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Dems speak to Urban League

Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:32 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
At the National Urban League conference this morning, four Democratic presidential hopefuls -- Kucinich, Edwards, Clinton, and Obama -- discussed their agendas to help poor urban African Americans rise out of poverty. But they also took advantage of the stage to offer both indirect and direct jabs at their opponents.
 
Clinton and Obama were each asked what, if elected, they would do to help the urban plight, and both responded they would make a change at the attorney general level. "Number one, let's appoint an attorney general who believes in the civil rights laws," Clinton said. "In addition to actually enforcing the laws we have on the books, let's make sure if there are holes that need to be plugged and gaps we have to fill, we do that." Later, Obama said, "I will have a Justice Department that actually promotes justices, and an attorney general who cares about civil rights." 
 

Hillary's Southern And Obama's Black
It appeared that Clinton's parodied southern accent resurfaced while she was talking about her belief for a "new and different conversation" about the 1.4 million African American men ages 16-24 in prison who are considered to be a "threat, headache, or a lost cause."
 
Unlike his previous addresses to primarily African-American audiences, Obama today overtly appealed to the black vote. "The day I'm inaugurated, the country looks at itself differently, and don't underestimate that power, don't underestimate that transformation," Obama said in response to a question on racial polarization. "When the state of Black America comes out, I want it to say the state of Black America is strong. In order for that to happen, we've got to to form that base. If you don't think I'm the best candidate to do that, I will just ask you one question. Who's got capacity to put Mississippi in play, which is 40% African American?"
 
Polite Jabs
While talking about home buying and loans, Kucinich paused and said "these hedgefunds, what are they about" -- making a possible joke at Edwards' expense. At the conclusion of his speech, he promised he has the experience to start on day one -- something Clinton often says. "As president, I'll have a full legislative agenda ready. I'll be ready the first day to go to work."
 
Obama also took a gentle swipe at Clinton, stating he "is not going to have a conversation" about the need to transform the country. Later on, he said, "All of us, from what I can tell, agree with the need to expand early childhood education, all of us are talking about universal healthcare, although some of us more specifically than others" -- obviously referring to the fact that Clinton has yet to announce a comprehensive health-care plan.

And Edwards repeated his mantra that the system is rigged, stating "big interests" such as insurance and drug companies control what happens in Washington -- and then offered what appeared to be a shot at Clinton and her husband's presidency. "Do we believe these people who have power today, that they are going to give it away voluntarily? Man, I am here to tell you, they will never give it away voluntarily," Edwards said. "We cannot negotiate, politick, triangulate. None of that's going to work with these people. The only way you can take their power away from them is to actually take them on."

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Typical political pandering...What the hell do the AG has to do with the question asked?
I am getting really sick and tired of Clinton's parodied southern accent. Does she take voters for imbeciles, imitating their local accent? Can't she talk the same way everywhere? Is that too much to ask?
Compassion, dignity, sincerity. Either you have it or you don't. These are things you cannot fake.

Senator Barack Obama, we can't wait for you to come up here this summer.
Hillary: " I is a black woman" can't u tell, obama, he no black, vote me, I is like u. I will send you to war, cause I is not able to read intelligence reports
Um...I'm confused.  The state of Black America?  Is this a geographical location of which I am unaware?  

Let's not forget - Hillary lived in a Southern state for quite some time while Bill was the governor of Arkansas.  The accent tends to stay.  I'm not saying that she doesn't bring it out on special occasions as well, but let's be fair about it - she came by that accent legitimately.  She didn't go to Accents R Us.
TRILLIONS of dollars have been spent helping "poor" people move out of "poverty" and it has failed.

And Democrats want us to believe even more spending--which has proven to be a failure--is going to do the trick this time?

Poverty correlates with IQ scores.  It's true.  Check Wikipedia for details and links to more authorative research.

Just last night I was watching PBS and a GAO guy was saying that the United States has tens-of-trillions of UNFUNDED liabilities for Medicare alone.

Yet the DFL wants to expand welfare entitlements everytime they open their mouths.
you approved of steve's from louie ville....camon...you gotta be kidding...paroding ubonics seems off color and un appropriate to me. while I'm at.What up wit imus. is he alive and well. skip the well part as I'm aware his lung condition. doubt you answer... thought i'd ask...cain't blame for trying huh?
This is just the begining of a real debate. FYI, the blacks are going to come around for Obama come Jannuary once they know what he's done in the past and what he can do in the future.
This Saturday in New Orleans, per a blogger on the Huffington Post, there's going to be a "human levee" for human rights there. Reason being, the shaky nature of the levees and other flood protection there is falling disproportionately on New Orleans' poor areas. They don't want to move back to a place where they don't feel safe from future flooding. Also, poor evacuees homesick for New Orleans are having trouble returning due to the lack of affordable housing, undependable infrastructure, school and health care systems inadequate even for a city of her diminished size, violent crime, etc. Would it be too much to ask for any Democratic candidate to show his/her solidarity with New Orleans' poor and desire to make New Orleans whole and make an appearance at this "human levee"?
Carrie,

