Romney unveils advisers on natl. security and foreign policy

CHARLESTON, SC -- In advance of speech on defense and foreign policy that he will deliver on Friday, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney today released a list of the advisers who have shaped -- and will continue to guide -- his thinking on these issues.

On Romney’s list were bold-faced names who served in the Bush administration like former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and former CIA Director Michael Hayden, as well as Cofer Black, who once served as the vice chairman of the controversial private-security firm Blackwater.

“I am deeply honored to have the counsel of this extraordinary group of diplomats, experts, and statesmen,” Romney said in a statement announcing these advisers. Their remarkable experience, wisdom, and depth of knowledge will be critical to ensuring that the 21st century is another American Century.”

Chertoff, who is also advising Romney on judicial issues, was tapped by President George W. Bush to be the nation's second Homeland Security secretary. In that role, he was the target of a substantial amount of criticism for the federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina. Prior to that job, Chertoff served as a federal appeals court judge and federal prosecutor.

Hayden, who along with Chertoff will co-chair Romney's working group on counter-terrorism and intelligence, also has a distinguished (but also controversial) background in national security. As director of the National Security Agency -- and then later the CIA -- he was embroiled in the debate over warranttless wiretapping following 9/11, which he later argued before Congress was a legal and necessary step to protect the United States against further terrorist strikes.

Black, another former member of the CIA, is listed as one of Romney's special advisers. He left government service in 2004 after a long CIA career and two years as the  State Department coordinator for counter-terrorism issues, and then became a vice chairman for the private security firm Blackwater -- a position is not mentioned in the short biography provided by the Romney campaign.

Romney’s team also includes some prominent voices in the neo-conservative movement, such as Brookings fellow and syndicated columnist Robert Kagan, and it lists former Iraq Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor.

Other members of Romney's team have been in the news lately for their continuing roles in global affairs. Special adviser Robert Joseph was one of the principal negotiators behind Libya's decision to give up their WMD earlier this decade, and has been interviewed in March by the New York Times on the ongoing conflict there. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/02/world/middleeast/02arms.html

A final observation: While on the campaign trail, Romney occasionally criticizes President Obama's thinking on foreign policy as being guided by too much time in the "Harvard Faculty lounge,” more than a third of the advisers listed today have Harvard connections -- either earning degrees at the school or serving as faculty there.

The full list:
SPECIAL ADVISERS
Cofer Black
Vice President of Blackbird Technologies; Director of the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center (1999-2002); United States Department of State Coordinator for Counter-Terrorism (2002-2004)

Christopher Burnham
Vice Chairman of Deutsche Bank Asset Management; United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Management (2005-2006); United States Under Secretary of State for Management (2001-2005)

Michael Chertoff
Chairman of the Chertoff Group; United States Secretary of Homeland Security (2005-2009); Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (2003-2005)

Eliot Cohen
Director of the Strategic Studies Program at the School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; Counselor to the United States Department of State (2007-2009); Defense Policy Advisory Board Member (2001-2009)

Norm Coleman
Chairman of the Board, American Action Network; Adviser to the Republican Jewish Coalition; United States Senator (R-MN) (2003-2009)

John Danilovich
Member of the Trilantic European Advisory Council; CEO of Millennium Challenge Corporation (2005-2009); Ambassador to Brazil (2004-2005); Ambassador to Costa Rica (2001-2004)

Paula Dobriansky
Senior Fellow at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University; Under Secretary of State for Democracy and Global Affairs (2001-2009)

Eric Edelman
Visiting Scholar at School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University; Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (2005-2009); Principal Deputy Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs (2001-2003)

Michael Hayden
Principal of the Chertoff Group; Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2006-2009); Director of the National Security Agency (1999-2005)

Kerry Healey
President, Friends of the Public-Private Partnership for Justice Reform in Afghanistan; Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007); Trustee, American University of Afghanistan

Kim Holmes
Vice President of Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the Heritage Foundation; Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (2001-2005)

Robert Joseph           
Senior Scholar at the National Institute for Public Policy; Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security (2005-2007)

Robert Kagan
Syndicated Columnist; Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution in the Center on United States and Europe; Board Member of the Foreign Policy Initiative

John Lehman
Chairman and Founding Partner, J. F. Lehman & Co.; National Security Advisory Counsel for the Center for Security Policy; Secretary of the Navy (1981-1987); Member of the 9/11 Commission

