Perry walks back birther comments, says he has 'no doubt' Obama's a citizen

First, it was "no reason to think otherwise." Then it was, "I don't have a clue." Then it was "a distraction."

And on Day Four, it's finally, "I have no doubt."

After days of questions, Texas Gov. Rick Perry said unequivocally that he believes the president is an American citizen.

"I don't think I was expressing doubts," he said of his previous comments about the validity of the president's birth certificate in an interview with Tampa's Bay News 9 to be aired Sunday, per the St. Petersburg Times. "I was just having some fun with Donald Trump."

Asked if he believes President Obama is an American citizen, Perry responded, "I have no doubt about it."

Perry's flirtation with birtherism, which began Sunday in an interview published in Parade Magazine, resulted in at least a partial overshadowing of his rollout of a flat tax-based economic plan in Gray Court, S.C., yesterday. Perry implied that his questions about Obama's birth certificate were meant in "fun" during an interview with CNBC's John Harwood, but he also appeared to sympathize with Trump's skepticism that the president's birth certificate -- which he made public in an April press conference -- is real.

"I don't have a clue about ... what his birth certificate says," Perry told Harwood. "But it's also a great distraction."

But in the interview in Tampa, where Perry held a fundraising event Wednesday, the Texas governor dismissed the whole controversy as a joke.

"It's fun to... Ya know, lighten up," he said.

GOP '12 candidate Rick Perry is now saying he has no doubt President Obama is an American citizen, while Mitt Romney now says he backs Gov. John Kasich, R-Ohio, "110 percent" on a collective bargaining measure.

Perry also challenged his competitors to reveal other personal documents, including college transcripts. (Perry's recently published grades at Texas A&M reflected his academic struggles.)

"Let's lay out our income taxes," he said. "Let's lay out our college transcripts. Mine's been on the front page of the paper. So if we're going to lay out all these things, let's lay them all out.

Here's a partial transcript:

PERRY: "I don't think I was expressing doubts. I was just having some fun with Donald Trump. So I...."

ADAM SMITH, ST. PETE TIMES: Are you comfortable that he's an American citizen?

PERRY: Oh yeah. It's fun to.. Ya know, lighten up.

SMITH: So you have no doubt he's an American citizen?

PERRY: "I have no doubt about it. But here's the more interesting thing. Let's lay out our income taxes. Let's lay out our college transcripts. Mine's been on the front page of the paper. So if we're going to lay out all these things, let's lay them all out."

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The sooner Perry packs it in the better.

The choice is Romney or Obama. Let's get to it.

  • 68 votes
#1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT

As Ann Coulter says “If Romney is our choice we will lose”.

  • 60 votes
#1.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT

I think you are correct. I think the process of elimination alone points to a Romney win. Who else is there? Cain? Democrats would have a joy-gasm. Bachmann? Bring it, that lady is so loony any debate she gets through without eating a live bug on stage she considers a win. Perry? Perry is the guy Dubya pretended to be. I'm not saying he can't win the Republican nomination, but I don't see it.

Here is my prediction: Romney wins the nomination and the Teaparty blows a gasket. This leads to a third party candidate of the wingnut variety.

  • 67 votes
#1.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT

Suddenly I am an Ann Coulter fan! Bring Romney on! And while we are at it, Ron Paul for a third party candicate!

  • 36 votes
#1.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Coulter is dead wrong. Perry would be the one that would lose.

And to lose to Obama you have to be a real $%^ up.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

Ron Paul for a third party candicate!

Fine by me. It's not like it will hurt Romney. The only ones that will vote for Paul in the general are stoners that otherwise wouldn't vote at all.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:40 PM EDT

Geez....if he is gonna lay it out a la Scott Brown we is allllll in trouble :) YUCH!

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:43 PM EDT

I agree with nisl

The Republican establishment has decreed Romney will be the nominee, despite the fact the rank and file want a true conservative. The Tea Party will revolt and spin off a third party candidate.

  • 31 votes
#1.7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

Rob, I think you are wrong. Romney will have a lot of tea party folks staying home with a six pack.

  • 34 votes
#1.8 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT

Is this like the "just kidding" Cain was doing on electrocuting illegals? Wow these guys really ought to take this comedy show on the road...

  • 47 votes
#1.9 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:56 PM EDT

"I don't think I was expressing doubts," he said of his previous comments about the validity of the president's birth certificate in an interview with Tampa's Bay News 9 to be aired Sunday, per the St. Petersburg Times. "I was just having some fun with Donald Trump."

LoL Won't Donald Trump be thrilled to hear this?

Perry's now toast, either way.

By the way, thank you, Donald. Because I believe you really meant to do this.

  • 31 votes
#1.10 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:57 PM EDT

What next? Perry is going to claim he's a Mormon??

  • 44 votes
#1.11 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT

Looks like the best hope for the GOP is an even greater effort to suppress voting.

  • 60 votes
#1.12 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT

Ann Coulter lives in her own fantasy world where she actually believes everything that comes out of her mouth is true, accurate and not up for debate. These days, only the very fringe and Bill Maher pay any attention to her. And he's just doing it for the controversial ratings.

  • 33 votes
#1.13 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT

I want to see Perry's birth certificate....and if he is a citizen of the independent commonwealth of Texas, I would question his legitimacy as a candidate....

  • 34 votes
#1.14 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:09 PM EDT

Looks like the "Presidential hopefuls"are starting to get some sense...Romney at least is starting to look more normal, which means the lunatics of the tea party do not want him.

I wish the Republicans would reclaim their party from those lunatics. Cain is looking more and more like an ugly Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry can not articulate a sentence without putting his foot in his mouth...He also enjoys showing that he was a "struggling student" Oh Please! People used to tell struggling students that if they wanted to be President, it was required that they STUDIED more....Not Perry..Pathetic in any possible way.

  • 25 votes
#1.15 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

The only ones that will vote for Paul in the general are stoners that otherwise wouldn't vote at all.

Eh, not true, exactly. My Father-in-law, who is a true irish catholic conservative to the hilt said Ron Paul get's his vote. And most of his friends say the same. Man is a father of 9 and far from being a stoner. If Paul did run on a separate ticket, I'd be concerned if i were you.

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

The anorexia skank Ann Coulter is correct -- if Romney is the teapublican nominee, they will lose. But they will also lose if Perry or Bachmann or Gingrich or Cain or any of the other clowns in the teapublican field is the nominee.

