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Subscribe to RSSA new NBC News-Marist poll of NH Republicans shows Romney with a 20-point lead. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
Just four days until Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney now enjoys a 20-point advantage over his nearest rival in the Granite State, according to a new NBC News-Marist poll conducted after his photo-finish victory in Iowa.
Click here to read the full NBC News-Marist poll results
The survey also shows a double-digit bounce since late November in the state for former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum – who trailed Romney by a mere eight votes in Iowa – as well as a 15-point decline for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
And it finds that New Hampshire voters have begun to make up their minds before the Jan. 10 contest, with six in 10 now strongly supporting their candidate of choice.
According to the poll, Romney gets the backing of 42 percent of likely Republican primary voters in New Hampshire, including those leaning toward a particular candidate.
He’s followed by Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 22 percent, Santorum at 13 percent, Gingrich and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman both tied at 9 percent, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry at 1 percent.
More than a month ago – in an NBC-Marist poll conducted Nov. 28-30 – Romney stood at 39 percent, Gingrich at 24 percent, Paul at 16 percent, Huntsman at 9 percent, Perry at 3 percent and Santorum at 2 percent.
What’s more in this newest survey, 60 percent of likely voters say they strongly support their candidate of choice, up from 49 percent in the last poll. Just 11 percent say they might vote differently.
Electability and ideology help Romney
Electability and the state’s ideological makeup are helping Romney in New Hampshire.
Sixty-five percent of likely primary voters believe that the former Massachusetts governor has the best chance of beating President Barack Obama in November. And more than 60 percent of these voters prefer an electable nominee to one who is a true conservative.
Romney still underperforms among conservative voters, Tea Party supporters and evangelical Christians in the state -- but not to the extent he did in Iowa.
'Meet The Press' moderator David Gregory joins Brian Williams.
Indeed, he leads among very conservative voters (getting 30 percent to 27 percent for Santorum), Tea Party supporters (35 percent to Paul’s 25 percent) and evangelical Christians (31 percent to Santorum’s 30 percent).
In addition, there are fewer of these more conservative voters in New Hampshire than there were in Iowa.
“New Hampshire is a very different ballgame than Iowa,” says Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist College’s Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the survey.
Paul’s low ceiling, debates matter
While Paul sits in second place in the NBC-Marist poll, he has a lower ceiling than Santorum has. Forty-three percent of likely voters find Paul unacceptable, versus 25 percent who say the same about Santorum.
Meanwhile, 44 percent find Gingrich unacceptable, and 54 percent find Perry unacceptable.
Just 16 percent of these voters say that Romney is not acceptable.
The poll also shows that the debates – and two more of them take place this weekend – have mattered to New Hampshire voters.
A combined 45 percent say they have helped decide their vote a “great deal” or a “good amount.” That’s compared with a combined 10 percent who say the same about the results from the Iowa caucuses, and a combined 20 percent who say the same thing about seeing the candidates in person.
Obama remains under water in New Hampshire
Finally, President Obama’s job-approval rating in New Hampshire stands at 40 percent among registered voters, which is identical to where it was in late November.
He carried New Hampshire by nearly 10 percentage points in the 2008 general election.
The NBC-Marist poll was conducted Jan. 4-5, and its margin of error for the 2,260 registered voters surveyed is plus-minus 2.1 percentage points. The margin of error for the 711 likely New Hampshire Republican primary voters is plus-minus 3.7 percentage points.
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Good luck with THAT! lol
PS: Has the tea potty run out of steam?
The flush don't work 'cause the Vandals took the handle.
sorry Bob
Ron Paul is the only honest candidate republican or democrat, he should just run independent the country is ready for a real change.
Hmmmmmmm. Rocky Anderson. Hmmmmmmm.
Would that be the same Ron Paul who has been endorsed by David Duke?
Thanks... but NO thanks!
We have enough problems in this country without electing a senile 76 year old RACIST to the highest office in the land!
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Tea Potty... ha ha! I feel so enlighted, thanks Feisty Orangehead!
Feisty redhead is probably in her 30's, IQ of about 102 and can be led by the pied piper. Obama has done zero for this country. I'm not sure how you go about arguing any different. He had zero accomplishments before he got to the white house and has continued in the same vein. The people see it. The only ones who dont are those with their hand out for free stuff. I'll go out on a limb and bet you are one of those that think somehow something is owed to them. Guess what...taxpayers owe you zero if you contribute zero. People are sick of freeloaders. It's that simple. The Obama Philosophy is Socialism. If you cant see that you are nothing more than a simpleton.
The Obama Philosophy is Socialism.
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Nah. Even at his most progressive, Obama is at best center-right. Now if one was to google Rocky Anderson...........Hmmmmmmmm!
What you are going to see, is Obama and Clinton on the Dem. ticket. Biden will step down.
68% of likely primary voters believe that the sun rotates around the earth. 73% believe that the earth is 6,000 years old. 47% don't know how babies are made.
Gee grungey, think you could pull that chaw out of your cheek, you're spittin' all over us.
Why don't you tell us what Bush did for this country, or what Romney would do.
Really! And what people is that? The ones glued to Fox? From what I've seen and heard, Obama would easily be re-elected if it were held today
If that's all you got, then you've lost already. This country has bigger issues than that. How about the corporate freeloaders that live in $10 million mansions, pay no taxes, and put your money in a Swiss bank account?
Ron Paul is in it for the long haul.
Peace leads to prosperity.
ROMNEY'S "Business experience" consisted of buying companies, laying off workers, stripping pension funds, and taking the companies public again - 80% of which shortly went bankrupt.
THE STORY OF TWO MEN TRAPPED IN ONE BODY
WHO IS RON PAUL:
scrunsdy..... you hit the nail right on the head with redhead. She also sits staring at her computer 24/7 trying to be the "first in line" on comments.
She never has anything of substance to post it is always name calling. No facts, no figures no debate, no well developed thoughts.............. just name calling like a child on the playground.
Everything is "this person is a "BLANK" or that person is just a "BLANK". YOU ARE A BLANK.
She is definitely a government worker or someone on government assistance. I hope the new drug testing coming for all these will get her off the "federal support bandwagon" so she can sober up and become a taxpayer.
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Jim,
If this doesn't scare the @!$%# out of you, I don't know what it will take!
What is it with Feisty and her always posting first on these articles? Jesus, I'm a moderate liberal, and even I find her annoying. She never adds any substance. Just more and more personal attacks.
Green is NOT a good color for you sweet cheeks!
Best to stick with yellow! ☺
Big deal that David Duke endorses Paul. I have read some of his stuff. He pretty much gets it right. Both parties have been bought off by Zionist bankers, who want to use war as a ruse/excuse to turn us into serfs. Also they want to destroy any competing monetary system as in Islamic finance(risk sharing, no usury) and the Chinese model.
Feisty Redhead: Any candidate can be "endorsed" by anyone, so your point about David Duke allegedly endorsing Ron Paul carries no weight.