Walid Phares
Professor of Global Strategies at the National Defense University in Washington; Member of the Advisory Board of the Task Force on Future Terrorism at the Department of Homeland Security (2006-2007)

Pierre Prosper
Partner at Arent Fox; United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues (2001-2005); Special Counsel and Policy Adviser to the Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues (1999-2001)

Mitchell Reiss
President of Washington College; Director of Policy Planning at State Department (2001-2005); Special Envoy for Northern Ireland (2005-2007)

Daniel Senor
Partner at Rosemont Capital; Coalition Provisional Authority Spokesman and Senior Advisor (2003-2004); Director and Co-Founder, Foreign Policy Initiative

Jim Talent
Distinguished Fellow at the Heritage Foundation; United States Senator (R-MO) (2002-2007)

Vin Weber
Managing Partner, Clark & Weinstock; Member of the United States House of Representatives (R-MN) (1981-1993)

Richard Williamson
Partner at Winston & Strawn; United States Ambassador to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights (2004); Special Envoy to Sudan (2008-2009); Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (1988-1989)

Dov Zakheim
Senior Advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) (2001-2004); Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Planning and Resources (1985-1987)

WORKING GROUP CHAIRS AND CO-CHAIRS
Afghanistan & Pakistan
James Shinn, Co-Chair
Lecturer at Princeton University; Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asian and Pacific Security Affairs (2007-2008)

Ashley Tellis, Co-Chair
Senior Associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Senior Adviser to the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs (2003)

Africa
Tibor Nagy, Chair
Vice Provost for International Affairs at Texas Tech University; Ambassador to Ethiopia (1999-2002); Ambassador to Guinea (1996-1999)

Asia-Pacific
Evan Feigenbaum, Co-Chair
Executive Director of the Paulson Institute; Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia (2006-2009); Member for East Asia, Secretary of State's Policy Planning Staff (2001-2006)

Aaron Friedberg, Co-Chair
Professor of Politics and International Affairs at Princeton University; Deputy Assistant for National Security Affairs and Director of Policy Planning, Office of the Vice President (2003-2005)

Kent Lucken, Co-Chair
Director at Citigroup Private Bank in Boston; Former Foreign Service Officer; Board Member for the US-Asia Institute

Counter-Proliferation
Eric Edelman, Co-Chair
Visiting Scholar at School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University; Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (2005-2009); Principal Deputy Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs (2001-2003)

Robert Joseph, Co-Chair
Senior Scholar at the National Institute for Public Policy; Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security (2005-2007)

Stephen Rademaker, Co-Chair
Principal at Podesta Group; Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation (2002-2006); Policy Director for National Security Affairs and Senior Counsel to Senator Bill Frist (2006-2007)

Counterterrorism & Intelligence
Michael Chertoff, Co-Chair
Chairman of the Chertoff Group; Secretary of Homeland Security (2005-2009); Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (2003-2005)

Michael Hayden, Co-Chair
Principal of the Chertoff Group; Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2006-2009); Director of the National Security Agency (1999-2005)

Defense
John Lehman, Co-Chair
Chairman and Founding Partner, J.F. Lehman & Co.; National Security Advisory Council for the Center for Security Policy; Secretary of the Navy (1981-1987); Member of the 9/11 Commission

Roger Zakheim, Co-Chair
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (2008-2009)

Europe
Nile Gardiner, Co-Chair
Director of the Heritage Foundation's Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom; Foreign Policy Researcher for British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher (2000-2002)

Kristen Silverberg, Co-Chair
Chief Operating Officer at Vorbeck Materials; Ambassador to the European Union (2008-2009); Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs (2005-2008)

Human Rights
Pierre Prosper, Chair
Partner at Arent Fox; United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues (2001-2005); Special Counsel and Policy Adviser to the Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues (1999-2001)

International Assistance
Grant Aldonas, Co-Chair
Senior Adviser at Center for Strategic and International Studies; Under Secretary for International Trade at the Commerce Department (2001-2005); Member of the Board of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (2001-2005)

Daniel Runde, Co-Chair
Director of Prosperity and Development at Center for Strategic and International Studies; Former Director of the Office of Global Development Alliances at USAID (2005-2007); Head of Philanthropy Relations at the International Finance Corporation (2007-2010)

