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Subscribe to RSSPresident Barack Obama's announcement Friday that all U.S. troops would leave Iraq by the end of 2011 marks the fulfillment of a major political promise Obama had made on the 2008 campaign trail.
The president announced his decision at an early afternoon press conference at the White House. It's in keeping with the timeline Obama first established in early 2009, when he first laid out a timetable for withdrawal.
The announcement comes Friday with a great amount of political import, though. Obama is keeping a major campaign promise -- he noted as much in his very first sentence at his press conference -- and he is building on a string of recent foreign policy successes -- the death yesterday of Libya's Moammar Khaddafy, most recently -- going into a re-election battle in which a top issue, jobs and the economy, may end up being a vulnerability for the president.
"As a candidate for president, I planned to bring the war in Iraq to a responsible end," Obama said Friday at the White House. "After taking office, I announced a new strategy that would end our combat mission in Iraq and remove all troops by the end of 2011.
"So today, I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," the president continued. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over."
Those lines were promoted by Obama's campaign Twitter account, underscoring the cross-secting political and military undercurrents guiding today's announcement.
Obama's initial opposition to the war was one of the key parts of his record that propelled him past Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primary; in the general election, Obama had been pitted against Arizona Sen. John McCain, a top proponent of the war, and the subsequent "surge" of U.S. troops to help secure Iraq despite its destabilizing insurgency.
"The differences on Iraq in this campaign are deep. Unlike Senator John McCain, I opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and would end it as president," Obama wrote in a 2008 op-ed in the New York Times.
And for as much friendly fire that the president has taken from the left for unfinished campaign trail promises, Obama's move to withdraw troops marks a moment of deep satisfaction for his base, whom he's courting again heading into next fall's election.
It also helps burnish Obama's foreign policy credentials on top of a string of accomplishments this year. Khaddafy's death Thursday in Libya provided some measure of validation of the president's measured strategy toward the rebellion there. U.S. predator drones also managed to assassinate a major al-Qaeda figure, Anwar al-Awlaki, last month. And Obama's scored perhaps no greater achievement than the successful killing of Osama bin Laden earlier this year in Pakistan -- something to which Obama made reference Friday.
"I would note that the end of war in Iraq reflects a larger transition: the tide of war is receding," Obama said. "The drawdown in Iraq allowed us to focus our fight against al-Qaeda and achieve major victories against its leadership, including Osama bin Laden."
He noted the additional transition in Afghanistan in a move toward bringing troops home from that part of the world, too.
"When I took office, roughly 180,000 troops were deployed in both these wars. By the end of this year, that number will be cut in half," he said. "And make no mistake, it will continue to go down."
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President Obama has been 100% correct regarding Iraq from the very beginning!
Tell us again how he is soft on foreign policy?
Rough couple of days for the right wingers! lol
Not to worry, with the current cast of clowns you're auditioning as his replacement, things are only going to get worse... MUCH worse for you all!
Not to put too fine a point on this part of it, but now we should REALLY be able to credit the savings from Iraq to deficit reduction. Alternatively, that's money that can be repurposed elsewhere to save other things.
I give the President credit for keeping this promise, despite pressure from the Iraqi government, which wanted us to stay on, but I do wish he would now turn his full attention to getting us OUT of Afghanistan.
Even John McCain had a few nice words for President Obama last night.
Have no fear, though, the GOP Presidential nomination clown car will empty out today so the various floppy-shoe-shod characters can find something bad to say about the president's announcement.
Just how they can do so without also speaking ill of American military forces is beyond me. They'll weasel-word something, however.
I do have a suggestion for the White House, however. Can't they send some of those regiments to the Congress and have them ask, oh so politely, if they might have a jobs bill?
Breaking News:
Eric Cantor has suddenly canceled a speech planned for this afternoon at the University of Pennsylvania that was meant to lay out the GOP’s plans to address income inequality.
CNN is reporting that he canceled after the university decided to make the speech open to the public.
Oh Dear!
How dare the public hear what Cantor's latest scheme is... lol
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio
"CNN is reporting that he canceled after the university decided to make the speech open to the public".
don't you think they just don't want to wash their dirty toxic plan in the public.........you know, since they're ECO friendly.
Looks lke I may have to ammend this one I made on another thread earlier to include THIS news, also, huh":
"it's typical Bush/conservative tactics, attack and distract."
Get used to it. Especially after Lybia and the big vote yesterday.
Poor little Eric, whatever is he going to do? He will find out from now on, that the 'mob' will follow him everywhere. I suppose he'll next be claiming someone is firing something at his office! We all know how well his last attempt went at that claim.
Thank you Mr President for finishing the war in Iraq ......a great promise kept. You are doing a great job.
Obama/Biden 2012
Penn is private, right? Ivy League, in fact.
LoL The University probably figured out that his targeted crowd of young Pennsylvania Republicans wasn't really interested in hearing about "income inequality," and in order to get more than two people in the room, including Cantor's wife, they had to open it to the rabble.
A real "man of the people," our Eric Cantor.
The SOFA was put into place before long before, so good job following the plan I guess.
Actually this is another example of a lie during the campaign. Although one might say better late than never but one might also say Americans have been put in harm's way because he saw a political advantage by delaying the withdrawal.
In the Obama/Biden Blueprint for Change, you will see this and other unfulfilled promises -- lies. The promise was to be out by Summer 2010, but don't no one call his hand ya' hear.
http://campaign-promises.com/wp-content/uploads/obamablueprintforchange.pdf
Some things just go together: Mustard and hot dogs. Ice cream and cake. America and apple pie. Eric Cantor and PUNK.
Course, the real reason we are leaving is that the Iranian backed president refused to grant immunity to our troops. If that was not the case we would remain. Now, we have done the dirty work the Iranians couldn't do, and have opened the door for the Iranians to walk in.
LoL David. Look out for Bag Boy, who may be lurking.
John:
Not really. If you look at my post a few doors down, you'll find that as we leave, the contractors come in.
And we'll still be paying for it, no doubt.
By the way, who was it that opened the door for the Iranians to come into Iraq in the first place?
An agreement was broken by the University with no assurances of orderly control. No sense in putting oneself in front of a mob rule situation.
Look for the following announcement soon: Speaker of the House, John Boehner, today announced passage of the House Armed Services Appropriations Bill for 2011, following passage of three amendments, along party lines. The three amendments were as follows:
1.) The end the job killing stopping wars in Iraq and Afgahnistan Act, which prevents utilization of any funds appropriated to bring troops, equipment, supplies or support home from Iraq or Afghanistan.
2.) The end the job killing ObamaCare Act, which immediately overturns the Affordable Care Act.
3.) The end the job killing funding of abortion act, which makes it illegal for anyone to pay for an abortion in US dollars.
The appropriations bill is not expected to be approved in the Senate in its present form.
Ray,
Very poor excuse {period} !!!
Is Eric Cantor a public official? He was not elected by the private sector was he, why should an elected representative of the US be so secretive with the general public, he swore to serve.