@Feisty
Gawd people like getting slapped on this site.
Is it me or does David Gregory have the "hots" for Mitt Romney?
And dominatrix Feisty is more than happy to oblige!
Let us not forget Ron Paul's very own newsletters? Keep on drinking the koo-aide, it worked out SO well for Jim Jones & his 'followers'...
It's like leave cookie crumbs for the racists... to follow back to the Klan rally! ☺
BTW - ideolog - I'll have another martini if you don't mind... maybe some day I'll tell you how the bedroom became so messy! ;o))
Aw phine, wait till Dvaid gets a load of you ... Gromit will be history %-)
Think he might prefer Mr. phinephancy (even if David is married w/kids) You know, he and Dubya WERE mighty close (Gregory).
BTW - ideolog - I'll have another martini if you don't mind... maybe some day I'll tell you how the bedroom became so messy! ;o))
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Drink up ... unlike many here who have a futile imagination, mine is quite fertile and sometimes you need all the sheets to clean up the mess ... save a pillowcase for Robert Bruce70 and cut some eye slits in it
Feisty and followers: Let me say this, i am a ron paul supporter and I think you are completely off. First of all if you wanna go all conspiracy then you need to look at the presidents that have been running this country and then you should know they are tied to all kinds of inhumane things:like purposely trying to reduce the population, slaughtering fellow Americans in a war started under false reason etc.. i could go on all day. I think because ron paul has been so upstanding in his POLITICAL career as far as sticking to OUR American ideals, people can't find anything on him' so they are attacking people who ENDORSE him. I don't believe he is a racist. What ron paul speaks of, supports(by votes and non votes),and stands for is what I want in a candidate. people keep voting for these cookie cutter presidents. groomed for presidency, chosen for you by the owned press, and you actually believe you are making a choice. Obama was supposed to be BIG change. He signed into law a bill that threatens our rights as citizens against illegal detention. He gave billions to crooked banks, he wanted to further impinge on our rights by FORCING medical insurance on us. He was just a different face to the same agenda. If you find ron such a nut then hey vote for him just so you can get someone in the whitehouse that is not owned by big corporation. He wants to give you back your rights, he supports the constitution and he wants to give states the autonomy they once had. For all you know every man in congress could be a racist. Who knows what bones are in their closets. They look all upstanding and their pockets are lined with corporate money. Ron paul as far as i can see has stuck to his guns even if he was of the very few saying no. We need that in a president, cause right now i havn't seen any of these presidents do what the people needed, they have put on a happy face while robbing us of rights and our hard earned money. "If you keep doing the same thing and getting the same result; try something different!"
Mitt Romney's top campaign contributors:
Goldman Sachs $235,275
Citigroup Inc $178,450
Merrill Lynch $176,125
Morgan Stanley $170,350
Lehman Brothers $154,800U
BS AG $125,150
JPMorgan Chase & Co $123,800
Bain & Co $121,475
Marriott International $121,150
Bain Capital $118,550
Kirkland & Ellis $111,700
The Villages $110,900
Credit Suisse Group $104,900
Compuware Corp $103,550
Huron Consulting $102,050
PricewaterhouseCoopers $92,250
American Financial Group $87,550
Affiliated Managers Group $82,112
Cerberus Capital Management $79,450
Sun Capital Partners $77,850
WHO DO YOU THINK THIS BLOKE WORKS FOR?
feisty -- be careful; remember that louis farrakhan endorsed obama 4 years ago. if paul is guilty by association then most clearly obama is just as guilty. he only very softly denounced the endorsement before hillary challenged him and then he rejected it.
same stuff, different day. little hope, no change
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I'm afraid I must agree with this. Just because some racists supported Ron Paul does not mean Ron Paul is a racist (he may have once been, but he renounced those views quite a while ago). Many radical Muslims endorsed Obama, but this does not mean Obama is a Muslim.
Thei4 -- obama's top contributors --
WHO DO YOU THINK THIS BLOKE WORKS FOR?
University of California
$1,648,685
Goldman Sachs
$1,013,091
Harvard University
$878,164
Microsoft Corp
$852,167
Google Inc
$814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co
$808,799
Citigroup Inc
$736,771
Time Warner
$624,618
Sidley Austin LLP
$600,298
Stanford University
$595,716
National Amusements Inc
$563,798
WilmerHale LLP
$550,668
Columbia University
$547,852
Skadden, Arps et al
$543,539
UBS AG
$532,674
IBM Corp
$532,372
General Electric
$529,855
US Government
$513,308
Morgan Stanley
$512,232
Latham & Watkins
$503,295
And you think I dont know that? Ron Paul 2012!
The socialist/marxist President of Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega, endorsed Barack Obama for President.
Anybody can endorse anybody for anything. If Feisty gives credibility for one endorsement, then needs be all of them deserve the same respect.
I think that simply shows have ironic your post is, James. two of Obama's top 5 are universities. Another two are software companies, an area of business that is generally not associated with the typical "corrupt businessman" appearance. I do not know what you mean by "who does this guy work for?". If you look at Paul's list, all of his top five are banks.
If your a gun owner or a hunter just beware if Santorum gets in office. He's a tre hugging animals rights activist gun hating hunter hating moron.......Romney is a joke just another puppet for big business...... Only right candidate for the office is Ron Paul at least that man knows what the constitution is and is willing to stand his ground to defend it and the american people.........But not to worry the polished turd in Washington won't let it get past august before he declares martial law on the whole country and declares himself Fuehrer and comes for your guns and the rest of your rights and your souls
Mr. Anon you are entirely wrong. Here are Dr. Pauls donations for Q 3 per open secrets.org
Ron Paul for Congress Cmte
$500,000
US Army
$24,503
US Air Force
$23,335
US Navy
$17,432
Mason Capital Management
$14,000
Reverence, outside of the top one (which doesn't belong in this conversation anyways), none of those sources are as big as Thel4ugh listed. You'll see that I refered to his top 5 sources, not all of his sources.
Romney is no more electable then John McCain. A choice of Obama number one and Obama number two is no choice at all and because of that expect vast segments of the Republican electorate to just say to hell with voting in the election. Obama will beat this liberal by a land slide.
Mr Anon -
While I agree that education is extremely important, You cannot take any human run organization and put it on a pedestal. Universities are not immune from Greed. They've got you because you see them sacred, that any request should be approved.
Just look at all the scandals from the athletics section. That is over getting money for the university - not only in donations, but advertising money from the networks.
Just like Business, they overpay executives, lobby congress, possibly results (East Anglia). They pay whatever necessary to hide negative publicity to protect their name, and are not immune to contributing in order to potentially get government research grants.
Tuition goes up at a rate equal to or greater than that of healthcare. All I see is more complaints from industry that our education isn't good enough and they don't turn out enough kids with the right background and skills.
I'd rather see them put that campaign money into educating our kids then buying of a politician.