International Organizations
Christopher Burnham, Co-Chair
Vice Chairman Deutsche Bank Asset Management; United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Management (2005-2006); United States Under Secretary of State for Management (2001-2005)

Paula Dobriansky, Co-Chair
Senior Fellow at the Harvard University John F. Kennedy School of Government; Under Secretary of State for Democracy and Global Affairs (2001-2009)

Robert O’Brien, Co-Chair
Partner at Arent Fox; US Alternate Representative to the 60th session of the United Nations General Assembly (2005-2006); Former legal officer with the United Nations Security Council (Compensation Commission) (2006-2008)

Latin America
Clifford Sobel, Co-Chair
Ambassador to Brazil (2006-2009); Ambassador to the Netherlands (2001-2005); Member United States Holocaust Memorial Council (1994-1998)

Ray Walser, Co-Chair
Senior Policy Analyst at the Heritage Foundation; Director of the Foreign Service Institute's Western Hemisphere Area Studies program (2005-2007); 27-year Foreign Service Officer

Middle East & North Africa
Mary Beth Long, Co-Chair
Senior Vice President at Neural IQ Government Services; Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs (2007-2009)

Meghan O’Sullivan, Co-Chair
Lecturer at Kennedy School of Government; Special Assistant to President George W. Bush and Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan (2004-2007)

Walid Phares, Co-Chair
Professor of Global Strategies at the National Defense University in Washington; Member of the Advisory Board of the Task Force on Future Terrorism at the Department of Homeland Security (2006-2007)

Russia
Leon Aron, Co-Chair
Resident Scholar and Director of Russian Studies at the American Enterprise Institute; Author of Yeltsin: A Revolutionary Life and other noted works; Contributed to The New Russian Foreign Policy

William Martel, Co-Chair       
Associate Professor of International Security Studies at the Fletcher School, Tufts University      

Discuss this post

All re threads.......a recipe for back to disaster

  • 12 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM EDT

Yeah, but I think we have all learned a valuable lesson, the hard way.

Experience counts. Putting someone with no experience in there and letting them wing it is a bad way to go.

Right GingerBread?

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM EDT

We have never had anyone run for President who has done the job before. Therefore, at this point the incumbent is always more experienced.

  • 16 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

All re threads.......a recipe for back to disaster

It's what happens when they use the smoke detector as an oven timer...

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT

Them dudes but this didn't beat my imagination. Neocons are really fighting there way back. Dick could have a hand in these picks.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

Ol' Romney's coming up short. I don't see Spanky on his list anywhere.

Or the Smiff woman.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT

Not only retreads, Gingerbread Mamma, but Bush administration retreads and Blackwater representation plus 1/3 from Harvard (which Romney otherwise criticizes). That is the kind of leadership he offers?

  • 7 votes
#1.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT

DBO

seriously, this list is very TORTURING.

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

gingerbread - does this mean because obama is the incumbent he should be re-elected?

We have never had anyone run for President who has done the job before. Therefore, at this point the incumbent is always more experienced

I agree that not all candidates will have the requisite skills base that a POTUS will have to face, but it would be nice to have a candidate that has some knowledge of a job other than just give campaign speeches. Seems that obama could have used about another 12 years in the senate to develope what he so clearly lacks today.

Obama gave us the rhetoric of "hope and change", now it is the time to get someone in office that can deliver.

  • 6 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

And GM, since the incumbent is experienced...he has a track record.

Unlike 2008...Barack Obama's performance as POTUS is measurable, and can be quantified.

It's going to be easier this time around.

Not for candidate Obama, however.

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

Anybody live near Chicago?.............Private forecaster Accuweather.com said on Wednesday that heavy snow and extreme cold should be expected in the north central United States, especially in the Chicago area, in the coming winter.......so much for global warming...........

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:12 PM EDT

Think of the chronic reputation the Bush Administration created for the US around the world. And how much has been done to change that since then.

Today Bin Laden is gone and more than twenty-plus top terrorists are gone, AQ is systematically being dismantled, Qaddafi gone, Iraq ending, working with our international partners instead of trying to carry the can, etc. etc.

From NBC First Read:

No President in more than 20 years,

"has had more foreign-policy successes happen under his watch than President obama".