On one hand you have a president who tried and has fulfilled many of his promises, and on the other hand you have Republicans who made one promise and have unanimously voted to break it. Obama has earned himself a very good chance at re-election, in spite of republicans best efforts to derail him. Republicans will have earned themselves a kick in the ass. Welcome to Waterloo Eric.
"Some things just go together: Mustard and hot dogs. Ice cream and cake. America and apple pie. Eric Cantor and PUNK."
Ray-4054460 and 'gratitude'.....
"Mob rule" at the Ivy League university? LoL You mean people who aren't wearing argyle socks?
Paranoia strikes deep, I guess. Wouldn't want to let the rabble get too close.
By the way -- did you see an advance copy of the speech or something? I mean, what exactly would Cantor be saying about addressing "income inequality" that would upset the rabble, anyway?
Ray,
Why should he be scared of MOBS when he, Cantor, chairs the TP MOB in the Congress? That's a lame excuse from you.
Ray, whats a matter , afraid Cantor might actually have to answer an intelligent question for once and give that answer in front of everyone istead of behind closed doors
Thank you President Obama!
...now let the whinning begin from the TeaPeople...
The TeaPeople don't mind 'sticking' the American People with the bill for unfunded wars, but to fund a bill to put teachers and first responders back to work.....NO!
This is just too much for the TeaPeople in Congress to digest in one week...Khadaffy killed (by his own countrymen)....and now WE are OUT of Iraq!
What will happen to all the DOD contractors who have made mega millions at the expense of the American People in the unfunded wars....hopefully, the contracts are cancelled since the job ended!
Give 'em hell Barry!
This is a quote from USA Today talking about the agreement between Iraq and the United States in late 2008. The President at that time? George Bush.
Dont get me wrong, I am glad they are coming home...but lets not get too crazy. In fact, had Iraq softened their view on prosecution of U.S. Service Members, this announcement would not have been made because thousands would have stayed.
Dennis & PEN -- You two are -- well I can't say it because of the COH here. If you don't understand why a person would not want to put his or herself in front of an unruly audience without protection, then there is no hope for you. Would you expect Obama to face the Tea Party folks without SS? It is ignorant to call a faction of Congress a mob. You guys are too sad for words.
@Anthony -- It was not to be an "open public" forum that was the agreement. Never said anything about not having press present. Do you advocate breaking agreements/contracts? Also only a fool would think that he would be able to answer a question without being interrupted. It would be a circus and you know that -- but you are probably a fan of The Springer Show and Jersey Shore that have audiences of people with IQs in the minus range.
" I promised to bring the war to a responsible end", eerily similar to " I have brought us peace in our time", spoken by another equally eerily similar politician, anyway it sure is good to know the Islamic radicals will now just stop , go home, and leave us alone! What a Guy!
Yea, Give 'em hell Barry! And, while your at it explain SOLYNDRA,535 MILLION, and your cronnie money bundlers, SUNPOWER, 1.2 BILLION, and Nancy's brother in law, The Swedish electric car company and their 550 million gift. (wonder who the connection was with them ) and, how many more GREEN SCAM LOANS ARE OUT THERE! Yea, give em hell and THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS!
SPIN!
Only because he is looking to get re-elected, now if he would consider telling Karzi (sp) to stick it where the sun don't shine and get out of there we could start a war with Iran, think that's not going to happen think again.
Ray,
It was NOT lack of security it was lack of guts !!!
Dennis -- I learned at an early age some 50 years ago when I entered into the martial arts that although I could defend myself in most situations, it was foolish to put myself in those situations if I knew of it beforehand. If you know there is going to be trouble, you stay away. To walk away from a fight is the sign of intelligence. To put yourself in the middle of a fight is the sign of ignorance. Go peddle your playground mentality somewhere else.
I'm not sure what a cancelled Eric Cantor speech has to do with bringing Iraq troops home. Oh well whatever floats the boat I guess. For the record I'm thrilled but please.... this was something pre ordained after the "surge" success put forth by the commanders in the field and the "ok" given by the previous administration. Obama had zero to do with it other than picking up the phone.
But hey go ahead - waive the flag! It's a good day.
Way to go President Obama!!
Thank you....
Obama 2012
hey quick, we need to concoct a conspiracy theory to say that Obama is Muslim and that he is killing these evil Muslim dictators, because of a secret plan that...well then would allow for, uhh, other Muslim leaders to come in and, uhhh possibly want to work with him and US and, uhhh try to promote "Peace in the Middle East".... yikes, that's no good, scratch that, ....back to square one, get Rush on the line.
Thank you, Mr. President, a job well done and long overdue. A special thanks to all the troops and their families, for all they lost and gave up to keep us safe. Now let's get this country moving forward, let's get rid of a congress, who is only interested in their survival, and a bunch of bird brains running for Republican president-Bird brains-Cain, Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Paul, Gingrich and the other 2. Americans are hurting and need real solutions, cooperation, and a plan. A Congress that works, not bicker, and grand stand..we are tired of them. Mr. President, I urge you to by pass them completely and just issue Executive Orders..they are doing nothing and need to be recalled. Half can barely spell their own names and I wonder who voted them into office. I could go on, but thanks again, my family is happy!
@John - if your going to do an off-topic rant, at least get your accusations in the ballpark: Fisker Automotive manufacturing will occur in Finland, not Sweden. Note that was always their plan - no surprises there since they were planning to reuse the manufacturing facility that builds the Porsche Cayman and Boxster. The company is still American, with engineering and management in California.
Those mobs as some like to call them are American citizens, you would think an elected official with as a position like Cantor's would want to address their concerns, instead of hide from them. You think all the young Republicans are proud of, and want to vote for a run for cover wussie like Cantor. Ha it's beautiful, it's only fair, there is a God, Cantor and his buddies wanted to muck up everything as much as possible, they said "we will break him", "we will make this his Waterloo", they were talking about the President of our United States, the United States of America they swore to serve, now they got what they wanted, but Obama is out talking about it everyday (as he should be), and Cantor is afraid to come outside and play. They deserve what they get, and we have a patriotic duty to give the whole bunch a kick in the ass next November for always, relentlessly, and unanimously playing politics instead of even attempting to fairly and honestly do their jobs and help reasonably govern a nation at war, and with an ever growing population in dire economic straights. Welcome to Waterloo Eric, is it as nice as you thought it would be. It's kind of scary to run your mouth until you actually get yourself into a fist fight isn't it, I'll give you some free advice, it's better to stand there and take your lumps if you have them coming, because if you run away you are just a big wussy, and nobody picks the biggest loud mouth turned wussy in the crew to be their leader. You better face your own music or this will be your Waterloo.
Eric Cantor has declared himself a Corporation. he will set up his headquarters in the Cayman Islands.
Good for the President. Remove the troops from Iraq since we are low on staffing for Africa. Is this the next phase in the plan?
Yes, the President has gotten rid of a dictator, but wasn't it a NATO operation?
