances that were the issue. He has not had any personal bankruptcies. just corporate, which is a business tool all business people have at hand to use. At some point someone will rise up into the right position. Many people have not declared until the fall before election year. Plenty of room. What I do like is that Mr. Obama is rasing unprecedented amounts of cash, like he knows he is in for a long nasty battle to get reelected. He is not acting like a man that is sure of election!
No RImom......Im sure he isnt. But you can bet that all 300 Independents I sent the link to this blog too are reading all these wonderful comments written by the caring loving democrats on this blog. I am trying a new tack, I believe that Independents need to see what people on the liberals blogs say about people and how they say it! I have gotten some very surprising emails back. I figure if I do this correctly I can take thousands of People with I's next to their names into a new understanding. I know that I have always been an Independent voter and voted for both Mr. Carter and Mr. Clinton. My belief system says dont say evil, vile things to or about people. For some reason the left has this nasty vile streak in them.
I have a feeling he'll come back to the race. If not in 2012 then 2016. He's no quitter
What_the_81,
Yea, he'll be back the second Tuesday in the first week of August! That's one hot day, ya know!
Trump has a point. If you are not going to be doing something you really want to do or enjoy doing - don't do it. You will only do your very best when you do what you enjoy doing.
DB Akron,
Trump NEVER intended to run for the office of President of the United States. He did intend to get his name and face splashed across as many T.V.'s as possible, which he accomplished with a grade of A+! All this presidential charade was to enhance his brand which is the TRUMP Brand! He ALWAYS does his best--to enhance his brand (Trump) and massage his enormous ego! He is much better with this "game plan" than inspiring the Tea Pot Pals!
that's too bad he's not running. I was looking forward to pulling up a chair and watching this train wreck unfold. It would have been the perfect opportunity for the american public to see what this buffoon is really all about.
I wonder if the doomsday clock has been pushed back because of this.
Actually I like the Fox news network treating him like he's an authority on economic revival. How much $$ has he lost in real estate gambling investments? We need to get our troops home so Trump can send them to China for WWIII.
So...you're not as stupid as you made yourself out to be, Mr. Trump. You jackass.
so his yellow journalism failed the test. he got Trumped by President Obama a much smarter Person than the Donald ever thought to be.
mr.trump, you're fired!
Yes he is, because most intelligent thinking people were not holding their breath to see if he was going to run because they knew that he wouldn't.
I heard that kids are afraid of that thing growing on his head.
With good reason, I heard it BITES!
It would be a terrible way to lose a finger...
What a disappointment! Another clown hits the ground. At this rate, the republican nomination race will go to "None of the above" who will coast to a landslide of mythic proportions. Trump's thick skin, tough guy image has been revealed to show he just a perspiration thin, whiny & wimpy sham. Good riddance!
So, let me get this straight ... when the advertisers for his show started withdrawing because of his political statements, Mr. Trump decided to pull out of the race?
Once again, money won out over his "concern" for his fellow Americans. No surprising with this fellow.
LOL!!! The big-mouthed BUFFOON finally figured out that he'd become even MORE of a mockery than he was before. Even members of his own PARTY viewed him as an embarrassing CLOWN!!!
(The GOP'ers are scared-to-DEATH of running against Barack Obama because they KNOW they can't win!!)
I was really curious who he would tap for V.P.???
Gary Busey or Meatloaf???
For all of the psudo-humor here, the joke is on the liberals! Trump never intended on running but he sure did rile all you up! How many other people do you know that could force the president's hand in anything? Obama bowed to Trump when he produced his birth certificate. That was funny!
Why would Obama produce it otherwise? It didn't seem to bother Obama that a huge portion of the population questioned the origin of his birth... but Trump made him show it. No matter how you spin it, score one - Trump... score zero - Obama.
If a flawed man such as Trump could garner that much political support, imagine the dark horse that no one is expecting to emerge trounce on Obama. I know the liberals will be screaming and yelling their perverbial emotional brains out, but it won't help Obama one bit.
It's a long way to election day... Trump, with his flaws, has shown that a really good candidate can take the wind out of Obama's sails.
::pulling up my chair waiting to watch the show::
Trump out trumped odumbo and the rest of the gullible people. he was just promoting his reality show and it worked. I am sure he will be happier being a producer than a non producer like odumbo.
Who would have thought? Riiiighhhhttttt~!
I bet you no one in their right mind thought this douche bag was running for anything... he just wanted to get ratings for his show... but in being soo class-less not only dragged down the tea-party, but destroyed his reputation... thereby tanking his already failing show.
You sir are the apprentice in Politics.. and YOU R FIRED~@!@@@@@ jejejejeje
he will produce jobs and stimulate the economy, there are your jobs feisty
He got NBC to pick up his show for another season. His plan worked brilliantly.
Trump make his point and won. Obama show his birth certificated and end with all this stupid thing about birthers. Obama lose one weapon to attack their Republican enemies with more racist slur, since this issue won't be part of his campaign.
Yea, it will be a "DARK HORSE" Someone that will bring darkness to the United States with all the Republican choices out there, they are all idiots, liars, cheaters, sick with alheimzer (Newt)!!!!
You're about as Funny as Trump is BrianB.
President Obama called him a Carnival Barker, No reply from Trump.
President Obama dressed Trump down at the WH Correspondents Dinner(along with Seth Myers) & he sat thier Red Faced, knowing he could Only Sit & Take It or Getup & Leave, either way, Trump was mage a Fool of.
The next day, President Obama interupts Trumps TV show to announce that Binladen has been Killed.
In 4 days time President Obama treated Trump like the Bully that he thought he was, he Cutem up & Shutem Up!
Thats what ya do to Bully's with a Microphone & a MSM enamored with Entertainment TV disguised as Politics.
You Betcha!
Birdman2010: Had Trump decided to run for the presidency, a perfect running mate for him would have been Rod Blagojevich — finished as a viable Democratic candidate of any kind, always champing at the bit for publicity and recognition of any kind, no sense of ethics or morality of any kind. A kindred spirit. Someone Trump can truly understand.
The most amusing statement of all was when Donald Trump said he was certain if he had run, he would "win the primary and the general election."
LOL
Mr. Trump, only in your dreams.
Folks:
and people think Ron Paul is crazy....look at this ridiculous cluster of knuckleheads, and what's nuttier is look at their polling numbers....WTF is going on in Dumboland, the pachyderms are runnin' wild!
Brianb-999431
For all of the psudo-humor here, the joke is on the liberals! Trump never intended on running but he sure did rile all you up! How many other people do you know that could force the president's hand in anything? Obama bowed to Trump when he produced his birth certificate. That was funny!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Umm brianb
If your overarching strategy is to rile up Dems by being a jackass, well then, yes - boy do WE have egg on OUR faces!
I truly admire your commitment to pretzel logic. I can't wait to see the next candidate your team trots out. No doubt they will have SUCH a love for this country that marrying their cousin or favorite pet will have been the ULTIMATE act of Patriotism.
If you think President Obama's hand was forced, you really just ARE that simple. Good luck with that nose ring - cuz' you are sure the one being LED.
Too bad for the country.......now someone else will have to throw that empty suited failure and his hand picked morons out of the White House so that America can succeed again.
What was TRULY funny was how President Obama sucked the air out of Mr Trump's campaign, as well as all the other boneheaded fools pushing the "birther" lies. As proof I say ummm , how much is the "birther" theory being talked about now? Or even any of the other crackpot theories and lies that the "birther"s have come up with since "birtherism" crashed and burned? Practically none, except to show what fools they appear to be. Releasing the birth certificate isnt about who made President Obama release it - its about the fact the the birther crap is just that - a steaming pile of crap. Releasing the birth certificate fully allowed Mr Trump to appear as the complete and utter moron that he is, not to say that Mr Trump wasnt doing a bang up job of it himself (“I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.” or Mr Trumps racist lies and innuendo about President Obama getting into Hardvard on some sort of a race quote. Donald Trump is a liar and he cynicall used the election process for his own personal gain when he had no intention of running at any time - and that should be a crime. Calling Mr Trump flawed is the understatement of the election season so far - he's now a laughingstock.