  • 6 votes
#1.11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

On Romney's list were bold-faced names who served in the Bush administration like former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and former CIA Director Michael Hayden, as well as Cofer Black, who once served as the vice chairman of the controversial private-security firm Blackwater.

Holy Hanna Banana.

Chertoff, in case no one remembers, is the guy who let Heckuva Job Michael Brown take the fall for his own failures regarding Katrina.

http://www.rense.com/general67/chertd.htm

Michael Hayden, after having presided over the non-finding of Osama bin Laden, has had the audacity to criticize the President on issues relating to Al Qaeda.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-19/politics/cia.torture.chief_1_memos-cia-officers-interrogation-tactics?_s=PM:POLITICS

Hello?!

And even allowing Blackwater in the house -- much less taking "major" advice from Cofer Black -- just goes to show where Romney's head is.

Blackwater must be Romney's idea of private sector "job creation."

As telling a threesome as ever there could be.

Vladimir Putin is licking his chops. He's just become relevant again.

Thanks for the heads-up, Mitt. Gotta go now.

That guy from Iran just called. It's time to dig my bunker.

Bag Boy, I believe I'm going to owe you that pizza after all.

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

You'll owe me a pizza simply because you are willing to settle for Obama.

Can't say I blame you.

I'm used to being called a racist.

You aren't...so, fall in line, AM.

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:21 PM EDT

I'm used to being called a racist.

You aren't...so, fall in line, AM.

LoL Because I'm so submissive and easy to lead?

I can get used to it.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:24 PM EDT

Anna,

Putin has never not been relevant. Very, very patient Vladimir is.

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

Now First Read is reporting that Harry Reid will NOT let the Presidents Jobs Bill be voted on today.

Guess he changed his mind.

Hope he changed it for a better one.

What a tool.

  • 8 votes
#1.16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT

PEN- you speak the truth.

Also-

".......so much for global warming..........."

Were you looking at the Chicagoland forecast, or the wildfire reports out of Texas, I forget....

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:34 PM EDT

Geez, Mitt, counting your chickens before they are hatched or something. Chertoff, Hayden--seriously? Most candidates who are not the nominees have a few advisors in various areas. Romney has more foreign policy advisors than any president has cabinet members which says Romney doesn't have a clue but most of us already knew that.

  • 8 votes
#1.18 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:51 PM EDT

I recon2012, are you really that stupid. Global warming is about weather extremes. It means extreme heat, you know like Texas drying up and Chicago under 10' of snow, or tornados by the gross, moron oh sorry TP spelling Moran. You really need to go back to school and pay attention in science class this time. Global warming was a bad choice of words for the ignorant people in this country, to them it means its going to get hot all over right now you know warming. Good god recon catch up will you.

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

Jody

I contest that he's got no clue at all. Mitten's got two red meat clues, torturing and waterboarding. isn't that enough for the neocons?

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

Global warming was a bad choice of words for the ignorant people in this country,

I prefer to address it as climate change & Lord do I hope those forecasters are WRONG!

*yikes*

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:59 PM EDT

Feisty, they may not be wrong, west coast headed for same weather as last year cold, wet and more snow. Not something they are use to out there, cold and wet but not snow.

  • 3 votes
#1.22 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

Feisty, they may not be wrong.

Well that sucks... I'm still not 100% recovered from the blizzard we had last year on 2.1.2011! lol

Hundreds of people stranded on Lake Shore Drive for hours - we had 6' drifts in our driveway/cul-de-sac!

Made the storm of 1979 seem tame! ;o)

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

Mark in So. Cal:

Putin has never not been relevant. Very, very patient Vladimir is.

I know it's true. But that's what scares me. While Obama has been President, he appears to be waiting.

For what?

..........

On the topic of the weather, it may be snowing in the Sierras, but it is currently 78 degrees here -- according to my iPhone -- and heading for the low 80's today and tomorrow. The normal high is about 65. October is normally a changeable month for us, but we haven't seen rain in almost two weeks, and there's none in the immediate forecast. Just more flatline days with temperatures in the 70s, contrasting oddly with the brilliant fall colors.

Meanwhile the South, and in particular Texas, continues to parch, while the East has drowned this summer.

Climate change experts tell us to expect extremes. If those aren't extremes, I don't know what would be.