I doubt the funding from this war will be removed due to the possible entry into the African campaign. This President isn't that far removed from Bush. Meanwhile, what happens in Iraq without US intervention? Probably another Vietnam after the pullout.
We shouldn't be the world's policeman.
"...why a person would not want to put his or herself in front of an unruly audience without protection,..."
SO, then, this 'unruly audience' was in place already, even though the event was scheduled for later in the day? Please share with us some of the u-tube photos of these unruly idiots, and what some of them looked like, wouldja, there, Ray? They don't sound like they were being very nice.
In the future, that is..
Oh, and by the way- If Cantor doesn't change his ways and damn soon, he's gonna find out exactly what a truly 'unruly' bunch of folks looks like.
Did anyone bother to read that Obama was negotiating to have 5,000 troops stay there but was rejected?
@DBO -- I think underlying threats are not permitted on here.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66568.html#ixzz1bRixDr9J
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66568.html#ixzz1bRiYlG00
Cantor is doing no different than the Democrats do...and it is not being held from the public, are you trying to tell me that this was not going to be taped and replayed on T.V.?
Off course it was a NATO mission, that was the beauty of it. Do you think if it went badly the fact that it was a NATO mission would have stopped Republicans from completely blaming Obama for the whole thing
The University obviously did not anticipate a "fight," did it?
The only "fight" anticipated by anyone would have been the one anticipated in Cantor's mind.
And yours.
Paranoia if ever I've seen it.
But I still want to know what you think there would have been in Cantor's speech to "fight" about.
After all, isn't he the new champion of income equality? Wouldn't the crowd have LOVED him?
Or don't you think he means it?
Me, either.
Ray, Thanks for the excerpt!
So Eric Cantor was invited to speak at WHARTON SCHOOL of BUSINESS, located at Univ of Penn. And give a talk about income disparity . I also heard a report on CNN earlier this week that he would also talk about "income mobility" whatever that is.
Eric got nervous that three hundred folks would not be MBA graduate students, so He cancelled. LOL
Eric, you can run but you cannot hide. The 99% are everywhere.....
David Walker:
I have to take issue with you on this one, David. It was pre-ordained, all right, but only because, during the campaign, then-candidate Obama proposed a troop withdrawal deadline of 16 months after taking office. Bomb, Bomb, Bomber McCain balked at the idea of a deadline for withdrawal, and so did Bush, but Iraqi president Maliki said, "sounds good to me," so Bush made the security agreement deal in order to pre-empt the issue and help out McCain, with whom he and Dick Cheney had earlier made a deal that ultimately sealed McCain's candidacy.
The first part is well-documented. For example:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566841,00.html
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/432338.aspx
The second part, about the deal between Bush and McCain, I surmised from a lunch meeting they had at the White House, from which McCain came out looking dazed and confused, and after which McCain's road to the nomination was essentially -- and mysteriously -- unimpeded.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120472843939713695.html
Anna Molly:
I didn't write that. I fear you have the wrong guy. (It was David lotsanumbers) Strangely that little "surge" thing caught my eye too, but I didn't feel like responding. I don't mean to poo-poo the operation because those were soldiers after all. But the surge was actually no more than putting a superior number of troops on the battlefield - such as it was. Hardly a military stroke of genius - it was more along the lines of might makes right.
What you have there is another right-wing pretzel who would demand a flight plan if President Obama floated through the air. I mean, what's he done besides destroy al-Qaeda, kill three top terrorists, "lead from behind" with no loss of American life in liberated Libya, and get the hell out of Iraq. I mean he's just such a wimp and a total failure in the foreign affairs arena.
By the way, Mixed Bag is Nixed Bag. The ignore button is wonderful.
Keep the reports coming on Gov. Walker. He really is a genuine cheese head isn't he? Nothing but cheese between his ears. BUT.....lots and lots and lots of jobs. What a guy.
President Bush made the agreement with the Iraqi's that America would be out by the end of 2011....isn't it cool?...kinda grabs a libbie by the poo-poo
"On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country."
Good show Harry. Looks like you shut the feisty old lesbo up! Maybe she'll wait a bit longer before posting the next time as the facts are pretty obvious now. then again, based on her previous misguided posts, I don't think she's capable of shutting her trap for long (that probalby goes for grabbing another donut also based on how I picture the big gal!).
This is the BEST rebuttal you can come up with J.H. Moore?
Since I'm feeling generous this evening, I would suggest U put down the drink and get back to us in the morning...
Otherwise - you come across as nothing more then a right wing troll..,
I DO however, want to thank YOU for playing! LOL
In the meantime - wrap up your bull@!$%# cause you are only making a mess around here!
Can I GET a clean-up on aisle nine! LMFAO!
Read the headline, here is my post. I like our military boots in the middle east. Leaving a lie of a war is aok with me also. Believe...sometime in the future our boots will be called on again. Hopefully not. The region is so unpredictable. Our boots could be called upon DAYS FROM NOW because of something "over there". Sure makes you think what is next for Iraq. Pray those souls can make a go of it. Otherwise, could be a terrrible ending worse than bringing troops home. Regionally and strategically is nice having power on both sides of Iran. Just saying. Bring em home and love em for all your worth. My son served in Iraq.
Where are you libs now that we've found out that MSNBC conveniently omitted the facts about the SOFA that was already in place in 2008?
Come on big gal, let's talk facts and not fiction.......waiting.......waiting....hmmm... guess she couldn't break away from the all you can eat buffet!
Only 2 years late and watch the waffle before it is done.
Congratulations President Bush for setting the exit strategy, and Congratulations President Obama for following the Bush timetable.
And most of all, congratulations to our troops, we look forward to welcoming you home.
Not a word from you blame everything on Bush lefties, as you know this was Bush's plan. Your stooge gets credit only for following the plan the grown ups put in place before the con-man Obama took office.
All you liberals need to stop puffing your chests and understand why he is really pulling the troops out. It is not because of a campaign promise. This is because the Iraq government would not allow the US military to adjudicate any wrongdoings by any of the 10 - 15,000 soldiers left behind after the end of the year. The Iraq government wanted the right to put on trial, any soldier accused of wrongdoing. The US and obama would not support this. I agree 100% with this decision. So please, quite puffing and bragging. However, also remeber what is happening in Egypt and will probably happen in Libya. The government in Egypt does not have enough power to put off Al qaeda and feel very threatened. That is why you are seeing 10% of the population of Coptic Christians being brutalized and raped by the majority of muslims. The government is almost helpless and they are also going after the Christians. You may not like Mubarak, but he kept this from happening. Do not be surprised that within a year of us leaving Iraq, that Iran tries to push their influence in to the country. Libya may end up the same way. As brutal as some the people are, the alternative may not be as good.
This is TOO funny.
All Obama did was to adhere to the agreement that Bush made with Iraq to bring all troops home by the end of 2011.
The funny thing is that Obama actually tried to make an agreement with Iraq to change the agreement that Bush made, but the Iraqis refused.
