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Subscribe to RSSThere are more potential legal headaches for Herman Cain’s presidential campaign: The Internal Revenue Service is being asked to investigate allegations that the Cain campaign’s chief of staff improperly used $40,000 of funds from a tax exempt non-profit to pay for private jets, travel and computers for Cain’s presidential campaign.
In a written complaint being filed today, the Center for Media and Democracy -- a Madison, Wisconsin based watchdog group -- charges that leaked financial records show that Block used a non profit group, called Prosperity USA, to improperly pay Cain campaign expenses. If verified, the group says Prosperity USA – which was founded by Cain’s chief of staff Mark Block -- should be stripped of its tax exempt status.
“A charity founded by Mr. Block appears to have fronted tens of thousands of dollars to a political campaign that was led by Mr. Block … This requires an investigation by the IRS into the charity’s activities and expenditures,” said Lisa Graves, the executive director of the Media and Democracy Group in an eleven page letter to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman.
The Cain campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Monday morning. The campaign’s lawyer last week told NBC News that the Cain campaign takes the allegations “very seriously” and had hired an outside counsel to review the issue ... The Center for Media and Democracy’s letter is the second legal complaint in four days triggered by the publication of Prosperity USA internal financial records by a blogger, Dan Bice, who writes for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The IRS will investigate such complaints, but the probes – which can result in fines and a denial of tax exempt status – can often take years before they are resolved. (On Friday, the Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility filed a complaint alleging election law violations with the Federal Election Commission.)
The leaked records appear to show repeated financial dealings among Prosperity USA, the non profit headed by Block, the Cain campaign, and Americans for Prosperity -- a major political advocacy group founded by oil billionaire David Koch.
Koch, together with his brother, Charles Koch, have pumped tens of millions of dollars into conservative causes in recent years and are widely credited with helping to spawn the emergence of the Tea Party.
Cain, who used to serve as a paid speaker for Americans for Prosperity (AFP), has not shied away from his relationship with the Koch brothers. In a speech at an Americans for Prosperity Conference on Friday, he declared himself the Koch brothers’ “brother from another mother”-- a line that got a boisterously enthusiastic response from the AFP activists at the Washington Convention Center.
But the legal complaints could turn Cain’s Koch connection into a problem for the candidate, even as he struggles to recover from last week’s sexual harassment allegations. (A spokesman for AFP last week said the group was reviewing unspecified “financial dealings” it had with the Cain presidential campaign).
Prosperity USA was one of a number of Wisconsin groups -- all with the name “prosperity” -- that Block started during a period he was serving as the executive director of AFP’s Wisconsin chapter. Entries from the leaked financial documents appear to show AFP funds flowing into Prosperity USA that were then used for the benefit of Cain’s campaign: “From AFP- H.Cain travel- Hill Aircraft,” one of the entries reads.
Non-profits like AFP and Prosperity USA are barred by law from contributing to presidential campaigns. The Center for Media and Democracy’s letter to the IRS commissioner notes that Block has previously been fined for election law violations and was barred from participating in Wisconsin politics for three years.
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It's being reported, Cain's wife took it harder then he did! ;o)
Hermie should of stuck with the Pepsi! lol
Great taste - less filling!
You know, I do like Pepsi Max with my homemade pizza.
Why would the Koch bro's be a problem at all? All they want to do is buy OUR government, and the Supremes say they ARE just like you and me, right? What's all the fuss?
I can see the Koch brothers now with a shopping cart. Think I shall take a governor of Wisconsin here, a president from aisle 2, maybe a few people from Virginia and Florida.........
Hermie's toast. He is still raking in the cash, though, and that is really what his run is about. I can't believe that he really thought he'd be elected president. He's not THAT stupid.
Hermie, you got some 'splainin to do.
Obama/Biden 2012 no explanation necessary
Republicans = "we don't care about sexual harassment", "we don't care about illegal campaign funds".
The fundamental flaw in all of these comments: You think conservatives care. They don't think past the propaganda. They will vote for whomever the machine tells them to vote for. They don't imagine a better world, but instead huddle in fear about some phony threat conjured up by the scare machine that is conservative politics. They are a 12th century party caught in the 21st century. They bomb the Taliban and want to bomb Iran, but at their core is a sensibility that would implement religious purity, a survivalist society, and an oligarchy that protects the wealthy against the masses. Sound familiar? It's a world they fail to illustrate for their voters who don't seem to get it.