And I don't really want to find out.

  • 3 votes
#1.24 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

Global warming, is that really what you libbies what to talk about?

Fantastic, except I sure haven't heard too much from Obama, or ALGORE for that matter recently.

Well, at lest the science is "settled" and all that.

Gingerbread - Executive experience counts. Being a community organizer it turns out, not so much.

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

Jody, this Romney is a piece of work, he and the Mrs have the drapes measured and the furniture rearranged. Apart from all that, he probably needs all those advisors just to keep track of all his positions.

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

And I don't really want to find out.

Me either!

Factor in, historic hurricanes, tsunami's, earthquakes & drought...

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

Yep, I am comforted by knowledge that those glory days can return, w/ torture, illegal wiretaps, inadequate response to natural disasters, hired mercenary killers, etc. Oh yeah, neocons and blackwater - yummy

  • 4 votes
#1.28 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:08 PM EDT

Anna,

I believe Mr. Putin is waiting for Mr. Mendedev to run his course rather than President Obama. I was in Moscow in 2008 when Mr. Mendedev was first elected. It was very, very interesting reading the local take on the elections and Mr. Putin's role and future. A story yet to be played out.

Snow in the Sierra, indeed. Speaking strictly selfishly the last few ski seasons in California have been fabulous and sorry to the rest of the world and their crappy weather, we love it! And California is the center of the known universe, is it not?!!!!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.29 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

Yes, indeed, it is. To Californians. LoL

But I like it, too, what I've seen of it, anyway. San Diego and Northern California, San Francisco, and along the coast and the Napa Valley. Loved the coast, particularly.

    #1.30 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:33 PM EDT

    fiesty - You had better say yikes! I was very happy that the really bad snows passed us by last year in iowa. Had more than enough snow and shoveling the year before.

      #1.31 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:29 AM EDT

      Had more than enough snow and shoveling the year

      It was so deep - we had to shoveling it down to 'size' for the snowblower to do it's job! ;o)

        #1.32 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:04 AM EDT
        Reply

        What's he saying he wants to do? Bring us back to the bad old days.

        Why isn't Brownie on the list. Maybe he should tap Palin too, she can see Russia from her house.

        Why doesn't he just name "W" and Cheney to fill the rest of the list. He'll have us back on the worlds @!$%# list in no time.

        • 13 votes
        Reply#2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

        Tom, hi

        Just think of the chronically damaging reputation the Bush Administration created for the US around the world. And how much has been done to change that since then.

        Today Bin Laden is gone and more than twenty-plus top terrorists are gone, AQ is systematically being dismantled, Qaddafi gone, Iraq ending, working with our international partners instead of trying to carry the can, etc. etc.

        From NBC First Read:

        No President in more than 20 years,

        "has had more foreign-policy successes happen under his watch than President obama".

        • 8 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

        You got a vote from me Backhouse.

        Can you imagine a President Romney bringing us back to Bush's foreign-policy? Epic failure!

        • 8 votes
        #2.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:03 PM EDT

        Tom,

        It is inconceivable to go back to Bush's foreign policy.

        This Obama Administration has had to drag that anchor forward step by step by step, to redeem the USA from that terrible legacy. Our good relationships with the rest of the world is really critical, especially now in this severely struggling global economy.

        • 4 votes
        #2.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT

        You delusional remaining members of the Obama cult might want to read this

        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/10/06/poll_romney_perry_lead_obama_on_economy.html

        Obama is even upside down on foreign policy. The total botch job on Israeli/Palestinian talks is to blame.

        You should really start petitioning, now, for MSNBC to give him his own show. It would probably boost ratings- particularly at 8p.m., when I'm pretty sure a lot of ypu are being totally disloyal and watching Olbermann- even if you have to stream it- and you'll get to listen to his petulant, tantrum throwing, foot stomping speeches every week night.

        While the rest of us get to work repairing the damage.

        • 1 vote
        #2.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:35 PM EDT

        no joe....

        repairing the damage...you mean like starting another illegal war and getting another 4000 of our kids needlessly killed?

        • 4 votes
        #2.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:20 PM EDT

        You referring to Libya? You must be, since there was nothing illegal about Afghanistan or Iraq.

        Libya is another matter. Serious abrogation of the Constitution.