Now msnbc is trying to 'praise' Obama for doing nothing, and failing in his attempt to do something that would have violated his campaign pledge.
Too funny.
Faux Feisty aka penguin boy is back.
Tick Tock
dontgivemethepenguinisback "100% correct? Did he not vote for invading?"
If you're talking about Obama - No, he did not vote for invading. He was not even in the Senate, so he could not have voted. I understand that he personally opposed the invasion, but that was likely because one of his friends and strongest supporters was Louis Farrakhan, the most prominent anti-Jewish Muslim leader in America.
On November 17 2008 this agreement was signed by the US Ambassador & Iraqi Foreign Minister. My memory is not as good as it once was but I believe President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009. Hence this agreement was negotiated and signed while Bush was President. How does Obama get any credit for this beyond agreeing to follow a treaty that was already in place?
Huh? So, this is unbiased reporting? Obama claims victory and the reporter reinforces it? No mention that this time-table was forged under Bush. No mention, that by all accounts - Obama's and Al Maliki's, that Obama was actively seeking to keep a significant number of troops in Iraq for training purposes long after this deadline; the only reason things changed was because Iraq refused to provide immunity to soldiers. Now, Obama does deserve some credit for adhering to the plan up until the talks on extending; making the deadline acheivable. However, if I inherited a product development plan, carried out the plan to the letter, tried to make changes to the plan at the last minute but was unable because some of the suppliers balked on my changes, no one in their right mind would give me all that much credit for any success. He practically stumbled into achieving his "promise". At least it isn't like the "affordable health care coverage for all" that turned into unaffordable health care for some. This is why our politicians do the things they do. They take a leak down our back, tell us it's raining, and we celebrate the end to draught conditions.
true that PaulF...I can't fault BO for following through
Not to mention that his campaign promise was to bring them back during his first year in office. Yup, a TOTAL failure there....
Plus, he is lying, the real reason the troops are doming home is because Iraq wants them out, they're sick of us being there.
This is nothing more than a propaganda article that has few facts. Bush negotiated and signed the document setting the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq. Obama was in negotiations trying to get some to stay! Obama promised a full pull out in the first year of office, but now we are nearly 3 years in and they are still there. The savings from Iraq isn't going to go to deficit reduction, it simply won't suck up deficit funds from other social programs Obama is trying to push through.
Ray,
RE: your post #1.10
Obama has said since 2009 that ALL American Troops would be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. YOU, my friend, should read some RELIABLE sources instead of the bogus web site you directed us to. This is a right-wing rag and nothing more. How about quoting some main stream news organizations (cnn, NBC, CBS, FOX NEWS, etc.), like below!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/washington/28troops.html
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/04/05/brief-look-candidate-obamas-2008-campaign-promises
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/01/19/133034979/obama-kept-many-campaign-promises-but-now-faces-gop-wall
Republicans have a consistent way of telling HALF the truth!
nice try scamsomething...but failz
Harry Blank,
Then you would like to show me some RELIABLE citations????? NO? CAN'T? WON'T? Your all 'hat' and NO cattle! Sorry!
hahaha
New York Times ...liberal fish wrap
NPR....liberal public fund thieves
hmmm...let's try the liberal favorite gospel...Wikipedia , you guys love them
"On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country."
ouch...isn't it cool?
CBS , ABC , CNN , MSN , all liberal shill "news" outfits
again , nice try but weak at best
President Barack Hussein Obama . . . just has a ring to it! :o)
"President Barack Hussein Obama . . . just has a ring to it! :o)"
Yea and Verily it does, Nash- but to the right, he'll always be just regular old 'anointed one'.
Yes Nash, he continues to ring the bell and all the GOP/TP can do is stand covering their ears (i can't hear youuu, i caaan't heeear yooooou)....pathetic.
Nashville,
Dont worry, even after he is thrown out of office after this next election he still gets to keep the title.
I have tinnitus. I don't like the sound of that ringing either.
ROFL, he said 100 days during his campaign. I guess 500 days later is close, LOL!
Obama promised to fail at negotiating to keep our troops their longer, thereby having Iraq kick us out?
Funny, I don't recall that speech.
Leave it to Liberals to pretend that failing at negotiating was actually a "campaign promise".
And leave it to Dem sheep to swallow it despite knowing they are being lied to.
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
SOLYNDRA!
GunRunner!!
Boo Hoo!
Medicare privatization.
Deregulation of air and water.
Tax cuts for millionaires.
Boo Hoo !
Don't forget SUNPOWER @ 1.2 billion! Also, don't forget BHO's left hand man good ole HARRY REID saying that the public employees are suffering more than the private sector. All this when the richest area in the USA is Washington DC with an average salary of $126,000.00 vs 50,000. for the private sector. This typical democrit has not one clue as to the damage that has been done over the last three yrs.
Solandra is distressing; but, it is only one of other successful programs. I could point to many failed Republican plans and promises. Leave No Child Behind .................
Huh? I must have missed it but clue me in on the "other successful green programs" Please don't say Chevy Volt either.
Experienced-1110305 -
In fact, at Solyndra, you can point to the G.W. Bush Administration, which finally changed the rules governing the grants so that the company, which previously had failed to qualify, could receive the money. It took another two months, by which time the Obama Administration was in place, for the personnel in the granting agency to complete delivery of the funding approval after being pushed extremely hard by Bush's crowd.
No Child Left Behind was Ted Kennedy's baby. Do some research.
@John A -- you are lying. period. you are stretching a ridiculous notion to the outer limits of stupid. Like what John says below.
Experienced. Wrong! The Bush adm tabled the loan after it was reveiled the company was weak and probably not able to pay back the loan. After BHO came in power it was fast tracked within six days and not even reviewed. This was done just to get the photo op done in time. Nice try though! What about Sunpower 1.2 billion???
Right wind pretenders ain't no equal to this able President, Obama. They're so mesmerized by his potent skills that all they do is blab blab and drool. Would they ever acknowledge that.......Naaaa.
Yep, he's the slickest Chicago crook money can buy!
How can he be a Chicago crook? I thought he wasn't an American...
Pen, Wingnuts aren't mesmerized per se, they just can't keep up. They are a one-trick pony - just say "no". While Obama is killing Bin Laden, or rescuing the economy, or trying to get health care for all, or revamping our financial system, etc., Repugnants do nothing but scratch their heads, mumble something about "jobs" and then just blurt out "no". Obama runs circles around them. Once they think they have the upper hand with their obstructionism, Obama's already succeeded and moved onto something else. They sit there, well, stunned, and like you say, blabbing and drooling.
There are plenty of illegals in Chicago! Along with the union cronnies.
funny you call him a crook, where was your running mouth with Chenney and Haliburtion ????? suppose all that was on the up and up to you which would explain much with your teagagger logic........
So, just who do you think we hire to do all our "little dirty work"? Look, Anthony, this is not Solyndra, Sunpower, A GM or Chrysler bailout, or a swedish electric car company loan. This is the dirt work no one wants to do except cos like haliburton. You need to back away from the koolaid BHO is serving, bigtime!
