Well hey Amy, we agree.

See the guy will never win, but he will almost certainly interject more fun arguments into the debate. Paul is about as opposite of a big spender like Obama as you can get.

Isn't it oddAmy how all these groups [Tea Party] and people [boehner, Cantor, and Paul] that you hate are directing the narrative? Have you ever asked yourself why that is?

Amy, do you think Obama blew it by devoting his first two years, during which he had all the numbers and political capital in his favor, on health care? I get you love the whole health care bill [and pay no mind to the fact that it is anything but free - someone has to pay] but that decision led to the festering of this whole jobs/taxes/economic downturn. After all you believe that the government can actually do something about jobs, right?

So Amy, tell us all why Obama ignored jobs for all this time, and is just now getting in the game.

Amy? Come on, the phone are not ringing right now, you got the time. Enlighten me.

Come on, Spanky, you get YOUR facts straight. You Repugs threw a fit, screamed, and made complete fools of yourselves over the auto bailout, and yet now the auto industry is profitable again and is prone to began adding jobs. You Repugs said the stimulus was the end of the world and yet it kept millions of people from unemployment. Under the last Repug President we lost millions of jobs and under President Obama we have added jobs. Unemployment is about a point down from what it was when your guy, W, was in office. The reason that things aren't great right now is because you Repugs spend eight year ruining this nation with your dumb wars, unregulated banking industry, reckless tax cuts, etc. Things are getting better, but it will take a will for President Obama and us Democrats to clean up the mess that you and your Repugs made, Spanky. Come on, Spanky, get a clue.

Spanky,

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last decade or so, you would recognize that health care costs are out of control and I applaud President Obama for trying to tackle the problem. Obama really blew it, though, when he pandered to the right and diluted out real health care reform that would have strengthened our health care system. Mr. Obama should have used all of his capital and shoved a public option down the right's throat.

Vince: You Repugs threw a fit, screamed, and made complete fools of yourselves over the auto bailout, and yet now the auto industry is profitable again.

The auto industry was profitable before the bailout. Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes were doing just fine, and all are built in the US with American workers. Only GM (and Chrysler, now Fiat) were going under. If they (GM and Chrysler) had went through bankruptcy, like all other mismanaged and failing companies do, they have would reorganized, and re-entered the auto making market. They would have lost market share to their competitors, but that's what happens to mismanaged companies. The demand for cars/trucks never changed, the other automakers would have made up for any slack. Instead though a poor business model was maintained at GM by the government bailout. It's only a matter of time before they lose out again.

Please JoAnna, don't lecture me on the success of a political party. I'll take trying to fix something but coming up short as opposed to saying "no" to everything. Being against everything isn't really a strategy except for cowards - you can't be wrong if you don't try.

Spanky, you are right that Obama wasted his time with HCR but it was only for a year not two (2009 -2010). My opinion is that if he wanted to spend that much time to get it done it should have had a public option at the very least.

Concerning jobs, he didn't ignore jobs. He figured that the stimulus would be sufficient to address jobs by the way nearly a 1/3 of that was tax cuts. It had mixed results obviously, however, it did stem the flow of job losses. Jobs are being created although at a slow pace. The Dems have also tried to pass small business tax rebates to spur hiring - rejected by the GOP. The economy despite being bad is not terrible and is improving. My attempt at being truthful.

However, be truthful would the GOP have gone along with more Obama economic policies if he had not addressed HCR? Has not the entire GOP plan been to hamper any and all things Obama? Another question. Do you think that the country can magically recover should one of your conservative pres. candidates win?

This Debt ceiling impasse with possible economic disaster looming and no reasonable compromise coming from the right proves to me that we are in big trouble.

Jay Leno, David Letterman, Steven Colbert, and John Stewart will miss you. The rest of America just says Ron Paul, is that the pocket fisherman guy ?

Jimsepa - and just how many republican votes were needed to pass the multifaceted obamacare?

Vince - a few things about the auto bailout...

Why didn't ford participate?

Why did GM and chrysler stll file bankruptcy? Restructuring was just as possible under court protection as in a government bailout.

With declining auto sales (all makers) all suppliers still took a hit.

After the fact evidence is hardly conclusive enough to praise or villify the bailouts.

JoAnnaSmith1..

The auto industry was profitable before the bailout. Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes were doing just fine, and all are built in the US with American workers. Only GM (and Chrysler, now Fiat) were going under.