        • 1 vote
        #2.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
        Reply

        With Romney's working group and list of co chairs for his foreign policy team he will be awesome at the next debate. Perry and Cain better study up. I think the next debate is Oct 17.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

        NorthstarDFL

        are you saying he'll be awesome in carrying the neocons flag? because that what his team represents.

        • 6 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

        Pen, absolutely as a neocon. It was my attempt at satire. He is throwing a signal to Perry and Cain to step it up .

        The neocons destroyed our foreign policy and got us into two wars. they are like a herpes virus, They just go dormant until a more favorable time to reappear.

        • 8 votes
        #3.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT

        NorthstarDFL

        neocons are like herpes virus? really......did someone confess that to you after been water-boarded? crazy libbies.

        • 2 votes
        #3.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
        Reply

        It's "retreads" ...and every administration or "cabinet in waiting" draws on those with experience form previous administrations, usually from the same party...it is what it is.

        They do it to inspire confidence that they will not bring in their own "Mafia"...

        While political parties differ in their ideology the are exactly the same in strategy, tactics and public relations...

        • 4 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

        Somehow bringing in the team that destroyed America in the first place does not inspire confidence in me. First Bush's economic advisers and now this.

        Bend over America the Koch brothers don't want to pay taxes.

        • 9 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT
        Reply

        Can waterboarding be far behind?

        • 8 votes
        Reply#5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:47 PM EDT

        Gosh Tom - it kinda seems like Obama was nostalgic for the old days as well.'

        You remember when he said we are not doing as good as we were?

        In fact pursuant to the polls - right track/wrong track and how the economy is going, it seems that 77% or so are also looking for a return to the old days.

        Well at least Obama has ended all those terrible wars Bush started.

        Oh, wait. Never mind.

        I don't know why this moved - it is a response to Tom.

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

        Wow and ex-Blackwater exec, really Mitt? Neither one of those guys would make me feel comfortable about the security of this country moving forward. You might was well bring back Cheney and Rummy...

        • 3 votes
        #5.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:49 PM EDT
        Reply

        A final observation: While on the campaign trail, Romney occasionally criticizes President Obama's thinking on foreign policy as being guided by too much time in the "Harvard Faculty lounge,” more than a third of the advisers listed today have Harvard connections -- either earning degrees at the school or serving as faculty there.

        ==================

        I've always wondered how exactly Mr. Romney would know what the foreign policy thinking was in the Harvard Faculty Lounge if he didn't know what the foreign policy thinking was in the Harvard Faculty Lounge.

        If their perspective was so irrelevent, why on earth did Romney take the time to find out what their thinking was?

        Spanky - your comment about putting someone in there with no experience makes no sense, because the President is surrounded by no less distinguished advisors on the subjects than the list that was presented for Mr. Romney. If in your argument you are giving a 'pass' for Mr. Romney because he is surrounded by all these advisors, you by default have to give the same to the President who has even more.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT

        This is why we needed a Reconciliation Process similar to South Africa's after apartheid ended. The idea is not to punish but to acknowledge and recognize that horrible wrongs were done.

        By not pursuing those who tortured and those who wrote the legal authorizations for it, we have learned nothing. They should have been charged criminally and then allowed to avoid prosecution if they openly and fully acknowledged what they did.

        Now, because we did not do this, we face the prospect of past torturers holding government positions once more. Clearly anyone charged with torture could not be chosen as a national secuirty advisor.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

        So, Rommey wants to get the band back together! The same group that got us into to this mess. Just get Cheney to be your Vice and that will complete the band! Same old dog and pony show!!

        • 8 votes
        Reply#8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT

        Obama 2012!!

        • 9 votes
        Reply#9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT

        Obama/BIDEN 2012!....Let's not forget the whole package here....

        • 6 votes
        #9.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:14 PM EDT

        Obama/BIDEN 2012

        AND

        Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State! Susan Rice, UN Ambassador! 2012!

        America diplomacy is finally showing success. We can't go back to the Bush policies. We just can't.

        • 3 votes
        #9.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
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        Romney can start measuring the drapes now.

        The time to change out that black laquer furniture in the white house is long over due!

        Romney/Rubio!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • 2 votes
        #10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT

        "Romney/Rubio!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

        Uh.....who wants to break the news to Rob?