Isn't Al Gore heavily invested in that Swedish electric car company? Talk about crony capitalism. I think this administration has re-defined it in spades.
Obama is so desperate for a second term it's amusing. He is only doing this in time for the election and the obots are such tools they can't see it. He is a failure and no amount of money will buy the election again. One and done!
Obama promised to fail at negotiating to keep our troops there longer, thereby having Iraq kick us out?
Funny, I don't recall that speech.
Oh boy there is no end to his desperation he is making up things now he could not do it in four years now he will do it is 3 months. Priceless.
Umm, prolly might wish to consider revising your screen name. "Thinking" seems somewhat .... well, not necessarily suitable.
The deadline for this pull-out was set in 2008. The President was willing to consider requests from the Iraqi government for some small remaining training force, but proper terms and conditions were not reached. The U.S. has been steadily withdrawing forces from Iraq.
And oh, by the way, the President has been in office for less than three years.
But you probably get paid by the post, no matter what inanity it is, as long as it's un-thinking bashing of the President.
It must irk you pretend patriots that Obama is fulfilling a campaign promise while doing something Bush could not. Same with binladin. He got the job done in less time.
Too bad for the Party Boy Fanboys.
there is no end to his desperation he is making up things now he could not do it in four years now he will do it is 3 months. Priceless.
President Obama did not say that he was to withdrew the troops immediately. He ALWAYS said that he was going to do it on due time.
After the death of 2 of the major Middle Eastern dictators, he is now taking that decision.
What DESPERATION are you talking about? You must be talking about the DESPERATION of the Republicans to spin this one in a negative light, to elect a dumbass Texan or a rich Wall Street job killer for the Presidency.
"What DESPERATION are you talking about?"
Perhaps the abysmal poll numbers that show him losing to any "unnamed republican"? Or maybe his inability to ram his latest stimulus spending bill through his own party's Senate?
I am a disabled veteran with psych and physical ailments from my military accomplishments between 1990-1993. I don'tpromote or DEMOTE political campaigners but I can tell you I was on 7 psych medications and chose to stop taking them over a year ago. I have a service dog (MARLEY) she helps with my anxiety levels but without me using “Black-market” marijuana its harder for me to control, without marijuana the ARTHRITIS in my back would be more painful. I have a young friend of mine who is diagnosed with MS (multiple sclerosis) he too benefits from the effects. I say to you the readers KNOW-THE-FACTS…..If it’s legalized it too would stimulate the economy by shutting down unneeded prisons and government spending on prison guards , low-level law officials and programs like” NARK” and “DARE” that eat at local community budgets(This would put the MONEY back where it came from Social Security, Healthcare and WEL-FARE). These are local programs formed by the government under the “war on Drugs” with money bribes to your local politicians. why do you think we all want to know now “WHERE DID THE MONEY GO ?”How about the $$Billions The IRS pays out to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS under the ACTC (addition child Tax Credit) , ITINs (Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers) have become increasingly linked to fraudulent tax claims which is said to be over $$ 4 Billion a year.It’s hard for me to believe the Agency LACKS the legal authority to challenge such tax returns!The budgets are done every year the money is hidden in programs!!!Have we forgotten we gave IRAQ “GRANTS” to rebuild not LOANS ? How about the tsunami $$ to Japan to rebuild or to Indonesia to rebuild OR HAITI after their earthquake to rebuild ? I have an IDEA use US tax dollars to help the US TAX PAYER……….The sad part is we the people didn’t vote for that congress did for us. when we have a crisis we don’t have the money . Not to mention the new STATE “regulation” on pain medication means I now have to drive to my doctors once a month instead of once-every 3. The raise they are considering for SSDI is a joke compared the the gas$ increases over the past 3yrs. WE keep writing laws that keep LOW-income, LOW-income. wall-street has the gas market cornered their job is to make their investors money, it’s congress that’s spending our money and draining the purse not WALL street. Try sleeping at night knowing the country i was injured protecting is the same country I’m now fighting to legalize an” alleviation” from my symptoms.”Follow ME I’m The Infantry" !!”
James, as a fellow Vet I comment you for your service to our country. And, yes, I agree with you that Pot should have been legalized yrs ago. Now, in the latest survey over 50% agree. We could and should make it legal, tax it some and use that money to secure our southern border.
I am glad you are speaking up James. I work to support legislation and funding(- if unfunded there will be no change) of military health, education, and other benefits. And, yes, legalize marijuana and tax it. I pay taxes on my other prescription and over-the-counter drugs.
I wish to pass on to you a tip about the arthritis pain that I have found works for me; and after discussing it with three different doctors they have agreed that many patients have told them the same. I am not a doctor; so of course, check with your doctor to see there are no medical conflicts.
Take 1/4 teaspoon of Tumeric(a spice) coupled with several shakes of black pepper (it helps the body assimulate the Tumeric). I take this in low-sodium v-8 juice or Trader Joe's low-sodium garden patch; but, you could take it in any juice you prefer.
I used to have to take 2- 650mg Tylenol for arthritis every day. I haven't had to take Tylenol for months now almost a year. After taking tumeric for a while one may increase the amount, if needed, to 1/2 teaspoon. How it works is by reducing inflamation.
Good luck to you and good health to all our returning vets. My husband was a Marine, my brother, Army, and many extended members of family have served. A cousin was on the Arizona.
I have been through the first Depression and all since. I support the Occupy Wall Street movement.
We need to publicly fund elections and get the money and influence out of it. One person, one vote. It would only cost about $6 per person a year!! Don't you think corporations and utilities, banks and financial institutions are stealing more than that out of our back pockets? It would return our legislators to representing us.
Experienced, you do remember the last election in which both Cain and BHO agreed to accept only public money and then BHO backed out at the last minute? But, I agree with you we should legalize pot, Its stupid to fight a failed drug war that has lasted over 50 years, cost 2 TRILLION DOLLARS, and saw drug usage go up by 2800%. THIS WAR IS LOST! Its time to try something else, starting with legal pot.
I take five capsules a day of turmeric (two in the morning, three at night, always with food), and it helps my hip arthritis immensely - if I skip it for a week (forgot to go shopping) I hurt a _lot_. Then it takes about a week at the usual dose to get back mostly painfree. It's also good for the heart and circulation, too. It couldn't hurt to give it a try, and most bigger grocery stores carry it, and you can buy the capsules (a lot cheaper even with shipping) online.
It took Pres Obama's policies/strategies that helped to get rid of BinLadden and yesterday to help get rid of Khadaffi and today to announce that all US troops will be out of Iraq by year's end. These repug teabaggers must be peeing in their teabags!! These braindead teabaggers will never be able to bring themsvels to give the credit that Pres Obama is rightfully due.
He's like a god to me. His policies and strategies are from a different level; a higher consciousness that can only be transcended by a chosen few in this world. The thing is, I too come from a different level and a higher consciousness, therefore I don't believe in god. Every decision he has made is the right one. Who else on this planet can say that? Got anymore of that peyote?
