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Clinton: Obama 'irresponsible' & 'naive'

Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:57 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro

In an interview with the Quad City Times Clinton called Obama’s answer to whether or not he would meet with leaders who oppose the United States “irresponsible” and “naïve.”

The Davenport, Iowa paper wrote: “Clinton rejected the idea she reversed herself and added she wouldn’t foreclose talks with those leaders. But she wouldn’t promise it, either, and she added that Obama is regretting his answer today.

"'I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive,'" the New York senator said.

We will update when we get a response from the Obama campaign.

***UPDATE 2***Listen to Obama and Clinton's interviews with the Quad City Times.

And talk about a tight campaign, a Clinton staffer also on the line treated the interview like a conference call and told the reporter,"I think it's time to wrap up." The reporter paused a bit, asked a final question and then the call ended.

****UPDATE****Obama hits back

Obama himself responded to the Quad City Times, saying Clinton was creating a "fabricated controversy" and that what was "'irresponsible and naive' was voting to authorize the Iraq war."

“What she’s somehow maintaining is my statement could be construed as not having asked what the meeting was about. I didn’t say these guys were going to come over for a cup of coffee some afternoon,” he said. “From what I heard, the point was, well, I wouldn’t do that because it might allow leaders like Hugo Chavez to score propaganda points. I think that is absolutely wrong.”

"He likened the position to a continuation of the Bush administration diplomatic policies," the Quad City Times writes.

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Of all issues of the debate, Hillary has made a concerted effort to ensure this dominates the news cycle.  How long will this go on, and how much longer will we play along?
Gosh,  I guess he is really getting to her.  The pigs are starting to squeal.    I don't think she wants to take him own.  Better watch those negatives Hillary.  LOL
This just in from MSNBC: Vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, we won't stop tipping the scales in her direction until you, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, we can't say it enough, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton...
This just in from MSNBC: Vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, we won't stop tipping the scales in her direction until you, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, we can't say it enough, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton, vote for Clinton...
I think by November 2008, the country will regret Hillary Rodman Clinton.
What an intellectually insulting argument by Clinton.  Obama never said he wouldn't make preparations before meeting with those world leaders, and simply did not get to address that point because he was not allowed a rebuttal after she spoke; Clinton's attempt to take advantage of something Obama did even not get a chance to respond to is dishonest and misleading.  Why pundits are not calling her on this and just amplifying the misconception is beyond me.  

Reality check on the propoganda issue: any non-democracy with state owned media is inevitably going to use a meeting with a US President as propaganda, no matter how much preparation, planning, or lack of prior disclosure about the meeting.  That's just the way countries with state-owned media operate, and if propaganda is the deal-breaking reason not to talk, we will continue not to talk with those countries just as we haven't been under the Bush administration.  This is all obvious logic that responsible political analysts would be interjecting with right now, instead of being a copy machine for Clinton press releases.  
Neither have what it takes to lead this country.
Hillary will send Maddy not so bright over there instead.  Hillary will only meet with leaders who will kiss her ring.
She jumped on that like flys on ...... He could come back with a sound bite that says he didn't mean him personally as president but his administration if elected
The woman's a charlatan. Learned from her scum bag husband.
But both have more than the current president, which makes one wonder
Hillary is using the issue to cover up her lack of experience as a presidential candidate.  
"Direct Negotiations (with enemy states) are not a sign of weakness; they are a sign of leadership."  "The Bush Administration's refusal to talk to anyone on the evil side, as some have called idealistic, I call it dangerously unrealistic."  --Hillary Clinton, October 31, 2006 at the Cuoncil of Foreign Relations
We will be in big hurts if Mrs Clinton gets in, once a liar always a liar, ARkansas remember how that went.Demo or repub I don't believe a woman should be in that high office, no offense ladies, but that is not a womans job. she needs to stay out of it,and Mr Clinton Mr First Man, come on
Regarding Clinton experience:  I read last week that Bill Clinton is campaigning for his wife like he is "running for his third term in office".   While I do feel horrible for the way he was hunted down by the Republicans in Congress during his second term (they clearly had an agenda to destroy him), I still can't see the justification for a Clinton third term.  No amount of fundraising, campaigning, governing or authority will change the past.  It's not fair to the American people to have the office of the President used as a way to avenge the misdeeds done to him during his time in Washington.  It's just too late to go back and make it right.  It will do absolutely nothing but mire us in the partisanship that has frozen our country for 20 years.   And now that I think of it, it makes me understand the current President Bush's motivations:  it's feasible that a small part of him wanted to be President, and in turn invade Iraq, to avenge his father's re-election loss and his failure to oust Saddam Hussein.  Well, enough already.  No one should be running for office based on what has happened in the past.  It's time to move forward.  Just remember, you can't have a dynasty without the nasty.  Go Obama!
1)  What's more irresponsible and naive:

Hillary's trusting the Bush administration enough to cast her vote to authorize the war, when other U.S. Senators (and Illinois State Senators) knew better...