Is it too hard to imagine a man with unlimited resourses wanting to control a country and its people, funding a presidential campaign and running a candidate who the average working stiff with no time to investigate may by election time, confuse his dastardly deeds with the sitting president mostly because he is the same race.
In other words Cain is brought down by scandal and by the time the election rolls around the "black man who harasses women" is linked to Obama. I know, its a stretch but consider birthers etc.
That's what she said.
Clearly this guy has no MATH common sense for funding.
When IRS comes after Cain for blatent misappropriation of funds....and Cain keeps insisting that 999 could be solvent....it also proves he can't find a decent advisor.
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Prosperity USA what a disgusting damn joke
TAX EXEMPT STATUS....in a country where poverty is rising, homes are being foreclosed and there is high unemployment....some stupid government agency gave these doodle heads a FREE PASS ON TAXES.
Here's the deal on the Koch brothers.
YOU can't research them because they have deleted their entire history past their TX grandfather and even HE is difficult to find. I have spent hours researching (trying) them.
My best guess is that they are somehow related to Ilse Koch (google her if it hasn't been deleted from the internet like many other things I've ran across...can you say censored?).
Then google Fertinitro if that's still available. And it gets real interesting when you look into Koch enterprises other than oil .... like software encryption like unXis can you say microsoft.
There I've given you just a taste of what I've ran across in my HOURS of research. If you look into any of these alleged activities you can get a feel for why I believe they are despicable people....I don't care how much money they have.
Then there's the little tidbit on Koch Industries subsidiaries doing business with Iran...a terrorist nation.
Oh, and then there's the whole issue that Koch owned petrochemical plants in Arkansas poisoning people by dumping toxic waste near neighborhoods.
Hurri-Cain Herman+Koch=Trash, Cain didn't know about China having Nuc-weapons is just crazy and the Teatards support this Garbage ??????????????
Wow thanks for the fertinitro tip. No wonder the right can't stand venezuela so much..Good for them they took the 35% Koch owned company and used it probably to help pay healthcare costs in their country after the dukes( or whatever aristocratic titles these guys would like )destroyed the enviroment in venezuela...And I don't advocate communisim but that is the extreme you end up with sometimes when a government gets so corrupt it is violenty over-thrown...
I think the slime trail that has been left by the Koch brothers is starting to smell and folks will really find out what these guys are up to - and how many politicians they have bought.
That's pretty much become common knowledge these days.
America has always been as corrupt as any nation. The major difference here is we always finessed that corruption - in the past.
Today, the Republicans (in particular) don't even try to cover their tracks.
The Supremes placed our government officially up for sale.
All these PACs buying our government - well they're people too. So they get to vote and then buy the congressman.
What a good deal for them!
Conservatives are fine with that. Huh!!
What's the difference between the Koch brothers and Soro's? Do you really believe all of Oboma's money came from the little people? Do you all believe anything you're told?
Katie
My scumbag is no worse than your scumbag. Do you have to turn on Fox news to decide what you want for breakfast?
Do we all believe anything we're told? No, unless it came from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
In my further efforts to save time and energy, on behalf of Smiffy, No Joe, Bob, White Collar, etc I'd like to write the following...
...ahem...
WHERE ARE THE ARTICLES ON SOLYNDRA, FAST AND THE FURIOUS, FISKER, FANNIE AND FREDDIE?
(you're welcome)
Such a kind and thoughtful person you are. You just might have saved those fine folks from carpel tunnel syndrome!
Da Noid--thank you for taking care of that--and now for something completely different......
Maybe they are not really stories, and you are just grasping at straws for a "scandal". Are they stupid decisions, probably...maybe even definitely. Any dumber than unpaid for wars, prescription drug plans, defense contracts to shady organizations? Probably not. Get over it, find legit talking points, at least until they become legitimate talking points.
Nurse , Something completely different?
Another attempt to tear down Cain. What the 24 stories last week trying to bury him on FR didn't do it, so let's try another angle. That's different, how?
The Internal Revenue Service is being asked to investigate allegations
What say we wait this time to see what comes of the investigation of the allegations?
Or would you all rather just jump to a conclusion that suits you?