Just goes to show that you can't buy your way out of stupid. The more power and money you have (Trump) and the more you throw it around (Trump) the stupider you can be and still survive (Trump). He gained another next season but lost any respectability he had left.
"peeler" I agree with you! It was both funny, and FUN to watch Barack Obama TRUMP "The Donald." The problem with people like Trump is that they're not bright enough to have a sense of humor, and they're dumb enough to believe their own hype. His type DO make for mucho comedic relief however, and Barack Obama, bright and witty man that he is used Trump to his FULL ADVANTAGE.
Now Donald can go back to what he does best: his medicine side show that involves overpriced, tacky real estate, and his snarky TV show that stars B list "celebrities."
Obama bowed to Trump. Was that before or after he called him a carnival barker?
Tim Pawlenty is the man for President in 2012. In his two terms as governor of Minnesota, he "has used innovative and conservative leadership to balance the state’s budget, cut spending, reform health care and improve schools without raising taxes. Under his leadership, Minnesota has nation-leading health care, the highest school test scores, and a leading economy." We now need him to do the same for the country. Our current "community organizer" President isn't getting it done, his budgeting skills are horrible and Obamacare is a travesty.
Brianb-999431:
Gee, Brian, did you notice how after his disastrous, profanity-laced speech in Las Vegas on April 29 and his public humiliation at the White House Correspondents Dinner on April 30, we didn't hear a word from The Donald? President Obama called him by his true name — just as the beautiful queen did to Rumpelstiltskin in the fairy tale — and just like Rumpelstiltskin, Trumpelstiltskin was so enraged that he tore himself in two and vanished into thin air!
The End
It amazes me how anyone can question President Obama's birthplace. We send folks to the moon surely that would have come out prior to him successfully winning.
What amazes me more is how blatant racists are allowed to disrespect our president. This includes trump, tea party, and the old geezer's that got us into this big mess. I applaud Mr. Obama for making politics transparent, getting rid of Osama, health care reform not perfect but better for the masses, saving our auto industry and making them accountable, stimulus for home buyers, better international relationships, and the list goes on.
trump, you are a fool. I realize now your success is luck not smarts. By the way do you have a degree? Hopefully your children are wiser and won't be judged by your behavior.
Meh. At least we saw Obama take some anger issues out of trump. But I wonder what was Trumps goal, IF he was president to take of the healthcare. That's the only reason I hate Obama.
Bryanb-999 You are so funny. Wait till this is over and you Repucks see all your possible canidates say that they are running and as soon as their see themselves in the headlights they bolt and hide. If there is a Repuke canidates it will be a total IDIOT such Baulkman, Angle, Palin or Newt -- BTW I had a Newt one time but it only lasted a few days; it jumped out of it's home and died from lack of water.
Yes, we had a fun time watching and listening to The Donald being. . well, The Donald. But TRUST ME, NO ONE believed he was going to run for POTUS. If you read the article, it plainly states Donald Just Got Trumped "considered" gunning for the position in two prior election years. Trump's poll numbers, at least prior to his public self-inflicted beat down, were high because he spoke the language of vitriol & hate that the fringe bigots so dearly love, not to mention giving the folks at Faux News "new and improved talking points." Of course he was going to appeal to others who are just like him, with the exception of his morals or lack thereof, I would hope. All in all, I would say the entertainment factor was pretty darn good, and I do believe the Bulgarian judge gave it a 10! Now, back to work you go, Mr. Grump! Oh, and YOU'RE FIRED! I'm waiting with baited breath to see which Republican, Conservative and/or Tea Party Clown they test-float next. Watch closely, people. This is gonna be a GOOD one!
It was fun while it lasted. Ok, republicans bring in your next sacrificial lamb, because that was just too darned easy. Now all Trump has to do is live down all the idiotic statements he made. Remember, 'the evil that men do lives after them....'
God Bless you Mr. Trump, You've brought unanswered questions and thought to the American public. Why is it noone has ever heard or knows the name Obama at the universities he's attended.
Please continue to push for an audit of the Federal Reserve, this was suppose to happen in early 2000, still no audit, then do away with it, especially after what they find. Please encourage all Americans to watch "The Fall of the Republic ", a real eye opener for everyone.
Your supporter and friend, keep on fighting!!!!!
Pamela, I guess you weren't paying attention to the news stories that told of how T-rump was an Obama supporter in '08.
I don't suppose the public laughter will die down until Gingrich drops out of the race, too.
Ahhhh the sweet sweet libs have spoken. I'll give you that Obama ridiculed Trump at the correspondence dinner. How presidential of him. More like a revengeful, hatefilled president that was forced to do something that no one else could make him do. If you feel that tactic is a good one then I'll bet you enjoy pulling tails off of cats too.
I never believed Trump was going to run for president. The libs took off after him like rats after a piece of food. I have to admit it has been extremely humorous watching the libs foam their hatred against anyone that might present a challenge to the liberal god Obama. The liberals have become a cesspool of hatred. Funny, I never hear the liberals explain where Obama is taking care of the national debt... oooops... sorry... I think I just poured water all over table.
Since you liberals just LOVE Obama to death, it might be a similar experience when the economy crashes under the $14 Trillion load we carry. 45% of that debt was added by Obama himself. I guess that's why liberals are so touchy about Obama. They try to defend him while knowing that they might be standing in long long food lines in the near future. Love him or hate him... Obama is the most financially irresponsible president this country has ever known. 45% of the national debt belongs to him. Do the math... if you don't know how.. I'll spell it out for you:
Debt at Obama Start: $10 Trillion
Debt Obama added: $4.5 Trillion
4.5/10 = 45%
If you argue that the numbers should be $14 Trillion and $4.5 Trillion then the amount he added was 32% - I don't care how you argue it... Obama is IRRESPONSIBLE! And... you will suffer when it collapses. This is only after 2 1/2 years.... wait until we reach 4 years...
IF we reach 4 years.
So what happened? Did he get his notice that Celebrity Apprentice had been renewed. Lawrence O'Donnell has been saying this for weeks now and he pretty much nailed the date that Trump would announce this too. I'll be watching The Last Word tonight so I can hear Larry's last word about this publicity-seeking, lying, egomaniac.
Say it isn't so, Donnie! America needs you and Sarah Palin on the ticket.....what we gonna do now?
You blew us off for a television show? That just ain't right, Donnie!!!!!
Will you, at least, talk the Republican Party into getting Sarah Palin on the ticket?
Thanks, Donnie....we still love ya!!!
Marco, you are a retard!
Jacq, I can't wait to see Lawrence gloat! Should be a good rant.
So does mean his stunt worked are more people going to watch his show? I think it back fired, and as I've said Marlee Matlyn let it slip at his Comedy Central Roast for Donald Trump(another ego boosting simi self deprecating stunt) that she won three months ago. How can the man possibly compete with a Desperate House Wife and all of Sally kids. ABC still has him by his down lows...........
Lawrence O'Donnell deserves an Emmy for his show. His predictions for Huckabee and Trump were spot on.
Last Word Rocks!
Unlike Morning Joe which spends most of it's 3 hours trying figure out ways to portray President Obama as an idiot.
Lawrence O’Donnell has also predicted that Tim Pawlenty will rise to the top of the heap because the other candidates are so flawed. That prediction did not include Mitch Daniels, but his entry would not change things in my book. Poor thing, his wife divorced him for three years because he was so boring.