The Devil - you haven't been through very many election cycles to make such a projection.
When any politician has less than 50% approval, they have a very hard time getting re-elected. To win, he has to pull out all the stops on negativity (Romney used this on Gingrich in Iowa.
Bush 43 - Jan 2004 56% at election 52% - Re-elected
Clinton - Jan 1996 47% at election 58% - Re-elected
Bush 41 - Jan 1992 42% - at election 37% - LOST
Reagan - Jan 1984 49% - at election 57% - Re-Elected
Carter - Jan 1980 43% - at election 38% - Lost
Gerald Ford - Jan 1976 - 47% - at election 48% - Lost
Nixon - Jan 1972 50% - at Election 58% - Re-Elected
Lyndon Johnson - Jan 1964 - 73% - at Election 68% - Re-Elected
Lyndon Johnson - Jan 1968 - 43% - Chose not to Run - Replacement LOST
Dwight D Eisenhower - Jan 1956 - 72% - at Election 56% - Re-Elected
Harry Truman - Jan 1948 55% - at Election 69% -Re-Elected
Obama's current approval for the source is 45%. This is up from 43% last month. He has to get an average over 50% to be re-elected.
"Why don't you tell us what Bush did for this country, or what Romney would do."
Bush almost destroyed the world economics....
Mitts tax plan is silly raise taxes 60% on poor people give a 2.5% tax break to the middle class and a 15% tax break for the rich he says will create jobs......
Where has he been these last fe years the Bush tax cuts failed to create jobs now he wants to go down that road again?
Then he tells us the Romney care (some call it Obama care but the main reason Republicans are testy over it was thought of by Romney) will only work for Mass not the entire country?????/ Where do they get these people.
Ranman87
She works for them. The sad part is, this is the best they can come up with. This is a propaganda site, nothing more.
Feisty: it just seems to me that people have forgotten who the John Birch Society is and what they stand for. It must be that.
So. All of you that support Paul, Google John Birch Society and read the history.
Ron Paul knows nothing about the Constitution, he is for helping one person:
Ron Paul.
You give these clowns too much credit NDD...
They didn't 'forget' what the John Birch Society stands for, instead they have chosen to IGNORE it!
Remember, William F. Buckley drove the John Birch Society out of the Repubican Party, until 2010 when they opened their arms to welcome them back in!
As far as the Louis Farrakhan endorsement, then Senator Obama DENOUNCED it!
Period!
Why hasn't Ron Paul followed suit with David Duke?
Here's what Wikipedia says:
The John Birch Society is an American political advocacy group that supports anti-communism, limited government, a Constitutional Republic and personal freedom. It has been described as radical right-wing.
Obama never denounced the Daniel Ortega endorsement.
Maybe he ignored it. I wonder if Ron Paul should follow suit?
2012 Will go down in history as the year Republicans mainstreamed crazy!
Where is Buckley when you need him?
I imagine he's in the same place as Kennedy.
I am rather amused that you are a Buckley aficionado.
A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!' ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views. ~ William F. Buckley, Jr.
Those were Romney's that Thel4ugh listed not Dr. Paul's
yahoo its Romney.
I'll make anyone a $10,000 Willard style bet that in 2012 its still Obama/Biden and Romney will still be taxed at the 15% rate, same as all those coupon clipping billionaires.
Paxil you still owe me 10k from Iowa -- being a lib I know your a deadbeat so don't sweat it
Hey Rob in ma. Your is possessive. You meant to say you're a deadbeat. Now if you can't remember this, you can do what many republicans do and say u r a deadbeat.
It will not be Obama/Biden. What you are going to see is Obama/Clinton mark my words. I'll take that bet ! Biden will step down. Clinton is a much better running mate. Clinton 2016 ? ? ?
Obama rode an avalanche into the White House on dissatisfied anti-Bush and minorities that has seen its day. What change came about?
Being as how the Republicans stepped up to the plate and helped the country get back on its feet....Wait thats not true is it... Thinking people are going to see your argument is mute because of the tactics of the republicans since they got beat so bad after Bush. Now we are being asked to return the same bunch of know nothing rich folks sho lickers to the control of our country that ruined it when they had a chance to improve it and turned their back on thos that tried to fix it when they were needed.
Romney 2012 for jobs jobs jobs.....
NBC today ( Chuck,Mark & Domenico) : "it is absolutely clear that (Obama) and his team want a fight with Congress -- and any legal challenge that comes with it. "
This is so UN American..........for a President (Obama) to be looking for a fight with Congress instead of looking to bridge gaps between the Parties in order to do "the people's business" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention, in 2008 Obama was running around the country saying "I will rise above the partisan divide in Washington....bla bla bla "
Romney 2012.
Do you seriously believe people are going to fall for THAT bull@!$%# again? lol
Leona honey - hang tight!
The med cart should be there any minute - they ran out of applesauce to put your 'parrot' pills in!
Obama/Biden 2012 - for the sake of the 99%!
PS: And YES my daughter is extremely proud of me! While she has nothing but pity for you little GNOP parrot!
. . . so what Leona? President Obama should let Republicans act like spoiled children in Congress, hold up the people's business and to hell with our country? Newsflash! Republicans hate him. They say that on a daily basis. Who in their right mind continues working with people who hate them? You and Romney have much in common. "Why don't they like me?" Because you are disingenuine.
that will be outsourced to Mexico, China, India, or wherever the cheapest available labor is. If you believe this corporate vulture is sincere about employing middle class Americans, well then I have some swampland in the desert to sell you
Leona, the President fighting with Congress is as American as apple pie. That's why there is a separation of powers in the Constitution. You want YOUR favorites to fight for what they believe in, but if the President does it, it is un-American? Pathetic.
Now, Leona is preaching "Can't we all get along" Well I'll be danged!
Leona, Only problem President Obama had coming in as President was naivity in thinking compromise was the solution with the Congress of 'NO.' Compromise to the GOTP is 95% (Bonehead quote) for them or no deal, with maybe 1 or 2 Dems voting with them and you call that bipartism compromise? You can't bridge a gap when no one on the other side holding the rope is working with the President, because they are too busy cow-towing to the extreme right fringe, obstructing and lying about President Obama's accomplishments because they don't have the GOTP stamp on them, instead of an AMERICAN stamp on them.
Obama/Biden??? Hahaha! Here, have some more kool-aid! The country hasn't suffered enough these past three years? No way. RON PAUL 2012!!!
Leona: 'This is so UN American..........for a President (Obama) to be looking for a fight with Congress instead of looking to bridge gaps between the Parties in order to do "the people's business"'.
It's kinda late to cry over spilled milk, get back in bed and weep your heart out. Were you asleep when the tea-infested GOP were burning their bridges with their blatant lies and obstructionism? They left no retreat from their actions, their sad demise is imminent.
Well, the man in the White House has gotta do what the man's gotta do.