  • 58 votes
#1.17 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:15 PM EDT

Bryan, concerned about what? I believe this will be a close election, but a third party candidate won't make it easier for Romney. Third party candidates got Lincoln in for instance, and Ralph Nader never did Democratic candidates any favors. If Romney gets it, there will be a third party candidate to spoil the party for gop/tea party.

  • 11 votes
#1.18 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

Anna -- You have to wonder about Trumps motives here I agree, lol. And also why Perry bought into it...

  • 10 votes
#1.19 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

wayne....

Rob, I think you are wrong. Romney will have a lot of tea party folks staying home with a six pack.

Are you kidding? To the tea party nothing is more improtant than getting rid of obama no matter the opponent.

  • 4 votes
#1.20 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

I am sure many will be motivated to vote, but there will be many who will not allow themselves to vote for the apparent author of Obama's health care plan. I have talked with them. They claim to have some sort of standards that are mysterious to me, but those "standards" will not allow them to vote for Mitt Romney.

  • 15 votes
#1.21 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

Too late. Any candidate who says something outrageous, whether about lethal electrocution of illegals who may climb a fence, or meeting with Trump and bringing the Birther conspiracy theories back to life, and then say it was a joke are not up to the office of POTUS and leader of the free world.

Perry, Cain, and Romney -- This is one of the most serious times in our nation's history. Obviously you are not qualified to lead.

  • 38 votes
#1.23 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

Perry was"just kidding"

Kind of reminds one of the guy who always makes insulting personal remarks followed by "just kidding." Perry is insulting, and not very bright because this is an old joke which never was all that funny. We all know buffoons like Perry, and none of them deserve to be President of the United States.

  • 33 votes
#1.24 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

Hi Drive By,

That is one thing they are good at.

Looks like the best hope for the GOP is an even greater effort to suppress voting.

  • 18 votes
#1.25 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:59 PM EDT

Ron Paul is my senile grandfather. Everyone on the Repub side is a cartoon character. Seriously, can you see any of these clowns as President?/ If you can, you're an idiot.

  • 17 votes
#1.26 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

As Ann Coulter says “If Romney is our choice we will lose”.

As Americans say "If ANY GOP candidate is the choice, we lose".

This batch of willy-nilly just-kidding, no-I-wasn't, what-was-the-question dirt bags are one big joke. It seems just a big game to them. They play the media like a harp and play us citizens for dopes. And out of the only two serious candidates, one flip-flops daily to try to remake himself into what "we" want, while the other gains absolutely no popularity because he is "too reasonable"... not a true died-in-the-wool Republican.

I am a fiscal conservative. I believe in a balanced budget. I believe in a fairer tax system (for rich AND poor). I do not want another stimulus because of the negativity surrounding it. I want a functioning government, not an over-bearing nor an under-funded one. And I want a fair solution to addressing the deficits and ultimately the debt. By all reasonable accounts, I would be Republican... except that I know that trickle down economics does not work... I'm right there with Bush Sr. on that one.

But today's Republican's have gone to some kind of extreme for virtually EVERY social issue and nearly EVERY political issue... and for those reasons, I could never vote Republican. Never again.

  • 37 votes
#1.27 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:08 PM EDT

Perry's a Mormon?

Pass it on. ;-)

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:22 PM EDT

Anna Molly

Perry's a Mormon?

Pass it on. ;-)

Leave out that second "m" and you've identified Perry's problem.

  • 27 votes
#1.29 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:33 PM EDT

LoL You mean he's a Mormon moron?

Pass it on.

  • 14 votes
#1.30 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

All I can say is, Thank God for the Teabaggers, Obama is a shoe in now. Woot. Gotta love those teabaggers.

  • 23 votes
#1.31 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

Well howdy, y'all. Heck, I was just funnin' ya. That there birth certificate thang is probly purty durn real. But compared to a 2,000 year old book that explains just about evry durned thang, well, y'all can see why I mighta beem jist a sight skeptical.

"Scuse me now, gonna mosey along. Gotta pray fer some giudance, doncha know.

  • 16 votes
#1.32 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

Thank God for the Teabaggers, Obama is a shoe in now. Woot. Gotta love those teabaggers.

You know, here's a group of individuals who've gone out of their way to discredit, harass, and humiliate the President of the United States. All they actually did is make him look so much better and pretty much secure his re-election, as no one in the GOP can even be trusted. If they'd kept their mouths shut, it would have been sooooooo much better!

And, I'm sorry, this BS is not over YET?????? Can we say ridiculous!!?!?!?

  • 11 votes
#1.33 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

I envision this scenario:

Romney wins the nomination, but TEA Parties are extremely unhappy. They coalesce around a third party candidate with the tea party credentials. I can see that being someone like Sarah Palin. So it's Obama v. Romney v. Palin.

Normally, the Palin candidacy might take enough votes from Republicans to throw the race to Obama, much like Nader did for Gore in 2000. But Palin is popular enough that she might actually win a few states. If that happens, she might take enough electoral votes away from Romney to prevent him from winning. But if Obama cannot get a majority of the electoral votes, then the Constitution says that the House of Representatives gets to decide on the President, with each state getting 1 vote and the majority of the states choosing the president. Can you imagine the political free-for-all that would become? It would make the 2000 election look like a Sunday School picnic, and no matter who won the losing side (or sides) would be even angrier than Democrats after the Supreme Court ruling.

  • 3 votes
#1.34 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:59 PM EDT

nisl...

Why does the third party candidate have to be of the "wingnut" variety? What about:

Bloomberg

Huntsman

Walker

Although Huntsman not ready to cut the cord just yet...

    #1.35 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT

    Romney will have a harder time than people think. I am an old guy so I remember the Kennedy-Nixon race. The fundamentalists in the South (remember that then the South was considered solidly Democratic) used every pulpit to say that the Pope would be running the county. The result was that Kennedy only won by a razor-thin margin because he lost the South.

    I am hearing the same sort of thing about Romney (and to a much, much lesser amount about Huntsman.) Even Catholics are sayinbg that all "true" Christian demoninations accept the Nicene Creed (Apostles' Creed) as a statement of Christian faith. The Mormons (LDS) do not accept the Nicene Creed of the Trinity in the way that mainstream Christians do. And if Independents and "thinking" Christians try to read about LDS they will find that there is a bunch of stuff there that is very "unfamiliar" to put it mildly.

    Romney will also get ripped apart by a) his being an investment banker/Wall Street insider, b) having flip-flopped on most major issues that are important to Conservatives, and c) simply not being the least bit authentic. In a Romney-Obama race, the Democrats will focus primarily on ads showing Romney stating his own past positions in his own words. For example, telling of the wonders of mandated health care.

