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Hagel wants a "timeframe" for Iraq

Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:38 PM by Elizabeth Wilner
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From NBC's Ken Strickland
Possible presidential candidate and GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel says a new strategy for Iraq "must include timeframes." And while not blatantly embracing Democrats' oft-used terms of "timetables," he clarifies that "timeframes are forcing mechanisms that prompt action and define consequences."

Hagel, a Nebraskan and Vietnam veteran, plans to deliver these comments in a speech tonight in Washington. In that speech, he'll also repeat his belief that "substantial withdrawal of American forces must begin next year... Time is not on our side." And he'll dismiss assertions that withdrawal of US military forces would guarantee that Iraq will become "a terrorist haven for al Qaeda. I do not believe it is preordained."

Hagel does take issue with some of the ISG recommendations. On the acceleration of training Iraq's military and police forces, he will say, "We cannot make the training of Iraqi troops a prerequisite for our withdrawal from Iraq." He cites more than $12 billion already spent on on training and that "the Administration has continuously provided unrealistic reports of the success we were having training Iraqi forces." He'll also caution against embedding substantially more US soldiers with Iraqi troops, saying it could make them "dangerously exposed and unsupported in combat and caught in the middle of a civil war."

Hagel is expected to decide sometime between now and early 2007 whether he'll seek the presidency (and he's been keeping his decision-making much closer to the vest than many of his Senate colleagues).

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finally, a possible honest broker? I'll have to see where Hagel stands and see if fresh wind is ablowin from Nebraska. Will he have steel enough in his spine to stand up to the neocons and monied televangelistis? Hmmm..hopefully. I've read the ISG report and know whatever we do will not ahppen real soon. It hinges on regional diplomacy and the Iraqis coming to grip w/ their own country.
Senator Hagel is the straightest shooter you are likely to ever find in DC. His profile is not the highest, but he holds strong and true opinions, and he is tougher than nails. He's been making statements like this for a couple of years, and in my book he is unflinching with solid credibility. Bush cringes every time Hagel speaks. This man is no McCain wimp, so don't expect to see him pander to the christian right. I hope he makes the run in 2007.
Our country is in a quandry. On the one hand, we broke it, so we own it and should fix it. That would be the right thing to do. On the other hand, I do believe the Iraqi people themselves, largely, do not want our troops over there, and believe our presence is only exacerbating the whole mess. So I ask myself, why should the lives of more and more US Troops (not to mention thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens trapped in what is now a civil war) be sacrificed for a nation that doesn't want us there? These are insane times, and I fear they will only get worse. Senator Hagel is right. Timeframes for getting out is everything right now.
when will we be heard, the silent majority is inslaved by those who think they are better. we suffer and are beaten down by a governing body which no longer serves the people, nor protects there freedoms. this governing body steals our rights, oppresses our brothers and violate the very constitution and oaths they swore to protect. it seems obvious that freedom is a lie when we are taxed unfairly and thrown in ail for victimless crimes, are troops are dying in iraq to bring democracy to 24 illion people, while at home, thirty five million people live in fear of arrest and inprisionment for smoking pot. mabet on 4/20/2007 if all pot smokers threatened to park there cars in all the intersections of the country and just walk away the government would realize that this is our country, mabey if we harrassed them about the mess that they have created in this country they might have to listen. mabey if we all did are civic duty to keep our government under control, none of this would have happened. we only have ourselves to blame for these things and we should all be ashamed and start being patriotic, civil disobediance is the responsability of every american. you decide do we live under a flag of truth and justice or a flag of hypocracy and lies.
Way to go Senator Hagel! We need more politicians like him. All that our president cares about now is how losing this war will make HIM look.His group never gave a hoot about the Iraqi people and now I truly wonder if he cares about anyone except himself and his own twisted ideologies.He's quickly unraveling and what might happen next is scarey.We need a timeframe now, before we lose anymmore of our soldiers.
I have a guess at to what the timeframe will be. We will not make any major changes until after Jan 2009. We will stay in 'stay the course' mode or something very close to it for the next 2 years till the napoleon and his evil 'old guard' have left the premises.
hagel is one of the few honest pols in wash. he cerainly deserves a chance to speak as he is a common sense person .
For all the people who, like Sen. Hagel, advocate withdrawal from Iraq regardless of the situation on the ground, one must ask the question, what happens to the country & region then? One 'unintended result' could be a terrorists takeover of the country, establishment of terrorists training bases, a Iran supported government, ect. The question is..what is the best course of action NOW for the future. I don't know the answer, but I know that 'just bringing home the troops' is not going to guarantee our safety from terrorists attacks. Hagle says 'he doesn't think' the country will fall into a worse situation....the military on the ground disagrees! Who's right?
For all the people who, like Sen. Hagel, advocate withdrawal from Iraq regardless of the situation on the ground, one must ask the question, what happens to the country & region then? One 'unintended result' could be a terrorists takeover of the country, establishment of terrorists training bases, a Iran supported government, ect. The question is..what is the best course of action NOW for the future. I don't know the answer, but I know that 'just bringing home the troops' is not going to guarantee our safety from terrorists attacks. Hagle says 'he doesn't think' the country will fall into a worse situation....the military on the ground disagrees! Who's right?
mw the military on the ground do not disagree. the same thing will happen as when we left viet nam and that is americans will stop dying everyday for a mistake. weather we are there 1 day or 100 years in the end iraqs will decide for themselves.
Mikeeeg, don't necessarily disagree with you. The Irags will decide, at some point, how they want their country to be. My point was a 'bigger question' than Iraq alone. Living Viet Nam was one thing, leaving Iraq in the hands of people who have sworn to kill us and now have the means (nukes) is another issue. Do we deal with them (region) there, or do we 'leave' and hope they stop coming after us at home? I think you know the answer to that!
Mikeeeg, did you read the general's comments today? All three agree that leaving Iraq is the wrong thing to do. We all hate the loss of our brave military personnel, no one wants to see these people lose their lives. At the same time, the threat to this country is real and Americans had been 'wake up'. Leaving Iraq in choas will only place the entire middle east in worse shape. Read the General's comments today and see what you think
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