        • 6 votes
        #10.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

        Rob, appearently you did not hear but Rubio said "NO" to VP, not maybe but NO. and as for the furniture yea now you have blackwater mercinaries in the white house good job. You really are insane. No way No how on this one take the devil and put in charge here comes the end times.

        • 5 votes
        #10.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT

        Rob,

        Marco Rubio 10/05/2011 -- When asked at the Washington Ideas Forum at the Newseum in Washington DC, Marco Rubio repeated twice for emphasis, “I am not going to be the Vice Presidential nominee. I am not going to be the Vice Presidential nominee.”

        “I’m not focused on that,” he said. “I don’t crave it.”

        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/i-am-not-going-to-be-the-vp-nominee/

        • 5 votes
        #10.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:53 PM EDT

        Sorry but when asked to serve you serve.

        It's been that way for decades. Ask Dick Cheney.

          #10.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

          Ask Chris Christy

          Rubio wasnts to be President and most VP's don't get to be President.

          • 4 votes
          #10.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

          Poor taste Rob, even low for you - spare me the veiled racism...

          • 1 vote
          #10.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

          chris christy????

          What's he got to do with anything?

          What I'm saying is when the president elect asks you to serve as VP you say yes. Plain and simple.

            #10.7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

            and wasn't daddy bush a VP?

              #10.8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

              Rob,

              Christy was asked by the most important people … the voters that he serves or would serve.

              And since you can’t read let me try again … Most VP’s do not get elected as President after being a VP.

              Note that I did not say all.

              • 4 votes
              #10.9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

              14 is a pretty significant number. But yes your right most I suppose don't.

              Time will tell if your right or I'm right on Rubio.

              One thing is for sure Joe Biden will make your most list!

                #10.10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

                Rob in ma-3189632

                Sorry but when asked to serve you serve.

                It's been that way for decades. Ask Dick Cheney.

                ----------------------------------------------------------

                Evidently, you don't know DICK:

                -------------------------------------------

                No other vice president ever in essence picked himself for the position, as Mr. Cheney did as the head of Mr. Bush's vice-presidential search in the 2000 campaign.

                http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/dick_cheney/index.html

                • 3 votes
                #10.11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

                Rob,

                But 8 of the 14 became President due to Death or
                Resignation. Only 2 of the 8 actually won a reelection.

                • 4 votes
                #10.12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

                Perhaps the columnist for the NY Times should read Cheney's memoir and Bush's memoir. Both are pretty consistent in that Bush initially picked Cheney to assist in the search for a VP and after vetting a number of prospects Bush decided (remeber he was the decider) to asked Cheney to be his VP.

                And to my point when a president asks you to be vice president the only option is to say yes.

                  #10.13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:44 PM EDT

                  Death.... Resignation....heart beat away.

                  What's the difference? The VP spot gets Rubio on the national stage. As long as he doesn't come off like Al Gore he will transition right into the top spot.

                    #10.14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                    Rob,

                    “And to my point when a president asks you to be vice president the only option is to say yes.”

                    But aren’t they asked at the convention, well before the election? So a President doesn’t ask unless he is running for a second term.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                    [Poor taste Rob, even low for you...]

                    Umm...no it's not...altiough Raab is in a 12-step program for his "problem"...

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:20 PM EDT

                    [And to my point when a president asks you to be vice president the only option is to say yes.]

                    So, Raab...why would your "only option [be to] say yes"? Out of respect, perhaps?

                    And there you have it...Raab's feigned "respect" for the highest office in the land...truly pathetic.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:22 PM EDT
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                    Blackwater person as advisor? The group that made billions on no-bid contracts? Is this the group that may in part be responsible for the disappearence of a trillion dollars somewhere in the "war zone", that no one seems to know where it went? The group associated with questionable practices? This should be a warning to all of us--we are doomed to repeat the nightmare of the past unless we learn from history. I don't appreciate TP/GOP trying to drag all of us down just to get rid of our current president. Cutting off your nose to spite your face? Do they not understand that what goes around, comes around? Karma is such a bit##ch!

                    "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:26 PM EDT

                    That's their plan "Nurse". All they give a damn about is power and wealth...

