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Oh-eight (D): Nice press for Edwards

Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:17 AM by Mark Murray
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BIDEN:

The Des Moines Register reports that Biden will introduce legislation overhauling US policy on the detainees at Guantanamo Bay. "Our actions from Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo really have undermined our worldwide credibility," Biden said. "We, as they say, have created more terrorists. This is an attempt to legislatively redefine what I thought are basic precepts of the American criminal justice system that we have just blown away."

CLINTON:

The New York Times examines the female vote from the latest NYT/CBS poll, and it notes that women view Clinton "more favorably than men do, but she still faces skepticism among some women, especially those who are older and those who are married." For instance: "A majority of single women view Mrs. Clinton favorably, while married women are split." Also: "The poll shows that Mrs. Clinton might find additional supporters among certain groups. A third of politically independent women say they have not made up their minds about her. Similarly, liberal women make up one of her most reliable bases of support (66 percent of them have a favorable view) although one-fourth of them are still undecided."

Per the liberal news site TalkingPointsMemo, here's the letter to Clinton from the Pentagon we discussed above. Yet when one reads the letter in full context, it's hard to describe it as a full rebuke. It reads, frankly, more bureaucratic than anything else. In fact, one could interpret that the Pentagon is conceding they may have some contingency plans but won't talk about them publicly.

Remember when Russ Feingold was going to be the next maverick leftie politician?  Remember when he was going to be the anti-war answer in the '08 Dem primary? A new biography of the Wisconsin senator is coming out next week, and US News has an excerpt of a fascinating spat between Feingold and Clinton over the campaign finance legislation that bears Feingold's name.

EDWARDS:

In the new Time (we're still getting used to this whole Friday release thing), reporter Eric Pooley seems to be truly touched by the tour. Here's his lead: "After three days on the road with John Edwards in some of the poorest places in America, it's not only the depth of human need that hits you, but the layered and interlocking complexity of it — the way a complete lack of health care, for instance, can all by itself consign someone to ignorance and joblessness. But you're also struck by how so many of the people who have been dealt these difficult hands manage to play them with grace and fortitude. That may sound trite to some ears, but it probably wouldn't to anyone who has spent time with James Lowe," a disabled coal miner from E. Kent. "Maybe Edwards succeeds in linking those problems to the concerns of the middle class and ignites his candidacy. And maybe he doesn't. Either way, he did some good this week."

Meanwhile, the Economist weighs in on Edwards and claims that he “is a man of big plans. No other presidential candidate, of either party, can match the sheer quantity, let alone the ambition, of his policy ideas. He has grand, progressive, goals—to end the war in Iraq (obviously), provide universal health care, address global warming, eliminate poverty in America within 30 years—and detailed blueprints of how to do it all… If Obamamania fades, or the Clinton machine stalls, an Edwards nomination is just possible. But even if the man himself does not make it, the Democrats' presidential platform will be shaped by Mr Edwards's plans."

The Boston Globe front-pages Edwards' poverty tour with the headline "Poverty is key theme for Democrats in '08." It even has a pull quote from Edwards and complimentary photo in which Edwards is framed between an American flag and a large image of Martin Luther King Jr.

Edwards’ hometown paper, however, gave it a more skeptical review.

The Des Moines Register also highlights that Edwards, in Iowa yesterday, was warmly received for highlighting poverty and for his sharp words blasting President Bush's record on the issue. "I want George Bush to come to these places that I just visited with me and look in the eyes of the people that I saw and tell them why he's turned his back on them."

OBAMA:

The Concord Monitor has the details of Obama's 11th visit to New Hampshire yesterday, where he drew 500 folks beside Lake Sunapee. He used the visit to call on the state’s two GOP senators to back the plan that Democrats were pushing during the all-night session earlier this week. "The crowd wildly cheered Obama's statements on Iraq, despite heavy rains and Obama's late arrival, 48 minutes after the campaign told supporters that they would begin serving ice cream."

The AP's coverage of this stop focused on an answer Obama gave about whether potential genocide in Iraq was a reason to stay. “‘Well, look, if that's the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces, then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now - where millions have been slaughtered as a consequence of ethnic strife - which we haven't done,’ Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press. ‘We would be deploying unilaterally and occupying the Sudan, which we haven't done. Those of us who care about Darfur don't think it would be a good idea,’ he said. Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois, said it's likely there would be increased bloodshed if U.S. forces left Iraq. But he said there was a greater risk in Iraq by staying.”

RICHARDSON:

How many times have we seen a version of this story? A government official leaves for the private sector and sees his personal assets "soar." Bill Richardson saw a 10-fold increase in his personal assets after working in the private sector for just two years before becoming New Mexico governor.

Here's the kindest way someone has described the amazing brisk policy evolution going on with Richardson: Salon's Walter Schapiro calls it an "in-progress campaign platform."