Really, what you posted was a fact? Sorry...not so.

First, foreign car makers were not eligible for bailout funds. Take them off your list cause it's just not true.

Second, Ford did not take the bailout money but were in the same position as GM. Take them off your list cause it's just not true.

As to the health of the foreign car makers:

The Japanese auto industry may not be immune from the forces reshaping the auto industry after all. Three of Japan's largest automakers are expected to approach the Japanese government asking for financial assistance as soon as today. That was March 4, 2009.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/090304-Toyota-Honda-Mazda-May-Ask-for-Government-Bailout/

You really need to stop posting falsehoods, it just diminishes your credibility.

Only GM (and Chrysler, now Fiat) were going under. If they (GM and Chrysler) had went through bankruptcy, like all other mismanaged and failing companies do, they have would reorganized, and re-entered the auto making market. They would have lost market share to their competitors, but that's what happens to mismanaged companies. The demand for cars/trucks never changed, the other automakers would have made up for any slack. Instead though a poor business model was maintained at GM by the government bailout. It's only a matter of time before they lose out again.

Ordinarily you might be correct on this assumption but General Motors did reorganize and cut the fat. Most of their top management is gone and they've gotten huge concessions from the unions. Your premise is sound JoAnne. It is just not what happened at GM.

@JoAnnaSmith1,

Obama likes to spend! is that your theme? Because it's right out of the playbook of republican talking heads. If you can remember he came in to one of the worst situations in history and it may have been even worse than the great depression if we ever get out of the hole that Bush created.

Did I hear you say what did Bush created? Well two unpaid wars and medicare part D and the bank biggest bailout in history. By the way we still don't know who actually got the money.

If you hold Obama's feet to the fire I will hold Bush's feet to it as well. During Bush years the debt limit was raised 7 count them 7 times. Now everyone wants to be a fiscal conservative with a memory gap the size of the black hole.

Did we need the stimulus yes any economist will tell you yes other wise if you did nothing we would have been in the second greatest depression in history.

Even if Obama agreed to never spend another dime. You would say no we should spend something.

So no matter what position he takes everyone that hates him will have the opposite view.

As long as he is President he can do no right. And that's only because some idealistic group as brain washed you to look in one direction. It's ok to look at all views, facts, opinions before you set you mind in stone.

But of course me trying to reason with you is just like telling the republican not to drive the United State credit into default.

Now that i understand you view point in politics i will be repelling all idiot thought in this blog.

Ira - are you saying the cited car companies were not profitable?

And just why wasn't Ford in the position? And why reward failure? You know what happens when you do - you get GM.

GM is currently failing. Inventories through the roof, just like in 2008. Ira, how much they going to throw at it this time?

Why not Ron Paul? If you truly are a conservative there is nothing not to like about him.

• No Foreign Wars
• Veto's of Wasteful Spending
• Strict Constitutionalist
• No Free Money for Wall Street

Spanky-

Am I saying they were not profitable....ummmm yeah.

Ford was, read my post. They opted not to take Fed funds or go bankrupt.

Whether GM is the business model I would choose over Ford, it is not. It save thousand an thousands of jobs when you include all the subcontractors that supply the auto industry.

To my point, JoAnnaSmith1's post was BS.

The Libertarian credo has been a total, utter failure. it was the Libertarian credo, as interpreted and promoted by such stellar figures as Jack Abramoff and Grover Norquist, that underlay the economic disaster still afflicting the world today.

Ron Paul is a potty-trained campaigner - every election, he gets the runs.

Now that he's planning on retirement from politics, there's one less nutcase to put up with.

Not retiring, you say? Of course he is. He has a snowball's chance in Hades in this race.

John A. you may not like the guy or his arguements, but really, the hyperbole is a bit overboard (if, however, funny)

Here's the deal, yes, libertarians have apparently been represented by the truly crazy. But ideologically, Libertarianism will and should always be represented. It is just that libertarians have been radicalized.

Ron Paul isn't an exception to the radicalization. But he does attempt to make the arguements for his ideology in a way that is as powerfully convincing as he can say. Yes, he'll never win an election because libertarianism is an unobtainable ideology. Much like, well on the opposite extreme, Communism. Nevertheless, always expect someone to be representing the Libertarian arguement, and personally, I miss Ron Paul after being subjected to the likes of Bachman and other current candidates.