Obama-Biden 2012
Who is this Feisty Carrot top Clown? She writes nothing but garbage! I think a simple IQ test should be taken before you can write anything on here!
When the healthcare debates started in 09 and John NcCain wanted to have input, Obama is the man who said " John the election is over, I WON."
Obama is the man who said " The Republicans can sit in the back seat."
Obama is the Divider-in-Chief...........................please put the kool aid down people.
As far as JOBS go, Romney is a business man and Obama ( college professor wouldn't know how to create a private sector job if his life depended on it.
Obama is trying to destroy any chance Boeing has to create 1000 NON Union jobs in S.Carolina. Obama is a Union lackey.
Leona, Obama offered bills that were part and parcel what the GOP congress suggested, and was rejected. While his (Obama's) supporters were biting fingernails on the sidelines at his overtures across the aisle, the GOP congress was stating that their first priority was not America's well being, but was to make Obama a 1 term president. The American People have seen with their own eyes the lies and criminality of the Congressional GOP. It's time to wipe that cancer out of our government and let us recover from their crimes.
Mitt Romney? That's the best you righties have? A guy who has NO convictions, who stands for absolutely nothing? Mitt Romney is nothing but a Washington WHORE who has taken both sides of EVERY MAJOR ISSUE. You righties try to say Obama is just as much a liar as Romney, but you also say that everything Obama does proves that he is a communist, socialist, Muslim terrorist sympathizer. Well, which is it? You demented freaks can't have it both ways. Is President Obama consistent or isn't he? Romney would suck dick from now till November if he thought it would give him the presidency, how can anyone vote for this total slimeball?
Leroy you sound upset , I do understand though , I don't know if Mitt is a whore or Obama is a socialist , I just want Wall street to start lending again . For some reason they won't right now . Maybe after this election they will .
The best ticket for repubs & dem's would be Obama/Romney or Romney/Obama same old bs..Vote Ron Paul he is the only honest candidate that would make real changes.
Bad, bad Leroy Brown. I like your fire, but you had better tone it down or the mods will run you off.
Pssssst - you can re-register, change your name and come back again. Thats how the teabagger trolls do it.
Haven't had to yet, Tony, though I have been suspended for a day a couple times. How the moderators can ban ANYONE, when they allow the vile, disgusting, ridiculous absurdities directed at their own president to stand, is beyond me.
Hey leroy brown baddest mf,er in the whole darn town go google ndaa then tell me what you think of your kenyan leader.
Ron Paul lovers all over this blog. They know how to organize, I just hope their having fun.
He should become an independent he won't have embarrass himself with those GOP bigots any longer.
It must be Friday night, all the nuts are here fueled by something, whatever it is, it is neither common sense or good sense.
Romney almost lost to a guy who could not even get reelected in his home state. He also lost to the inept McCain now he is the cats meow which mean his soul has got to be in the hands of the right wing elite. Danger Will Robison danger....
"..Vote Ron Paul he is the only honest candidate that would make real changes."
Paul has about as much chance as a cut flower has in death valley. Have you seriously looked at his remarks on foreign policy.
I noticed it too Gingerbread Mamma! lmao
I love how the article barely mention Ron Paul's name even though he is second place. The media is doing all it can to be unfair to Ron Paul because they don't like his ideas. 22% is far better than Santorum's 13% so why isn't Ron Paul's name in the headline?
oregonchic - It is funny how liberals and far-right conservativers are really so much alike, Ron Paul scares them because they will for once really experience change and they can't handle it!
Ron Paul's ieas are so cocamamie that he is bound to lose so why bother. When such a man can garner 2nd place we know the sorry state of the Republican party.
A: Because he's "Ron Paul", he will never get an equitable mention because he's a threat to big government big business.
Ron Paul even thinks a bankrupt country borrowing money and giving it away is dumb.
But we know better,right,Mr. baldeagle11?
Because he isn't a serious, electable candidate. He's not too far off of the lunatic fringe.
Actually, Ron Paul makes sense in many of his positions.. I know asking you to read about him may be daunting to you but do try. Right now we are watching a bunch of back-arsed politicians lying straight up and flip flopping on issues where Ron Paul has stuck to his guns and has remained solid on his ideals. Can you really say the same about the rest?
What if I don't like his guns? His message means nothing to me, whether he's consistent or not. Like it or not, the world changes and sometimes a person has to change their outlook on things. If we didn't, we would still be getting around on horseback. Of course, some of you may prefer that. Not me.
Ron Paul doesn't get credit for his share of the Tea Party Flavor of the Week bounce because he ended up splitting it with Rick. Plus, most commentators don't consider a candidate from the alternate reality to be viable.
Yeah, Ron Paul is just nuts... I mean seriously, no more war? Bring the troops home? Save hundreds of billions of dollars? Cut a trillion dollars from the federal budget the first year? Actually balance the US budget? Man, that is absolutely crazy!! He's so far out there with these incredibly wacky ideas...that he's definitely got my vote.
Now, 3 g b: don't try assigning credit to paulie for the President's accomplishments. President Obama is the one who campaigned on the promise to end the illegal, assinine war in Iraq and bring our troops home... and he has.
But of course RWNJ's can not stand such accomplishments and try to re-write history
Why can't you anti-American President people be truthful, face reality, and support this country and her leader? See, truth be told, President Obama has done and will do much of what you are ga-ga about if everyone just gets on board and ceases to oppose the U.S.
Can you open your eyes and see?????
Friend, our dear Ron Paul knows the best he could do is support Romney since running on a third party ticket would hand the election over to Obama.
Ron Paul voted with Bush 92% of the time so how is that for independence. He is in it to sell books like Gingrich is. The best one on the republican side is Huntsman and he is not getting a smell. The right will choose not the voter. Paul is in it to make the Republican look like they are competent while backing the worlds biggest empty suit
Yep, Ron Paul, George Bush, Willard Romney, really no difference.
Support our country, the USA and support our president, Barrack Hussein Obama.
Thank you for your support
Obama 2012
No one ever said that people in New England were very bright. The fact that Romney has a 20 point lead doesn't surprise me at all. Its the home-field advantage. I do pray everyday that something will happen to stop Romney. Romney will be no better than Obama just White.
AH HA!
Speaking of white, you, my little freak, are the epitome of WHITE TRASH!
Why so angry - someone steal the tires off your trailer? Or did your septic tank flood your bathtub?
The white sheet wearing Klan is out in full force tonight!
What's the matter run out of gas for your cross burnings?
ihl #'s:
It's New Hampshire, not all of New England, that is the focus right now. The rest of us up here get our say later on.
They are all white now.
These polls are meaningless... Polling a group of a few hundred (in this case roughly 2500) is not the overall consensus of a state, or the nation for that matter.the only thing that really matters is when the time comes for the voters to get in those booths and cast their votes.
They're chockful o' meaning, and accurate with a few % points, varying by the degree of which they focus on likely voters or if they use a less reliable All Voters or All Citizens group.