    And a third party is exactly the absolutely worst thing that can happen to the Republicans at this time. It would depend on how much traction the new party got, but it would divide the Republican vote and hand races to the Democrats by default. The only reason that people express any real interest in Ron Paul and Libertarianism is that they do not know exactly what is entailed. Try reading it for yourself at www.lp.org/platform . You will be surprised to see things like throwing open our borders, shutting down all border policing, and allowing unrestricted immigration among other similar issues.

    The Tea Party has actually worked the right wing of the Republican Party into a position where they oppose government programs that directly benefit over 92% of likely voters.

    • 13 votes
    #1.36 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

    That's the thing. Of all the candidates that could Beat Obama, Huntsman is the only one. I mean hell, even if I wouldn't vote for him over Obama, I can't say I'd be too upset myself if he won, and I'm a pinko commie liberal. So naturally, he's running close to dead last in every poll.

    • 18 votes
    #1.37 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

    Caligula - The third party candidate will need to be a wingnut because the unrepresented demographic, should Romney win, will be the Tea Party type wingnuts.

    There is no reason for another right of center type to run if Romney wins. There WILL be a reason for a Jim Demint type to run though.

    • 5 votes
    #1.38 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:56 PM EDT

    I'm not so sure looking for pity regarding his college transcripts is a great move for Perry. Just yet another example of how out of touch he is. College students that worked hard for their degree and can't find a job aren't going to give this guy the pity he's looking for. So he struggled in college, is now governor and a presidential candidate. Yeah, people really identify with that.

    This election seems to be going the way of 2004. A majority of people seem to want the President (Bush) out, but the challenger (Kerry) still is less desirable. The "anybody but Obama" crowd is much smaller than the Tea Party likes to believe, it's going to take somebody worth electing to beat him. The 3rd party candidate is interesting. Witnessing the 1992 election with Perot in/out/in/out, there is clearly an impact a viable 3rd party candidate brings. This election would probably be decided by less than 5 points, maybe much closer, so any 3rd party candidate flirting with 5-8% of the vote will impact the election. Ron Paul can certainly get that percentage of the vote. But who's going to break from the party and throw themselves in the fire? The republicans will spend a lot of money trying to tear down whoever it is, so who has the stones to do it? I don't think Ron Paul does.

    • 5 votes
    #1.39 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:57 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarjacksonalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    I still would like to know who ghost wrote the books Obama said he wrote and what kind of compensation that person received and what happened to the $125,000 advance that was given to him to write the first book after his contract was canceled.

    Everyone should know, for the sake of veracity, that Obama never took a writing class, never took any advanced english courses, never wrote a published essay, article or short story and after being dismissed because he could not supply an outline, plot or summary for the book he received a $125,000 advance for, wrote a best seller.

    This fish doesn't smell bad to you? Shouldn't a president be up front and honest with the people he is paid to represent?

    Obama's publisher for Dreams cricizes Obama for the following:"Osnos publicly scolds Obama for his "ruthlessness" and "his questionable judgment about using public service as a personal payday." Now there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that Obama had his books ghostwritten and doesn't acknowledge that.And he obviously has used his political position to have had the books written and published.

    Who would have read the same books if they had been written by a black shoe salesman? His first contract for his first book was revoked when he couldn't provide an outline or a draft. Obama never wrote any short stories or documents when he was in college or a lawyer or as a law professor. How was it that he wrote such an error laden book and claim it as entirely his own.Obama took advantage of his political positions to publicize and gain vast sums of money only because he was a politician. If you carefully read his book, you are aware of many gross errors and the fact that it is written by an expert writer. Obama never even wrote a short story and the book is embellished. Is it truth or fiction?For this

      #1.40 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:02 PM EDT

      Jacksonal = right wing blogs, copy, paste, Fox News, copy, paste. Ghostwriting isn't the same as plagiarism. Which one are you guilty of?

      • 8 votes
      #1.41 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:12 PM EDT

      So Perry has "no doubt" that 0'Bama is a citizen? What a wuss!

      The only thing scarcer than hen's teeth is testicles on a Republican.

      • 3 votes
      #1.42 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:20 PM EDT

      "...and I'm a pinko commie liberal." Toasty McGrath

      And in other news, a bear was reportedly seen defecating in the woods this morning.

      • 1 vote
      #1.43 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:33 PM EDT

      It's clear that Mitt and Rick are now in a fierce flip-flopping competition and Rick is coming from behind. If he wants to catch up, he must increase the pace big time. That was a good start. What's next Rick?

      • 5 votes
      #1.44 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:42 PM EDT

      Ann Coulter: the neurotic bimbo who thought the canadians fought along side the US in vietnnam.

      didn't Sarah Palin the Wasilla hillbilly pretty much put a nail in the coffin of Coulter's career?

      • 6 votes
      #1.45 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:36 PM EDT

      Instead focusing on job creation and other important matters this is what the teabaggers focus on these cost saving programs like Florida's 2011 drug testing of welfare recipients in which 2.5% failed so the state could save the the exorbitant amount of $98,000. By the way slick rick received $72,687 in farm subsidies and 22 of his top 50 donors received state post appointments.

      • 3 votes
      #1.46 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:16 PM EDT

      Toasty, I'm a pinko commie liberal too, and I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body, I'm glad I got all that off my chest.

      • 6 votes
      #1.47 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:36 PM EDT

      I still would like to know who ghost wrote the books Obama said he wrote and what kind of compensation that person received and what happened to the $125,000 advance that was given to him to write the first book after his contract was canceled.

      I think it was the astrologer who ran Reagan's administration.

      Seriously, though. That was funny. Not as funny as the birther stuff, but pretty close. Keep it coming, Jackson. You're tea bagger satire is dead on.

      • 6 votes
      #1.48 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT

      Slick Rick is a total loser, end of story !!!!!!!

      • 3 votes
      #1.49 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

      Walking back to Texas would be even more productive for, Rick Perry.

      Flat Tax, Flat Brain, Flat Earth and Flat Agenda equals Rick Perry.

      • 2 votes
      #1.50 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:30 AM EDT

      Anna Molly..."Perry's now toast, either way." Now?

      If you watched the election for Texas governor between Perry and White, you would have known Perry NEVER stood a chance. He is unequivocally not presidential material. Never has been. Never will be. Which is why I've been surprised from the beginning that the man gets any attention.