John A. - The Liberal Credo is working how?

ron paul will receive a very luxurious retirement PAID for by AMERICAN TAXPAYERS, just as he has sucked the gov't teat all his life with excellent health benefits and pay, not to mention all the $$$ he got from big business while he was in office doing their bidding against honest hard working Americans.

Joannasmith,

Toyota got a bailout from Japan in case you didn't know and it is hard for American Mfgs to be competitive in America because our own government CONSTANTLY SCREWS AMERICAN COMPANIES AND GIVE UNFAIR ADVANTAGES TO FOREIGN COMPANIES!

Here is a great article for you to read to understand better http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58411.shtml

Here is some more:

In 1997, the state of Alabama granted huge subsidies to Mercedes in exchange for a plant that would employ 1,500 people. What were the details of this huge incentive package? $300 million in tax breaks, $253 million in direct incentives, $60 million in Alabama taxpayer money to send fellow Alabamans to Germany for training, and a promise to buy 2,500 of the new Mercedes SUV’s at $30,000 each. Based on just the initial $300 million grant alone, those 1,500 jobs will cost Alabama taxpayers $200,000 per job. Apparently Alabama, not Mercedes, will be paying those salaries for years to come. With deals like these, it’s no wonder foreign automakers have stepped up production in the U.S. We’ll even pay their workers’ salaries for them!

In 1987, Toyota constructed an auto plant on part of the 1,500 acres of free land given to them in Georgetown, Kentucky. The auto plant was built by a Japanese steel company using Japanese steel. The U.S. government granted a “special trade zone” so that Toyota could import auto parts from Japan duty-free. This duty free zone has saved Toyota about 25 BILLION to date and has given Toyota an unfair advantage. Financing was handled by Mitsui Bank of Japan. Total federal and state grants and incentives exceeded $100 million. These subsidies, of course, were courtesy of your tax dollars.

Tennessee gave Nissan $11,000 per job for their Smyrna plant built in 1980. South Carolina coughed up $79,000 per job to convince Germany’s BMW to build their plant in Spartanburg in 1992. Were you aware that our government was using your money to create jobs? Or are these merely job announcements where you and I foot the bill? Job announcements do make for great rhetoric for state governors’ re-election campaigns. How many years will it take a factory worker in Alabama to pay back the $200,000+ in tax money that the government gave away? A conservative answer would be “several.”

This is not to say that American companies are not granted incentives to build plants here. One recent is $100 million in incentives for Cadillac to build their next plant in Michigan. It is my opinion that we should not be imitating the Third World by using public money to bid for jobs. But when given the choice between foreign investment (Toyota, Mercedes, Nissan) and American investment (General Motors and Ford), American investment is much better for America.

The deal Alabama gave Mercedes makes the deal Michigan gave GM seem rather frugal. The point here is that these huge incentives that are offered to foreign companies are rarely offered to our own companies here at home. Such incentives allow foreign companies to save hundreds or even thousands of dollars in costs per automobile. And American companies acquire more of their parts from domestic sources, so more jobs are created in the automotive parts industry in America.

America needs more American investment, not more foreign investment.

Well, who would apply for the job of captain of a sinking boat? Anyone who wants the job now more than likely wants it for his/her own personal gain or aggrandizement as opposed to sincerely helping the American people.

ron paul predicted the housing bubble years and years and years ago, and he never shut up about it until it went down, I never herd obama or any dems predict the obama depression, the housing bubble, i did watch them prevent the changes that would have prevented it. obamas acorn pushing for lending to any and everyone with a pulse was the big problem, but those are facts, and you drones don't seem to care or facts. in fact every aspect of american life is worse under obamunism, and ron paul predicted that as well. Ron Paul trashed Bush up and down over the wars, and spending, yet you drones choose to ignore and hate him because Ron Paul is right and he is the opposite of big government totalitarianism, the progressive hallmark.You people suck, get the @!$%# out of my country before you take one step too far.

ron paul will receive a very luxurious retirement PAID for by AMERICAN TAXPAYERS, just as he has sucked the gov't teat all his life with excellent health benefits and pay, not to mention all the $$$ he got from big business while he was in office doing their bidding against honest hard working Americans.

Too many idiots not enough time.

Ron Paul REFUSED CONGRESSIONAL RETIREMENT PLAN believing it was too unfair to tax payers.

Also, Ron Paul worked as a doctor and served in the military. This man has been the greatest most honest servant of our country in generations.