Sorry Republicans, Mitch is not the Answer.
With Trump out, let’s bring on Bachmann or Palin.
T-Paw is about as exciting as watching paint dry! lol
So, what happened?
Nothing that has not happened before.
This is not Trump's first rodeo-he has "played" the I-just-might- run-for-president card before. The difference this time was the amount of media attention given him.
See, in the past, he was pretty much ignored. Not now.
Ah, well, I imagine that we will be inundated with news of every Palin sneeze, or Bachmann cough, until the GOP has a candidate. Then, they will pump those two as VP candidates, until there is an actual candidate.
Too bad they do not do the same for Kucinich. He is just as nuts, just as unqualified- but, alas, he is a democrat, as is Obama, so his ego gets to starve.
All I can say is THANK YOU DONALD!! You not running is the single most patriotic thing I have seen you ever do. Now, hopefully we can get down to looking at people who can actually do the job as president.
And now a plug for my personal candidate of choice. Mitt Romney is still the man. Now that distractor candidates are falling away (Trump and Huckabee) Mitt is the only logical choice. I would just ask that people do a little homework, ignore the rhetoric from his former apponents and just really listen to what he is saying. If you don't agree with his take on things thats fine but please stop bashing the man becasue of his religion or how clean cut he is. This country needs someone to turn this economy around and we need him now.
my gut feeling says that Romney might be among the more moderate of the republicans however, he knows how hard right he'll have to veer to get thru the primaries. He's already lying through his teeth about the Mass healthcare initiative and why he would not support it nationally. He's just kowtowing to his corporate whore money masters, just like all the rest of the Republican candidates. Except maybe the Tea Baggers - and they'll realize soon enough that, if they dont get in line for the corporate Republican Money Teat, that they'll be left behind....
Peeler: your comment is reflective if what a lot of people are saying so I don't fault you for saying it, but Romney is NOT lying. If anything he is being incredibly honest. That is why I'm begging people to listen to what he is saying. The biggest difference between Romney care and Obama care is the level at which it was run, State vs. Federal. It is a huge difference. I have already blogged about this at length on other threads. If all Romney cared about was getting the far right vote he would have disavowed his health care plan as a huge mistake and moved on. But he won't. I hope people are smart enough to ask the question; Why won't he just disavow it? And then do enough research to answer their own question.
Darn. I for one was hoping we'd learn what that disgusting thing is on Trump's head when it came to full disclosure. Oh, well. I can live happily enough without that knowledge.
Fiesty, I'm getting damned tired of seeing your posts collapsed! It's UNAMERICAN and against free speech. Where's the outrage from the constitution hugging Tea Party? Hello?
I don't suppose the public laughter will die down until Gingrich has dropped out of the race, too. After that, the Repubs will parade out a few attractive, but unheard-of-before, candidates just to mix things up a bit. All the while, Mitt Romney will be carefully hovering in the background and snag the GOP prize just before the final bell rings. Unfortunately for Gov. Romney, his chances of winning the presidential election will be thwarted by his Mormon beliefs which will promptly be rejected by the fundamentalist and mainstream Christians, a big chunk of the vote.
Like I said before. He's a loudmouthed bully with tiny wee wee syndrome.
He too did not want to lose to a black man. But mostly he does not want is business to be looked into. He knows he is doing a lot of thing wrong. I still think that needs to be looked into. He does not feel bad about lying or destroying others for his own gain. A very bad person and that is why the GOP likes to back him. So sad isn't it.
Thanks michelle!
What these numb nuts fail to realize is, when they collapse someone, readers automatically open it to see WHY it was collapsed!
Not too brightest crayons in the box are they? lol
PS: I hope you keep on posting, I LOVE what you have to say! ;o)
I don't normally find myself agreeing with Feisty, but I fail to understand why her comment #1 was collapsed. Nothing inflammatory in her post, just an observation on her part. Kinda getting tired of seeing posts collapsed just bacause you don't agree. How else to we get to the truth?
And you're right, the first thing I did was uncollapse it and read.
Ye Gods MarcothePolo
Not the soccer mom.
Where in the hell did you come from? China?
I was hoping Trump would run. At least I would have some one to vote for again. Last guy I voted for was Ross Parot. Close to Trump in success. Made his money off government programs. Knew what the real story was. Talked the same story. If he went about it right Trump could get the working people on his side by clamping on job stealing imports. HOWEVER the Half breed Kenyan would pull out his race card and the bleeding hearts would blindly fall in line like goslings following their mama to water. Just as Hillery about the race card. She got hammered by it.
Thanks, Fiesty, I love what you have to say too! Cheers from the Ocala Nat'l. Forest, in sunny Florida!
After calling NeNe a quitter for walking off his show, Trump then quits his campaign run for President..... Hmmmm....LOL
Seta
We know where you come from! Still feeling bad about losing the Civil War? And those uppty Blacks need to be put in their place?! Your Pathetic!
Seta - half breed Kenyan? What an ignorant pathetic comment to make. He is as American as you - maybe more so. As far as half-breed - what are you 100 years old? That stupidity is so beyond intelligence. I can't believe anyone today would make such a stupid remark.
RHINO - nope - Mitt Romney's healthcare is just like President Obama's plan. Mitt isn't anything new and certainly is no one people can trust.
Sounds like Fiesty & Michelle need to get a room & get it over with!
As a painter I am offended by Feisty's remark. I love watching paint dry.
W.Goin: Question- why exactly can't you trust him? If you are going to throw out an accusation like that you should really have something to back it up.
Fact- State run and federal run programs are not the same.
1. The Obama plan is a federal monstrosity without cost controls and heavy with red tape. Romney's plan amounted to less than 1% of the states budget and can be easily changed if there are aspects to it the states don't like, without federal involvement.
2. Romneys plan was chosen by and for the people of their own state. Obama's plan is forced upon all of us whether we like him or not. This means people in Texas are having their health care decisions made for them by, well, every other state.
3. A state run program can be run on a budget. Nobody has any idea what the federal program will cost. In a time of 1.4 Trillion dollar deficits, that's a big problem.
Bottom line, Romneys plan was imperfect but it was managable and it can be tweaked and fine tuned by the very people the plan effects. You cannot say the same about a federal plan. No matter who the president is.
Everyone can make fun of Trump here but I am sure he accomplished the goals he had in mind with this. He never planned on running for POTUS but what do you call free advertising? Publicity! Just the fact that you are all talking about him and his show and his business says it all.
I wouldn't have voted for Trump, if he stayed in, but admire him for his courage! So far he's the only one out there that isn't afraid of being attacked by the libbie media, nor is he afraid of being called a racist for merely telling the truth and asking honest questions of Obama!
There are several good candidates out there that could run rings around Obama and I'm sure we haven't heard the last from Trump, even as a non-candidate!
O'Donnell wasn't the first nor the only one in the media to predict Trump would pull out folks....
Just to refresh your memory...
The president roasted the Donald and we haven't heard anything but "I'm not running for president" since.
He tucked his tail between his legs and went back into his dog house.
Lawrence O'Donnell called this one too. He is a very smart guy.
Yep, Lawrence O'Donnell kept saying this from day one of Trumps announcement to run.
All the Donald wanted was ratings, but he made the GOP look REALLY BAD , and they aren't likely to recover, especially with what they have left.
OBAMA/BIDIN 2012
Yes, LO did call this one correctly, but didn't he also insist that the Newt would also stay on the sidelines? If so, LO is only batting .500. Still pretty good...
Justme, Newt still has plenty of time to rake in some cash, and still withdraw, which I think he will. He too, is toast.