Well, i guess he could have said "ALLEY AKBAR"!
neastsider, they are actually trying to concoct a conspiracy theory that he is killing these Muslims evil dictators, because he is Muslim and...well then that would allow for, uhh other Muslim leaders to come in and, uhhh possibly elect him President of the United Muslim countries....YEAHHH that's it. (nodding head)
oohh, I better call Rush to verify this.
No, its BHO peeing on your back and telling you its raining. And, you believe him!
geez neastsider, are you still waiting for your check from doughbama?
Obama is once again taking credit that isn't rightfully his. Got to love it!
It's nice to have a president who can not only put a sentence together, but also is a chess player with regard to foreign policy. He's always several steps ahead. Bush, the Garbler in Chief, couldn't even manage checkers. He played foreign policy tiddly winks.
Shan - "He's always several steps ahead."
Yes, spending months trying to keep troops in Iraq only to fail is really "steps ahead". HaHa.
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
Awesome.
I am so pleased by this news!
And what a stark contrast it illuminates as to how the Obama Administration handled Libya vs. the Cheney/Bush travesty in Iraq.
You're pleased that Obama failed at extending our troop presence in Iraq? If you are pleased that our troops are returning doesn't it concern why Obama wanted them to stay?
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
Once again, Obama proves what a weak and sad little man he is. Worst president in thirty years.
in what way?
Coveniently pulling out of an unresolved military conflict when his public opinion polls are alarmingly low in an obvious ploy to distract from his failed domestic policies.
right....the man who actually started the war gets higher praise from you....you expect anyone to take you seriously?!
You drank yourself stupid on the Neo Con, socialist Right wing Cool Aid.
Obama pulled out of the war and "honored" his campaign promise (as the grossly biased MSNBC headline states) at the tail-end of his first (and hopefully only) term, when he could have easily done the same months, if not years ago. But to do so now when public opinion is largely against his presidency and the economy is still struggling is an obvious attempt to curry favor rather than do what's best from a policy standpoint. It's a disgusting move from a reprehensible person.
As to your question, I don't expect anything. People can take me seriously or not...it doesn't really matter to me. If you don't take my posts seriously, then stop responding.
Or to do what is right. Bet that never occurred to you.
If he was just doing "what was right" why wait until now when his approval ratings are low and he's gearing up his reelection campaign?
whatever, KOA. grasping at straws. how about the fact that we can soon save all that money that we have been throwing away in Iraq. should help the bottom line. doesn't he deserve credit for being more fiscally responsible than the party that started the war?
What a load. Typical of a Reich-wing troll.
Just like McCain, would love for us to be in there 100 years! LOL!
Fiscally responsible? He's spending us into oblivion. Even if you factor in the savings from the Iraq War, he's still done nothing to create jobs and stimulate the economy. This latest flimsy attempt at misdirection is simply another ploy to gloss over his abysmal economic policies.
I didn't know Hannity posted on here with the rest of us.
(but then again, I never knew he went by 'KingofAll', either...)
I'd employ your tactic and call you Olbermann, but that's a greater insult than I'd wish on anyone.
Kingof All: Does it mean nothing to you that he is following the time table that was set up prior to him taking office? Which was all pull out by 12/31/2011. Iraq don't want us there, they have asked us to stay, but will not give us immunity, so we are following the pull out agreement. What is with you anyway?
Speaking of spending, KOA, none other than Republican Senator Lindsey Graham was out this morning saying we should immediately begin spending billions and billions of dollars towards helping rebuild Libya's infrastructure. Why? Because there is oil there. Yet try to spend that money on teachers and firefighters and roads and bridges in the United States, and the Republicans provide a resounding NO.
Tell me again who the spenders are here? Tell me again who is looking out for American citizens?
drive-by-observer - I am fairly convinced you are Nannity. Your mis-direction doesn't work with me!
how long will it take cheney, rumsfeld, etal to show looking for a pat on the back for ending the warÂ
Politically considered, the President should have waited to announce the full withdrawal of troops until the 'halo effect' of Ghaddafi's death passed. I'm suprised Plouffe and company did not suggest this. Obama often fails to wring maximum advantage from his accomplishments.
Considering that Bush set the original deadline and Obama was trying to extend it but failed, yes it is effectively Bush who bought the troops home.
Nothing stops con-man Obama from turning an utter failure into campaign rhetoric though.
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
I want the troops home just as badly as anyone else. I have lost friends to the war, killed way too young. My own son will be joining the Marines in the next 2 years. However, I am VERY concerned about the power vaccum that will be left when we leave. I didn't vote for Obama, 2012 is still a year away, but I really think this is a poor decision on his part and not in the best interest of the country. Do I want them home? Absolutely! Do I think the timing is poor? Absolutely.
NCGirl: Do you still want our troops there if they are under the Iraqi laws and would be tried in the Iraqi courts for anything the Iraqi's thought might be illegal in the war sense. Do you really want that?
What exactly do you plan on doing in Iraq that would be different if we left 10 years from now? Let's decimate America to make sure Iraq is okay. The republicans think they can always kill social security and raise taxes on the poor to pay for the war to continue. Iraq is important, but America not so much is the only argument I hear for staying in Iraq.
The major point is that the Iraq people wanted us out. So we have been working towards leaving for at least a couple years now. All the while the people of Iraq could have changed their mind and ask us to stay and they didn't.
I realize that republicans don't believe in listening to the people. Maybe you wouldn't need so much voter suppression if you actually listened to the people?
NCGirl, maybe an unfair question, but do you think the war was and still is worth your son going?
My opinion: A big fat NO. Bring our kids home. Don't send more.
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I was never a "big fan" of GWB, but it is fair to mention "which U.S. President outlined and DIRECTED the pullout timetable for Iraq?
Just an FYI... for the record, it was BUSH who did that... uh, BEFORE Obama came in to office?
Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw "no later than December 31, 2011."
On November 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed a Security Agreement, often referred to as a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), stating that "All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011." The agreement also called for all U.S. combat forces to withdraw from Iraqi cities "no later than June 30, 2009."
[U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement, 11/17/08]
Speedy, Palm Harbor, Florida
Come on. You know if Bush were still in office he would have found a way to screw up leaving Iraq.
He wouldn't leave, why turn off the money faucet. So many have profited.
So Obama is following the agreement, so why is so many down on him for honoring the agreement?
Of course I am referring to Bush...
Let me see, I believe it was the Iraqi government that refused to go along with the Obama Administration's request to keep our forces in Iraq past the end of this year. Had the Iraqi government agreed with the Obama Administration then we would still be keeping several thousand troops in Iraq.
As pointed out many times, it was the Bush Administration that approved the Dec 31, 11 pull out of all American troops.
Amy - "You know if Bush were still in office he would have found a way to screw up leaving Iraq."
So you admit that Obama is a "screw up" since keeping us in Iraq is exactly what he was trying to do?
