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Oh-eight (D): A Nader sighting

Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:10 AM by Mark Murray
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CLINTON:

No national reporter may know the Clintons better than the AP's Ron Fournier, and that's why his "Slick Hillary" lead today has to hurt the folks in Rosslyn. Fournier notes that her answers this week in front of AFSCME, where she ducked answering many questions were reminiscent of her husband, "Slick Willy." "Former President Clinton earned the nickname ‘Slick Willy’ for his mastery in the political arts of ducking and dodging. He had a knack for convincing people on both sides of an issue that he agreed with them. His wife may not be as smooth, but Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is doing a passable impression of the ever-parsing former president."

The Washington Post's Lois Romano profiles the women who run Hillaryland. "Once seen as a tight little sorority, today the group -- happily self-described as ‘Hillaryland’-- is at the center of a front-running presidential campaign. Never have so many women operated at such a high level in one campaign, working with a discipline and a loyalty and a legendary secrecy rarely seen at this level of American politics. Older and tougher, they have formed a closely knit Praetorian Guard around Clinton that plots strategy, develops message and clamps down on leaks. But their extraordinary protectiveness also contributes to an ongoing perception of insularity around the candidate and the campaign."

Another Washington Post piece also observes that she wasn’t booed as much at the “Take Back America” confab as she was a year ago. "Whatever her motives, Clinton's moves on the war have improved her political prospects in Iowa and New Hampshire. As she has emphatically called for troops to be withdrawn, a stance Edwards had adopted earlier, he has had to make more subtle points to show the distinctions between their records. And on a recent trip to Iowa, only one voter asked Clinton about her position on the war. Of course, resistance to her remains."

Clinton is not being untouched by the Bloomberg boomlet, obviously. Check out Ed Koch's sudden endorsement caveat. "Then there are those like Mr. Koch, a Democrat, who noted that his endorsements tended to come with a short half-life. ‘My position is that I’m being very careful,’ he said. ‘My endorsement of Hillary, who I like, is for her in the Democratic primary. My options are open in the presidential campaign.’”

And check out Ralph Nader’s comment of Clinton, per the Politico: “‘She is a political coward,’ Nader said. ‘She goes around pandering to powerful interest groups on the one hand and flattering general audiences on the other. She doesn't even have the minimal political fortitude of her husband.’” The article adds that Nader is mulling an ’08 bid “because he foresees another Tweedledum-Tweedledee election that offers little real choice to voters.”

EDWARDS:

In his speech today at Cooper Union in New York, Edwards will unveil his plan to reduce the rising debt that affects middle-class and working families, the campaign tells First Read. Edwards will also talk about his familiar “Two Americas,” but will also discuss his vision for “One America.”

Per excerpts, Edwards will say: “There are still Two Americas. One America that lives by the paycheck calendar; another that never has to look at the calendar before writing a check. One America that’s afraid it won’t be able to leave its children a better life; another whose children are already set for life… I have learned something in the last four years, though. It’s not enough to talk about the Two Americas. We also need to talk about what we need to do to build One America – and to do that, I believe we have to build One American Economy. We should start with the Wild West of the credit industry, where some abusive and predatory lenders are robbing families blind. It’s time for a new sheriff in town.”

OBAMA:

The campaign is touting a speech Obama is giving on Friday on government reform in New Hampshire. The setting and issue seem a bit familiar. Clinton gave her government reform speech in New Hampshire as well.

Perhaps tied to his speech on Friday? The Chicago Tribune notes that "Obama, one of several senators running for president, will become the first White House hopeful to detail his earmark requests when his office posts his 113-item list online Thursday."

A soon-to-be-released biography of Obama, written by a Tribune reporter, details the candidate as “a far more calculating politician than his most ardent supporters might imagine.”