You pick Repubs from each part of the state and poll 'em, hopefully trying to get some from each age group, and it'll be roughly accurate.
The polls were right in Iowa...they showed Romney and Paul at the top, with Santorum in 3rd and rising at the very end. The momentum continued in the days after the poll so he ended up in 3rd, a little ahead of Paul.
well their polls failed in Iowa
"accurate within a few % pts"
Yes, we see just how right on all these polls and pundits are.
But, hey... they give the RWNJ's a chance to fantasize.
Stupid, the only polls that matter are those right before the election.
Those had Romney-Paul-Santorum in that order with Santorum rising.
It ended up Romney-Santorum-Paul which made sense since the last poll was 2 days before and the trend was Santorum going up. He continued.
Neither New hampshire or Iowa or South carolina have anything close to a cross section of America. It is a waste of time because people are voting for what they think is an electable person who has yet to stand real critisim.
BINGO chesty....
That is exactly the point.... Get it?
Leona, President Obama has tried many times to work with Congress but those on the far right refuse to compromise. They want it their way or no way. That is why the current Congress has accomplished very little if anything.
What is unamerican about separation of powers. The Congress and the POTUS are at odds often throughout history. Very few presidents have had the luxury of having a Congress of "yes men". It was set up that way by the founding fathers for a reason. Too much power by any branch is dangerous.
When you talk about people's business why have you and those you support ignored poll after poll saying people favor the affordable healthcare act when they find out what is really in it and that they favor a small tax increase for the 1%ers as well as allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. Most people favor getting the heck out of Iraq and Afghanistan but those who favor the miliary-industrial complex (warned as a bad idea by General and President Dwight D. Eisenhower) want to continue and maybe even bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
I am not totally happy with what Obama has done or not done but compared to the alternatives he has been a miracle worker.
Ron Paul's got only 22% oh no! He's not such a bad guy everyone.
Ron Paul doesn't want to bomb Iran so he is lucky to have 22%
Obama rubbed the magic lamp and Romney,Santorum and Gingrich appeared
Winning by default sure beats running on your record.
you are short on intelligence.... seriously... what everyone sees is that the group they have fighting is scraping the bottom of the barrel and shows just how far the Republicans have sunk.
I'm a Paul supporter but I would take Romney over Rick "the warlord" Santorum any day of the week. Just another neocon chickenhawk lawyer who watched way too many John Wayne movies as a child (but, of course, never had the stones to serve himself). Typical!
I loved it when you conspiracy freak losers lost Iowa Tuesday night.
That is the only state you had a prayer in, and you will not win anything now out of 50 states this whole election.
Now go play with yourselves, conspiracy scum. Hey Alex Jones told me something huhuhuh.
Conspiracy Trash's candidate: 0 for 50 in 2012. So sad.
Excuse me...I'm a former Marine who served proudly for 3 years in Iraq and risked my life for "freedom." I watched my friends die, lose their limbs, and suffer terrible stress when they got home. I, like so many others from all branches of military, know the ins and outs of our corrupt foreign policy and where it will likely lead us in the future. You, on the other hand, listen to the liars in the mainstream media and take their word as the gospel. Why don't you put on a uniform if you think it's so easy?
Sure you did. The ratio of RonPaul fans claiming to be military vs. those who really are is like 4 to 1, all flimsily supported by the fact that at one time early on in the 2008 primary, of those military members who donated money to GOP candidates (.0001% of the total military), RP was leading.
RP's beliefs and those of the military rank and file and officers are diametrically opposite. They've consistently said they supported the missions over there. RP's consistently said it was no good, and we caused all the bombings and that we shouldn't have been in either war.
But I want you to know, I do distinguish between Ron Paul and the insane conspiracy vermin who support him.
of cource the higher ups will say they support what has been done overseas.. if not they would be summarily arrested and put in prison. You ChestyPuller are and arrogant arse who has never served a day in your life for anything but yourself.
Another day, another troll....see you on the battlefield soldier! Trust me, my good friends and I won't be showing up to another phony conservative placating "support the troops" rally anytime soon. You can bet your a$$ on that!
Freedom for who, Kevin. The Iraqi citizens who, after we disposed of Saddam, maimed our soldiers with their homemade bombs?
tonybeeerm: Kevin put the word "freedom" in quotes, alerting you to the irony of his meaning of the use of the word... Stop being so reactionary.
Kevin I sent Chesty a letter of marquee and reprisal. I would like to apologize for his arrogance. Semper Fi Brother your service is appreciated more than you know.
@ Chesty
@chesty puller
Chesty And please never use that name unless you earned it. As a Marine I would personally like to invite you to come see my DD214 and the DD214's of all my Marine buddies in Tempe, AZ . Once we establish that we are indeed Marines I would like to escort your vile carcus out of our country. Please do not ever I mean ever insult another marine like that again. If I heard you on the street you would lose the ability to speak again. Do we under stand each other.
Here is the Reality of the support Dr. Paul gets
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$500,000
US Army
$24,503
US Air Force
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US Navy
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$14,000
You are free to diss Dr. Paul, say his policies are hackneed, but I warn you do not speak ill of the men and women who defended your right to post on this site. It will bite you in the ass.
1215 E. lemon is my address
Tempe AZ 85281
If you wish to come see my DD214 or send a letter of apology you can find me there. remember to knock.
I batted this away on page 4 or so
Mitt cant beat Obama. Obama is too smart for him. Obama is doing an awesome job. Mitt is trying to kick the poor when they are already down.
Chances of Obama beating Mitt in an aptitude test: 25%?
Once Obama reveals his Occidental college grades I'll be able to be more exact. I think he was an idiot early on that's why he hides them. Then he got serious later on at Hahvad, undoubtedly only getting in because he was black, thanks to Democrats' idiotic policy of affirmative action, but taking advantage of the undeserved opportunity. But hey, if Obama releases his grades, then we can see if he was a straight A student that deserved to get in or whether he was an affirmative action acceptance.
I guess if he was an A student at Occidental and Columia he would have released the grades right, because he'd be proud of them.
Obama's a smart guy, but smarter than Mitt? Probably not. Close maybe.
Now, in El Stupido Democratville how is Mitt exactly "kicking the poor while they're down?" I know you leftwingers live in quite the fantasy world so this could mean almost anything.
Ummm, perhaps opposing tax increases on the rich? That somehow "kicks the poor"? in your warped, stupid liberal worldview.
ChestyPuller: " .... Obama's a smart guy, but smarter than Mitt? Probably not. Close maybe."
To be classified as "Smart" Obama would have to drop 60 points of his IQ... Mitt, on the other hand, is just.... smart.
wow, you think he's some genius then.
Well that shows if you can speak well people think you're smart, if you can't, people think you're dumb (Bush).
Convince him (with all your string-pulling authority) to release his grades from Occidental and Columbia so we can find out.
If he got into Harvard because of a 1300 SAT score and straight A's at Occidental and Columbia, then yes, he's very smart. This is probably not what happened, because he didn't release those education details.
