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Last night's debate

Posted: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:07 AM by Mark Murray
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All three front-runners - Clinton, Obama, and Edwards -- sent out releases declaring victory. The Clinton campaign’s came out first and referred to pundits’ comments. The Edwards folks came out second, using blogs to back up the claim. And Obama’s camp sent out theirs this morning pointing to a robo-dial poll.

The New York Times leads its coverage this way: “Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was professorial and emphatic as she spoke Thursday night about health care, Iraq and whether Wal-Mart was good for America (a ‘mixed blessing,’ she decided). Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, by reputation a dynamic performer, was reserved and cautious as he talked about a donor with a shady past, how he would respond to a terrorist attack on American shores and his biggest mistake (not doing more to stop Congress from intervening in the Terri Schiavo case, he said).”

The impression by the Washington Post’s Broder is “that the Democrats have a field of contenders that, by any historical measure, matches in quality any the party has offered in decades,” adding that the debate “was fast-paced and civil, with few sharp jabs among the serious contenders.” 

The Los Angeles Times: “The exchanges were mostly cordial, with Biden at one point cautioning that Republicans would be making a ‘big mistake’ if they underestimated Clinton's ability to win the general election. But for Clinton and Obama, who have faced criticism from the party's liberal base for not supporting an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq, the event showcased potential problems.”

The paper also says there was at least at least “one memorable exchange, in which Gravel knocked Obama for saying he would not rule out any options in responding to Iran's nuclear program. ‘Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me, Barack,’ Gravel said. ‘I'm not planning to nuke anybody right now, Mike. I promise,’ Obama said, his words muffled by audience laughter.”

The Boston Globe adds that Obama and Clinton “appeared careful to avoid attacking each other personally. Each referred to the other in a companionable manner, with Obama remarking that ‘as Hillary mentioned earlier . . . people are hungry for change,’ and the New York lawmaker referring collegially to ‘Barack’ in one of her responses.”

USA Today: “The candidates spent more time attacking Bush during the 90-minute debate, which also featured questions on health care, gun control and abortion.”