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No more Nader.  He is and always has been a loser. Please someone head him off and stop him.
Some people blame nader for Al Gore's defeat in 2000, so I can see why the libs would be nervous about another run. Part of the problem involving the middle class was all the easy credit that people could get and all the toys people wanted(TV's, DVD's, cars, boats, etc.).  All the easy money available for housing and now people losing their houses because they failed to read the fine print in the contracts. The middle class in america forgot that you have to work hard for the money and save, there is no easy way to make money.  Same problem for our congress since 2000, spending money like drunken sailors and that continues today as well.  For John Edwards to sit there and lecture the middle class is just too funny in itself.  Pretty hard to elect a new sherriff when he wears a solid gold badge and lives in a place few dare to dream of.  I guess if rudy had a bad day on Tuesday, Hillary is really feeling it today.
NADER!!!  NOT RALPH???  HEY I am so glad my 1966 Corvair is snug in the garage, taking her to a show tonight...can not wait till dark.  Tell me he is not in NEW ENGLAND.  Well there is "SAFETY" in numbers so all the "Corvarist" will run him over!
OH GOD JERRY GO TO CHURCH WITH YOUR SERMON.
There is still time to check out hillary's web site, just go to HILLARYCLINTON.COM , it's "free" and the information s priceless.
Well, well seems Hillary has the boys shorts all in a twist. Pot shots every where...we must really have 'em worried!
It's high time Edwards came out with a concrete plan regarding New Orleans' recovery which addresses problems unique to that city and to Louisiana such as the "Road Home" snafu and coastal wetlands restoration. So far, when he's been in New Orleans, he has only used her as a backdrop and only paid "lip service" (as Harry Shearer recently put it in the Huffington Post) to her recovery. I'm embarrassed to admit that late last year when Edwards kicked off his campaign in the Lower 9th, I actually believed that he'd not only focus attention on the need to bring back New Orleans and the rest of Louisiana, Mississippi, and the other states impacted by Katrina and Rita but also come up with concrete proposals to meet that end that would form part of his platform. So far, as far as I know, he hasn't. And he hasn't even done enough to keep media attention focused on New Orleans, nor has he done anything that would ensure Katrina recovery's being treated as a valid campaign issue by the mainstream media. Look at how in Democratic debates such stupid non-issues as Edwards' haircuts and hedge funds were asked about, but the relevant issue of Katrina recovery never was. It's time to hold not only Edwards' but all the other candidates' feet to the fire and force them not only to make Katrina recovery a campaign issue and push the media to treat it as such but also to force them to come up with a concrete platform regarding rebuilding and other allied issues. If this does not happen, there is no hope for Louisiana, Mississippi, or the rest of the area hit by Katrina and Rita, the Dems as well as the GOP having written them off to slide down the tubes.
WHY IS IT THAT THE REPUBLICANTS DUST OFF THE SAME OLD PLAY BOOK?NOW IT IS SLICK HILLERY.  
What we don't need is Nader effing up another election. He must be on the payroll of the RNC. He got what? one or two percent of the vote in 2000? He should go to work for Osama. They need a good man like Ralph to screw things up big time, and Bush has about outlived his usefullness to al Qaeda. You're doing a great job, Bushie - for the enemy.
OLIVIA..I truly think that Edwards will be our best hope for Mississippi recovery.  I have been appalled
at the state  of that State BEFORE Katrina. The Mississippi Delta region has been a THRID WORLD area
for years. Before we send another penny ANYWHERE we must improve conditions for the poorest of the poor.
I'm sick to death of people whining that Edwards cannot talk about poverty and the middle class because he now is very wealthy.  He grew up poor!  He is a self-made man, unlike a fairly large group of politicians, including the current president.  He has been on both sides of the two Americas and that makes him as qualified, if not more so, than anyone else in the field.
YA and he said bad things about my 41 year old baby blue Corvair. I hate him...bad man dissing my!!
Well there's another so-called journalist to cross off my list of good reads.  That Ron Fournier has to resort to name-calling type and labeling candidates in order to get his point across... Just another sign of how lazy the press (and their editors) have gotten.  

Hey, if you want to be an opinion writer - make sure it is labeled as such.  If you want to be a journalist - keep your opinions to yourself and just report the facts.  And if you want to be labeled an analyst - make sure you're working with facts and not labels and for sure don't let your personal opinion color the conclusions drawn from said facts.

LOL, The federal goverment gave Louisiana $100,327,000 this year for waterwork projects.  Democratic senator Mary Landrieu was walking around like she was the woman of the year.  Only problem, none of the money went to making the dikes safer or help with the flooding problem.  The democrats are no better then the republicans when it comes to fixing new orleans, specially their own Senator
YES that piece of drivil Fournier wrote turned me off. I will know not to read anything he spews again.
Kudos Deb.
Keep LOL'L jerry helps ya from crying. WHY don't you just scoot on down to New Oleans and help that poor sad Democrat get things done.  Go help out jerry, make ya feel like a REAL man. YOU can even live there jer, land is real cheap. Bring a tent.
Do you have any skills to offer, not your big mouth, real skills?
I have despised Ralph Nader ever since the early 70's when I was in college and found out that he used coercive authoritarian tactics to force college students to support his groups with an imposed tax on each one without the benefit of a vote.  Someone who believes that is the moral way to operate should never be president or even influence who should be president.
Edwards will be our best hope for Mississippi? How about you democrats just work on fixing the mess you've made out of Louisiana for the last 60 years. I've got family living in Mississippi. They don't need your kind of "help"

Poor, Jerry, has nothing positive to add to the political debate or assist the 'real' victims of the Dubbya FUBAR. So all he does is take cheap shots without offering proof of his accusations - [Jerry, how do you know that none of the $$went to 'waterworks projects'? Prove this!