If his performance is less than that, then he's just smart. No genius.
Mitt could out-venture capital him any day of the week.
ChestyPuller:
I don't know the grades... you don't know the grades.... We both know that he graduated "magna Cum Laude" from Harvard.... Not too many students get that high score. That's the bottom line..
Isn't it what counts???
Let me put it in another way: I am a real BUM... but one day I come up with an idea that turns me from a bum into a millionaire... Does it matter how I became one? Would anybody care about my past???
Do you get my point??
He took full advantage of his shot, however he got it. And is now president. And got 53% of the vote, the most any Democrat had in 44 years.
I still want to see the grades though.
ChestyPuller:
Maybe one day after 2016, when he is out of politics he will indulge in a autobiography and will release everything...
Yes! Let's put up another gutless moderate like McCain that no one in the party likes, and that Demoncats will claim is reasonable early on and then paint as the Great Satan by November.
The Republican establishment said we should so let's put up a crap candidate once again like 2008! Wooo.
We are the 25%! (of Republicans that like Romney)
oh no, romneys ahead? quick, dont you GOP people have another nutcase hiding in the closet you can spring on us and tell us he's the front runner? What about that lying,thieving Jeb Bush? he's around, or the fat slob crispy creme donut man? Any one but Romney, he appears to have a shred of decency,some intelligence,and he's a good family man. Cant have that now can we? You guys are slipping man.
Oh good, the Dems are setting up the bait-and-switch routine on a GOP moderate again:
Up until the general election season the moderate has: "decency, intelligence, good family, seems reasonable, only Repub I like, etc etc".
Once the general election starts the moderate is: "extreme, hates the poor, is racist, etc etc".
I spit on your recommendations. Pitoooooey.
How about Fred Thompson? Nancy Reagan? She use to wake Ron up when the phone rang.
Seriously? I hear from people in Massachusett that the taxes are killing them, they have gotten alot of businesses to move into the State but that is because of the significant tax breaks they get to move in. It is the people who are being taxed to death. Why don't you talk to some of the residence who live there.
Off the Meds today Chesty?
Behind good_All-American_Lines_in_Utah maybe.
Them Mormons is good people, albeit uniquely religioused. Making up a word there.
Heck, I kinda like Mormons, 'cept when they're spineless centrist jellyfish. Get that Jeff Flake or whatever guy to run for president, from AZ.
You enjoy looking in the mirror when all you see is butt cheeks staring back at you?
It's about time we started to hear something more realistic regarding RON PAUL.
Keep your heads up, Paul supporters.
While the article still doesn't give him much mention, this "22%", ( though probably not the real number )...... is much better than being stuffed into the dungeon below 10%.
I'm amazed that Santorum is not riding high (from TPTB) from his magical rise in Iowa.
All we can do is keep trying to enlighten others to come out their own "Plato's Cave".
Yes, we need to hear something more realistic about Ron Paul:
Iowa, early on with a caucus, was the only chance he had of winning anything and he will not win 1 out of 50 states this primary season.
His career is over, he won't run again, and he will retire having finished 0 for 100 in states in the two GOP primary elections he entered.
Suck on that.
*And that phoney laugh*
*That was a genuine laugh ... All right, all right ... Maybe l overdid it ... l was just trying to keep things going ... God, l hope they didn't notice ... what a jerk l am*
*They never seem to*
~ Barabara & Oliver Rose in *War of the Roses*
BINGO!
What is UP with the meh...meh...meh...?
Willard's laugh is as phony as he is! ☺
In the meantime, the sheeple continue to graze... lol
Need to just say this and be off for a while. I am still voting for Perry and I will get to the polls before Super Tuesday. I know that many people have just stopped listening to him. Not your fault, or his really. He's been trying to govern a state while also running for President. Lots of real stuff to do.
He hasn't been able to spread himself all over the place as easily as some. But I know he's been working and working hard. Texas is a big state and has faced incredible challenges from the elements. So don't be so hard on him for not being out there right now. And he's been in a legal battle with the federal government over an EPA rule. The state won. In any event, I never come back to the comment sites after I post so anything you say will never be known by me.
Governor Perry is more than the eye can see. I think he's the only one out there who stands by a motto and respects mottos for their commitment. He's also the only one out there I know for sure raised his hand at least twice and swore to honor the codes of the badge. Yet he never ruled by the badge. Right now governor Perry has a lot of assessing to do in Texas. From the devastating droughts, to the raging wildfires, to having to stand in front of a camera and perform, to running for President. On merits alone I have to vote for him.
Eagle scout to Agi U, to flying planes and driving tractors, all for the red, white and blue. Sorry I am a sucker for a boy scout who grew up to fly planes for our Air Force then went to help daddy in the cotton field business. He is not a savior he is just the only one in the race who when I look at him I see truth without meaning malice or harm.
Anyway, that felt good to be the one who really knows the genuine character in this theatrical production called Election time.
And I think he also the only one who truly supports the
rights of the states to govern in their jurisdictional powers.
Then how come he hasn't sealed up out Texas border ?
Let's do simple math here:
It would take 5 national guardsmen stationed per 1 mile, with decent armament, to effectively keep out all the BS.
If the Texas length is 1,000 miles (I believe) , that would be only 5,000 personnel to keep Texas nice and clean. (actually 15,000 with shift rotation).
Hey, what do you know, that creates jobs too........
So why hasn't he done it ?
They're used to a lot hotter temperatures now, after Iraq and Ubeki beki beki stanstan
With a M107 Long Range Sniper Rifle per man with a maximun effective range of 2,000 yards, Senator, 2-3 men per mile would be sufficient enough, thus making use of less men, but adding jobs to the gun manufactorer for the 2,000-3,000 guns needed at approximately $17 grand per gun.
M-###
Perry doesn't govern, the Lt. governor does.
M, he's a coward on illegals, and I guess all of the remaining Reps are.
We need a candidate to run for president sometime this century who will deport all illegals and stop new illegals from entering the country.
Even if many liberals swear this is inthenthitive.
well what we have here is a POTUS (demo) who ran on the plus side of having a border fence, then changed his mind. And Perry(repub/demo?) who also agreed about having a fence, then changed his mind. And a citizenry that can't make up its mind if a fence would be a good or bad thing. one hand says if you build it you will stop the illegals movement into America, the other hand says if you build it they will just blow it up or cut their way in, it would just be a massive waste of funds!!! So who was right, Obama, Perry or the citizens!!???
I just say support Obama bring troops home and insist they build a human barrier, this can keep our troops employed, which is a large concern for many and it also keeps money from being wasted on a fence that could be blown up or cut up. But the downside is that our border might be in all honesty more dangerous than Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan combined. And if I understand the drug cartels size correctly they are like a massive massive military just right next door. Thats scary!!! And I live roughly 200 miles from the border and fifty miles from a supposed safe haven city for the cartels.