      • 1 vote
      #1.51 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:32 AM EDT

      True, but Ann Coulter is right, the conservatives will not support Romney. Their candidates (along with the tea party) are Herman Cain, Perry and Bachmann. Between the tea party, true conservatives and the evangelicals, Romney doesn't have the support he would need to win a national election. They despise him, just like they despised McCain. Lack of that support was McCain's un-doing. The old guard republicans have lost control of the party for good, unless the tea-baggers get voted out in 2012. Fox is pushing Perry big time, that should tell you something. They will lose with Cain, but these factions will support him and they can always say in the end, "see we aren't racist" and set the stage for 2016.

      • 2 votes
      #1.52 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

      I'd like to see birth certificates of Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Donald Trump. And I'd like to see Rick Perry's grades-- anyone can cheat to show good grades, and besides Rick Perry is an Aggie.

      • 1 vote
      #1.53 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

      Careful there Susie noting Perry is an Aggie. Kerry, the democrats version of Perry, went to Yale and BC.

      You wouldn't want to imply that those schools are inferior just because he went them.

        #1.54 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT

        What ever happen with Trumps investigators that were looking into President Obama's birth certificate??

        Didnt he say we would be "very surprised" ??

        • 1 vote
        #1.55 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM EDT

        Bringing up the birther issue has backfired. Case closed on this nonsense and on Perry.

        • 2 votes
        #1.56 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT

        Didn't Coulter once have a job as "The Cryptkeeper"? They look an awfully lot alike.

          #1.57 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT

          Actually Coulter's costume, this Halloween, is herself and her book. Pretty scary, I'd say.

            #1.58 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

            hs321

            Careful there Susie noting Perry is an Aggie. Kerry, the democrats version of Perry, went to Yale and BC.

            You wouldn't want to imply that those schools are inferior just because he went them.

            Actually my first thought was Susie lives in Texas and she's a UT fan *Hook em horns!*

              #1.59 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:47 PM EDT

              Time for the Teabagger nuts to pull out their secret weapon... Newt Gingrich! Wow, what a guy... if anyone can do it he can! LOL

                #1.60 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:31 PM EDT

                I believe the Teabaggers secret weapon was Sarah Pallen and she dropped out. Now they are left with another loser Micheal Backmen. When will they ever learn. Yes, Obama, you do have my vote.

                • 1 vote
                #1.61 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

                Perry reminds me of Barney Fife. Every time Barney pulled his gun it fired prematurely. Every time Perry opens his mouth it fires prematurely. If the GOP keeps repeating the same resoundly refuted lies they're toast. Driving out all the moderate members of the GOP is looking more and more fatal.

                  #1.62 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

                  1SGF...she might be a Longhorn, but with the Horns football program being a total embarrassment again this year, I can't imagine anyone admitting that.

                  • 1 vote
                  #1.63 - Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

                  lmao hs321!! This is true but it's just the vibe I got.... BUT the Cowboys and the dolphins suck this year too, yet they're still my favorite nfc/afc teams, we don't give up that easy ;)

                    #1.64 - Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:13 PM EDT
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                    Too bad....we all know he's not.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarDMAC-1004611Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    How do you MORON DEMOCRAP monkeys have such a short memory when it comes to that IDIOT OBUNGLE you put in office? Putting the blame on any GOP candidate for what they say is so beyond stupid its unreal but us rethugs have come to expect all kind of stupidity from you demorons its just the typical game you IDIOTS play when you have nothing intelligent to spew out of your pieholes yourselves. There are just to many of you dems that are jumping off the OJACKA$$ wagon now and will probably make a big difference in 2012. WE SHALL SEE!!!!!!!

                      #2.1 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:24 AM EDT
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                      The "Flip-Flop-Flu" has claimed yet another victim - Scary Perry. Does this mean that The Donald is no longer Scary Perry's new "best friend forever?"

                      • 29 votes
                      Reply#3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT

                      It sure does look like Secessionist Rick is channeling Weathervane Willard.

                      • 9 votes
                      #3.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:57 PM EDT

                      what was it Perry said the other day -- it's a good idea to keep the birther BS alive, it's fun to poke at Obama with it?

                      Memo to Slick Rick: Unlike in Texas - you're not getting a free pass on every idiot thing that runs out of your piehole, and people remember what you said the day before.

                      • 15 votes
                      #3.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT

                      I know, his camp probably said "let's float this birther issue" then realized it had no traction, so recant. So typical and hypocritical - no better than Romney when it comes to flip-flopping on issues.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.3 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT

                      I gues you IDIOT DEMOCRAPS believe everything your fed by the moronic media HUH??? How come it took the donald to get OJACKA$$ to come out with his new and improved birth cert. 2 years later with all types of proven mistakes in it? How come the media can climb up a gnats butt butt can't find anything about OJACKA$$ and that so-called first lady nothing, nothing and nothing. No friends no transcripts no papers nothing and nobody on here does either so it sure looks like stupidity and democraps go hand in hand following what the media idiots tell them,good luck with that. YOU can't fix stupid no matter how hard you try!!!!

                        #3.4 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:37 AM EDT

                        DMAC::: That's easy to figure out. President Obama did it so that Trump would shut the f*** up. And Trump still hasn't shut his big yap. I'm still wondering about those investigators that the Donald said he sent to Hawaii. It is funny that nobody else has had to produce his birth certificate-- guess because the donald doesn't know that Hawaii was a state when Obama was born. Heck, I knew it so he should have.

                        There have been people who have stated that they knew him at college. Maybe he wasn't the partying drunk type-- THAT is the way to make friends in college.

                        Where is YOUR birth certificate? You probably cheated to show good grades. In your case, you can't fix a mental idiot.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.5 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:28 AM EDT

                        "President Obama did it so that Trump would shut the f*** up."

                        Is there a known force in the universe that could make Trump shut up?

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.6 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

                        Wrong !

                        think IVANA !

                          #3.7 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
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                          What the hell is this man talking about? First he was going to take the President's word on whether he was born here(indicating doubt). Then he said it was fun poking fun at the President of the United States. Now he says he believes President Obama was born here, but he was just having fun with Trump. Now he wants income taxes and college transcripts. If Perry wants college transcripts so he can compare his to Obama's, Perry's dumber than anyone thought.

                          • 38 votes
                          Reply#4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:35 PM EDT

                          So, if Perry is elected Preisent will he "joke around" at G8 conferences to "lighten the mood" then have to spend weeks assuring world leaders of what he really meant?

                          • 39 votes
                          #4.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:41 PM EDT

                          Yeah, can't you just hear it now? "Huh? That little red button on my desk? Hell, I was just havin me some fun! I did what?"