Heck last week, several on this sight had Cain convicted of sexual assault.
You all are fun to watch.
Carry on.
Steve, Da Noid was just mocking those folks who always sing that same song whenever something is brought up against the GOP.
If "I don't need to know foreign affairs and I want to be the commander in chief of the US military" isn't enough to bring Cain down to his legion of drooling idiot followers, I highly doubt a few dollars from the Koch brothers is going to make a difference.
Phew, I was getting so tired of them parroting that when I saw it again I almost had an aneurysm. I always find it funny when they attack the "lame stream" media, unless it is reporting something to their favor.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm not letting you get away with this again.
As I recall it, and I DO recall it, that was a strawman constructed by conservatives --
I distinctly remember Spanky saying, for example, that it's not like it was rape or something.
As if to say, by comparison, it wasn't so bad, was it?
Like this:
See what I mean?
What actually did happen was plenty bad enough.
No AM - I never said that or made that comparision, but I know we all look alike to you, right?
And pray tell, what are the actaul allegation made against Cain?
What actually happened?
And Man, I cannot wait to hear from Allred.
Guess they couldn't find a credible lawyer to represent the latest 'victim.'
WCA--I was being flippant and you took it seriously! Honestly--y'all are fun to watch too--no sense of humor!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Oh and AM - looks like Obama has put himself in the proverbial box.
He can't invoke Executive Priv. without being slammed as a total tool, but he is refusing to produce documents.
So is that how it is now - we can all just ignore ichy subpoenas we no like-y?
You think President 'Constitutional law professor' Obama ever took any classes on civil procedure?
Why I just bet he did.
What now, brown cow?
Oh, yes, you did. Denial is rather unbecoming, Spanky.
I remember it clearly because it startled me and struck me as a rather cheap rhetorical trick.
On the whole, relatively characteristic of you.
I believe that started in the last administration. Ask Dick Cheney about it.
Ask Zeus. After all, he knows everything.
Spanky I don't know who you are but you seriously sound like you have a problem with paranoid delusions. I am fairly certain Obama wants Cain as his competitor, he has zero chance of winning the independent vote. We will take the known over the unknown-I am proud to be corrupt and stupid.
Dick Cheney- the executive branch doesn't answer to the legislative branch. While now we all know that isn't true but given that Obama was the one that covered for Bush by not producing anything coming into office, and telling democrats to back off, did you expect any less?
[I never said that or made that comparision...]
Of course you didn't, "counselor"...now back to the sidelines for you, like your buddy WCA...apparently he likes to watch.
I have no recall of that, I will take your word, but since you seem to be insulting me, perhaps you ought to re-post? I suspect if I did it was in context.
As for Cheney - did they not actually invoke the privilege?
Much different, right?
And no need to bug Cheney when we have your brilliant legal mind.
So AM, applying that briliant legal mind, privileges are part of the law.
Ignoring is not.
I know it. You know it.
Hell even Mickey knows that.
Isn't that right Mickey?
Sooo, "counselor"...seems you "don't recall"? Isn't that a lot like pleading the fifth? Huh... why isn't anyone surprised?
Uh, no Mickey in fact not remembering and asserting the 5th are exactly opposite.
man, maybe you should just stick with trying to insult. Though doesn't seem to be your game.
What's the matter Mickey - can't answer the question from the 'sidelines?"
Let's try it again, shall we Mickey? Now focus-
When is it appropriate to ignore a subpoena?
And what are the consequences Mickey?
It is definitely the media's fault that Cain is a shady scumbucket. How dare they talk about all these allegations. Why can't they just move on to news that was news weeks, months and even years ago?
Hey remember Obama's one-time connection to that has-been-hippie domestic terrorist Ayers? Now THAT's news!
I seem to keep hitting that nerve, eh Jr?
Spanky, you are on the losing end of the "answering questions" game here...everyone else is light years ahead of you, oh ignorant one.
So, whats the new talking point for this post? Ignoring subpoenas? Bravo, "counselor"...bravo. I knew you would let the crowd down.
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to find it. I'm not as clever with the google as you are.
But, yes, it was in context. In the context of changing the subject.
Probably to Solyndra.
Wouldn't presume.
You're obviously a much better lawyer than I am because you know all the tricks.