But all in all I think our govt' biggest issue is not being united on any one issue, even one a small as removing the drug cartels and the threats they have on not just the U.S but on Mexico. Those illegals are running bc they can not fight such a large presence of cartels. So we need to help them and ourselves in the process. I know, I know radical to the last point!
Wow! Where's Machete when you need him? LMAO
It's no secret that Obama was gifted the Democratic nomination and Presidency by the liberal media
Here's all I'm saying now Mr President
NO MORE Bush terms......Obama's 1st term may as well be Bush term part III
Get it right next time.......Please & Thank You Obama!!!
It's no secret that Obama was gifted the Democratic nomination and Presidency by the liberal media
NIt wasn't the media that FUBARed the economy -- it was Bush.
You just gotta love liberal media spin. Example, Newt unfavorable by 44%, doesn't that mean he is favorable to 56%? Cmon folks the media is trying to pick the repub candidate again to be sure their boy stays in ofice and thats all. With Romney we get Odumbo jr., with Santorum we get ( ok I give, what do we get? ).
I think I'll wait for the convention and see who gets the nod, but I doubt it will be either Romney or Santorum.
"Example, Newt unfavorable by 44%, doesn't that mean he is favorable to 56%?"
No, the 44% was for unacceptable, which is a much stronger measure than unfavourable. And they rarely add up to 100% anyway. Also, this is among Republicans only.
it isn't unFAVORABLE, it is unACCEPTABLE. when almost half of your OWN voters find you unacceptable, how many moderates/independents do you think will vote for you? 44% unACCEPTABLE is terrible.
This isn't "liberal spin", this is basic knowledge..which apparently you lack.
good point settersperch,
I think the liberal media racket is to ensure that no matter who wins the presidency, it won't be a real rightwinger.
So they support the most leftwing Republican in the primary, and then once the election rolls around they always support the Democrat. They hope the Democrat, with their help, wins, but if not, at least there's no rightwinger left standing.
Basically, the only common-sense, decent thing to do is publicly urinate on a leftwinger who indirectly encourages you to go for the moderate he/she claims to like so much early on.
Faux News/Republican strategy;
Make the lie big, but keep it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it, and, if you believe it, you deserve what is brought with it.
Yep, if it's a lie today, say it enough times and tomorrow it's the truth. Thanks Faux "News".
TRILLION dollar wars.
Bureaucratic excess.
Corruption, waste, mismanagement.
The Federal government is dysfunctional and Americans are fed up.
We have become the United States of Wall Street.
The USA is supposed to be a REPUBLIC of STATES, not a Federation ruled by a noble class.
There is only one candidate committed to DECENTRALIZING power away from Wall Street and the K Street special interests.
Ron Paul 2012
It is time to restore the ideals of the US Constitution.
It is time to return America to its citizens.
Republicans of New Hampshire -- Your vote COUNTS!
Ron Paul won't rein in Wall Street; he will unleash them. That's what libertarianism is all about.
What about that thing he calls his son ... who wants to eliminate the U.S. Printing Office so nobody gets their Social Security Checks and stomps on womens' heads after they're beat to the ground ?
That is not true.
I am a small business owner, and I find it very difficult to grow with all the many hoops I have to jump through.
The game is rigged so bigger gets bigger, and everyone else struggles.
Please go look up Milton Friedman videos on YouTube, and get a sense of what a truly FREE MARKET is. Ron Paul 's views mirror what Friedman said.
A truly FREE MARKET would create growth like none of us have ever seen in our lives.
He will also unleash personal responsibility. Corporate shields on personal liability are a great thing for corrupt corporate fat cats hide behind. Libertarianism also means exposing these rats to being held accountable for their evils.
Also, consider the argument that corruption is inevitable in both business and government. In my mind they are equally bad, but federalized corruption destroys lives on a far more broad scale than corporate.
Also, if you eliminate some of the protections afforded to the individuals in a corporation, you would see dramatically less corruption.
Exotix.. seems that is the motto for every Republican out there.. so what have you to say about the rest?
Oh, I was just as to curious as to why every GOP / Tea Bagger never mentions Bush but are the second-coming-of-Reagan ... see Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul: A Comparison ... on You Tube ...
Our beloved Constitution was written by some of the most brilliant thinkers in all of history. They placed the utmost value to protect individuals from govt. The thought of unalienable rights was a first in human history. Ron Paul supports the constittution and knows that if it is followed that all Americans will be better off. His steady record in Congress speaks for its self. Less Govt! Do yourself a favor and support this man.
What about that thing he calls his son ... who wants to eliminate the U.S. Printing Office so nobody gets their Social Security Checks and stomps on womens' heads after they're beat to the ground ?
The McCain endorsement was the most pathetic thing I`ve seen in a while. Republicans didn`t like McCain, and they don`t like Romney.
Who has the most bank contributions? Obama, and Romney, both bought, and paid for. Who gets the most contributions from the military? Ron Paul. The anti war candidate.
I would hope that you all grow up. Democrat or Republicain we should all be working for our great nation .polititions and the puplic should be ashamed of themselves.This is not the country of my parents or my grandparents they worked for the good of the country. We are all americains lets start acting like it.where is that world war two spirt.Is it dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That "spirit" died with the development of "entitlements" which changed the entire character of the country. Both community and most of all individual accountability disappeared and were replaced by a parasitic outlook on both taxation and supporting people.
Entitlements also change the entire situation surrounding immigration. It used to be a "hack it or pack it" attitude towards immigration so by the weeding process the parasites went back to their home countries. Now the US has become the dumping ground for all the parasites of other countries who are only too happy to get rid of their liabilities. After WWII the federal government became a giant "support' mechanism allowing people to vote themselves money, jobs, services and support. It became a vehicle of power, extortion and wealth reallocation. The Federal Reserve cranked up the printing press and the federal government cranked up the debt machine borrowing for anything the people desired just to win elections or stay in power. Giving the people whatever they pleased got you reelected.
The party's and voters no longer fight over how best to run the country but how one party and voters can screw the other out of their incomes...... assuming they even have one.
People only care about things they invest in. There is no longer any investing in the federal government or this country. There is only one group trying to drain the other group dry. It is easy to fix but the trouble is more people would rather screw someone into supporting them whether it be at the top or bottom of the classes than have individual accountability.
The spirit of America is alive and well, thank you very much. Who exactly do you think is paying the bills while empty headed louts pandering to voters spend us into oblivion?
We are out here, doing what we need to do to earn a living, feed our families, educate our kids, care for our parents. We are not going away. We are not whining.
We aren't blaming immigrants for wanting economic opportunity. But we are blaming the idiots responsible for keeping an eye on the door for not managing the line properly.
Dependency is the great Satan. All those Americans who sit on their behinds, all the while whining about entitlements, failing to go to school, or work two jobs, or doing what is required to help themselves, their families and shoulder the social burden are folks we really need to worry about.