                          • 36 votes
                          #4.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:49 PM EDT
                          Comment author avatarno joe, no bo, njExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          I get what you're saying, Amy. You would not want France's Sarkozy referring to a president as "utterly immature- dangerously naive", now, would you?

                          Oh. Wait. He was referring to Obama.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:52 PM EDT

                          These guys are going to get a serious case of 'whip-lash'. Flip flopping will be considered mild and inconsequential.

                          Whip-lash can cause serious injury to the brain....oh wait....

                          • 16 votes
                          #4.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:52 PM EDT

                          NoJoe: coming from Sarkozy, this is an insult??

                          • 25 votes
                          #4.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

                          Great answer, AP!!!

                          • 15 votes
                          #4.6 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT

                          NJNB -- Just look at who's saying it that says a lot. Fan of Sarkozy eh? LOL

                          • 14 votes
                          #4.7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

                          DEE -- I agree. When Perry said something about both the president and him providing their grades, I thought, do you really want to go there? The sad thing is, Rove could hold up a tablet comparing the large gap in grades and Teapublicans would still vote for Perry!

                          • 7 votes
                          #4.8 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

                          Perry's dumber than anyone thought.

                          Perry is dumber than you can imagine.

                            #4.9 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:37 AM EDT

                            Nah, I have a very good imagination...

                              #4.10 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:10 AM EDT

                              Dee::: Rick Perry has one major disability-- he is an Aggie. NUFF SAID!

                                #4.11 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT

                                See hs321?? I now REALLY believe Susie is from Texas! lol *Hook em Horns!*

                                  #4.12 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT
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                                  Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  How about the OWS crowd getting the tear gas.

                                  As Paris Hilton would say "LOVES IT!!!!"

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

                                  ...and you think this somehow damages the movement?

                                  • 14 votes
                                  #5.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:57 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  No I just enjoy the fact that the lawless leeches tasted tear gas.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:04 PM EDT

                                  Tear-gassed for publicy assembling to redress greivances. Yep- should play well with most folks.

                                  • 36 votes
                                  #5.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:05 PM EDT

                                  didn't played too well during the 60's in the eyes of John Q Public now did it?

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #5.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

                                  Actually, according to the LATimes report, they were tear gassed after they began throwing rocks and bottles at the police, who were trying to get them to disperse since it is illegal in Oakland to sleep in the parks.

                                  So I guess it is all about peace, love and understanding, right?

                                  And rocks and bottles. . .

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

                                  I get such a kick out of it i can't tell ya. And you have Warren saying she invented it and obama and pelosi out there supporting criminal behavior.

                                  How clueless can the dems be?

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #5.6 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:02 PM EDT

                                  Unless you're part of the 1%, why would you disparage a group that is fighting for you?

                                  • 18 votes
                                  #5.7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

                                  Unless you're part of the 1%, why would you disparage a group that is fighting for you?

                                  fighting for me???

                                  Thanks but no thanks. All they are doing is wasting my precious tax dollars.

                                  I vote for people to fight for me and when they don't (like the entire democrat party) I vote against them.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #5.8 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

                                  Rob in Mass: funny I don't remember Dick Nixon getting the better end of that one....perhaps you lived a different history...

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #5.9 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

                                  the better end of what one? Nixon was impeached as I remember but he was elected overwhelmingly for being the anti-progressive anti hippie.

                                    #5.10 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT

                                    Rob in ma, you quoted Paris Hilton. Enough said.

                                    If you know anything about Oakland, you know that a protest of any kind turns into a riot at some point. That's just the way they roll. Meanwhile, as police in riot gear tear gassed protestors, 20 murders, 100 assaults, and 2000 drug deals went down behind their backs. Nice.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #5.11 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:05 PM EDT

                                    Rob in ma-3189632- when exactly was Nixon impoeached? If i remember correctly he resigned before he could be impeached.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #5.12 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:27 PM EDT

                                    Susie Cue - you have to give the convervative trolls on the site today a little wiggle room. We have RobMa re-writing history saying Nixon was impeached, we have NJBJ insinuating small business built Hoover Dam amongst other untrue spins, and we have Leona proclaiming her love of CEOs who break the law. They aren't having a good day.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #5.13 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT

                                    Thank you, Rob. You have successfully locked down your (non)credibility. Please stay south of the state line, or at least, come no further north than Manchester. We have enough of your ilk in the Lakes Region.

                                      #5.14 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:29 PM EDT
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                                      Think Bobby Darin

                                      Flip flop I was making a campaign stop, all upon a Saturday night. flub dub I was giving Obama the rub thinking everything was alright.

                                      Okay Mitt & Rick second verse together now, harmonize fellas, harmonize.

                                      • 12 votes
                                      Reply#6 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT

                                      lol good one Forrest!

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #6.1 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT
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                                      Perry and Romney sure are a couple of flip floppers...they sure are for a lot of things before they are against them before they are for them again...

                                      • 20 votes
                                      Reply#7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

                                      LOL...my sentiments exactly!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #7.1 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:25 AM EDT
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                                      So I guess from now on, just like Cain, whenever a pug sticks his whole foot in his mouth, he was just pretending this is all Comedy Central.

                                      Hogwash. We all know he is dumb as a bag of hammers like anybody that supports any of the right wingnut whackos that are running, like Hair Boy Trump, Lipstick Palin, Pizza man Cain, Mormon Romney, Wild Eyes Blachmann, Fat Boy Christie - did I miss any members of the sideshow?

                                      Romney will be the nominee, and he sure as hell won't win the South because of the cult he is in. The bible thumpers will not have a non-Southern Baptist in the White House.

                                      • 18 votes
                                      Reply#8 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:56 PM EDT

                                      So Rick Perry's idea of "fun" is to make disrespectful comments about the President, furthering the birther nonsense (which some people still believe). That tells me about his character.

                                      • 31 votes
                                      Reply#9 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

                                      Politics sure are funny; I can't believe I agree with a Steeler Fan!!!

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #9.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

                                      What character?

                                        #9.2 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

                                        Rick Perry doesn't HAVE character-- he IS ONE.

                                          #9.3 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT

                                          Whoa Susie you're giving him WAY too much credit there! Unless of course you mean in a straight to DVD "B" rated horror film ;)

                                            #9.4 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:51 PM EDT
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                                            The fact that he expresses sympathy for Trump's doubts about the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate simply drives home that birthers are consumed with such irrational hatred that there is NOTHING, including the facts, that will satisfy them. I'm not surprised that Perry is part of such a movement.