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
Another example of Obama cleaning up the mess left by Bush.
On to the next.
What about Guantanamo Bay? That was his only real campaign promise that he could have kept, since the rest were put in motion by the previous administration.
I will give Obama credit for leadership only when he closes Guantanamo Bay. Period.
yea and im sure mr Obama is doing all he can to do so just to get you to give him credit......time to put your pipe down Jr..............cause you deperately grasping for straws and it couldnt show more
And when he closes Guantanamo Bay you won't give him credit until he gets unemployment back to 8%, and so on and so on. You can criticize him for Gitmo, I think it's fair, but no one should deny credit for getting Khaddafy, Bin Laden, etc.
Dear Multiple, You might not have realized it but Obama is a President of a free country and not a king or dictator.
The congress you know the ones we elect voted to keep GITMO open. So how exactly is President Obama to close GITMO while republicans are fighting to keep it open?
I get it, not a word about the republicans that are keeping it open, just your faux blame all laid at the feet of our president.
American, so where were all the democrits during the first two yrs of BHO's term in which the dems had control of congress, the senate, and the whitehouse? They could have rammed anything thru they desired. I guess after all the outrage of the sleaze of OBAMACARE they decided to cool it for awhile.
John you have just repeated a most popular republican lie. The one about being in control of congress, but you seem to forget about the filibusters in the senate. The first two years of the Obama presidency the republican had the most filibusters in our history.
If you need to lie to yourself fine, just don't lie to me and expect me to believe it.
Another purely political move. He would withdraw even if it meant Iraq would go back to a terrorist haven. Everything he does is for re-election. How about a one term limit on President?
What about the one term limit for the congress? They are the one who has been limiting the economic progress for this country. Thought?
Your drunk on the Kool aid of Right wing socialist propaganda also.
Patariotfaf: So you are saying he should not have honored the agreement that Bush made with the Iraqi people. To pull out by 12/31/2011? Is that what you're saying???
Actually Iraq was not a terrorist haven until we invaded it. Saddam did not like challenges to his power.
Wow. A politician who keep his promise? What a refreshing idea.. Awesome job Mr. President. Keep up the good work. Now lets concentrate on getting this country back on its track and don't let those crazies get away with their craziness. ( I believe you don't but I just have to say it) :-)
Correct you are "Dude" he has kept his promise to all the union cronnies, Govt employees (that has an average salary over twice that of the private sector, poor ole Harry Reid caught in another lie) And, he has created all those shoval ready jobs. Well they are actually "Golden shoval ready jobs" but hey, can't keep all your promises, so, keep the ones to those that has padded your pockets.
Every survey I have seen shows Public sector jobs pay about the same as Private sector jobs.
West Dude -- You sheep will believe anything, you think he actually "kept a promise"? He was trying to keep troops in Iraq longer, he just failed at it.
With you sheep it is no wonder he feels bold enough to lie to your faces.
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
The idiot Bush and Cheney (Darth Vader) put us in this position. Obama is simply cleaning up their mess. I will never forget the damage that the Republican Right has done to our men and women and their families in the military. They should be scorned at a public viewing. We were far worse off in the world with 8 terrible years of Bush. Who on earth would want more of the same demonic crap from the current circus of Right wingers today?
the right-wing creates wars (deaths, injured soldiers), massive debt, horrible economy. Yet they blame Obama.
Classic stupidity.
Amazing that people are so blindly partisan that they call this a political move.
Guess what.....If a president does something good for the country people will vote him back in.
DUH!
Obviously Obama didn't think our leaving was "good", which is why he was trying to have us stay.
"it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms... disagreements about legal protection for U.S. soldiers scuttled months of negotiations to keep American troops in Iraq beyond this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TqRuz3KOeMs
Now that Khaddafy is dead and all troops are coming home from Iraq, and all the sucess, can he do something about the NBA lock out. maybe slap around the union on there crazy demand to have a 57-43 split with the owner.
if he can do that, then he has my vote for 2012.
But Jeff, that would make you wanting the government to step in on private business. I thought you were all against that.???? What's up with that??
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But Jeff, that would make you wanting the government to step in on private business. I thought you were all against that.???? What's up with that??
The economic down fall if the NBA does not play this season would be tragic, for the venders, employees that depend on the NBA to put food on the table(Not the players)
The first read thread is pretty funny. How is it that Fiesty Redhead is always first in line? Does she work for MSNBC. This is definately a left wing thread.
As an independent it is my vote the candidates are after. Both the people on this thread and the conservatives will vote for "their" party. The election is left to us undecided independents.
Here's how the majority of us voting independents see it. Obama takes credit for accomplishments he has no control over (the withdrawal from Iraq was decided under Bush), and blames others for those policies he has implemented.
It's quite simple, and the 2010 elections reflect it. Obama spent all his political capital on Health Care reform, and Wall Street reform. The indendent voters did not vote for Obama to get those bills enacted. They were divisive, and now no Republican is willing to assist Obama in any future so called "Jobs Plan". Obama angered the right, and now the rest of us are paying the price. What's worse is that most of the health care law is being rolled back or not implemented except for the high cost portions to the tax payers. The Wall Street reform has only added additional costs to American citizens. So neither bill has done anything to help the economy.
Get this through your head now. Obama was not elected to deal with foreign policy. Us independents could care less about who is dead, and what is going on in foreign countries. We elected Obama to fix the economy, but not by expanding government. We thought we were getting Bill Clinton 2.0. In our opinion Obama is a failure. He did not learn how to work with the Republicans, and instead alienated them. Nothing will be accomplished now. If he is relected we will enter a great depression as simple as that.
Bush was able to get the Democrats to do the right thing, but Obama will never get the Republicans to do the same. That is failed leadership. He couldn't even get the Democrats to go along with him.
Obama is a train reck. Better to recognize that now before the country goes over the cliff.
" This is definately a left wing thread."
Try this:
Open your browser. Type in 'FoxForums'. Enjoy.
Dude, I am an independent, not registered with either party not even the tparty nutjobs. You do not speak for me in any form. You are speaking for yourself and no one else. So try this on for size.
Obama was elected to be the President of this country and to deal with all national issues not just one. Your claim that "Us independents could car less about who is dead and what is going on in foreign countries" is about as ignorant a statement as any rightwing cultist could make. Our President better have his eyes on world events as well as domestic events or he is not doing his job. As for learning how to work with the republicans, how do you work with someone that does not and will not work with you. They stated that as clearly as any group I have heard as soon as he was elected. As an independent the republican party is a disgrace to their oath of office and to the american people. They showed their true allegiance when they swore to a second oath that superceded the first at which point they became traitors to this country and their office. You sir are not an independent not in thought or action, you are just another mouth piece for the radical factions in this country.
From your first sentence...They actually take turns being first in line. Most of the time Filthy Blackhead gets dumped because not only does she not offer anything of value, her smart a$$ remarks were old when I was young.