And as for investment, we all have a financial commitment to the common good of America. The real issue is paying down the debt while we service obligations that we have already committed to. There isn't any trust that this will happen with a lame exercise of legislative authority.
Which brings us to the central problem: those desperate to serve are serving only themselves. No one in government - from the President on down - is exercising the leadership required to make big, necessary changes we all crave.
You need a new paintbrush if you are going to keep painting yourself Disneyland.
NOBODY IS PAYING THE BILLS. That is the problem. The Federal Reserve printed $16 TRILLION and shoved it out the back door between 2009 and 2010 totally unsecured to European investors. Then $600 billion in TARP, $.5 Trillion in Stimulus to union lobby's, God knows how much is buried in Fannie/Freddie. It is said close to $6 trillion in toxic debt there Obama can't figure out a spreadsheet to put it on without losing the election so it is sitting out in space. Then we have the $600 billion the FED shoved out the back door to Europe on Dec 25th 2011. Then we have all the bailouts to GM and $600 billion in federal welfare (contracts) to GE. Then our own $15 trillion and 80 million going onto SS/Medicare at $1.5 trillion a year more. I mean the list goes on forever of this "PAYING BILLS". or shall we say lack of paying bills. Nobody has paid one of these bills....... Not one.
We can't ever pay down "THIS DEBT". It is mathematically impossible to even begin to pay down the interest much less the debt. We can't even print our way out of this mess. Federalism and letting the government borrow whatever it pleases has failed miserably.
I am not personally obligated for any of these "service obligations". I did not vote for one of the thieves in Congress passing this global charity and wealth reallocation baloney. I don't support the failed war on poverty, war on drugs, war on Libya, war on Iraq, war on Afghanistan, war on terror, European bailouts, GM bailouts, "Too Big To Fail" or any of the other failed federalist policies being propped up by mob rule of a country where over 50% don't pay any federal taxes but control what is done with the taxes others pay. Not to mention controlling how much is borrowed which they don't pay either.
Yep, lots of obligations there. Very selective on who pays and who gets what. Federalism has evolved into a crude form of mob rule destroying the treasury, credit and currency the founders fought hard to avoid. They gave us a great government in the constitution but we had to build this mess instead.
Ron Paul will stop the Federal Reserves manipulation as in money printing. It would be backed by some type of gold standard. In 1913 the Fed was established, and a dollar was worth a dollar. The US dollars is now worth 5 cents. It has lost 95% of it`s value. The more they print the more everything goes up.
In 1970 you could buy a nice 4 bedroom house for $20,000, now its $200,000 or more. In 1989 a new 3/4 ton Dodge was $18,000 now $40,000. Our pay is not doubling every 10 years so the money printing is going to be a major problem coming.
What about that thing he calls his son ... who wants to eliminate the U.S. Printing Office so nobody gets their Social Security Checks and stomps on womens' heads after they're beat to the ground ?
Oh boy that makes sense.... and I guess we should call Obama a women and baby killer for being personally responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Libya happens to be the largest oil producer in Africa, but many do not realize that Gaddafi was planning to introduce the gold dinar, a single African currency that would serve as an alternative to the U.S. dollar and allow African nations to share the wealth. It is surely no coincidence that Iraq's prior leader, Saddam Hussein, was trying to do the same thing just prior to U.S. invasion for all of those "weapons of mass destruction" nobody could find. We installed a new Federal Reserve run central bank since we were there anyways. Any chimp with an internet connection can figure these invasion out but Obama with all the resources in the world just can't get a handle on it... YEP
Obama knows all this yet he can validate the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians to support the Federal Reserve global counterfeiting ring. Yep, nothing but Saints in that Democratic party. Now the "war monger" party. I would never have thought I would see the day the Democratic party was "pro war" and "pro obliteration of personal rights".
Compared to this Democratic collusion and global racketeering the SS checks etc are extremely mild.... assuming there is any validity to them at all..... we know all the civilians are dead. That is a fact. We know there were no WMD. That is a fact. LIbya was all a lie... that is a fact.
Although you're correct with regards to Iraq & Libya moving to it's own currency off the dollar and Saddam to the Euro (also see the Irainan Oil Bourse) and thus was the truth for military intervention ...
I was just as to curious as why every GOP / Tea Bagger never mentions Bush but are the second-coming-of-Reagan ... see Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul: A Comparison ... on You Tube ...
I am unsure why you feel the need to classify everyone then use grade school playground name calling like it puts you above something. It really contradicts your understanding of the situation.
At this point I see Ron Paul as my only solution. Although not perfect he at least stands for eliminating the global mafia from our government and preserving personal rights. I am a constitutionalist and have the same disgust for the mainstream GOP as I do the Mainstream Democratic party. Bush Jr was a mindless crook while his dad was a cunning crook. Bush Jr's grandfather was a global criminal too.
I would vote for a Democrat like Dennis Kucinich in a heartbeat but not some lobby stooge like Obama. It is not about some blind party allegiance but about ideals. I vote for people who support my ideals and not some mindless mass of morons on either side of these two totally corrupt party's.
Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin made by the Federal Reserve and distributed to the citizens by Goldman Sachs. Obama is the most small time crook we had in generations. His tongue is falling off from licking to boots of the FED and military contractors. He is just taking up space.
If Ron Paul is your only solution, then you definitely have problems. LMAO
Who is your solution?
Poor Jon Huntsman. I think his problem is the Romney effect -- they are both Mormon and those for whom that is not a problem are going with the more recognizable name. Plus, Romney has the added benefit of being from a more mixed state.
At least Huntsman can count and understand simple financial spreadsheets. He has sound financial ideas. Unfortunately, he ran those spreadsheets for the Federal Reserve which I consider a conflict of interest as a President.
Romney is another lobby owned TelePrompTer reader like Obama. They already have "the goods" on Romney and he is just a fall guy set up to purposely lose the election to Obama so the global corporate pillaging can continue. I am afraid they will collapse the currency before the election ever gets here.
Be looking out for the devaluation of the dollar by 40% or so. It is either that or default which is unlikely because all the globalist investors loose on that one. The credit is at its limit so something has to give. If this house of cards can hand on until after the election it will be a miracle. They you have some bozo's out there who can only think if we can just tax the rich a little more everything will be just ducky. The ignorance of the public baffles me.
I have no idea why everybody is making a big deal about this big phony. He is obviously for the rich, thinks that NAFTA is the backbone of this country, when he ran against Ted Kennedy back in the nineties, he couldn't even beat him. I remember Kennedy ran a commercial about how Romney bought up this company somewhere in Massachusetts and downsized the company ,and put a lot of people out of work, that was the end. Kennedy won. It's so apparent that the Establishment is try to make him there Boy.
Everyone in office and those running besides Ron Paul are "for the rich". That is who got them there. Simply look at their lobby contributions. Obama is taking more money from Goldman Sachs and the Federal Reserve than any other candidate. It does not get any richer than that.