                                            • 24 votes
                                            Reply#10 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:04 PM EDT

                                            Ha Ha. You said "movement". But i do agree.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #10.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

                                            PERRY: "I don't think I was expressing doubts. I was just having some fun with Donald Trump. So I...."

                                            ADAM SMITH, ST. PETE TIMES: Are you comfortable that he's an American citizen?

                                            PERRY: Oh yeah. It's fun to.. Ya know, lighten up.

                                            It's fun to lie about President Obama's citizenship? Was Mr. Huff having "fun" when he was stopped in 2010 for bringing guns into Tennessee to support efforts to arrest officials who refused to indict President Obama for not being a U.S. citizen, and therefore, ineligible to serve as POTUS?

                                            • 11 votes
                                            #10.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

                                            MARY

                                            Excellent comment. Like most on this thread I have enjoyed the antics of oil slicks the clown. It's less funny when you realize that he and the other GOP candidates, are stirring such rage that it is leading to acts of violence.

                                            The Obama haters who root for these teapublicans, contain a few unstable extremists. Kudos to the secret service for keeping the President safe. But Huff and the nut who shot Rep. Gifford exemplify how dangerous this hateful GOP field is.

                                            • 11 votes
                                            #10.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:41 PM EDT

                                            Just remember this. The Conservatives (tea party and establishment Republicans) are SO fired up to defeat Obama at all costs, that they will fall heavily in line to support whomever is the Republican nonimee. A Romney nomination will not generate a third party amongst the conservatives, 'cause that would only work in Obama's favor.

                                            Defeat Obama is the driving force of Republican voters today. You wanna lower taxes? Great! You wanna raise taxes? Even better! You wanna reduce government? We like it! You wanna make government more invasive. We're behind you! You wanna kill public education? FOr sure! You wanna expand public education? Certainly!

                                            Do whatever the hell you want, but just, please, please, please, Defeat Obama!

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #10.4 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:37 PM EDT
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                                            Now I'm starting to feel sorry for Perry, as well as Bachman. Ron Paul is just plain crazy and Herman Cain thinks he's still selling pizza, "9 toppings for 9.99."

                                            This GOP field is just sad.

                                            As Uncle Jed used to say, "Pitiful, just pitiful."

                                            C'mon folks, is this really the best you can do?

                                            Obama/Biden 2012

                                            • 27 votes
                                            Reply#11 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

                                            Yes, sadly, it's the best they can do. Obama will laugh all the way to victory.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #11.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

                                            Yeah, I'm laughing already!

                                            Obama/Biden 2012

                                            • 8 votes
                                            #11.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

                                            No, they can do better. I suggest a "Draft Pat Robertson" campaign.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #11.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:50 PM EDT

                                            Skip,

                                            We should all feel sory for the TP'ers. They fall in love with a new messiah every other week, then find that they bought a pig in a poke. At any given time, a complete joke has taken 25% or more of the polls and then has fallen through the basement very soon after. It would seem that the TP intellect does not recognize the need to examine a candidate's views, experience or positions. If they can pander well, they're in, at least until the warts come out. It is sad to see a once great political party put up such a collection of misfits for the most difficult job on the planet. It's also a disservice to the country that deserves a real competititon between the best we can offer.

                                            • 9 votes
                                            #11.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:08 PM EDT

                                            CAL

                                            Sad indeed. Kudo's to you for finding compassion for oil slick the the rest of the clown posse. I do feel bad for us as a country. The most powerful nation on the planet has characters from a bad SNL skit campaigning to be the leader of the free world. I vehemently disagree with the GOP platform.

                                            Yet, I know many decent, hardworking conservatives, who have seen their party hijacked by: illegal electrocuting, birther babbling, death penalty cheering, flat earth believing, gun humping, billionaire wannabe's. Entertaining at first, but damaging to our culture and our political process.

                                            We all deserve better.

                                            • 7 votes
                                            #11.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:34 PM EDT

                                            @southernMays I couldn't agree more. These "candidates" are embarrassing to the country.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #11.6 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

                                            And themselves...

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #11.7 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

                                            sorry Skip you're full of crap.... Dr. Paul is nuts? That's all you have? Because he hasn't been RIGHT for the past 30 years or anything correct? Please, please, please show me where President Obama has done ANYTHING and extending Bush's stupidity doesn't count.

                                              #11.8 - Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:17 PM EDT
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                                              Comment author avatarRob in ma-3189632Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              http://www.metacafe.com/watch/hl-40054814/jimmy_kimmel_live_bush_pelts_obama_season_9/

                                              I know it was Texas but I have to say if President Bush walked on to any baseball field in the country he would get the same standing ovation.

                                              Obama? My gut tells me that the reception he would receive would be mixed at best!

                                              • 3 votes
                                              Reply#12 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

                                              Nice try, Rob, nice try. You know, I've read alot of your posts. It seems to me that you and Rickie P. from Texas have a lot in common. Not much upstairs in the brain department. You connies just can't see the forest for the trees. But next November, after President Obama is re-elected,you'll either see the light, or crawl back into your cave. I'm pretty sure I know what it's going to be.

                                              • 20 votes
                                              #12.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

                                              I see deepintheswamp aka dontgivemethepenguin aka dontgivemethepenguinisback aka faux Feisty is back !!!

                                              • 5 votes
                                              #12.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

                                              I'll bet anything you wanna lose!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #12.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

                                              Baseball fans giving Bush a standing O after he led us into two wars and this huge recession? They're not smart a group, I see...

                                              • 10 votes
                                              #12.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

                                              It was the first world series for the Rangers, a Texas long horn steer could take a dump in the outfield and the place would stand and cheer, if he is so loved send him to the OWS movements to discuss their concerns, on second thought just give me the tear gas Rob.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #12.7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:22 PM EDT

                                              I guess protecting this country from terrorist attacks mens nothing Bart.

                                              show me how Bush protected us from terrorism! IIRC 2001 was while B was the POS ( Sorry - POTUS) I get confused with these modern acronyms.

                                                #12.8 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:54 AM EDT
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                                                Running for political office today is becoming ridiculous, and the news media is responsible for much of it. Journalists must produce stories for their employers that will entice people to buy a particular newspaper, or listen to a particular radio station, or tune in to a particular TV news station. What kinds of stories come in? Well, listen to the news commentators today who say, "You don't want to miss this!" What is it we don't want to miss? Paris Hilton's latest drug charge or Michael Jackson's physician's comment on some drug Jackson was taking??!!?? Now, the big items "you don't want to miss" today are the college transcripts of Rick Perry or Barrack Obama. Why not immunization records or the automobile registration history of them or any given candidate? I don't ever recall FDR or Dwight Eisenhower or Richard Nixon or any other presidential candidate being asked to produce his or her college transcripts! The news media created this BS for sensationalism and for no other reason. I think I'm not the only person sick of this BS............