When the world doesn't end Saturday, Lo will have the Last Word.....And an very emproved batting average
Actually I expect Newt will be encouraged as he is likely to soar in the pools this week. Why? He is the 'flavor of the month' and two others (Trumper and Huckathumper) are not in it.
Simple math and timing. With less competition he can pick up some. This will make him feel like he has a chance...of course he doesn't.
Reps love the flavor of the month--Last Month it was Trumper, this Month it is Newt, Next Month...another ..ah well
I posted the fact that Trump was merely being a media whore and Newt will not be running either.
Trump was overcome by his Gypsy dna. Too many scams yet to be perpetrated.
That's extremely racist, Mr Forrester. Are you aware of that?
Now there is no one. No hope
Now there is no one. No hope
Not a big surprise - I don't think he was the "one" anyhow. Obama, has got to be breathing a little easier. Trump IS one tough cookie.
Oh, I'm sure that Trump was Obama's single biggest worry, DB.
Especially given the events of the past couple of week.
LMAO! Trump got schooled and has scarcely made a peep since!
I see you scare easily DB!
Akron: one tough cookie? Not at all, just the opposite. An egomaniacle clown who likes to play the game. The Donald embarrassed the heck out of himself when he came out on the side of the psychos with that birth certificate crap and then lied and said he would release his tax information.
I don't think we have to worry about The Donald running for any public office, that is, not until he releases that tax information he promised.
Trump is not one tough cookie. He is a bully. If you have ever confronted a bully in your past you might have have learned one truth about all bullies. They use bullying as a shield against their own delicate underbelly. Invariably, if you see through their tough facade, you can make them crumble. They quickly turn into a coward. Obama ridiculed Trump and what has been Trump's response. He has cowared. That was totally predictable.
Oh please -- like Obama ever worried about a Trump run!! He has more pressing issues to deal with than this flop mop clown. Trump opens his guppy lips and out pops his giant ego -- he's a fool to think America would stoop so low. Ditto Gingrich, Guilianni, Bachman, Palin and the entire Republican presidential lineup of sad hopefuls.
I will, however, miss the fun his run would have created entertainment-wise.
Tough cookie no way, stale cookie at best.
"tough cookie"s do not flirt with national politics that get all wounded at the first tough questions to come their way. He folded like a house of cards. Are you watching Michelle Bachman? You're not going to be able to stay in your bubble of adoring fans if you announce.
DB in Akron - joking, right???? Trump never made Obama even blink. Trump is nothing but a moron who appeals to other morons - just like Newt. The GOP is looking really bad about now - no wait - the GOP has looked bad for years!
trump got trumped at his own game. stick a fork in him hes done. next!
Obama handed Trump his A55 at the Washington Correspondents in a way that left 'the donald' mortally wounded politically. Words count, and Obama was busy killing Osama bin Laden and still had the sharp, witty skill to skewer 'the donald', like a sardine on a toothpick.. . with the same smell and greasy look.
Hey Trump, you got PUNKED by a pro.
Oh yeah, I'm quite sure President Obama was really worried about the possibility of facing the so-called "Donald" in the general election. What a joke! Obama didn't even flinch! Obama/Biden re-election in 2012!!
Trump is not a tough cookie, he is more of a Store Brand Cracker. Tacky and very common.
In NYC he has not had a successful development in years. He toyed with the Empire State Building and fell on his face. Trump Soho is a disaster with more lawsuits over false statements made by developers, He lost his tiny percentage in the West Side Yards when the partners sold it and did not even consult him. In FT Lauderdale his towers went Bankrupt and the buyers have not received back their deposits which are supposed to be in escrow by law., In Las Vegas he has Ghost Towers, He lost all ownership in the Atlantic City Casinos. He is all 'show & blow' and no substance.
The big time real estate developer and businessman got his head handed to him by an inexperienced community organizer.
I sincerely doubt that President Obama lost any sleep over the possible candidacy of Mr. Trump. He may have initially polled well among some Republicans, but I don't think that most people thought that he could win the general election, even though Mr. Trump was very "proud of himself."
Hey liberals.... Trump NEVER intended to run. Sure is funny that I've known this all along. I guess Trump fooled you... now who looks bad? See, emotionalism never beats logic. It wasn't logical for Trump to become president. He has zero political experience when it comes to Washington. That should have been the first tell to you. The second tell was his expression. Third tell was siding with the birthers. I guess you all missed these things that were smacking of him not running.
I guess some liberals are easily fooled. Speaks volumes about their choices.
Brianb - Most liberals, in fact, most people, knew that he would not run and recognized his ridiculous comments for what they were. My concern was that he was vicously smearing President Obama's character for a publicity stunt. That is truly despicable.
You speak of his expression. In my opinion, his always wore a smug expression. However, that was not telling, in itself.
You speak of his support for the birthers. Well, there is still a signicant percentage of people who still believe the President Obama is not a natural-born citizen; he was pandering to those people.
I don't what his motivation was, especially as he advocated for univeral health care and taxing the wealthy just a few years ago. Self-promotion? I don't know. But, you are correct'; he certainly caused a stir among the media.
Brianb your posts are so stupid! Do you really think you can twist T-rump's birther rants around and make it look like liberals were fooled? You have to have your head up your a**!!! Sorry, but the rest of us don't fall for Jedi mind tricks.
He did not fool liberals, he ran as a republican.
BrianB... funny thing.. seems he polled quite well amongst the Repulicans.... something like over 50% ?? As you stated.. speaks VOLUMES about their choices as well.... they're willing to put a Carnival Barker, (What a perfect analogy!) in the White House JUST to get a black man out! Again.. speaks VOLUMES!
@Brianb-999431(YOUR A MORON!!) Liberals didn't get riled up cause they thought he was running for President there riled because they think he's a racist.(Birther issue) Also the road kill on the top of his head has them a little riled up too.
TB, I think Pres. Obama was just about afraid of Trump, as a knat.
Trump was ripped in his face during the press dinner, and wiggled down like a dog kick in the face. What a nerve! Did he have the nerve to say something back to OBAMA, only far away as possible. P.U.S.S.Y
altoonz2 - was that a racist remark?
Donald couldn't run because he was born in Indonesia!
Mary, I'll respond to your statement because it has the most meat on it.
Do I think liberals are that stupid? Well, I do. I have reasons for why I believe that. Just look at the posts by the liberals on this board. 99.9% of them are calling Donald Trump rediculous names. They are expressing their pent up hatred for anyone that would challenge the liberal god Obama.
Just look at the stupidity that is being written down. It's a feeding frenzy of lunacy. Most of the remarks are extremely childish as if children are behind the keyboards. I make a point that Trump did something that nobody else could - force Obama's hand into producing his birth certificate and everyone comes unglued. Well did Trump cause Obama to come up with his birth certificate or not? The answer has to be a resounding yes. Now if that offends liberals, then too bad.
What offends me is the $4.5 trillion dollars Obama has added to the national debt. He is responsible for adding 45% to it. Obama is historical, for sure. The president that has spent the most money in history. What say you Mary?
Brian, Trump may have forced the production of the birth certificate, but is it a valid one? If you look at it, there is an obvious error on it, that would appear to have been written in 2011, but not in 1961. Look at the race listed for his father on the certificate. It is wrong.
Bush was actually the highest spender. Obama was just spent more his first year than any other president did their first year.
Not taking sides, just saying.
schi - sorry but you are wrong. Obama has added $4.5 Trillion to the national debt in 2 1/2 years. It was $10 trillion when he took office. Today we reached the debt ceiling of $14.5 Trillion. The money Bush spent on the wars was in the $10 trillion.
Bob - its anyone's guess if it's real or not. Forgeries are made all the time. I have a problem with the number on it.