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT
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                    Cart before the Horse much Mr. Romney? At this point no one really cares what your pipe dreams are, besides the list contains folks that were involved in the beginning of our current recession.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

                    Mixed Bag and Rob in ma

                    You both sound like a cheap imitations of the Spankster. You two really need to get your acts together.

                    And Spanky don't let my back handed compliment go to your head!

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:49 PM EDT

                    Oh damn, there you go again Torpedo. Spanky love, shining through.

                    And I was so hopeful this morning you actually were able to get off two posts without referring to me.

                    Oh well, old dogs and new tricks.

                    Damn this reverse dog whistle.

                    Ok Torpedo, since I'm in your head, and you came to me [again] - has lady Torpedo put in her notice yet?

                    I suspect this what must be causing you to always be so grumpy. You hate, hate hate all things big and corporate, and nothing is as big nasty and corporate as big insurance company, and what do we learn?

                    Lady Torpedo works at a big insurance company. has a law license, could be out there helping people, but alas she toils for the man, making those obscene profits even higher.

                    It must really chaffe you chaps my man. After all you told us she hates her bosses. And who wouldn't - insurqance companies just screw people, right Torpedo?

                    Man, I sure would want my wife under the man's thumb.

                    Golly I feel for you Torpedo, and will try to look past you grumpiness from now on.

                    • 1 vote
                    #13.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:36 PM EDT

                    Spank I warned you about letting my back handed compliment go to your head...Torpedo Envy it must be. And why this fixation with my wife?

                    As far as that whistle concerned you keep mentioning. It seems that you've been suckin on that thing so long your head is going to explode. Be careful...Then again we all know that most conservatives are orally fixated now don't we

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

                    Sure Torpedo.

                    So then the next time you post it won't include a reference to me?

                    Come on, you can do it. Stand on your own two feet. Make Lady Torpedo proud.

                    • 1 vote
                    #13.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

                    Glad you agree that most connies are orally fixated...Seem to recall the Feisty One calling you out yesterday for stalking ME...And here I was paying you a compliment and you go all mean and snarky on me....So tell me ... do you suck on that whistle or blow? Just askin! No more references to you though unless it is to call you out for your blatant stupidity!

                    • 6 votes
                    #13.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

                    So, seems "counselor" has resorted to bringing people's wives into the mix... Well, Spanky proves the point: once an @!$%# always an @!$%#.

                    Seems scumbags never change, right Spanky? Even lawyerin' scumbags...and all this time I though you couldn't get any lower...

                    • 6 votes
                    #13.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:30 PM EDT
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                    Romney is a fool! Foreign policy? Who succeeded in getting OBL and other top AlQaeda targets? Obama! Who called Libya & Arab spring right? Obama! Who is de-escalating Iraq? Obama! Who has attacked sanctuaries in Pakistan? Obama! The Rep. have ABSOLUTELY no foreign policy cred...WMD's, yellowcake, torture, Blackwater! The Rep. are pathetic!!!

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:50 PM EDT

                    Right on!

                      #14.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Same old Bu@!$%#es.  Doesn't anyone have any imagination?  Hold onto your wallet, if you got one left.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:14 PM EDT

                      From NBC First Read:

                      No President in more than 20 years,

                      "has had more foreign-policy successes happen under his watch than President obama"

                      The only reason for this is because the people who came BEFORE him laid the groundwork. If I plow a path through the woods and you follow, do you get all the credit for reaching the target? Of course not. I found a $100 bill. Does that make me a success? No. If I worked for the $100 bill I could of claimed credit for it. I was just in the right place at the right time. Same goes for obama.

                        Reply#16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:55 PM EDT

                        So Barb...Then that would mean that Ronnie Raygunz DID NOT win the Cold War and by your logic followed the path of previous administrations from Truman to Carter in developing sophisticated technologies that caused the Soviets to spend themselves into oblivion.

                        OK I understand completely now!

                        • 4 votes
                        #16.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM EDT

                        Your post makes no sense.

                          #16.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:11 PM EDT
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                          I thought that Romney was going to reduce the size of government....that list of advisers alone can fill another federal office building!

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

                          Sounds to me like Romney's measuring the drapes and picking out the china. This is exactly what even Repubs don't like about him.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#18 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:55 PM EDT

                          I know the Democrats find unbiased news boring, but if Obama had surrounded himself with people with experience and organization, he might have done a better job and brought the hope and change he promised.

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