                                                • 11 votes
                                                Reply#13 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:13 PM EDT

                                                I had to produce my college transcripts to go to further school and then to get a job. And, after succeeding on those occasions, I'm NOT ruler of the free world.

                                                Imagine that: Asking the potential ruler of the free world, the guy who has control of the nuclear codes, to minimally respond to a job interview request like I did.

                                                Why shouldn't they produce college transcripts? I can say one thing, I'll bet anything Obama's transcripts kick the hell out of Perry's and most likely Romney's as well.

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #13.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

                                                Florida Dem: I'm betting Obama's college transcripts are excellent, but I don't believe college transcripts ought to be a requirement for the Office of President. The only place college transcripts matter is consideration for admission into a graduate degree program. It's the only place they matter, and even then other factors are brought into the mix.

                                                • 12 votes
                                                #13.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:25 PM EDT

                                                I had to produce my transcripts in order to receive my teaching credentials. My husband has never had to produce his transcripts, as he did not need them to accept his job offer. As far as I know, a college degree is not a requirement for the job as POTUS. So, I don't understand the fuss.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #13.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

                                                Nobody ever said they were a requirement. I know Harry Truman didn't attend university. But, there it is, why shouldn't people ask about it, however? If the candidate doesn't produce transcripts, people will just assume there is something to hide. If a candidate attended college, I think his/her academic record is as relevant as any other past undertaking. We look into a lot of aspects of their lives and history, including their private lives, their employment. Why not academic record?

                                                Are you saying that you wouldn't even consider it relevant when a candidate runs for president who was barely able to get through college? Being president is a lot more intellectually challenging than going to college. So it sure seems relevant to me.

                                                  #13.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:47 PM EDT

                                                  We look into a lot of aspects of their lives and history, including their private lives, their employment. Why not academic record?

                                                  Ah, but Florida, why is that a requirement for the job? You see, I look at this as a job interview. I want to know his qualifications for the job at hand. I don't care about his sex life. As long as it does not interfere with the job, why should it be a part of the interview? How would you feel if someone wanted to know every aspect of your private life? It's only been in recent years that we've had this obsession with a persons private life. Years ago, it was just that...private! Even politicians!

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #13.5 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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                                                  You left out Perry-Oil slick Perry, dumber than a box of rocks!!

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  Reply#14 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:14 PM EDT

                                                  1964jv: Well, you're right. Still, we don't need to see a college transcript that is thirty years old or older to tell us that. On the other end of the spectrum, Einstein failed third grade mathematics and often made simple mistakes when helping children with high school algebra. I mean some people are dumb enough to vote for one candidate or another based on grade transcripts that are very, very old.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #14.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:20 PM EDT
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                                                  Rick Perry:

                                                  Worst. Candidate. Ever.

                                                  • 15 votes
                                                  Reply#15 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

                                                  No, I think Herman Cain deserves that honor.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #15.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:51 PM EDT

                                                  Idaho,

                                                  I won't try to argue that one with you. It makes my head hurt to try to come up with any pro/con arguments.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #15.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:48 PM EDT

                                                  Michele Bachman hands down! Not that any of them is much better.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #15.3 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:15 AM EDT

                                                  I second Michele Bachman, watching her during the debate I actually felt scared.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #15.4 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
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                                                  Ok, I was at first seriously considering Perry. Now, not a freaking chance. I think I'm gonna stay home come this next election. No body on either side of the fence worth wasting the gas to drive to the voting place.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  Reply#16 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

                                                  Another possible (R) vote bites the dust. Nice!!

                                                  • 16 votes
                                                  #16.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

                                                  Your right, I was considering Perry, I am disappointed that Obama isn't liberal enough for me and isn't fixing the economy....and don't give me that crap about Congress not doing anything, they had a majority for 2 years(despite the fact that Republicans could still filibuster since the Dems only had 59 seats the majority of the time). They could have still accomplished alot, like getting us out of Afghanistan or providing a bigger government stimulus....well, they wasted their opportunity, I'm sure that Romney or Cain will end all of our wars and pass a big enough stimulus to give us all jobs and make our country great again...also I am sure they will shore up Medicare and Social Security. REPULBICANS 2012!!!!

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #16.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

                                                  Hypocrisy,

                                                  On what planet have you been residing the last three years? The majority Obama had was a faux majority. There were something like 14 Blue Dog Democrats who voted more often with the Republican obstructionists than with Obama or the real Democrats. The Republican Party abandoned any pretense of governance by saying no to everything, no matter the hardship it inflicted on ordinary Americans, in order to drive Obama from office. Filibusters were employed far more times than at any other time in our history in the service of getting rid of Obama. And, the Republicans seemed to have gauged the American people correctly, as much of the public blames Obama for getting little or nothing done instead of blaming the obstructionists who have bordered on nihilism. You're one of them, Hypo.

                                                  And if you believe Romney or Cain, if elected, will endorse a stimulus or shore up Medicare and Social Security, you must be smoking some powerful herb. You're no liberal if, for even one day, you considered Perry as anything more than a silly buffoon unworthy of public office.

                                                  Hypo, could it be that you had difficulties in school, and it's too challenging for you to get a handle on what's really going on? It's clear that you can't spell English correctly. "Your right" should be spelled "You're right." You must have forgotten, but it's a contraction of "you" and "are," not a possessive adjective, like "your car." It's easy to write nonsensical blather, Hypo. Try thinking before posting again.

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #16.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:56 PM EDT

                                                  You guys have nobody to vote for! I've never seen the likes of this BS. Sad for all of us. There are alot of issues that are important and need intelligent discussion. Not gonna happen this time.

                                                    #16.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:54 PM EDT

                                                    I understand feeling that way Idaho. I'm a lib, but I believe that we need a better GOP. I don't know what happened, but seeing the GOP commit political suicide is not good for our country. Do consider that fellow Americans have died for our right to vote. A write in on your ballot sends a message, staying home just silences your voice.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #16.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT

                                                    Michael,

                                                    So true. Those blue dogs have to be weeded out over time, along with the Radical Right.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #16.6 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

                                                    Wow Michael, you don't get sarcasm, do you? And I have never considered voting Republican.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #16.7 - Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:18 PM EDT
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                                                    As long as the Tea Party has kidnapped the Republican Party, Bill Maher could run on the "bong in every garage" ticket and win the Presidency.