Brianb,
You don't get it. Trump was putty in Obama's hands. Obama baited him and Donald fell into the President's hands. It was way too easy. You have it switched around. Did you not see how Obama toyed with Trump, bringing forth of the sacred birth certificate, complimenting him on his fake business cahones, then making a fool of him? It was a beautiful thing to watch. Bring on your next victim. It's pretty hot in this kitchen. Trump couldn't take the heat. He's going to run every four years for the publicity because the one thing he can't stand is being ignored.
Brian B: I don't judge any one persuasion by comment boards on a website, and I can assure you democrats weren't afraid of Donald Trump. I, like many, was hoping he was serious purely for comic relief. Would have been the best election yet. Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Bachmann are not now and never were relevant contenders. Period.
You, on the other hand, come across pretty narrow minded and illogical in your posts. It was summed up above. You are rambling on about "libs" being fooled by Trump, but he polled well amongst REPUBLICANS as a Presidential contender. Spin that one dude.
Jack Colton - I have been contending on these boards that Trump wasn't ever going to make the decision to jump into the ring. I've been saying it for weeks. I am also saying that Gingrich, Romney and Pawlenty will never make it to the top either. I knew weeks ago that Huckabee wouldn't run. I have been saying all along that any republican that throws his hat into the ring is really dumb. With the economy the way it is, it won't be long before it comes crashing down on top of us. I'd much rather have Obama take the fall for it than anyone else.
I don't have to spin anything. I'm not a republican. But... watching the liberals on these boards go after anyone that challenges, or even presents a challenge to the Obama god, creates a furvor of foam spitting liberals. I get more entertainment value out of watching liberals do the attack dog thing on anyone that even crosses that line. Liberals have presented themselves as nasty, angry little children. For that purpose, Trump did make liberals look like fools. Pure entertainment.
BrianB - No one is or was afraid of Donald Trump. And, he didn't make President Obama do anything. Obama just waited until Trump looked like the total fool he is to re-release his birth certificate. And, you should read your own post. President Obama has NOT added the most to the national deficit. Why do you GOPers think you can just make things up and people will believe you. Oh, that's right - that's what Republicans do! And, if anyone has presented themselves as nasty, pitiful little children it is the far right. They have called our President every nasty name in the book and reviled him from day one. Pathetic little creatures! That totally fits Republicans!
One down, two female jokers left to go! It's going to be very embarrassing at the convention with everyone there, sitting on their hands, with no one to nominate. They had better start looking for someone who could do the job. I can think of a few but the GOP seems to favor dumster diving.
Brianb-999431
I agree with you! What has happen to common sense, intelligence, and just a basic understanding of the problems that all of us as Americans must face. We need to take a good hard look at what is happening to our nation....it is not good.
In addition what has happen to conversations or communications that have substance in them with facts and documented proof.? What I hear on these post are very one-sided, non-factual comments; with the intent to belittle, destroy others with their ugly comments.
Trump may not be a good choice for president but he has managed to make himself an icon, and a very rich one at that.
What not address the real issues that we face here in America?
1. ALL PRESIDENTS must be held accountable for the condition of the economy..period! and frankly we must ask the question, is our economy better or worse? Has the financial strength of our country improved under Obama's watch? or sadly has it gotten worse?
2. What is he doing about unemployment? Still not much better after all these months in office.
3. What about the real estate market? Our homes have lost 30 to 50 percent of their values. New construction is still at an all-time low.
4. What is he doing about the high cost of gas? Is there an end to the rising cost?
5. With the richest natural resources, why are we not growing our own food here in America? Why are we depending on imports of poor quality?
7. What about job creation? What has this administration done to stop the decline in jobs in America?
8. Why do we continue to give billions to terrorist countries when millions of Americans are suffering from so many natural disasters?
9. Why do we allow our government to continue to steal funds from the millions of Americans that paid into social security and will get nothing in return?
Just so you liberals know this, not that many Republicans are rich, most of us are just average people who have worked our entire life just to make a living for our family. And, wasn't it your president that continued to do the corporate bail outs like GE, banks, etc. Isn't that helping the rich at the expense of the poor? And, take a look at Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, wasn't it under the leadership of Barney Franks a democrat that voted to free up lending to even those who couldn't repay their loans....thus starting the failure of so many banks. So let's give credit where credit is due.
BrianB
Everything about the "Lib attack dogs" you just did yourself. Filthy hypocrite. All you can do is talk sh*t towards democrats...All the false hate towards obama.
No matter who the president was black white etc he could be the greatest president in History and you would still find something...because he's a democrat.
schi - So what is it to you? It's not the democrats that I have a problem with. I have a problem with liberals. I don't care that Obama is a democrat... I do care that he is a progressive liberal and he's following his agenda to a tee. Obama is very successful at pushing his programs and his agenda items. If anything he deserves credit for getting what he wants done.
It's what he's done that I can't stand. He spent a whole year on Obamacare while the reported unemployment rate was teetering on 10%. He has many options to improve gasoline prices but he wants it at or near $5.00 per gallon... watch and see if it doesn't get there under his administration. Obama is an ideologue and he has a plan to change this country.... but the change is against our constitution and the people of this land. You just don't see it for what it is because you don't have a constitutional background and you were never taught civics in high school. I dare say you don't even know the responsibilities of the president. You see him doing things you think are correct, but they are totally wrong.
I wish Obama was the other way. I'd support him and you'd hate him.
Brianb - "Do I think liberals are that stupid? Well, I do. I have reasons for why I believe that. Just look at the posts by the liberals on this board. 99.9% of them are calling Donald Trump rediculous names. They are expressing their pent up hatred for anyone that would challenge the liberal god Obama."
Well, I agree with you that many posters on these vines call people ridiculous names. In fact, every time I peruse these vines, I see a new name for President Obama - Obozo, Obummer, Odumbo, Obami, Obamimammy, etc. However, many posters call President Bush "Dubya,", "W," and "Shrub." All of these names are disrespectful.
Also, I am a conservative Democrat and have no use for the far right or the far left. However, I don't take issue with anyone who challenges the "liberal God Obama," as you refer to him. I take issue with someone who I feel is using the presidential election as a publicity stunt and in doing so, attempts to smear President Obama's character. That is much different than challenging him.
BrianB: Mary pretty much summed up what I was going to reply, Trump was not someone who challenged President Obama. That's like saying Democrats don't like Sarah Palin because they are "afraid of her." Donald Trump was being skewered by both sides, and for very very very very good reason. He's about as credible in business as Gloria Allred is as an attorney. 80% showmanship, 20% substance. Just read that it may come out in court that more than 5 "Trump" properties are just other people's buildings with a licensing agreement.
I'm not getting into a point-by-point debate on partisan policy as I'm not trying to change anyone's political views on a comment board, but I will say that my biggest issue with Republicans, particularly Congressional Republicans, is that they are by far the worse of the two evils when it comes to selling policy and legislation for campaign contributions. Democrats do it too, but Republicans have a much longer and more devastating track record of stripping away consumer safeguards and sensible government oversight in the name of "free market / deregulation." Aka: Letting their donors get away with murder at our expense, and then making their supporters think its in their best interest. No thanks.
I still like all the banks and financial institutions that were "too big to fail," yet how much were they held responsible for wiping trillions of dollars from American's retirement funds? How many safeguards have been put in place in the time since? Wall Street should have been turned upside down and inside out after September 2008. Failure on Obama's part, definite failure by Congress.
I know it's real late and this probably won't get read, but, just in case someone goes back to it tomorrow... Jack and Mary - I do agree that Trump was using the opportunity for showmanship. I just love bugging the heck out of liberals. See how many of them attacked me after my comments? What I said was technically right, but the defense of Obama was incredible. You gotta admit that Obama was placed in a quandry about the birth certificate. To me that was more than amusing. I could say a lot about why, but since it's late I'll save it in case this vine continues through tomorrow.