Also, Ron Paul is the ONLY TOP TIER candidate that does NOT receive money from big business. Of his 4.5 Million raised in 2nd Qtr, 90% was raised from tens of thousands of ordinary people giving what they could afford.

Get a clue or keep your mouth shut about things you don't know.

dirp101

Jay Leno, David Letterman, Steven Colbert, and John Stewart will miss you. The rest of America just says Ron Paul, is that the pocket fisherman guy ?

Oh dang....now THAT is funny!!

But seriously....75 now, 77 at inauguration.....come on....really?

What are you an ageist VermontGirl?

Isn't this really about the redistricting taking place in Texas;Ron Paul's district was going to be split up making it harder for him to get re-elected. Better to pull out and save face and influence.

An ageist? hardly...I'm a realist

If any of you would do some real research on Ron Paul you would not trash him , From what I see he is the only candidate that knows whats really going on with the economy , and how to fix it . he warned every one about it in 2003 and people like the ones in here ignored him like he was a nut job , what a same we could of stopped this recession from happening but the neocons thought they knew better ,so what if Ron is old , is his age going to stop us from bringing this country back , why do we need to be like Europe , To many entitlements and it's going broke , our problem is the wars ,entitlements,over seas bases ,over seas spending , if you stop giving money to other countries and bring the troops home it would save us 2 trillion dollars plus .

The biggest problem with health care is that the average American cant pay out of pocket ,plain and simple does.

And any one realized that how much our rights have been taken away since Bill Clinton the 2nd amendment is half gone , the 4th amendment is gone and right along with the 10th ,its time to wake up and stop this madness ,

Mitt Romney if elected will make things worst ,look at his state we know whats coming ,

The only way to get growth is top stop inflation , by cutting spending and getting sound money again ,if our money was backed by gold again ,we would not be hurting , And for a fact I know This year is the worst year I have ever seen this economy It is not getting better .Not yet

Ron Paul is the only one who will really get serious about fixing this country he cant be bought out ,

Vote RON PAUL and you will get sound money , strong economy , liberties back ,and our son's and daughters back from over seas ,and better national security (we are way to stretched thin )With our troops home we can secure our own borders ,

RON PAUL 2012

Someone name ONE thing Obama has done right. And ill consider voting for him.

I already know of his failures.

The failed bailout.

The failed healthcare reform.

The failed economic recovery.

Illegal war still going on in libya.

Tax cuts to GE while hardworking america pay more taxes. (what a nice liberal huh?)

Derek,

You stated: "Yes, he'll never win an election because libertarianism is an unobtainable ideology. Much like, well on the opposite extreme, Communism."

Ummmmm, when was communism unobtainable? Libertarianism once worked here in the US (100 years ago) and now that it doesn't work we have 9.1% unemployment so no one works. How's that planned economy workin' for ya? wink wink.

--- On another note--

I guess Ron Paul looks at 2012 as I do. If he doesn't become president the game is over, we'll be well on our way to being a third world country in a global euphoria (OECD). Batten down the hatches and settle in for a long period of unrest. The Great Tribulation will last for 7 years.

I don't understand your comparison of Libertarianism and Communism. Did any members of the Communist Party in the US ever get elected to a national office? Not that I remember, and the members of the Communist Party in Russia, China, and North Korea certainly weren't elected.

The danger in Libertarianism is its similarities to the Anti-Federalist party in the early 1800's, as the Constitution was being debated. Paul is an idealist who is hung up on a theory, looking for a simplistic answer to a very complicated multi-dimensional problem - one that has no simplistic answers - and to my knowledge, it can't be demonstrated that Libertarianism, as a governing philosophy, has worked anywhere else.

Shadmin

Paul Ryan is bringing the $350.00 bottle of wine. Oh, excuse me, two bottles of $350.00 wine.

Is Paul Ryan's accuser , drunken lefty moonbat professor Susan Feinberg going to be there to screech at all the diners for enjoying their meal while government programs are cut?

Will Paul Ryan's accuser bring her own $80 bottle of wine, she drank (a lot of, apparently) the same night? And tell us why $80 wine is OK, but $350 wine is not?

On the menu this afternoon over at the Teapubican caucus, they're serving up left over baloney sandwiches, cream of 'mushroom' soup & warm hatoraide...

Too funny Feisty!

I thought it was cheese sandwiches and Kool-Aid.

Say Amy when is Obama going to advise us as to what he actually plans on cutting from the entitlement programs?

You don't suppose he's not being totally honest, do you?