OR

Barack's choosing to meet with hostile world leaders who the U.S. happens to disagree with on foreign policy, rather than continue the diplomatic style of the Bush administration...?

2)  Does anybody really think that Barack would allow himself to be used as propaganda by a hostile foreign leader, or that he would haphazardly just sit down, shake hands, smile, and give anything away that was contrary to U.S./World long-term interests?
We will be in big hurts if Mrs Clinton gets in, once a liar always a liar, ARkansas remember how that went.Demo or repub I don't believe a woman should be in that high office, no offense ladies, but that is not a womans job. she needs to stay out of it,and Mr Clinton Mr First Man, come on please
Jerry, we agree on something!

i'm already sick of her.

and Jim in DC-- right on.  so sad and true.

and Rick in GA-- who does in your mind, slimey Mitt Romney?  
She who voted FOR the Iraq war is now calling him who did NOT vote for the war irresponsible?  I fear Hillary is getting shrill and shrewish. I admire Obama's courtesy and candor.
Clinton, irresponsible is not reading intellegence reports before sending our men and women off to war. irresponsible is sending our jobs overseas, thank you NAFTA.
Refusing to meet with foreign leaders has gotten us into the wonderful situation we find ourselves in now.  
It makes me "sick" that so many millions of dollars that could go to good use, is spent on "crap" like this and negative campaigns.
MSNBC. Will you ever question or challenge Mrs. Clinton?  Are you paving a non obstructive super highway for her from Iowa to Super Tuesday?  Sure seems like it.  Don't make me start watching the Fox Noise channel.  That just wouldn't be nice.
Anyone is better than bush and his warmongering empirialist cronies
If Ms. Clinton wants to talk about iresponsible, she needs to answer about her support for continued outsourcing of American jobs, her calls for more H1-B visas when 30% of our own engineers and programmers are out of work, her proposals to allow in foreign medical workers (like nurses) to platcate her supporters in the overpriced health care industry who object to paying Amercian nurses $50,000 a year and want to bring in tens of thousands of foreign nurses to drive wages down. She needs to answer for her vote forbidding American's from bringing in perscription drugs from European pharmacies, where every batch is tested, but allows for discount chains to bring in Chinese and Indian drugs that are not tested and are now in many cases known to be poisonous. Ms. Clinton is nothing more than a corporate puppet, pretending to stand for working men and women.
Comment- Do we as Americans want another 4 to 8 years of the same thing (Clinton)( Bush).  Obama has a fresh outlook for what the people want.  When Mrs. Clinton use a sounthern tone in the south, It showed that she is a fake.  That mean the truth is not within her.  If Obama wins the primary, I will vote for the very first time in my life.  I am 49 years old
Of course she said that. Obama's message is resonating with people and they are starting to realize that Obama is a geniune chance for changing business as usual in D.C.  Clinton is more of the same tired old political mud. She has to try and tear him down or he'll run right by her.
Go Hillary! Obama IS very inexperienced.  No matter what you may think of Hillary, she has years and years of experience, and Obama doesn't.  To think otherwise is foolish.
It seems to me that Obama used every question to try to boost his rating for the presidential race instead of just discuss the issues, he put down everything about Hillary to try to make himself look better.  Doesn't he know that people can see right through that kind of bull?  I don't appreciate it when someone tries to use a public forum like this to help himself get votes.  Hillary clearly seemed the most prepared and knowledgeable of the group and she did it without trying to make anyone look bad.  
The words petty and vindictive come to mind.  Typical Haillary.
MSNBC. Will you ever question or challenge Mrs. Clinton?  Are you paving a non obstructive super highway for her from Iowa to Super Tuesday?  Sure seems like it.  Don't make me start watching the Fox Noise channel.  That just wouldn't be nice.
The words petty and vindictive come to mind.  Typical Haillary.
This shows again that Obama is about change and Clinton is supporting the same old arrogant diplomacy that led us to this stupid war in the first place. Diplomacy is what helped us put the pressure on Iran. JFK met with soviet leaders and Reagan met with the bad guys as well. Now Obama is linking his philosophy to JFK and Reagan and Clinton is linking it to George Bush. I think this tells us who can lead us to a new Iraq war and who on the other hand would handle crisis such as the cuban missiles crisis.

Diplomacy could have saved so many lives in Iraq but Clinton and others chose to let our men and women die because they did not feel like hurting their own politicAL ambitions. Clinton is so into acting tough she lost common sense. If you want soldiers to get into another war Vote Hillary.  
The last time we had a Democrat for a President we had peace, a zero deficit, and the poverty level was lower.  Our men and women were not being killed in a useless war.
 Bush said at the beginning of his second term there are 45 million people without insurance.  Now there 46.5 million.  Congress wants to give free health care to the uninsured children.  Bush says he'll veto it.
 Republicans DON'T care about people.  They are for big business.
 If you want to continue to see our men and women get killed and have this country continue to go down the drain, vote Republican.