For as much as the disrespect of the president... I don't disrespect the office at all. I do disrespect the current occupant of that office because his liberal agenda is taking us in a direction that will be extremely hard to reverse.
Jack - I agree with your assessment of republicans. They don't handle things well, especially when they have the power. They capitulate too much and water down their core values to their detrement. It's hard to trust them because their track record stinks. They are the lesser of two evils in my mind although I wish it weren't that way at all.
I am an independent, a former republican. I simply couldn't stand their lack of a backbone when confronted by democrats. Democrats are good at what they do... it's just too bad the democrats don't share in fiscal responsibility and toning down the progressives in their party. To me, democrats aren't healthy for this country. They have liberal values and to me that is the greatest evil in this land.
Mary,
I don't agree with you about calling former President Bush "W" as being derogatory. I mean he printed bumper stickers and campaigned on it. At what point does that make it FAIR GAME?
I agree with your over arching point and theme. The only slang abbreviation I use is Repubs. Which to me isn't derogatory, either; but some may feel otherwise.
Unless I am outright calling someone an idiot for repeating garbage they 'read' somewhere (but more likely heard from Rush and then perpetuated, ad nauseum, to drive a narrative for someone else - I'm looking at nojonobonj on this one) I TRY to be a fair broker. Try being the operative word.
Some days are better than others.
BrianB- You certainly hold yourself in high regard but you are the only one. Democrats are not at all what you make them out to be. (I am an Independent but clearly have done my homework instead of making things up - which you seem to do.) The Democratic party is not lacking in fiscal responsibility. However, it is implausible to just reverse 8 years of bad government and that is what you are expecting President Obama to do. I'm sure the fact that you disrespect the President would bother him - NOT. Disrespecting someone who is working to help this country recover from the worst President in history is not something I would brag about. However, you seem to want to brag about everything. Your civic classes - which amazingly most of us took - you just didn't bother to learn from them.
What an arrogant individual you are. I'm guessing you like Newt Gingrich - another arrogant, I'm above it all, individual.
You and your post are a joke. You label all people in a particular party as liberals - and you clearly don't even understand what a liberal is. Maybe it would benefit you to go back to school and this time, try to learn something. Doubt that is going to happen.
If Democrats are bad for the country, Republicans are totally evil. They want to intrude on everyone's life and tell them what they can and can't do. They want to have less government - except for the government they want (try to figure that one out). They want to spend, spend, spend, but only on wars and THEIR programs. They have no fiscal responsibility but want to claim they do. Pathetic. And, you don't like Democrats?
BrianB - I don't if President Obama was in a quandry regarding his birth certificate. He had already proved his natural-born citizenship status with the release of the legal document in 2008 proving his birth in Hawaii. While I cannot presume to know what was going on in his mind, maybe he never planned to release the long-form, as it was unnecessary, but when the media covered this non-stop after Mr. Trump started making the ridiculous accusations, he thought it best to release it to try to stop the nonsense. However, the timing of the release was perfect so as to make Mr. Trump look ridiculous. He release it shortly before the OBL killing; this coupled with the release of the birth certificate and Mr. Trump's refusal to release his financial records, as he said he would, truly made Mr. Trump look like an idiot.
I disagree with you about President Obama's liberal agenda, and I suppose that we could argue about that forever. As a conservative Democrat, I don't view President Obama as a liberal. True, he has increased the deficit significantly, however, that was due, in part, to stimulate the economy. (Most economists, from my research, agree that government spending is necessary to stimulate the economy during a recession.) It was also due, in part, to his producing a more honest budget than some previous administrations, including the costs of wars, etc. Additionally, this deficit problem has been growing and festering for a long time, much longer than President Obama and President Bush have occupied the White House. It is impossible to immediately reverse this trend.
Again, we could argue as to whether his policies succeeded. Many factors indicate that the economy is improving. However, unemployment remains high. I'm beginning to believe that unemployment is high, and will remain high, because while many large businesses are making record profits, they are not hiring because they have trimmed wasteful spending and possibly redundant jobs, and technology has replaced some jobs, as well. I don't think that unemployment will decrease until businesses start using these profits to expand into newer fields.
Finally, I agree that the liberals immediately attacked your comment with name-calling. Again, that seems to be the norm, from both sides, on these vines. However, I appreciate your discussing this with me in a non-confrontational manner.
Clara - I agree with your post. "W" is probably not derogatory, such as "Dubya" and "Shrub." I guess that I don't understand why people address the POTUS or any other elected official with names other than their title and name. I didn't think much of President Bush as a president, but I always referred to him as President Bush.
And, as you, I attempt not to call anyone on these vines by a derogatory name.
Two words ...publicity stunt.
BINGO!
Corianne....that was perfect! LMAO.
Yeah, it's pretty simple and all these people are debating about this birth record thing and that Obama got him. He used everyone just like he always has since I first heard of him over 25 years ago. He does it to get to get publicity. Mission acomplished.
I'm no fan of The Donald, and I'm certainly no fan of the Republican/Conservative/Tea Party maroons, but a thought, be it every so brief, did cross my mind: What if The Donald was actually working for the Obama side of the aisle? What if he took advantage of an opportunity to, theoretically, enhance his presence & programming viewership/ratings while helping lay the platform for Obama to unveil his long-form birth certificate in such grand fashion? Has anyone else given this concept a thought or two? It seems plausible to me, and would go a long way towards explaining why he allowed himself to be full on skewered at the WCD by Obama and Seth Meyers. On the other hand, his show lost a sponsor or two and he does look like a big buffoon. On second thought, I can't get behind my own fleeting thought. The Donald's ego is just too fragile for him to take such risks with exposing it to further bruising. Oh well, at least I tried to think outside The Donald's Fox!
Donald Trump has WAY too big of an ego to "allow" himself to be skewered. And...if that were true, he would have been able to laugh at himself. No...The Donald thought he could just win the presidency on his name and the popularity of his reality show, then found out that outside his little circle of "yes men", his name has become a joke and his show is only watched for the train wreck value.
Carianne, I agree with you as to the issue of Trumped's ego, but I cannot agree that Trumped was EVER serious about a run for POTUS in 2012. He simply used this opportunity to capture a self-serving, self-promotion opportunity and, for awhile, it worked or at least the so called "polls" said so. I don't believe in poll accuracy and I don't believe Trumped was even remotely serious about running for POTUS. The man is a walking conflict of interest and a full on joke. His ego is so fragile that even a psychiatrist would conclude Trumped himself has his moments of self-doubt. Oh well, it was fun to watch the Trumped Train wreck. . .now, back to our regular programming.
"So, I make you this promise: that I will continue to voice my opinions loudly and help to shape our politician's thoughts."
Whew, I am relieved! I thought he was going to desert us!
Cautiously, We WISH he would desert us. We have enough baffoons running around politics without adding one more loud mouth insult comic to bunch.
He won't desert us, but his loudly voiced opinions will begin to fall upon deaf ears in the media. Maybe NBC mentions him seriously from time to time when they need to sell some advertising spots for his tv show, that's about it. Remember how we used to hear about everything Sarah Palin said, and now we don't? That will be the Donald, categorized in the irrelevant section.
Did you know that the Donald currently endorses a video phone? Seriously, like an actual chunky office phone-sized piece of plastic with a little 3" video screen? Yeah, you make "video phone calls" on it, and the person on the other end (who has to have the same hardware) talks to you and you can see them! Trump says in the future there will be one in every house. Uh, Donald, there's a kind of device that's already in just about every house, it's called a computer. There's software called Skype, Windows Live, iChat, and many others, that are available for free. Then people take this little camera that's either pre-installed on their laptop or they buy one for $30 and they talk to people while being able to see them on their computer screen. But Trump says everyone will have a $250 piece of plastic and pay $40/month for the same thing! And this is supposed to be one of the best business minds in the world!? What a clown!