Right there in black and white. Read the Wash Post if you can't find it on AP or Reuters or any other news outlet. Bonier still walked away. What was that about dishonesty?

You don't suppose he's not being totally honest, do you?

I hope not Spanky. I actually hope he starts adopting some republican tactics. They have proven most effective. I hope he floats a bunch of conditions in exchange for yes votes and then yanks the rug out from under the repubs once they agree to the demands. Frankly though, negotiating is not what the repubs are there for.

Ever play football Spanky? Right now the repubs are playing the old "eat up the clock" game. They are eating up time, stalling and sticking and moving to keep the Dems on defense. Their game is to make it look like they are seriously trying to "negotiate" when everyone knows this is total theater. The Dems come to the table to ink a deal, and all the repubs have to do is say, "OK,....new conditions again." Then they pretend to negotiate again, and introduce more conditions, and the cycle continues until Aug 1st at 11:59 p.m. Then they will get a few dings in the social safety net and go back to their constituents crowing about how they body slammed the Dems again.

These are also standard delay tactics used when corporations "negotiate" with Unions. Ever do any Union busting work Spank? I'd of thought a guy like you would be naturally drawn to an easy meal ticket like that one. Real bottom-feeder crap, ambulance chaser, but lucrative, and intensely widespread.

How do you know? Do you live in the Victoria, TX area? Those people love that man. Everything in that district is named after his family.

Don't be a jive turkey

Those people love that man. Everything in that district is named after his family.

Well that sure answers a lot of questions I have and on that note all I have to say is "they can keep him!"

Well the fact he's far behind in both money and polling says something. If you want to dismiss that, and dismiss the fact that he's never made more than low double digets in any of his presidential runs...then consider where the clamour is even in his own party for legalized prostitution, heroin and a return to isolationism (the last is a hot topic, even on the right wing end of the party.)

Seattle Sue and AP..., Jeez, read the article. He's not running for his HOUSE SEAT, he's still running for president. Clear as black and white if you don't just assume and actually read what you comment on.

They may love Ron Paul in Texas, but that's only 1 state. He is a NUT and has no chance of winning. Where does the tea party come up with these people? Oh, he's a libertarian. Not much difference.. still crazy. Wants to legalize heroin. How does that go over in conservative Texas? JUST ANOTHER NUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT year, after year, after year. Enjoy the great retirement we,the people, are GIVING YOU.

They may love Ron Paul in Texas, but that's only 1 state. He is a NUT and has no chance of winning. Where does the tea party come up with these people? Oh, he's a libertarian. Not much difference.. still crazy. Wants to legalize heroin. How does that go over in conservative Texas? JUST ANOTHER NUT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT year, after year, after year. Enjoy the great retirement we,the people, are GIVING YOU.

You know nothing about this man who is the GREATEST political figure in generations.

Did you know he worked as a doctor during his first 10 years of congressional service?

Did you know he returned over $140,000 of his budget back to the treasury this past year... more than any other member of congress?

Did you know Ron Paul has refused to partake in the Congressional retirement plan because he believes it is unfair to tax payers?

Did you know he served 5 years in the military?

I could go on and on about the things you DON'T know about this man... try learning more about someone before you attack them.

Hey Spanky,

If California is such a Liberal hell hole why don't you leave the state?

Seriously dude, why don't you cut bait and split?

You can take the bar in 49 other states.

You can take the bar in 49 other states.

Problem is Greg, CA is the ONLY state he can pass it! ;o)

He don't represent Dewey - Screwem & Howe for nuttin...

He don't represent Dewey - Screwem & Howe for nuttin...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

To Hannah: Get real he does not want to legalize heroin. You are crazier than a $h!thouse bat.

Legalizing heroine isn't a bad idea at all. It would be cheaper to legalize it and for the government to actually provide the drug and the needles to the addicts than to fight the war against it. I do not do drugs, but who am I to tell someone else what they can or cannot do to or with thier own body? I have no problems with legalized abortion, so why should I have a problem with legalized sex for money? This is a pathetic society when we say it's ok to kill a product of sex for money, but illegal to sell sex for money. By the way prostitution isn't against any federal law, if it were they wouldn't be doing it in Nevada. It's a state to state thing. There should be an amendment as with abortions though giving the right to a person if they so choose to earn a living in this fashion.