                                                    • 15 votes
                                                    Reply#17 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

                                                    Perry tried to use the birther radicals to help ignite his moribund campaign and when that backfired on him, as it should have because only crazies belief such tripe, he flipped to another topic of "laying out all the documents" since "mine have been on the front page". Well, I haven't seen his tax returns and am really not impressed by his lack of intelligence based upon his college transcripts (that or laziness in studying). If he can't make above a C on basic course work (including his major), does he have the brains to negotiate with international leaders who may be threats to the security of the United States? For President, we need someone with strong leadership skills, knowledge of the world and the U.S. governmental process, basic honesty and integrity (not subject to bribes and huge campaign donations by people like the Koch brothers). Where have all the statesmen gone? Where has compromise gone? When did a radical minority take control of government? It's time for the voters to elect people who have the best interests of all citizens at heart. It is time to throw those who oppose any positive proposal out and deny them their government pensions and social security. It's time for every citizen to pay his/her fair share of meeting the needs of the people. It's time for the Republicans, who ran in 2010 on a campaign promise to create jobs to actually do something to create jobs. They have not passed one single bill that would create jobs. And, they (led by the TP radicals) vote against every Democratic proposal to create jobs. I'm tired of their obstructionism. I'm tired of their lies. I'm fed up with their hypocrisy. At one time, I voted for the person I considered the best candidate regardless of party. I'll never vote for another Republican unless that party regains their sense and goes back to becoming the party of Lincoln.

                                                    • 13 votes
                                                    Reply#18 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

                                                    bhonest and fair: I agree with everything you said. My wife, who was a Republican for more than fifty years, and I have voted for Republicans in the past, but today, she and I would not vote for a Republican for any office. My brother-in-law, too, came from a staunch Republican family, but he, too, will not vote for a Republican today. My wife, in fact, wrote the Republican National Committee three hot letters in 2008 and marched down to City Hall and changed her registration from Republican to Democrat. She is now among the most staunch Democrats at our Democrat Central Committee meetings. There are hundreds of thousands of former Republicans who have done the same and who continue to do the same.

                                                    • 12 votes
                                                    #18.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:36 PM EDT

                                                    I believe I remember that Perry got a "D" in basic Economics in college on his online transcript. That Mr. Perry is a real joke.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #18.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

                                                    Both parties are helping to create jobs. Their legislation along with treaties are creating jobs in developing countries.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #18.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

                                                    Which might explain why he is anti-intellectual. ie anti education - for them of youse that arent edukated

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #18.4 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:57 AM EDT
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                                                    If there ever was a flip-flopper, Perry is the one. I used to think this man would be a good choice for president, but no more. Particularly his stance on in-state tuition for illegal aliens changed my mind. Besides he appears somewhat "slow", detached, and uninformed in the debates. He is a terrible debater who seems to prefer a good fight instead of answering questions. Go away already!

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    Reply#19 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

                                                    Amos - He's about as swift witted as Bush did that stop you from voting for him. But even I think the flip-flop award goes to Romney, no one is better at that then him.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #19.1 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:21 AM EDT
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                                                    Perry will do anything to catch back with the leaders of the pack. He copied Cain's tax approach and now is copying Romney's backtracking.

                                                    • 8 votes
                                                    Reply#21 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

                                                    Republicans just spew whatever FOX talking point the uninformed voters want to hear.

                                                    What we need is for Republicans to quit obstructing jobs legislation, and work for Americans instead of against us for a change!

                                                    • 18 votes
                                                    Reply#22 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

                                                    Obama, you big tall black man, who the hell are you, anyway? I don't believe you went to Harvard. I don't believe you're even a lawyer. I don't believe you were born in Hawaii. I don't believe you're a Christian. I don't belive you and Michelle were ever legally married. I don't believe anything you say, mister.

                                                    Hell, I don't even believe you're a black man! Uh, I mean, I don't even believe you're a half white, half black man!

                                                    Obama in 2012, if only because some right wingers are truly nuts.

                                                    • 11 votes
                                                    Reply#23 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

                                                    TJefferson: So many people of power did not excel in school, because we stick to generic programs that bore children! Teachers need to find a way to open up that imagination that lye's in all of us. But we choose to cut their pay and add more kids to the class therefore you have teachers that have given up. When something sparks a child'sinterest we should run with it, because once you have their interest the brain becomes thirsty for more. Remember they are our future and it looks to me as though many are trying to dummy us down to 3rd world status. Our future is great as long as we open our mind to change, this isn't 1960 anymore and we have come a long way for the better, only a few are trying to stifle us and they are on there way out because the majority or 99% of us are tired of their tactics. It will be the calm even handed person that keeps us on the right path.(and maybe not so brilliant) Also, if more of us would turn off the damn TV and venture out into the world and see how we can help one another; might find out this life is still full of fun.

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                                                    Reply#24 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT

                                                    If you want to see the kind of teacher you're talking about, then look into "The Hobart Shakespeareans." The teacher is Rafe Esquith and the school is an inner city public school in Los Angeles. Esquith is a 5th grade teacher. The video will make you proud that we have such teachers. The guy is fantastic..........

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                                                    #24.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
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                                                    Just what we need.....another dumb Texan in the White House!

                                                    • 8 votes
                                                    Reply#25 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT

                                                    ssshhhh!!! They'll hear you and not know you're joking!!!!!!

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #25.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

                                                    He's not joking, Perry is dumb as a skunk .

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                                                    #25.2 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

                                                    AKA numb as a hake.

                                                      #25.3 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

                                                      I believe he's that dumb; I don't want anyone to take the "we need another" seriously!!!!

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                                                      #25.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:43 PM EDT

                                                      Perry is every bit as stupid as George W. Bush. If we get another moron republican we will be dragged into the Second Great Republican Depresssion.

                                                      Republicans caused this recession and have worked extremely hard to extend it. The good of the country means nothing to these unAmerican scumbags. The only thing they think about is themselves and their rich donors.

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                                                      #25.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:09 PM EDT
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                                                      Perry acts like a good ole' boy frat rat. Emotionally, he's still in college. Intellectually, he's still in grade school.

                                                      • 5 votes
                                                      Reply#26 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT

                                                      intellectually, he's a fetus. ABORT

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                                                      #26.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
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