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Even the GOP sent out a victory letter last night. God, if this is what the democrats have to offcer, I'm not worried about anybody on the liberal side winning in 08.
Hilary and Obama won this one. What do you think? Join the chat: http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/on-national-scene-democratic.html#links
to Jerry in Corpus Christi....you must have watched a different debate than I did last night. Edwards, Clinton, Obama, Richardson, Dodd and Biden all appear to at least be capable of thinking through problems to come up with viable solutions. Which would be a welcome change from the president we all have suffered through the last 6 years with.
Well, Jerry, the parade of fools is yet to come. The Republican debate will win the award as the saddest comedy show of the year. So, I hope you pull up to the TV with your sandwich made of white bread and your cheap beer and have a gas...literally.
If that's the best the Democratic party has to offer then a Republican will be in the White House in '08. Thank god.
If that's the best the Democratic party has to offer then a Republican will be in the White House in '08. Thank god.
I'm hoping someone confronts Rudy Giuliani next week about his fearmongering -- and reminds him that it was a Republican president and himself who were on the job when the 9/11 attacks -- hardly something to inspire confidence. Brian Williams, are you listening?
I think part of the caution we saw last night was in part because anything they said could and would be held against them. It must get pretty stressful to know that the Republican dirty tricks department has you under a microscope. Repubs rely a lot on dirty tricks in lieu of good government. I'll have to agree with Matthew Roden above. I think there's an even chance there could be a Republican in the WH in 2208. Hopefully not before.
Ha! People like Jerry and Mathew will continue to say things like that right up until Novemeber 2008. At that point they will switch to the "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" talking point. Some people are just beyond help...
I don't think the Democrats worry about the Republican Dirty Tricksters, they'll get them anyway. The Republicans are the ones who have to worry, as the past has shown they are as viperous to their own, as they are to the opposition. Maybe moreso.
"Even the GOP sent out a victory letter last night. God, if this is what the democrats have to offcer, I'm not worried about anybody on the liberal side winning in 08". That's funny because they had the same talking points in NOV. 2006 and they got their asses handed to them. Keep up with the same nonsense talking points that will help your party move the direction of the Wig party.
Oh, well, what do you expect from the RNC? The whole bunch of republicans in power are in Never-NeverLand. What's up is down. What's down is up. How they wind up with the conclusions they do is because they can't get from point A to point B. They wind up at point D, for delusional.
NEWS Flash to the Dem. hopefuls: George Bush is NOT running for re-election. They sure look stupid criticizing HIS policies, which won't be in effect after Jan., 09. Do any of them even THINK the Repub. nominee is going to sit around and watch them bash a non-running President...actually, he probably will, while he pitches his own agenda and policies to the American people. God, this is going to be so much fun watching the Dem nominee run against GW, while the Republican candidate smokes him on the issues.
Where was the solidarity of the Democrats--with the exception of Obama, who mentioned New Orleans in a sentence--with the Katrina survivors? Why did nobody speak out regarding the importance not only to survivors but to the rest of America of making Louisiana, Mississippi, and the rest of the storm zone whole? I would not have been surprised by the "let them eat cake" Republicans' being silent on this matter in support of their "Dear Leader's" inaction. But for the Democrats--reputedly members of a "party for the people"--to thus remain silent is at the very least cowardly, at the worst, a betrayal of their own principles. Obeying the debate's rules is not a valid excuse--it smacks of the Nuremberg defense, "I was only following orders." The Democrats should have stood up and spoken out about the slowness of the recovery in Louisiana, Mississippi, and the rest of the storm zone, against Bush Administration neglect, and in support of Katrina and Rita survivors. There was a lot of "Wag the Dog" crap about abortion and the "right to life"--I have to ask, What about New Orleans' right to life? What about the right of people now in Houston, Atlanta, and other cities, who now cannot afford to do so because of the housing shortage, to return? The Democrats should have stood up to Brian Williams and let him know what really matters.
jtb, as long as the republicans SUPPORT Bush, it's fair to say they are included in the bash against Bush.
I like the way people continue to attack the president, even though he is not running this time. If you Liberals remember, you had a god in John Kerry, who was going to fix everything in the country. He reported for Duty, but just sat on the bridge and watched the Liberal boat go over Niagra falls. Jane, again, for the upteenth time. If you have to depend on goverment to get you out of a sticky situation, then you are just the kind of person who never amount to anything in life. I see a lot of people who are putting their lives back togather in new Orleans and mississippi just fine, only the liberal press never mentions those people. If they have serious problems, then yes they should be helped. But if you have a strong back and you want to get ahead in life, then put down the gumbo and bourbon and get to work! Goverment, either liberal or conservative will never help you out, as we learned. You have to help yourself.
jerry, what is wrong with you? My roof's fixed. The insurance didn't pay what it said they should pay in the contract, and that did upset me. The other few things will be fixed. They are not major. I live ninety miles north of the Mississippi Gulf. I am not claiming I needed help from the government, just that the insurance company didn't pay up, but I'm over that. We had three trees on our house. We got two off and volunteers from Tennessee got the other one off. We put tarps up before the "blue tarps" got here. We managed just fine. We were not carpenters, so we couldn't fix the damage we incurred - it wasn't just roofting tiles blown off, and it took ten months to get a carpenter. We worked our tails off moving things to the right of the way, had some help with a bobcat from volunteers from Alabama one morning, had a lot of trouble with a giant oak in the front yard that was uprooted, but we managed, lost everything in the freezer: vegetables from the garden, pecans from our trees, fish we caught, etc. We got money from the red cross and that was it, and it helped replace our food. We did waste $7.00 on a stuffed frog toy for our dog Yogi Bear. We named it Katrina. jerry, you assume too much, and you're not very smart when you do so. People on the Gulf Coast are in way worse shape than anyone up where I live. Bay St. Louis is gone, as is Waveland, where Katrina hit head on. Towns all up and down the Mississippi Coast are not the same. Nothing will ever be the same there. With or without government help, it won't be the same. Have you seen it? And I agree that the press, liberal and conservative, never mention Mississippi. It's like it didn't happen here.
Olivia, I am not so sure I would continue to hound Brian Williams as you have done and continue to do across every board you can access. At least he is giving you the opportunity to express yourself. Once he gets as tired of your NOLA tirades as most of the rest of us are, he might just pull the plug. By the way, as I have previously asked you, how much time have you spent on site in NOLA, post Katrina. I ask, because my step-daughter is there again for the next two weeks. Her church rotates members in for two week intervals. There must be something you could do to help there. If you took all the time you spend writing these angry, repetitive dissertations, you would have time to go help.
Jane, that is because you don't have a mayor of a chocolate city who ran away durinng the worst of the storm and cries about why he can't get any help. All those buses they had that could have gotten people out of there and he either too stupid or coming close to committing murder, to try and save those poor folks. When you have a disaster like this one, of course you hope the goverment bails you out. But people witnessed, this is not going to happen. You have to take accountability for yourselves.
Katrina Fatigue--God bless your step-daughter for going to the storm zone with her church and helping out. This is something I would dearly love to be able to do myself, but I'm too fragile physically and financially to do so. It breaks my heart that I am unable due to these circumstances to do this myself. So all I can do is offer my moral support and a sympathetic ear to Katrina survivors and cheer on those who are able to help or otherwise do right for Katrina survivors. And let those who don't treat Katrina survivors right know my serious dissatisfaction. I hope you are having a good day after judging me.
Olivia, you judge us all the time. If you wish to fully exercise your right to free speech, including verbally attacking all who have a different opinion from you, then it is unfair for you to take the position of victim when we choose to exercise our own right to free speech.
jerry, we did take responsibility for ourselves. Why do you imply in one post that we didn't, and then on another post start talking about New Orleans? We, my husband and family, don't live in New Orleans. Many, many people who were affected by the storm don't live in New Orleans. People in New Orleans are hurting and so are we. Where I live, most of us have relatives in Louisiana, being on the state line and all. We were all in the same boat, and are just doing the best we can. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything.
Katrina--I don't judge you and everybody else "all the time"--only when I've been judged first. And regarding the idea that I've been "verbally attacking" all who have a different opinion than me, I only do so after having been verbally attacked first. If you think I judge people all the time and frequently verbally attack other bloggers, you probably haven't read all of my posts or read what I'm responding to. I enjoy exercising my right to free speech in a good, intelligent, civil discourse with someone who disagrees--but if I am judged or verbally attacked I'll fight back. That's only fair. And by the way, why have you singled me out, when I've noticed others (no comment as to names) who seem to be far more judgmental than I and verbally attack others far more frequently than I do. The above applies to other bloggers. Regarding judging and verbally attacking public figures such as President Bush, the candidates, Brian Williams, et. al.--they're fair game. As long as they do things worthy of complaining about, I'll complain.


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