                           Wayne Packard
It is ashame that the media pick and choose what they think the public shuold be allowed to hear.
the media should just let ia all be told to its completion, that way we as the people can get the full picture. I nthink that you guys are not playing fair or should  say are playing only on one side. Let us hear and see it all.
Hillary is an extremely accomplished and able woman.  I look forward to electing her our next president.  Not only will she be a vast improvement over President Bush (anyone is), she is more qualified than most of the other candidates from either party. Barack Obama is inspiring and promising, but I don't think he's built enough of a resume to lead our country.  Edwards is ok.  There's things I like in most of the democratic candidates and practically nothing I like in the republican candidates -- they're too preachy -- pro-life (yah, right; i.e., Iraq), anti-gay, too moralistic (uh-huh, e.g. Guantanamo, torture).  And more important, it's the republican party that has led us into this disaster and thumbed its proverbial nose at our constitution. Hillary Clinton will get my vote.
Given who sits in the White House today it obviously doesn't take very much to lead this country.  I believe GW ran on Gods coattails and then ran the country into the ground.  I'm not a big fan of Hillary but good grief either her or Obama have more sense than any of the kow towing to the Religious Right Republicans that are out there now.
I think Obama and Hillary would both make fine presidents. I am voting for Obama, but WHOEVER wins the Democratic nomination is getting my vote. The ONLY person I am praying DOES not win is Guliani. People are really not aware of how polarizing that man is. If you think Bush is bad this guy is 100 TIMES WORSE!!!!!!!
I am not a Baby Boomer; I am not a member of the Greatest Generation.   My father did not go to WWII.  4 Uncles and one Aunt did.   I was born in 1940.   Who represents us, as I find I am liberal on issues but also conservative.   I am also a believer in individual responsibility.   Look in the mirror and act like you run this country for the best interest of everyone.   I have no problem voting for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama if they say what I need to hear.   Hot buttons:  the Environment, Eminent Domain (watch the Supreme Court), Healthcare, Immigration (most of us are illegal except those documented through Ellis Island but there were not safety nets when my ancestors came) and securing a future for our descendents.   I very much need to hear there is a future.  Thank you.
Comment- Do we as Americans want another 4 to 8 years of the same thing (Clinton)( Bush).  Obama has a fresh outlook for what the people want.  When Mrs. Clinton use a sounthern tone in the south, It showed that she is a fake.  That mean the truth is not within her.  If Obama wins the primary, I will vote for the very first time in my life.  I am 49 years old
Way to go Hillary! She (and maybe Joe Biden) are the only ones to understand the realities of today's world.  She's idealistic yet realistic and obviously has the ability to think through an issue before responding.  The others should learn from from her for 2016.
I surely don't want another CLINTON or BUSH.  Over twenty years of these two family in power is enough!!!
I am so sick of the media acting like Hillary's answers are so great. Why is it a bad thing to think outside the box instead of the publice getting practiced answers which Hillary is good for. I agree with Obama. I think it would be a good idea for United States to meet with our enemies.
Hey Hillary, you know how you love to court the Black vote.  "You try to call the brother out"  you will defintely lose. If you're going to try to be a "sista" they're not going to let you get away with that.   Come on I've been waiting, "Do it, please Do it"  show your true colors...so to speak.  Remember what happen with DG, last spring .   LOL
Anyone who still prefers Clinton to the other candidates in the field would think much less of her if they actually ever met her in person or spoke in a media-free environment.

I'd like to see more genuinely concerned candidates for President than power-hungry, reactionist individuals with a mental clarity dictated by polls and consultants.
I liked Obama's response.  I think what he was speaking to, was the current administration's use of noncommunication as a way to somehow bring these leaders and their countries to their knees or keep them on the back burner until the Iraq issue stops hemorrhaging.  At the very least, it's akin to giving the cold shoulder and who needs that?   I thinks its a fresh perspective to say this far in advance that Obama would speak with them (and not "at" them).  It really underscores for me a difference between he and Clinton that I suspected was there.  I get the feeling that another Clinton administration would engage in business as usual and that isnt what Americans want right now.  We can't afford business as usual.  The news clips of her campaign already out today saying that his remarks were naive are certainly politics as usual.  I also don't think that people are that idiotic to believe that as President, Obama wouldn't be advised and would ultimate go after he sends a diplomatic point-man first.  I think he would not add the laundry list of preconditions that Bush has to Iran. I think that he would meet with Korea without demanding that they only meet in 6-party talks or nothing at all.  I think that is what Mr. Obama was trying to convey.
Mr. Spence...probably voted for Bush twice.  He have no creditability as far as his thought who can lead this country.  People like him is why this country is going to the devil in a hand basket.  
Why is MSNBC so obsessed with electing Hillary Clinton?  Obvious bias...racism?
lets just have an anarchy, children can run the country better then politicians from any of the parties.
Neither candidate understands or appreciates the nature of the threat our country faces.


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