Well, actually, I must be better at this than I thought --
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8597534-cain-what-part-of-no-dont-some-people-understand?ocid=twitter
But I WAS wrong about changing the subject. It was Biden, not Solyndra.
Exactly right AM - I was not referring to anything Cain did, just Feisty lack of understanding.
So you you were wrong - I did not compare anything to rape.
Thanks for being honest AM. I appreciate it.
And Mickey - you always hit a 'nerve' it's the laughing nerve.
I am always so "impressed" with your responses.
Impressed because they are so consitently silly.
Karl Rove ignored the subpoena entirely of congress, citing orders even after the administration left of silence. Ordering your administration to not answer questions to congress is not invoking Spanky. Ordering them not to answer subpoenas because they don't answer to the legislative branch is not invoking the fifth.
Clearly with your brilliant legal mind you know the difference, please tell me why is it they had legal experts everywhere questioning the legalities of it until Obama just had congress back off.
LoLoL If you truly think that's what just happened here, then you're welcome.
You guys leave Spanky alone, he is just doing what his heroes do, deny remembering everything including his own birthday. How many times did Scooter say he couldn't remember? It seems like the 5th amendment doesn't apply to Repugs, they simply can't remember what the last word they spoke was so there is no chance they can testify against themselves.
Yet they whined about Bill's "It depends on what the meaning of is is."
Now this is the type of "brother" the tea party want in the white house.
As an African American-I get it!!! Who do you think you are fooling?
Da Noid
You are a giver and it is greatly appreciated.
In the fast and furious "scandal" Rep. Elijah Cummings has some new info regarding the Bush administrations knowledge about the program. Hes asked Issa to look into it.
Dont hold your breath....
Are you saying (gasp) that the GOP chairman might be biased? Egads! :)
Fast & Furious began in Texas as Project Gunrunner in 2005? I believe then in 2006 it went national. So you see, it began under the GOP who are screeching that it's all Obama's fault. Amazing.
Someone stick a fork in this turkey, because it's done. It's time for this clown to go back to being a paid con man while the real candidates lose to Obama.
Come on...the man gave a speech and quoted the Pokemon theme song and attributed it to a "great poet". 9-9-9 is taken from Sim City.
And some people take this guy seriously? The whole campaign has been a LITERAL joke. He is laughing at us...but mostly at the TP, because dems and liberals got the joke weeks ago...it's the TPers who still haven't gotten it which is the greatest political irony of all time!!!!!
Yep he is laughing his way to the bank with his ill gotten gains, he has gone to a million dollars to six million dollar net worth. He has his owners though the Koch brothers, I bet they really want him to win, except he has zero shot at winning the general election and is plummeting in the primaries. He won the lotto, and will go down as a dumbed down version of Palin-which is saying a lot really.
I'm trying to figure out who the 'real' candidates are. Only one I can come up with is perhaps Romney. I wonder if the Koch's put all those other crazies in just for the fun of it. NONE of them had a chance. Welll maybe Huntsman but he's been quiet so far. Waiting for him to open his mouth so we can be entertained right up to election day!
Rico,
The bar for being a leading Republican candidate is amazingly low. Evidence, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain all limboed under it. All rocketed to the top of the charts and then began to quickly fizzle out as soon as it became clear they were all best suited for jokes by Leno, Letterman, Stewart and Colbert. The theme song for the GOP Convention should be Steve Perry's Foolish Heart. That's the one that goes "... you've been wrong before, don't be wrong anymore...".
You know, maybe Hermie and the PM of Italy could cut an album together. Just saying.
Imagine.if this is just the tip of things to come.There could probably be pay offs that were never filed in court and paid under the table by cain.You know kinda like when the koch bro.s sold gas equipment to iran through thier germany corp.While sanctions were in place.Kinda of an interesting statement brothers from a different mother. Could be true.In thier DNA to screw people over no matter what.
Some are stubbornly loyal even when it is against their own best interests. They loudly regurgitate the scripted propaganda and fully accept the subterfuge without ever pausing to rationally consider the obvious. I was a long term registered Republican and never have been a Democrat. I had voted for JFK a long time ago and never again for a Democrat until voting against the sociopathic GWBush. I still believe in the Republican philosophies that “government should only do for the people that which they can’t do for themselves” and that “the smallest” (effective) “government is the best government”. However, to not recognize that the current Republican Party has come to totally ignore the valid responsibilities inherent in those philosophies and instead have literally just become “puppets” for the very wealthy, powerful and influential few who strongly support them and who “pull their strings”, is to accept being used and abused. To not recognize their arrogance and cockiness as they stubbornly cater exclusively to the few, being obnoxiously confident in the money and power that allows them to effectively con the people and to manipulate public opinion, is to accept being taken for granted and to then just be “pawns” in their game of politics.