Back to the heroine argument though, if it were legalized and provided by federal clinics there would be no need to reuse dirty needles, spreading diseases like wildfire. There would be no need for the addicts to rob you blind for money to purchase the illegal substance and within a few years 75% of the addicts will have injected themselves right into the promised land so the cost of the project will decrease, unlike the ever increasing costs related to a war on drugs that can never be won.

As I previously stated, I am not a drug user, but am intelligent enough to know that the war on drugs is a war that we can never win and can only spend more and more money fighting it.

It's your body, do with it what you want to. Isn't that the most basic freedom any of us should have? Or do some people just get thier kicks forcing what they believe is right to thier body onto others? How would you feel if a law was passed banning tatoo's or piercings of any sort because some people find it offensive to view in public?

Later, guy. Your outrageous Libertarian antics will (not) be missed.

Give me a break. Democrats and Republicans have screwed this nation beyond repair. Please don't attack the only party who has never been in power. I have a feeling we will all be libertarians in 10 years.

I beg to differ Mr. Rogers. We will all be fighting for what crumbs of food are left in 10 years if things keep progressing in the manner they have been progressing for the past 11 years.

Jim,

the Republicans are keeping their promise not to raise taxes.

Whereas, all of Obama's promises come with an expiration date.

I'd say Obama delivered pretty well--supreme court, health care, bin laden, to name just a few, all while trying to get us out of the horrific ditch courtesy George W and his mindless wars. The R's? not so much (for health care before they were against it, for a budget deal before they were against it).

Bob, President Obama tried to work with Republicans by offering up cuts to entitlement programs. Republicans should be applauding this offering and coming to the table with their own concessions. Yea, they can remain stubborn and ideological, but we pay the price as we default on our obligations. Thanks Republicans.

Sorry, Ron, the House Seat in NOT YOURS, BUT THE PEOPLE'S SEAT !!! You have been in Government too long !!! What ever happened to the Repukes "Contract with America" and those TERM LIMITS AMENDMENTS and now since you Repukes are BITCHIN AND MOANING ABOUT THE DEBT AND DEFICIT, what happened to the BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT promised in your "Contract" ??? YOU REPUKES ARE LYING YOUR A$$ES OFF ALL THE TIME !!! As Truman said on one Repuke, Tricky Dick Nixon: "He talks out of both sides of his mouth, telling LIES OUT OF BOTH SIDES!!!" Nothing changes for Repukes: LIES, LIES, NOTHING BUT LIES !!!

Paul never made the contract and doesn't believe term limits are a problem.

Also, Paul is WIDELY CONSIDERED as one of the most HONEST MAN in congress in both parties.

Paul NEVER participated in the congressional retirement plan because he believed it was unfair to tax payers. Also, as a doctor delivering over 4,000 babies, Paul lived his principals refusing to take Medicare and instead seeing patients for free in some cases or working out what they could afford.

You obviously know NOTHING about this man... try keeping your mouth shut or you look like a fool.

"98% certain he can win"....lmao

I will say this though....this isn't good news for the GOP.

Paul will never get the GOP nomination but it does signal Paul is in it for the long haul....Can you say "3rd Party Candidate"?

You conservative/baggers worst nightmare is going to smack you square in the eyes....split republican votes.

Dream on Tea Bag! Tea anyone?

Let him think Paul has a chance. Keeps the teabaggers busy and away from the real issues.

WOOHOO Jericho!!

Ron Paul 2012!!! (it feels even better in bold)

He'll get my vote also. There are a lot of Ron Paul followers in America. Most keep to themselves. Every wonder why half the population never votes? There's usually not a candidate they believe in. I predict the next presidential election will have more turn out than any of the previous 10 presidential elections. Even the folks that could care less about politics are starting to pay attention when they see the country headed right down the toilet.

"why Ron Paul followers keep to themselves"

because they are in isolation wards?

b dune - Good punchline, however off base it is. It got a laugh from me. Ron Paul is not an isolationist. He's said so himself. He is a non-interventionalist. Big difference.

Where on God's green earth did you come up with 98%? If you ever had a statistics class, you would know what a ridiculous figure that is. At least he's more respectable than Donald Trump, but I'm not sure he's any more electable. I think Obama would whip him easily, because Paul's got some truly off the wall ideas, that I don't think will sit well with independents, or members of either major party, and Obama (and Geithner, and Bernanke) are the only officials acting like adults in the debt ceiling mess. BTW, I don't recall hearing any input from Paul about the debt ceiling, or about what should be done to stimulate job growth.