With Trump out, I do hope Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman run. The field just got a little less entertaining with Trump gone and someone needs to step up and provide the hilarious pandering to morons that he did so well.
Hey, he'll keep giving Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert new material. How bad can that be?
I know, right? The Donald has provided us with a lot of laughs over the past couple months. I hate to see him go. Thanks for the good time, Donald! Let's laugh a S.P. now, she's almost as funny as the Donald.
Really? Seriously?
Thanks for exposing the Trumpster for what he is - a caveman.
My 6 year old nephew knows how to use Skype; he'd be happy to teach the old guy with the bird's nest on his head.
"So, I make you this promise: that I will continue to voice my opinions loudly and help to shape our politician's thoughts" to be used for free advertising in the form of publicity stunt. Thank you, thank you very much.
Hey Seriously--My kids I-Pod does that!!
I grew up in a time that I was told that be the year 2000 we would all be traveling by hovercraft and each have a JET blaster back pack, and phones that let you see who is on the other end.
OK-1 for 3. But really -- I wanted a JET PACK!!!!
BethanyB, hehe, yep, I grew up in the same time. We all thought we'd be living like The Jetsons come year 2000!
This makes me madder than the series finales of Sopranos and LOST. Should have milked it another month or two for our entertainment. And if we get stuck with Palin or Bachmann as our comedic contenders, ratings are going to go down.
Conservative/baggers say they can run Mickey Mouse against Obama and win...
Think you better get him "locked in" before he refuses to run .....
Uh, I think your side is the one that promotes "baggers". Only your side could support something so strongly and then try to pin that label on someone else. Go screw up some more school kids with your we're here and we're qu..,.agenda.
vet, the Internet is a great place to find answers. Tea Baggers are their own creation, "to include "a conservative activist who is so ignorant that they protest against tax cuts (that benefit them) by throwing tea into a river."
"Only now, the protesters and their organizers are fighting a battle on two fronts: not only against what they see as a government gone wild with giveaways; but ridicule for the double meaning of "tea bagging."
http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&id=89676&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=
Are you another tea-bagger venting? or is it vetting?
vet
you seem to be the "expert on baggers"....nuf said.
btw - I choose to use the term "baggers" as it was a tag they themselves felt pretty proud of when they assigned the tag to themselves...it's a respect thing!
I heard their first choice was "tea wads"...
vet: You can abandon the attitudes you developed about homosexuals on the 7th grade playground. There is a cure for your condition.
vet-2159305 says: "Go screw up some more school kids with your we're here and we're qu..,.agenda."
Wow, vet, you might as well have put a racist comment in there to show us all how much of bigot you really are. I don't know if you were just trying to stir the pot or actually make a point, but for you, I guess ignorance is bliss.
Mickey Mouse is a Democrat, he has been working hard for over 70 years and exists to help others. No way he is a Republican
Haha, frankly. Yeah, I can see Trump's take on Mickey Mouse: "Mickey is a socialist. Just look at his work. Everyone that comes to Disneyland has fun, and all are entitled to everything the Magic Kingdom has to offer. It comes at a huge price and it's bankrupting the people! Atlantic City on the other hand, now that's America. Everyone can come and play. There will be a few winners and bunch of losers. And if you lose everything, don't worry, we'll give you a minimum wage job so you can get back on your feet and live the American Dream."
Trump may be out, but we can all make fun of "vet" now. His post makes no sense and he's a biggot! Ha ha ha! You suck Vet!
Mickey lives in dream land, like the all the bleeding heart DEMs, but he does have Minnie, not Denny, so he may be a REP, Yea?
dontgivemethepenguin, see comments aimed at vet. They apply to you as well.
I don't label myself as Democrat or Repubican, but I must say, if you even remotely think Sarah Palin is a good leader for your party it's you that live in a dream land.
We don't need minimum wage. In fact, in some cases, the employees should be paying the employers. Michelle Bachmann says so.
don'tgiveme
I think Mickey is a repub.....I heard he's been doing "goofy"....he only keeps Minnie around as his "beard"!
who said anything about Palin?
Oh yea, I am a registered DEM in the Sunshine State.
I didn't know you were being sarcastically facetious, penguin. If you were? If so, my fault on the political affiliation assumptions.
Still never gonna buy anything sold on the Apprentice.. or anything remotely related to the Trumps. Thanks Donny for revealing yourself to be the true idiot you are.
This is a good day for America.
no its a GREAT day for Everyone America and elsewhere.
Maybe, Sarah is still lurking out there.
I honestly don't think the GOP want the White House in 2012. If they did, they'd come up with a better bunch than the current Clown Posse. Maybe they actually think the Mayans are right....
flbikerchick, you know, I was thinking the same thing. And then I thought "that's not the GOP we know and love". That GOP can convince itself of anything, whether it's true or not. In all seriousness, though, I think quite a few potential candidates that have opted out knew they couldn't win, period. We'll see what happens, but I think Obama is going to do quite well in the election, and I think the GOP knows this. They'll continue to say he won't, as to try to convince people with their usual tactics. But the "strong" candidates don't want to be the sacrificial lambs for the GOP in 2012.
Yep. We'll see the serious candidates in 2016. Well, more like 2014, but you know what I mean. Gotta love that extended campaign season!
I think we owe a thank you to NBC (and a much bigger thanks to FOX) for giving paychecks to these Republican/TB stooges. With their cash flow assured, so few of these lemmings have any interest in actually running for office. They can get money for just throwing red meat to the fools that follow these shallow, meaningless news/entertainment programs. While I doubt that FOX realized it was reducing the likelihood of these fools becoming candidates, this is a prime example of unexpected consequences. And a big kiss and hug from me.
He can still be VP though, ya don't have to run for that
Do you really think he would take second place? His EGO is so big it wouldn't let him do that.
You're right, he'd probably rather save himself for '16
@Doug. He would have to file financial and tax reports. He would have to disclose the reason he filed bankruptcy 4 times etc. He would still have to file a disclosure of all business related investments and put his holdings into a blind trust. No way he is going to divulge any of that information, because he has too many enemies and skeletons in his closet. He will continue his antics, because after a brief surge in viewers, the show has nosedived again. This clown loves the fool he sees in the mirror.
Yes I agree. I was just kidding. Trump was too, I guess :D
One idiot Birther down; 50% of GOP to go!
Most members of the GOP are not birthers. Obama has plenty of other issues to address besides his birthplace. I wish Trump would have run, I don't think he would win, but it would have made the election more interesting. He did make a good point regarding the way our government spends money it doesn't have.
Guess you missed the polls of the last few months showing over 50% of self-identified Republicans still question whether the President is an American. This is why the party is becoming irrelevant and finding only baffoons willing to run.
Not one GOP candidate came out and said the birther nonsense should stop. They let it ride because they thought they could get mileage out of it, so whatever repercussions they suffer they deserve. I dont know how a person as uninformed as Trump is, could make an election more interesting. The economy and the deficit from the last administration requires more than political talk to resolve the problems we now face. The GOP wants to balance the economy on the backs of the middleclass, seniors and poor. They bring nothing to the table that involves jobs, healthcare, and economic growth. How you think Trump would add something interesting to this conversation is beyond me.
Diamond 60 - Many people from both sides make good points about the out-of-control spending in Washington. However, many of them make their points with good arguments rather than the bluster and lies spouted by Mr. Trump.