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Thank you Joe Biden. The treatment of detainees Abu Graid and Guantanamo has been disgraceful. This treatment violates the ('quaint' per Gonzogate) Geneva Convention. Those people who criticize trial lawyers should look at the lawyers kn Bush's 'Justice' Department. They're absolutely disgraceful. This is the most evil adminsitration since Reagan.
It's just too bad that this initiative comes in the context of Biden's failing and irrevelent campaign. Presidential
I agree with Sierra, let's close Gitmo!  These scum of the earth have no business being in our jails in the first place!  Let us send them back to their country of origin, so they can be tortured without our interference.  As they scream from having their toenails ripped from their bodies, they will curse the liberals for caring about them.  AS they are fed slop that would make a billy goat puke, they will remember the 3 squares a day our military fed them.  As they sit in a dungeon hearing their comrades screaming and begging for mercy, they will realize they had it better at Club Gitmo.  I will enjoy the stories of how they were treated in their own country, treated as well as Michael Vick treated his dogs.  After all, the liberals feel that having water poured over your head is very very bad.  You are right Sierra, Gitmo is no place to keep those people.  Let their own goverment handle their problems, probably give them a 10 yard head start and mow them down with machine gun fire or beheaded like they do in Saudi Arabia.
Well deserved good press for Edwards.  

Very honorable man.
So in other words, the New York Times has made my argument for me.  Single, stupid women are going to vote for her while older, smarter women are on a wait and see approach. Edwards may be a good soul and a good listener, but he is still the wrong person to talk about poverty.  His own hometown newspaper doesn't give him much credit, as well as his own home state.  But that's alright nobody in Tennessee likes Al Gore either. But just like all politicians, when the end of the day comes, poverty is still there and will be there.  Edwards and all his plans, if he is so good, why is he third then?  Could it be all the other stuff (haircuts, hedge fund, his wife) have taken their toll on his campaign?
Actually, jerry, lots of the people sent home from Gitmo were released by their governments once they got back.  The problem with the detention at Gitmo is that these people's guilt has never been proven, nor have they ever been charged with anything.
maybe romney would be the best candidate to address the poverty issue, he could be for it one day against the next just like any other issue he addresses, the only thing that romney has shown to do consitantly is spend $1200 a week on his make up artist and keep the dust blown off that roof ridin canine that he likes to strap to the top of his car on special occassions, with romney you would have a new president everyday because he would be for something one day against the next, there is a name for that type of disorder isn't there, I bet he gets to park in the handicapped space at those posh hotels he stayes at because of his "condition", class act that romney
Jerry,
Not sure what you know about Tennessee, but Al is very well liked in Tennessee - just not the wealthy parts of Tennessee and as for those parts of Tennessee - Franklin my Dear I don't give a damn about them - Belle Meade, Brentwood, Germantown (Memphis rich not the Beale Street area), could care less if they even eat tomorrow, they are the "snooty I could care less about you except the part of where you take care of my children, wash my car, clean my house, and mow my grass at a wage I would snub my nose at" new move ins that the natives don't like or want.  Al would never have lost Tennessee if they had kept their snooty buts in Texas and Florida - wish they would go back home, can't tell you one thing they have done to promote my state or the people in it.  So, you are wrong, I like Al and Tipper - so does most of my family (a very large one) and neighbors.  That would be like me saying no one in Texas likes shrub - oh wait, that is starting to change according to my uncle who lives not far from the "ranch", haha.  Actually it is Fred most of us don't like.  Ever wonder why the ugly goat only served one term in the Senate?
jerri you gossip so good please join us for kool-aid and more gossip
Its a mixed poll for Clinton. There's also some good news for her in that there is some signs of her image softening among some women, and also some signs of room to gain support.

But the age thing and the education thing isn't so good for Clinton. Older and better educated people tend to vote more reliably.

This is a reverse of some earlier indicators we had, suggesting that the younger voters were leaning more toward Obama and older more toward Clinton. Now if this poll is accurate we may be seeing a dynamic of where older people are waiting to see what happens, while younger are deciding earlier, and tending to split along educational lines between the two.

A number of people are either figuring out independently or repeating the notion that we might be coming up on a "Dewey wins" moment with regard to polling. The problem pollsters have now is that a growing number of younger and even middle aged professionals don't have wired phones, and pollsters thus far either aren't allowed or simply just don't call cell phone numbers.