Prove your slur that Edwards is "going to lecture the middle class" on their spending; which you infer but carefully don't say - ala Bush's careful parsing - the story above doesn't say that. The one thing you were right about is the GOP controlled Congress spending $$ "like drunken sailors" - [are you inferring spending on booze and women?] This Congress is trying to cut spending, Jerry, trying to cut 'Pork' and trying to help real Americans; the people Dubbya and 'Shooter' Cheney ignored in their rush to give the away the Treasury keys to their cronies and Corp. sponsors.

Do try much harder, Jerry to use factual data instead of GOP slanders in your posts thus keeping the political discourse 'interesting'; it seems possible, Jerry, that you might have a problem with being "morally confused."
Whether the folks down jerry's way want to admit it or not.....if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, she will win the election hands down.
Don't worry jerry.....she'll be a good President.
H P Boston--Excellent post bringing up the Mississippi Delta. Did you see the Washington Post article on that area that was on MSNBC the other day? I read it and it's shocking how the impoverished African-American farmers of the Delta are really getting the short end of the stick when it comes to earning money for what they produce. The only farms that have been doing well in the Delta are those of well-off white farmers. I agree 100% that we should spend money helping the poor at home first before spending it overseas.
When did we become as close minded as the republcans?? When we don't agree with something we just they are lazy and we're never going to read them again.  I thought US not being that way--made us different. Am I wrong?? Ron Fornier has nothing personal against the Clintons he writes as he sees it.  PERIOD.
jnbitn----it's called the internet, anybody with a brain can look it up.  Just takes a brain, suggest you shop for one on E-bay.  everybody knows Louisiana politics is pretty screwed up, so screwed the libs ended up murdering their own people by not fixing the problems to begin with.  The state could have done it, but they were busy with gambling and other not so worthwhile projects and just let the City of new orleans sit there at the mercy of hurricanes like katrina. The mayor just wants blacks in his city (said it on MSNBC).  Well, Ray, you have them, put them to work!  Just make sure you have enough bus drivers for the next storm so you don't lose those buses as well. Olivia and you other crescent city people, why not ask your Senator what happened to the 100 million nancy pelosi gave you and you wasted it on waterways that no one travels on?  I say no more money on New Orleans until they get the dikes and levees and flood control fixed and perhaps a 90% tax increase on everything from sanitation and wastewater to eating in their fine restaurants to pay for it!
Ralph Nader?  Still alive?  Still allowed out in public?  He does have that unique ability to be both Tweedledum and Tweedledee at the same time!  He fakes liberal credentials to help get "Bushie" elected.  Send Ralph to Iraq!  I can see the book title now "IUD's at any Speed" . . .
See jnbitn...if the brainless jerry can use the internet you can too!!  I think jerry is wrong you can not buy a brain on ebay.
Gee, Lewis, Cincinatti, I don't know. What would Jesus do?
And we will read what we want, as we see fit. We don't want to read you any more Lewis. PERIOD!

BTW he wrote about journalists contributing to campaigns.
jerry.........I suggest you do an MSNBC archives search using the word "infrastructure."
MSNBC did an article on the deteriorating infrastructure of the United States, from the outdated power grids, to the substandard bridges over large waterways, to the dykes and levees in N.O.
By the way, it was the G.O.P who had congress for 12 years and allowed these things to get this way....along with some help from Mr. Bush who's done NOTHING to improve the problems we face in these areas. You cant say it was because the liberals kept anyone from doing anything either. Same party president and congress for 6 years (republicans). They had the votes, nobody could have stopped them......and they did NOTHING.
'Splain that?
Shortly before Katrina New Orleans did do some work on the Levees, they built a freaking bike path on top of it.
Bike paths are notoriously poor defenses against flooding.
America, we want a President ""Not a flea head ""  ""Goose stepping , self serving, I am RIGHT BAG!!!  Playing the GENDER card des not GET IT!!!!

America wants Leadership and moral content!!! not scandals and smut!!!!!

Stay Home Hillary,, Your all the prementioned!!! Your far from being A President!!!!

So still no proof Jerry, just some gratuitous insults,  song and dance and duck and dodge..No proof Jerry = just mindless slander - AND since you say E-bay has brains, go buy one for yourself; be sure to get a rational one - with a fact checker and get one with a guarantee...
Clinton had the same problem and did nothing either for New Orleans. The state could have stopped it but did nothing, and to this day are still doing nothing.  getting 100 million + from Nancy pelosi and using the money not to fix the levees and the flood control system is a criminal act.  Why doesn't Henry Waxman investigate that?  because he is so embittered toward the GOP, he is letting certain taxpayer money go to waste instead of investigating that.


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