Bush-Cheney took that biased concentration for the few (1%) to the extreme, totally supported and since continued by the full Republican Party, with everything they do being aimed to benefit “big money”, their strong supporters, and without any conscience or guilt over just offering the majority (99%) only apathy, the costs and the subterfuge to rationalize and deceive. The list is long, very costly and would be denied only by those attempting to further the deception. There has been the designed efforts by those powerful supporters to control public opinion in manipulating the Christian block, with the Swift-boat propaganda and with the formation of the Tea Party movement; all being well organized, well directed and well financed efforts to sway the people in the same single direction. To not recognize those as programed efforts, both overt and covert, would be totally naive. Since 2008 the Republicans, along with their supporters, have done everything, without guilt, hesitation or any concern for the costs to the people, to just fault, block and to have Obama fail, putting their political ambitions above all else. Throughout the process they offered nothing constructive and rejected all opportunities for bipartisanship (which amounts to rejecting the way our government is suppose to work). The bold arrogance and irresponsible stubbornness of Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Ryan, Kyl and more have been totally obvious. Then the candidates they offer have had questionable qualifications, always presenting extremes to grab emotions and attention and who simply are ready to be “puppets” controlled by others; examples: O’Donnell, Palin, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, ,,; again just taking the voters for granted. Their one fixation, besides faulting Obama for everything, has always been for protecting and furthering tax cuts for the wealthy, with all of their proposals recommending increases for everyone else. There really can be no doubt where their focused loyalty is nor that it isn’t for the people.
They are effectively owned and controlled by “the money” that they depend on and then serve and, as if that isn’t bad enough, they literally insultingly take the public for granted. Groups like Norquist’s, of “anti-tax pledge” fame, Cheney’s, Rove’s, SuperPacs and others collect the substantial contributions from the wealthy and use them to: first, intimate and coerce their own, even bragging they can “make or break” anyone, literally squelching individual consciences to insure unity behind “the money’s” interests; and second, for supporting their extensive advertising and aggressive campaigns to control public opinion and have their will prevail. Everyone is concerned about Jobs and the economy but the Republicans focus on tax breaks for the wealthy and policies to benefit “big money”, ignoring that Bush-Cheney proved beyond any doubt that the “trickle down” theory is a total fraud. Norquist has said that “the next Republican President’s qualifications aren’t important as all they have to do is sign the bills sent to them by Boehner and McConnell”. Now that really is a lot of gall and clearly indicates what they want and expect is to just have “puppets” to do what they are told. Again quoting Norquist, he said “Cain’s 999 proposal didn’t raise taxes, so he wouldn’t fault it”. What he conveniently left out was that, as all of their tax proposals do, it would drastically lower taxes for the wealthy and significantly raise them for most everyone else. Everything they do and say favors the few who strongly support them and together they are cocky confident in their ability to con the people and manipulate public opinion, even being emboldened by past successes. There is no altruistic motivation, only a deceptive self-serving concentration. Even the media is simply owned and controlled by “big money” and not unlikely has their subtle dictates. Nowhere in there is there any conscientious real concern for the majority - who literally keep loosing ground as the wealthy keep gaining.
To ignore all of it is to accept being duped and used while we are moved towards becoming a two-class society where the few have it all and the majority has little. If anyone doubts that, all they have to do is compare what has consistently happened under Republican rule. The people can accept a return to “more of the same”, Bush-Cheney style, and the accompanying continuation of all of the above or they can give them the message that we want the Grande Ole Party back, that was sincerely concerned with the people, by just firmly and totally rejecting what they have become: it is the voters choice!
Agreed! However the 99% are gaining a voice the world over. Maybe its not totally a lost cause.
Very, very, well said.
If the Repubs allow everyone their right to vote...