Obama takes credit for accomplishments he has no control over
I think Bush's performance in office messed up some people's perception. It's like they think failure is success, and success is failure. Let me straighten you out:
Success is Osama bin Laden dead. Al-Awalaki dead. Qaddafy dead. Mubarak in jail. Arabs in the street saying "Thank You America!" Us, getting out of Iraq, success, confronting Pakistan - on our way to success. Got it?
Got what. I did not know Obama was in the military, or a member of seal team six? When did that happen. You mean Obama let the military industrial complex do it's "thing" just like all the administrations before his? It's what is called being in the right place at the right time. Are you saying Obama tracked down O.B.L., and killed him? Obama rised up against Egypt and overthrew Mubarak? Obama used a missile to stop Qaddafy's convoy from leaving the country, and then single handingly captured and then put a bullet in Qaddafy's head? You mean it was Obama, and not Bush who signed the treaty with Iraq to pull all the troops out of Iraq by December 2011. Wow you guys on here who blindly support the anointed one are rewriting history as it unfolds.
What you really meant to say was the military industrial complex is worth every penny we spend on it. What you are really saying is that their budget should never be slashed, and only increased. As a service disabled veteran I am happy for and proud of our military. I am smart enough to know the politicians are either in the right place at the right time, or not. That's what is called success.
Try giving a little more credit to who deserves it. Don't be such a fool.
Now if only your anointed one could do the same with the economy. He had two years of full Democrat control, and wasted it on Health and Wall Street reform. Angered too many people along the way. What happened to the first round of stimulous.
If only Obama would get out of the way of small businesses and the 99% like he did with the military industrial complex we will get this economy moving again. Put a surplus tax on the wealthy, get out of the way of the businesses by shrinking the size of government and allowing the businesses to spend money that is currently going to taxes, and give a break to the 99% then we will get this economy moving. Greece is a great example of how big government is bad for the economy. If it wasn't Greece would be booming right now.
I say this to Obama. Since you can't lead, then get out of our way. We have jobs to create, and want to put hard working Americans back to work. Yours jobs bill is a failure, just like the last one. You want to give a blank check to the states in hopes that they will spend it on teachers, firefighters, and policeman. There are no requirements that the states will do that. I promise you Obama that if you get out of our way, and let us small businesses lead we will get the economy moving again, and that will keep the teachers, firefighters, and policeman employed.
Obama if you do that I promise we will give you another opportunity to take credit for something you had no control over.
Amy,
Success would be unemployment under 8.0
Dear Multiple Party System
As a fellow independent and after reading your post, I couldn’t resist responding. First, except for your opinion that independents will determine the outcome of the 2012 election; I have to say that I couldn’t disagree with you more and you don’t speak for this independent. In fact, I think it’s fair to say that you, like me, only speak for yourself.
On your point that President Obama takes credit for other people’s accomplishments; consider that no action, good or bad, takes place without the boss’ approval. Hence, an unbiased person understands that the boss gets the blame for any failures committed by anyone under his/her watch and conversely, the boss gets credit for any accomplishments which occur under his/her watch. It’s been that way long before President Obama was born.
Whether you agree with health care reform or not; the facts clearly indicate that President Obama tried to compromise and negotiate with Republicans to no avail. This is evidenced by how long it took to pass and the numerous changes and amendments. It wouldn’t have took so long or so much “political capital” to develop a reasonable health care reform bill if the Republicans made a good faith effort to compromise. To the contrary, the right made it clear very early in President Obama’s term that their main purpose was to make President Obama a one term President. They placed power over governing. Therefore, in my opinion, the rest of us are paying the price. I’ve never heard anyone say that they liked helping Wall Street after their reckless behavior but, in my opinion, the alternative would have been worse and therefore, has helped the economy.
The President of the United States of America has to wear many hats and resolve various foreign and domestic crises with equal vigor. As for the expansion of government, if you’re referring to initiatives intended to stimulate the economy; I say it has been at the very least harmless and is clearly better for us than downsizing or moving businesses overseas which is what the private sector has been doing for the past decade which no President can control. President Obama did try to work with Republicans and nothing short of complete capitulation would have satisfied them at his political peril. If President Obama is re-elected nothing will be accomplished if the Republicans don’t accept that there are people in this country that do not agree with their ideology and learn to compromise so that we all can have our voices heard. “My way or the highway” does not work in a democracy.
President Bush was able to get things done like Republican Presidents before him because Democrats were willing to compromise with him. President Obama has been able to get Democrats to go along with him which is evidenced by congressional votes to his initiatives. In fact, most of his stalled initiatives were defeated by uniform Republican opposition and filibusters.
I believe my opinions are supported by public records. But then again, that’s this independent’s opinion.
Multiple Party System, you gave yourself away by calling President Obama "Anointed One." You may be registered Independent, but you're as unbiased as Glenn Beck.
I am also a registered Independent and you don't speak for me.
You Obama supporters a really stupid. This man is not great nor is he to smart. Granted this was a campaign promise but this is a ploy to throw you idiots off the fact that the ecomony is in the tank and he is still looking to giving out handouts to those that are to lazzy to go and get a job.
Get lost troll!
You know I have heard this cr** long enough. Most of the unemployed lazy people had jobs before the banks tanked our economy they had homes and families before the banks tanked our economy. So in my opinion you are the lazy pig here since you are unable to think for yourself and simply repeat what you heard a politican running for office say to get attention. No go back to your cave and complete your finger painting.
(1) GOP mess cleaned up. Many more to go. Unfortunately, some of the other garbage left behind will take many more years to fix.
Finally getting out of where we never should have been to start with. It's time they took care of their own country. It has cost us enough in life, in blood and in money. If John McCain wants to go over there and lay down his life, let him.
Iraq was the failure of BOTH political parties. The democrats approved the war, but of course just like the cowards that they are, tried later to absolve themselves of any responsibility. I was adamantly opposed to any conflict with Iraq, even when it seemed that the entire country was beating the war drums and rattling the spears. This wasn't a Republican mess, it was a complete failure of our political system which the public was very happy to go along with. People need to accept culpability in this instead of having selective amnesia. AND if that isn't enough, OBAMA WANTED TO KEEP US IN IRAQ EVEN LONGER!!! Only failed negotiations are bringing our soldiers home. OBAMA NEEDS TO GO!!!
Thanks goodness. Obama cleaning up ANOTHER of GWB and the Repuglicans' messes. Like catching Osama bin Laden, what GWB could never do.
Now onto the economy; the worst since the 1930s. Gonna take years to clean up that crap.
You came in with 750,000 jobs lost/month. now you're at 100k jobs created/month. it's going to take a long time, but a mess so big, what do you expect.
BHO 2012!
So, Mr Potato head, (teahead) just how many more TRILLION do you think it will take to clean up this mess. He has wasted more in three years what all the other presidents combined have spent. What do we have to show for it other than massive unemployment a massive debt to China?
Iraq is kicking them out.
www.nationaljournal.com/u-s-troop-withdrawal-motivated-by-iraqi-insistence-not-u-s-choice-20111021
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