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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:17 AM by Huma Zaidi
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From Elizabeth Wilner, Mark Murray, Huma Zaidi, and Jennifer Colby
Fifty days until election day...  President Bush's aggressive posture in his Friday news conference, which aides called an attempt to better explain the White House's position on detainee trials and treatment, may not have had its intended effect.  The GOP heads into a second week debating the issue amongst themselves, detracting from their effort to keep the heat on Democrats over security issues going into the midterm elections.  The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, taken in the days leading up the Bush's primetime speech on September 11, indicated that effort was at least somewhat effective, up until that point, in nudging Bush's job approval rating and other standard measures of the political climate in a positive direction for Republicans.

Further fueling interest in the GOP split over detainee policy is that the debate between Bush and Sen. John McCain -- among others, to be sure -- is laden with overtones of Bush's legacy and McCain's presidential prospects.  The former Vietnam POW clearly feels very personally and passionately about this issue; he told NBC's Chip Reid last Friday that he considers it "a matter of conscience."  But to the extent that the debate undercuts Republicans' prospects in November, it may inadvertently wind up helping McCain.  The conventional wisdom among political analysts is that a midterm election that results in serious losses for Bush's GOP will boost McCain's chances of winning the party's nomination because more Republicans will decide they need to nominate a candidate who represents a change from the status quo. 

Arguments can be made in the other direction, too -- that McCain's dispute with Bush over detainee policy might cost him  Republican presidential primary votes.  And some analysts don't think the current debate will wind up hurting Republicans much at the polls in November.  NBC political analyst Charlie Cook notes that as long as Topic #1 is detainee policy instead of the unpopular war in Iraq, that's a plus for the GOP.

McCain and his team seem to have the presidential race in mind.  The Financial Times reported late last week that McCain "told aides he was willing to risk the presidency, because of possible loss of support from Republican lawmakers and voters" over his stance on this issue (see Friday's Security Politics section).  The issue also very publicly distances McCain from Bush on one aspect of the national security debate, while his support for Bush on the unpopular Iraq war gets less notice. 

Although the involved parties hinted over the weekend that a compromise might be possible, this debate is expected to dominate the discourse on Capitol Hill as Congress returns for its second-to-last week in session; members are scheduled to leave town for the rest of the election cycle on September 29. 

As his party struggles with an issue that will affect how the United States is viewed around the world, President Bush heads to the United Nations.  Today he drops by his wife's first international conference, a forum on global literacy.  He then does a bunch of bilats (i.e., bilateral meetings) with various world leaders.  He caps off the day by headlining an estimated $1.4 million Republican National Committee fundraiser at a private home which is, guess what, closed to the media. 

Tomorrow brings Bush's big address to the United Nations General Assembly, which aides have billed as the capstone of his series of speeches casting Iraq as central to the overall war on terror.  He'll also meet with the President of Iraq.  But the White House campaign continues past tomorrow: On Friday, Bush meets with the President of Pakistan, and next week he meets with the President of Afghanistan.

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America is better than that.  to define torture is easy does it pass the "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" test if not then its torture every christian knows that.
Although not a Republican, I consider McCain the best of that bad lot. I think he could easily win the general election in '08, but he will never get the chance because the conservative base can't stand him. Or Powell, he could win if it was left up to the whole country, but the right won't let him win the nomination either. I will support anyone who insists that the US has to return to the moral high ground. If WE aren't better than THEM, what is it all for.
You must be out of your minds to think that a debate on TORTURE helps the GOP. Certainly the polls are totally against you on that.

http://www.democrats.com/torture-polls-1
"Aggressive posturing"? That was a man that was spoiled rotten as a child and never made to take any sort of responsibility, at all, for any of the miserable screw-ups he's caused. He's anything but "presidential." I thought Gregory was going to have a stroke trying to get a simple answer from that simple man.

How soon before ABC produces a "docudrama" to explain to the American public how Bill Clinton mis-managed the war in Iraq?
The more Bush agressively pushes his untenable positions on torture and totally "unfair" trials, the more stupid he looks.  It also appears Bush's positions are meant to have ex post facto effect which raises another legal challenge.  Those who are in lockstep with him bring to mind the mindless "Brownshirts" of Hitler's Germany.
In rumsfeld's langauge:
Did Saddam imprison people without access to lawyers, without trial, without charges, in the name of iraqi security?
Yes of course.
Did people die in Saddam's custody?
Yes of course.
Does George W. do that very same thing?
yes of course.
Is Saddam considered evil?
Yes, of course
Ask your self the next question
Whatever the short term political outcome, the past six years will go down in history (assuming there is history after this) as the Dark Age of the American Ideal.  Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfield, et al, have made a mockery of the Founders' "shining city on a hill." Lord, have mercy.
Rev. Dr. Michael Bever
Bush is like the bully on the playground I used to know when I was in elementary school. If you did not play the games by his rules he would not allow anyone to play.
Bush says if congress does not authorize his NSA spying operation, he will just SHUT IT DOWN.
Bush says if congress does not pass legislation to allow him (CIA) to continue torture as a method of interrogation of detainees, he will have everyone STOP INTERROGATING DETAINEES.
Bush says if congress does not pass legislation authorizing Military Tribunals the way he wants the rules of evidence to be , he will NOT HAVE ANY TRIALS for the detainees.
Bush says our military will say in IRAQ even if there is a civil war and 500 of our troops are being killed each month by NON TERRORISTS.

Bush sure reminds me of that bully which one day a much bigger kid showed up and then things went back
to normal where games and rules were decided by the majority of the kids.

Jim Frego
Grants Pass, OR
What could these prisoners possibly know that would be a threat to National Security or how could they be charged with a crime if they don't even know what they are suppose to have done. I didn't know until today that there are 14,000 being held in Cuba and Iraq and new prison facilities costing millions being built as we speak.  If the Iraq government passed a bill today requesting the removal of all U.S. forces from Iraq in 30 days Bush and the Dog's of War would not leave they have too much invested in this war and their new bases there to leave.  Why are there never any pictures of the Green Zone and the way the Americans there are living in comparison to the Iraqi's "is it a matter of national security"?  
Jim of Grants Pass, Or Well he did tell us he is the decider.


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