Shadmin

He can't. That's why he chose.

You're a good example of why the rest of us think you Tea Party Ron Paul Republicans are a joke.

Ron Paul 2012!

Run Paul with never get one African American vote.

Run Paul will never raise enough money for a 50 state President run.

Run Paul wants no government or very little we are not in 1860's so what the hell is he in government for?

Run Paul will get to kept all the money he raise off fools like you thinking he will win. Then keep all the leftover money for retirement. What a great ness egg you will be giving him.

Run Paul has ran every year since he has been in congress. Say What! Shut your mouth.

Run Paul will have every pothead in America voting for him = 1% hippy.

Run Paul will split, brake, broke, crush, divide, chop, fold the rebuker's vote in half. Go Run Paul

Run is spelled like that on purpose, just in case you haven't notice.

Crazey Asssfault

You're being a jive turkey

Ron Paul 2012!

Run Paul with never get one African American vote.

I personally know a dozen voting for him.

Run Paul will never raise enough money for a 50 state President run.

Ron Paul raised the SECOND HIGHEST amount of any GOP candidate in 2008. Also, Ron Paul was 2nd only to Mitt Romney in 2nd QTR fund raising. The difference: NONE of Paul's money comes from big business.

Run Paul wants no government or very little we are not in 1860's so what the hell is he in government for?

Actually, Paul is one of the VERY FEW who kept his job as a doctor for over 10 years while serving in the House. He served as a citizen congressman, much like our founders.

Run Paul will get to kept all the money he raise off fools like you thinking he will win. Then keep all the leftover money for retirement. What a great ness egg you will be giving him.

There are laws against this. Incidentally Ron Paul never participated in the congressional retirement plan because he felt it was unfair to tax payers stuck with SS.

Run Paul has ran every year since he has been in congress. Say What! Shut your mouth.

FAIL... this is his third time. Reagan won his third time. I can already tell how many "facts" you have.

Run Paul will have every pothead in America voting for him = 1% hippy.

I never smoked pot and am voting for him.

Run Paul will split, brake, broke, crush, divide, chop, fold the rebuker's vote in half. Go Run Paul

There is a primary first... It's ok to "split" the vote there.

Run is spelled like that on purpose, just in case you haven't notice.

CrazeyAsssfault

Name calling is the first sign you lost the debate.. although I think this doesn't even qualify as a debate seeing as how you couldn't get even one fact straight.



Most people on here know little about RON PAUL , the one's that trash him don't know nothing about him and I'm sure little about the constitution or the bill of rights ,

But maybe thats the way the media wants it. Do some research and don't lesson to the media .

Thank you Ron Paul! The most you have so far done for your country.!

I could list hundreds of achievements.. but let's start with his 5 years of service in the military.

...and that has to do with this article ... how?

Agreed though - something very wrong with those numbers.

@RICHARD FROM TAMPA,

No no one is confused on the math.

So let me get this straight we should tell everyone who paid into medicare and social security for 40 or more years they should expect Shhiiiitttt sandwiches the next time they look in their mailboxes. Right?

Or you want them to cut everyone else off so you will have Medicare and Social Security when you turn 65 right?

Which one is it? You can't have it both ways.

@RICHARD FROM TAMPA,

No no one is confused on the math.

So let me get this straight we should tell everyone who paid into medicare and social security for 40 or more years they should expect Shhiiiitttt sandwiches the next time they look in their mailboxes. Right?

Or you want them to cut everyone else off so you will have Medicare and Social Security when you turn 65 right?

Which one is it? You can't have it both ways.

How's Tampa? I was just there!

I agree.

He's the only "politician" I've known in my lifetime that even begins to approach honesty.

He's the only person, that while I have extreme reservations about being involved in politics in any shape or form, I might actually vote for.

If anything, he will bring a massive paradigm shift to DC.

All about the people?? His problem is "lack of flash"??? LOL!! --legalized drugs and prostitution (yeah, way to go to the PEOPLE!!) isolationism (again? Like it worked so well for us??) Abolishing the IRS? (oh great...I can just see the volunteers rushing to pave the roads and keep the schools going...) Govmint out of people's lives (oh yeah, unless you are a female and in need of an abortion--then see if you can beg permission in his world). He's a partisan extremist hack with absolutely no chance at winning so much as a second glance in ANY state in this union by any political party and you swallow this wing nut hook, line and sinker.