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA / the polls are about as likely to be unbiased and correct as romney is not to flip flop, most always the pollsters have an agenda and a targeted sample, that being said they most likely are not going to be a good indicator of how people in the nation as a whole are going to vote, they are entertaining though, they are also a powerful tool to sway uniformed voters, people who don't stay up on the issues will take a look at some poll and say well this person has the majority of the people behind them so they must be OK, or see someone that they might like, see they have bad numbers and think there is no need voting because they can't win, it would be better if there were no polls and the issues were all that were seen, but polling is a very lucrative business now, and also a very dishonest one, if you want to spend enough money you can get whatever poll numbers suit you
Richardson is lying about Iraq (no forces left behind).  Clinton is unclear, and Obama has no specific plan. Edwards is playing to the anti-war crowd - and he doesn't have an idea about what to do.  The only one being honest about this is Biden.
...And what about the Clintons' multi-fold increase in their wealth once they left Washington?  As far as Edwards's poverty tour, I applaud him for doing it...but the guy is so 2004.  Time to turn the page and vote Obama.
Jerry-I guess you fall into the stupid white middle-age male  group who thought Bush was a down to earth fellow who you can drink beer with.YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!  
Everytime Biden opens his mouth there's a corresponding increase in global warming.
The Clintons thumb their noses at campaign finance reform.   ince 2000, Bill has earned a truly astonishing $41 million speaking in front of lobbying groups, special interests, PACs, and in one case what is probably a front for the Chinese government.   This is while Hillary is a Senator who introduces and cosponsors bills that these parties have an interest in – including bills to temporarily suspend the duties on a whole raft of imported products from China and Japan while Bill was earning six-figure fees from industry groups in those countries.

It would be a fairly long article to detail all of Bill Clinton’s questionable earnings while his wife was in Office – it takes a number of speeches to reach $41 million even at more than one hundred thousand dollars a speech.   I can certainly understand why he decided to earn as much as he could, but it presents some very troubling ethical dilemmas for his wife.

Bill Clinton earned over $700,000 from the Chinese Company CLSA, a brokerage and private equity group.   They own ALOK Industries, Ltd., which “possesses vertically integrated, state-of-the-art production facilities for Home Textiles, Woven and Knitted Apparel Fabrics, Garments and Polyester Yarns.”   Hillary Clinton co-sponsored over 25 bills to eliminate tariffs on various imported products.   Among these are “knitted or crocheted fabrics of cotton”, “artificial filament single yarn”, “cosmetic bags with a flexible outer surface of PVC”, and “certain woven fabrics of cotton.”    A cynical person might wonder if CLSA made a good return on their $700,000 investment.

Bill Clinton earned more than $1.2 million speaking in front of real estate industry lobbying groups and companies – such as the National Association of Realtors and the Mortgage Banker’s Association.   At the same time, his wife sponsored a bill that was much desired by the realtors – the “Community choice in Real Estate Act” which prevents banks from competing with realtors or mortgage bankers.  

Some of Bill’s speeches boggle the mind and make me wonder if he is trying to sabotage his wife’s ambitions.   He earned $300,000 from the “Australian Council for the Promotion of the Peaceful Reunification of China”, which is pretty clearly a front group for the Chinese government.   He made $800,000 from “Gold Service International” which is a Columbian “development” group.   (One wonders what kinds of products they develop.)     He earned $125,000 from Ness Technologies, Inc., which specializes in outsourcing IT jobs.

There are some intresting ironies in Bill’s haul.   He earned $100,000 from a company that makes campaign trinkets like Barack Obama’s much-mentioned keychains.    He got $125,000 from Compuware Corp., whose CEO Peter Karmanos is currently Romney’s top campaign contributor.   Although he got nearly $4 million speaking in front of various Jewish interest groups, he also earned more than $1 million speaking in front Abu Dahbi “conferences” set up in conjunction with his favorite Network Marketing company “The Power Within.”   Bill Clinton got paid $200,000 by Info USA, which owns the polling company that is used by CNN.

Bill has earned somewhere around $2 million speaking at close friend Tony Robbin’s “seminars.”   The Power Within paid over $200,000 to the Federal Trade Commission to settle claims that they lied to their customers about the potential earnings of their network marketing plan.  

It has taken me a week just to categorize all of the 250+ companies that Bill has spoken in front of.   Bill earned over $1.5 million from healthcare companies or lobby groups – which are probably eagerly waiting to see if their investment pays off when (if ever) Hillary announces her healthcare plan.   The Hotel lobbies that paid Bill are probably eager to see what her stance on immigration will be, and I’m certain that the broadband and telecom companies want to see if another President Clinton can move forward her stalled plans to spend millons on rural broadband access.
### Bush was a down to earth fellow who you can drink beer with