Diamond60--The government has ALWAYS spent money it doesnt have. ALWAYS!!!! It has always had a deficit, (oops--CLINTON years) . The last president we had decided that it was way easier to fool the public by not including the cost of the two wars he got us into in the deficit. Now that President Obama has decided not to continue the "fuzzy math" practices of BUSH, our deficit went through the roof. So-now the REP/CON/TPers (whatever they are) can now claim that the increase in debt is ALL Obama's fault. Again with the fuzzy math--but, that is how they operate.
It was stated on Nov 3/08 that Mitch McConnell and his minions were going to make sure that Obama was a one term president. He and his co-horts have now brought this country and world to the brink of global financial ruin for one reason only. The POWER that the REP/CON/TPers are so obsessed with is in the hands of a BLACK man. And that makes them ALL crazy. This country and the world has witnessed this these last two years.
While some think that a TRUMP run would have made for some interesting debate--it would have made this country's governmental system a laughing stock in the world. Obama's WH just managed to kill the most hated man on earth, Obama's WH has re-invigorated the worlds view of USA. Obama's WH has done something that no president has ever done-tackle health care. Now -- I am not entirely happy with the result -(I prefer single - payor myself. Get rid of the billions of profit made off the health or lack of people)- it is a start, and can be open to discussion with reasonable folks.
Now if only the REP/CON/TPers had any of those.....
Trump is an ego manaic. But he did speak of a one time tax on the big rich to reduce the deficit. He also spoke of high tarrifs and trying to bring back jobs.
There are many things that would help like forcing our public owned corporations to pay our minimum wages wherever they go. Regulating the income gap, putting labor representatives on corporate boards and raising the capital gains tax would be a start.. Unfortunately, both parties have givenup even trying to bring back jobs. In fact they have helped the pigs to outsource.
Banks, wall street and big corporations love slave labor, they own our government and they are destroying America. There can be no economic recovery without real change and that means bringing back good paying jobs and controlling the very pigs that own our government.
Ah, another "I could win the whole thing, but I'm not running."
Tough weekend for the GzeroP.
JC from IA...
Gotta agree.
I read his statement and I can only say that he either has an ego the size of Texas or he's delusional or both. You had to believe that the Donald was smart enough to know that his outrageous comments on the birther issue and the killing of OBL were political Hari-Kari. Also, I really didn't think he wanted his financial dealings exposed to public scrutiny. Maybe he found out that even his "black friends" will never vote for him. He is PT Barnum incarnate.
he does know how to promote himself but he is promoting to the wrong people dumb asses like himself.
LOL...anyone who has a slight understanding of what Trump's goal will ALWAYS be would have realized from the start that he was never really attempting to run. He's a media &#$e with a brand name he wants to ensure stays within the limelight. He may or may not really believe what he stated to the public regarding Barack Obama's birth certificate and college transcripts; however, his name is currently of premier relevance, which obviously will promote his brand (at least for the time being).
What I find to be even more interesting is the support he managed to drum up from the republican voting base just by simply relying on race to question the authenticity of Barack Obama's credentials. If you notice he always seemed to avoid discussing anything of substance related to rectifying the current state of the economy. Yet, he received a significant amount of support. Why is that? (That's a rhetorical question, at least in my head...but feel free to answer it)
Thank God. Now go away Trump!!!
His statement could be shortened to: "I'm cutting my losses short" and "The first step to get out of a hole is to stop digging."
The hole is now a crater. He's been slow to recognize it.
The Repulicans have got the sorriest bunch of candidates,
Totally!
The one you have in office is better? LBJ was a better president and he sucked!!!
no they are a sorry bunch.if only some of them could tell the truth now instead of the overload of lie's
Mike....so true! I am embarrassed to say that I am a registered republican. I voted dem in the last election, and I probably will in the next one. Republican party has NO one to put on the ticket. And, if Donald Trump ran and won "I was going to leave the country"...lol
Diamond: Even a Republican called this "the weakest field of Republicans to run for president since Wendell Wilke" this morning. A weak President doesn't cause the other side to field a team like that. No one is buying that argument.
Diamond60 - considering what he walked into President Obama is anything but weak. Would I like for him to do some things differently - yes. But he is a far cry bette than Bush was or than anything the GOP has running.
Even the weakest of Republicans can take out this so called president. Trump was just bring light to the surface on issiues dodge by the obama and is tired of being taxed like the rest of us republicans. If you stupid liberals would get off your ass's and work for a living instead of collecting hand outs from your president, you would know how it feels. Chris Christie will run and win with ease.... GOP!
Want to bet?
Well since all the GOP candidates are weak, then maybe you can dig up Reagan's corpse and trot him out to Iowa?. Or maybe Goldwater (more in keeping with the GOP these days)
Seriously, you conservatives don't have squat for 2012
Obama/Biden 2012
Aintchomoney - I love how all the idiotic Republicans love to pretend those of us who aren't Republican don't work. I work two jobs and can definitely run circles around most of the sorry Republicans who post. Christie has his own skeletons and probably won't run. If you didn't hate so much you'd realize we have a very good President who has make great strides even though the dumb far right has opposed him on every thing he has done. And, get off your high horse. I probably pay more taxes than you.
Aintchomoney - Now, now your going bust a hemorrhoid in your brain. Then you'll have to collect welfare, but then of course, if a Repug should ever again win the Presidency in your lifetime it will serve you right to thrown under the bus. But of course, you must be sooo rich because you have to pay taxes. Need a little cheese with that whine?
Thank goodness, I was afraid we would be forced to endure seeing that horrible hair cut for months! Wonder with all his money he cann't find a good barber?
Today is a better day now that I have heard that Trump is not running.
Like this is a big surprise. Anything to boost his own ratings. Always a showman.
Yes JoAnn-O'Donnell had it right on the money...he must have said that the Donald isn't running at least a dozen times on his show....just baiting him over and over. Hilarious!! Personally, I would have enjoyed watching Trump sweat as he faces debate after debate...what a loser !!
Joe - I agree. I would have loved to see Donald Trump debate anyone from either party. I cannot think of anyone who would not reduce him to the pile of b.s. that he continually spews.
Joe - Donald Trump debate???? What a joke. I'd actually like to see him on "are you smarter than a fifth grader." Pretty sure he'd get his a** kicked!
Shocked! America is in denial! No, Don, tell us it isn't so. You jerk.
I don't like him. I don't like that I'm even commenting about him. I don't like that he is so manipulative and yet I fall for it by commenting about The Run that was never going to happen in the first place. I feel used and so now I'm going to go take a shower.
LOL
If he ran, the world would know he isn't worth close to what he claims he is... and that is the most important thing to Trump. So obviously he was noit going to run.
So true...real the Trump wiki page, 1/2 the buildings with his name on them are not even owned by him, he leases his name!
The Donalds feelings were hurt when the President ridiculed him. He couldn't possibly deal with the stress of all the scrutiny he would get in a campaign.
Amen to that, and Obama took just as many jokes at his expense as Trump did at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
He just realized he didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning and we all know how he hates losing :-)
Now you can just go away Trump, "Your Not Hired" LOL.
this guy is the most expensive joke, just seeking more publicity, he will never be presidente of the united states, is just rediculous to think he will be president.
It would have been interesting to see what all would have been disclosed about Trump in the scrutiny of a presidential election. I am sure he chickened out.
What are you refering to, all the disclosures about Barack Obama when he ran. Oooops, he didnt disclose anything.
He disclosed that he was not a radical right wing cracked teapot nutcase and that he was not backed by the "religious wrong" the catholic church and their pediophile priests and Pope a Dope King, and that he would not let Creationism be taught in public schools along with other biblical fantasies.
Divr - President Obama disclosed everything - just like McCain. Pathetic post!
Hamm1 wow, you have everyone categerized, don't you? Your brain sounds like some kind of a war game. You are right W. Goin -pathetic post.