AP-1414066 - Do you know about subtly? There a very real differnece between isolationism and non-interventionalism. They're both long words, end in ism and they have quite a few i's in them but they're very different. You would do well to learn the subtle differences between the two. In fact Ron Paul has said from his own mouth that he is not an isolationist. I think in a primary debate he actually became exasperated by the stupidity of people who kept mixing up isolationism and non-interventionalism. That's what politics has become though isn't it. The people have failed democracy not the politicians. There is this great segment in the movie Fair Game where Sean Penn's character is giving a speech in front of a bunch of students. He tells them that they've been duped by the politico and that it is their responibility to find the truth because it doesn't come from a politicians mouth and it certainly won't come from the media. Learn the difference between those two words and you'll be one step closer to making an informed decision next time you vote.

So AP, you obviously disagree with legalizing drugs. We have spent billions on the "war on drugs" and not really accomplished anything except put alot of non-violent people in jail because they used them. I don't advocate drug use, but it happens, we could spent trillions and never stop it, you know that as well as I. Regulate it like we do alcohol...prohibition worked sooooo well for us you know.

He does not advocate isolationism. He advocates bringing our troops home and not SPENDING over a TRILLION dollars a year maintaining OVER 900 MILITARY BASES IN 135 COUNTRIES. He wants a free market economy that promotes free trade(not free as in no tariffs), a strong global economy. Not making the rest of the world stare down the barrel of our guns is not isolationism.

Yes, abolish the IRS. We don't need the federal government controling and taxing every move we make. He advocates a simple tax code that doesn't require 20,000 beaurecrats to administer.

As far as abortion goes, he has stated he is pro life but doesn't believe the federal government should mandate anything in this regard, that it should stay at the State level. So yes, less government intrusion in everything we do.

I have read his books and I check his site occasionally for any news. You should go check out the things he has to say, and just as importantly check out the reasons why he has his views. Unlike many politicians, he explains his position and why he intends to vote a certain way.

You don't have to agree with everything the man says, I don't agree with all his views. But I would be hard pressed to think of anyone I have ever met or heard of in my life that I agree with everything they say. I agree with the majority of what Dr. Paul has to say and alot of his reasoning is the same as mine. Don't go by what others say...not even me, hehe....find out for yourself. Read up on a few things and watch some videos, you might be pleasantly surprised.

really and Adam thank y'all SO much for not making me type all that out! I get so sick and tired of people like AP (in fact I'm pretty sure I've ALREADY correct AP on these points more then once) spewing the same misinformation over and over, it gets so frustrating!

Ron Paul 2012!

really and Adam thank y'all SO much for not making me type all that out! I get so sick and tired of people like AP (in fact I'm pretty sure I've ALREADY correct AP on these points more then once) spewing the same misinformation over and over, it gets so frustrating!

Truth is.. 100% of these fools on here who DIS Ron Paul know NOTHING about him. He is the GREATEST FIGURE of our time in politics.

The Federal Reserve is NOT privately owned. Educate yourself.

Mike,

It is NOT owned by the USA or it's government, can you tell me who DOES own it?

Mikeo76

The Federal Reserve is NOT privately owned. Educate yourself.

You're right of course, the Board of Governers of the Federal Reserve is appointed/confirmed like many other officials. The regional federal reserve banks are private corporations (ask the supreme court) and their directors are appointed by private banking members.

Where it gets sticky, and I assume this is what ubermensch alludes to, is when you look at the governing bodies. The Federal Advisory Council is entirely selected from this private group representing each regional board and the FOMC pulls nearly half of its members from the same group.

It may not be a correct to characterize the Fed as privately owned, but I don't think it's unreasonable to question where the loyalties of the key decision makers lie, considering that they have an obligation to private companies.

Oh Mikeoooo

It is in fact privately owned. 100% of it shares are owned by private banks. The government owns no shares in it at all.

Educate YOURSELF

really?-2501934

100% of it shares are owned by private banks.

This is true, but it's hard to call this an ownership interest in the Fed. The member bank's investment requirement with their local reserve bank is dictated by the size of the member bank's operation and they take no operational control (of the Fed, except as noted above) as a result of their contribution. The shares are non-transferrable and yield only a fixed dividend as a return, not an "equity interest". This applies to the regional banks, which are for most intents and purposes, private corporations.

The Board of Directors of the Fed is a government agency, appointed by the executive branch, and as such has no ownership structure.

Most of the profits of the Federal Reserve are returned to the Treasury Department.

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