Unlike you, Bush is a recovered alcoholic.
Horry Patter-First, I rarley drink, second, that is what alot of people thought about the Shrub and third he remains A DRY DRUNK!    
Uhh.The Senate introduced a bill that would prevent GITMO prisoners being placed in American prisons.It passed 94-3.Nearly every single last Democrat supported this bill. We will observe here that prisoners at Folsom [California,Pelosis and Boxers district],Pelican Bay and Corcoran[California,Feinsteins district],Joliet[Illinois,Omamas district],Rikers Island[New York,Clintons district]and Las Vegas Correctional for Women[Nevada,Reids district],are treated with far more brutality[Amnesty International at www.amnesty.org for more on that which include the use of dogs,guard-initiated combat between prisoners,refusal to allow medical treatment,torture,total isolation,rape of female prisoners and/or sexual exploitation,murder], than has ever been evidenced at GITMO which is one of the worlds most humane prisons with the possible exception of those in Scandanavian nations. Certainly,however,in America at the maximum-security level. Those prisoners we have offered to release have been refused entry into their own home nations. Others have returned to jihad,and now,with this Senate vote,even the critics of GTMO do not want them here.
Thanks for the links to some decent coverage of Edwards, for a change. Maybe the press is finally starting to get it. Edwards really HAS dedicated his life to fighting poverty. Those of us who support him have known that for a very long time.
"Horry Patter-First, I rarley drink"

Yeah, all the drunks say that.

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Hoary Patter, your name says it all.  shrub is your drinking, cocaine snorting illegal president.  Maybe you should send him to A.A.  

I am nearly 60 and at the age of 19, I was abducted and nearly killed by a cocaine addict.  Cocaine rots your brain in a way that alcohol can not even compare.  I have steered clear of the users, but have watched from afar, x-friends destroy themselves.  I have watched shrub with the same I am above all, only I have the power, only I matter, I am the decider, I, I, I, God asks me what he should do next and the HE!! with anyone who does not agree with me.  Because I am God, I can do anything I want to you and you are to shut up and not ask questions.  Maybe the whole WH is on cocaine.
You can all say that, this candidate is this, that candidate is that, I have my own opinions on most....Let's see, Biden's an idiot, whose been in Washington far too long and what exactly has he done? Clinton is a Megalomaniac, Obama is interesting, but untested, Juliani has more baggage than Samsonite, Thompson has his own baggage (under his eyes), McCain has too many liabilities to list, Romey has a religion founded by someone looking in the bottom of a hat.....and all of them, conservative, or liberal, are the quintessential “talking heads” pandering for the vote, saying what has to be said to the group that they're speaking to, trying for the perfect sound bite.....and just think, it makes no difference whether they're Republican or Democrat, everyone of them is a lobbyists target.

Personally, I don't care who the candidate is, what their party affiliation, it's all for naught, unless we rid the process of lobbyists that have the ear and the pocket books of these candidates before and after they reach office....If not, we'll continue to get the mushroom treatment (keep'em in the dark and feed them shit).

With the exception of Immigration, where the general public finally said we had enough, the taxpayers are being screwed at every turn with any major issue, Pharmaceuticals health care, petroleum & gas prices, jobs leaving our shores, taxation, gun laws, etc., etc., because the aforementioned candidates are all at the behest of a lobbying group protecting the interests of big business or various industries involved at the expense of the voting tax payer.

At last count there were 80,000 lobbyists in Washington, within 30 minutes of our candidates, elected officials, people we voted into office and then turn over to the lobbyists when they arrive in office.....Unless, this is changed through legislation, it doesn't make a difference whose in the oval office (although anyone would be better than Bush, he's a disgrace), it's going to be business as usual for the lobbyists who revel in the gridlock that keeps their honey hole clients in power....

It's something to ponder while you herald the talents and assets of all of these politicians who have been in Washington long enough to know all of these lobbyists by name....and have said nothing to the contrary about the inequity that their presence brings to the process.

>> I am nearly 60 and at the age of 19, I was abducted and nearly killed by a cocaine addict.

Sorry to hear that.

Have heard Barack Obama is in the race for President?  Read his books?  What do you think of him?
On yesterday's blog someone wrote about Thompson not being qualified and the GOP being desperate-well since when does being the wife of a immoral scoundrel ex-president and you a "take it on the chin" enabling, I support you honey(but really I hate you) and now I need your help-back boneless-manipulated woman qualify! Don't talk to me about how someone WILL do in office when none of us know how we would do. Show me how they have acted and reacted in the past. That's how this two job, 3 children raising, working AMERICAN MOM chooses who she votes for. I love this country and I support MY President and pollers don't know ME and don't speak for me and never will. If candidates want to see how people really feel about what's going on in this country I suggest you disquise yourself and get on the streets of America and see what the AVERAGE EVERYDAY AMERICAN wants to see happen in this country. We are still the backbone of this country and we are a mass of intelligent,knowledgeable people who have tremendous power and the more we are pushed the more likely you are to get a response. We spoke loud and clear in 2000 and 2004.


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