My personal experience has been that there really is biased editing that happens on some news sites. With CNN I have seen several times where I posted something that was accepted “subject to moderation” and then it just disappears and on FOX I have been literally cut off, effectively blocked from even getting to the comments. My postings are not crude, vulgar or inappropriate, in fact, I think they can be considered tastefully done and relevant. I expect that some will agree with what I offer, some will disagree and others will just think about it and still others will likely ignore all of it. All of that is okay and is the way it should be ... but the media should never be editing based on their biased preferences ... yet they do!
I simply express what I think needs to be said and what I think is the truth, as I feel others do. For the site to selectively choose postings according to it’s political bias is absolutely wrong. I don’t doubt that the media always exerts some bias, likely very subtle, as the media is literally owned and controlled by “big money” and the Republican / Tea Party is effectively owned and controlled by “big money”; to think otherwise would be naive. If anyone agrees with me and they feel like copying my comments and posting them on these edited sites, feel free to do so. If the sites get multiples, it serves them right.
"With CNN I have seen several times where I posted something that was accepted “subject to moderation” and then it just disappears"
Yep, same here. CNN the Controlled News Network.
Like the fair and balanced right wing propaganda Fox news pumps out continuously, it would seem mainstream cable media have taken their political stands. If you don't like it here don't read it, would be my suggestion. As much as there is to detest about the media, I agree with Jefferson, I would rather have media without government than a government without media.
as if Cain or the Koch bros dont have enough money that they need to use money from a non profit group now for their campaign huh ??? And this is the type of man some of you want in the white house eh ???........seems to me you nutcases are a way bigger problem than Hermie ever was..........and it really does show
Cain is right, there are some pretty poweful people that DON'T want him running anymore. He started getting a little too dangerous for their agenda.
There is a serious issue of electability and your right, there are those in the GOP and on wall street that would sacrifice him rather than put him up when his extreme views and ignorance has turned off independents and moderates alike.
The Koch brothers money is being illegally manipulated? (Yawn) Say it isn't so!!! Almost like Murdoch's illegal dealing with Iran. Here today......then nothing more said about it. Ain't it grand the way our news is controlled??
I thought it was the Koch brothers dealing with Iran? Either way, it hit the news then suddenly disappeared. So the TPers are backed by Iranian sympathizers. Yes there will be another war and it will be with Iran just as Israel is saying. Guess who benefits.
To my knowledge it was the Koch brothers that dealt with Iran, I hadn't heard of Murdoch doing that, his organization just bugs the cell phones of underage rape victims in england.
Another scandal, another jump in the pols and donations. Gotta admit, he knows the Koch people!
Remember the pizza ad that said avoid da noid. Its gone now because the add sucked. Anything with da noid can't be good. The government made a bad investment. Just like shrub Bush in Iraq. But bush's investment lost American lives. So if you want we can go back and look at bad choices all others have made.
Well you knew the "killer cain is the koch brothers whore. He's been bought and paid for. When the koch"s say Jump! Hermmi says "How High?"
I see no reason we should not support Cain and make sure he get's the Republican nomination. His morals, integrity, statesmanship, his handling of high pressure situations and his business skills make him and ideal candidate to represent the Republicans and Tea Party. Democrats for Cain for President 2012!
Please please get the nomination!
They so don't get that the liberals have any reason to bring Cain down, he is unelectable in the general election where people would consider his foreign policy -none-he doesn't need to know- a complete problem and vote in Obama.
I smell 15 minutes of fame for this woman appearing with Gloria Allred at 1:30.
Where was this woman in the 1990s? Why no informal complaint?
One other note. To be fair, does it strike anyone else as a tad bit odd that there seem to be copy-cat cases emerging with these two additional women - #s 3 and 4 - from the short NRA tenure of Mr. Cain - and absolutely nothing from the rest of his long 40 year plus business career?? Kind of curious
Cain is getting his 15 minutes right now. This woman won't even get 5.
Just another example of the rampant corruption that is woven into politics in general.. It is time to flush the toilet that is capital Hill. Time to tear down and rebuild.
we are going to find out the Koch brothers are two of the four horsemen of the Apocylypse. It is never good to go riding with them.
Surely the Koch brothers are not expecting anything in return from Herman. They must be supporting him out of the goodness of their hearts.
Wait are you really suggesting that there is goodness in the Koch hearts? You just blew my mind at the very thought. I think this was a failed experiment like hiring someone to debunk global warming, only to have them say they couldn't disprove it. Darn those ethical scientists that can't be bought.
I don't know if this story is true or if Cain supposedly made rude comments to a few women but the bigger issue is why are the media and these liberal "watchdog" groups going after every single Republican candidate so hard? Why can't liberals debate the issues, why can't they create answers to our economic problems and why do they resort to "dumpster diving" every single time their power is threatened. Clinton was a major womanizer but the media left that alone while he was running for office. John Edwards was sleeping with his videographer and you can't tell me that nobody in the media knew it. Liberals have a double standard but they justify it because they don't think we should have a debate, they don't think there should be two sides to the coin, there is only their way or no way.
How is it that the right doesn't get that THEY ARE THE HOLIER-THAN-THOU party and have insisted that they be judged by different criteria? These are your silly rules. Anyone can witness the morally superior pontificating on FOX NEWS. The conservative hypocrisy has gone on for decades. There's a fairly lengthy list of ministers, politicians, and media types who have sought attention and votes for their superior morality. They are reaping the harvest of their lies. The right is NOT superior in any way.
you will get your debate from liberals when the time comes. It's to much fun watching all the idiots you aguys are parading around as promising candidates. they are not ready for obama and his teleprompter. It will be a chess champ against a checker champ.
"Why can't liberals debate the issues????? Try to debate, talk, make sense of, reason with the GOP/Teabags
when all they can say is "NO"? Look at the GOP debates with them self's......its who can out bluster who.
Please keep your field of clowns......we love it.
Hey Da Noid, look up your arse for the articles you seek. Why aren't Bush & Cheney sitting in cells at the Hague??? War Crimes are war Crimes unless Republicans do it, of course... That has to be the most 2 faced party in the world.....
Eddie,
Glad I'm not the only one out here who thinks Bush/Cheney should be in the Hague. How many thousands of innocent deaths were they responsible for?
There was full media coverage of Kennedy/ies, Clinton, Edwards, and Weiner. Some may have not liked the outcome, especially given the numbers of self-proclaimed pro-family-values politicians who seemed to have their own problems in following divine precepts, producing the Pee-Wee-esque responses of "I know you are but what am I?"
Actually, that does Pee Wee a disservice: It's much more like a sibling squabble -- the "he did it, too!" school of self-justification.
I don't get it...the flip flopping republican primary voters that is...they've gone from one loser to progressivewly bigger losers in their quest for purity...the adored simple Sarah for three years until she really did take the money and gave them the finger...then it was michelle bachmann turner inoverherhead...then it was rick pray with me perry...then it was herman hands cain and now newt the serial philandrer is on the rise...
If only they would just accept that the GOP establishment has picked Romney and so it will be. They could do away with the rise and dramatic topplings of the tea party fools.
I despise Hermain Cain but I give him accolades for his personal accomplishments. It's just that I can't get the perception out of my head that he is one of those guys still running around saying yassuh massah, you got it massah! so he did well in the corporate world, now he has gotten the impression that he belongs with the elite skull and bone clubs. Well I don't think so! he is the only one who believes he has a chance besides the idiots who believe everything that the Fox propaganda machine tells them.
Hermain Cain, you will be used and discarded just like your party brothers did to Michael Steel. Even a blind man could see how Steel was only selected as party chairman to try and diffuse the thought that the grand old party was not just a good old boys party and not racist. as soon as they figured that didn't work, they threw Steel to the wolves too, calling him incompetent.
Cain ride high on your falsified poll numbers because they really don't mean S%@t to us who are critical thinkers. We know that the only chance you have in winning the good ole boy nomination is you have got to pledge to do what ever you are told and to not ask any questions unless you have been given permission.
Cain is a foolish black man with no sense of self, since he has gotten to ride shotgun with the big boys he thinks he has the right to call himself one of them. Hah! BTW don't come back to GA! we don't like sell outs!
But he rocks a cool pimp hat.
Cain has that irresistable smile that , in his mind, makes him irresistable.
Lets just sit back and do nothing. While hundred of thousands of people unemployment benefits ran out. Over 35% of the people are skipping out on their medical bills. Jobs went overseas for cheap wages and not coming back. We have too many people not enough to go around. Its time to stop kicking the can and get real. Support the GOP 2012 maybe they can't start another war to get rid of some of these people.