Living in a white isolationist state like Iowa, it's forgivable that you are not familiar with the Urban League or its annual report, "State of Black America."  See, there's always something for white liberals who claim to be 'down for Black people' to learn.
Steve, Louisville ky -- is that a Kentucky dialect?
Hillary Clinton aka Buck Wild from Flavor of Love.
I can't speak for other Southerners, but I find Hillary's accent switching disingenuous and insulting. In her Senate campaign she tried to convince people she was a New Yorker.  Now she wants us to think she's Southern?  I see a pattern here...
And in Iowa, Hillary's mailers say she's a midwesterner because she was born in Chicago.  Which is it, Princess of Pander?
Sounds like a page from The Mayor Nagel Book Of Public Speaking. 'it's going to be a chocolate Washington'. What are people going to be crying about in 50 years when everyone is a hyphenated(-)American.
To me a African-American belongs in Africa, you put it first. If you want to be here try calling yourself an American-African. How about being a American-American, working your hardest and being satisfied with what you make of yourself. Enough of the I deserve something extra because of my ancestors color. People asked for and demanded (rightly) equal rights. Then immeadiately went for the special rights. Stick to working for equal.
AND YOU WANT THIS WASHINGTON PAPER HANGER FOR A PRESIDENT??????  GET A BUCKET AND A BROOM THE BARN NEEDS CLEANING!!!!!!
So Hillary DID COME as Jar Jar Binks !!
Wow, go girl !!
You're so authentic !!

I hope she doesn't adopt a fake Hispanic accent for any Latino forum.

Hopefully, there won't be any White Supremacist forum (sponsored by Faux Newz ?).
Otherwise, Hillary would have to attend it in a hood.
InTheMiddle: The Bush regime has stopped enforcing Civil Rights laws. It's not a priority for them.

In fact, Alberto was trying to create fake voter fraud cases to intimidate minorities (Afro-Americans) from voting.
When US Attorneys didn't intimidate Afro-American voters they were fired. Read the news much ?

Mark:
Trillions of dollars have been spent on the CIA. They failed to warn us about or prevent 9/11.
The CIA also fantisized phoney WMDs in Iraq and helped get us into the Bush/Cheney Iraq war !!

Maybe we should stop spending money on the CIA !!!
The CIA can't find Osama!!
The CIA has failed !!!
What will more spending on the CIA do, Mark ???
what all the candidates are forgetting is that due to the Bush economy and job outsourcing there are more white people poor now than previously.
did Obama vote yes on the immigration bill that failed?
If "poor" AA want to get out of their situation then they need to pay attention in the free school that they get and get a good paying job. Education is the key to a life that is not governed by any guilt. Not waiting for the next federal handout and not saying that it is someone elses fault. Go to school, get decent grades, don't be a "homey" be a responcible member of socity and participate in the unique american experience and achieve. It is up to you and no one else. If you blame others, tough. Skin color is not a reason for your failure. Your family is not a reason for your failure. If you fail in America it is your fault. If you have normal mental capacity and you fail to achieve the fault is looking back at you in the mirror. If this seems harsh too bad its the truth. If you fail today it is your fault.
According to Sierra, we need to stop spending money on the goverment.  Since all that money would go to waste to help people out of poverty that are just too lazy to help themselves out of poverty in the first place, we just ought to pay off the bills instead of using it for goverment services.  Sierra is always asking "how do you pay off the war?".  There is your second start, already gave Sierra the first half, as proposed by Charlie Rangel (D-NY).  By stopping tax cuts and helping the poor and cutting off funds to the war and stop giving money to the goverment agencies and to heck with helping with AIDS in Africa and no more earmarks and no more nations to support and no more money for medical care for the elderly and no more money to candidates and no more money to the people that protect us, you can pay off the debt in a year.
Sierra: Who needs ''fake''[Sierra has not a scintilla of evidence for this], voter fraud when we can have REAL voter fraud [of which there is plenty of evidence],and by the usual Democrat suspects.

The Seattle Times.July 27,2007:''Felony Charges Filed Against 7[ACORN]In States Biggest Case of Voter-Registration Fraud''.

We were speaking of ''reading the news'',I believe.
Trillions spent on the CIA?  Not a chance.  It is not a line item on any budget, it is classified, but for the number of people and the number of resources they have?  I doubt they have gotten to 0.5 trillion for the entire time period the CIA has been in operation(60 years).

Save the rhetoric for something else so you don't look so silly.
Mark, spoken like a true Social-Darwinist. Firstly, the welfare state HAS been shown to eliminate poverty. Simply compare the poverty rate in Western Europe with that of the U.S. after 6+ years of Bushism. Secondly, IQ scores are dependent on the quality of education that the test taker has been given. The fact that poors have lower IQ scores only shows the inequality of the educational system. Maybe you should check YOUR facts. Or do white-supremists have a hard time reading?
Come on people; Southern Accents, Black, White Female/Male. Have we succumbed to the Bush, Chaney, Conservative Vetting style of cadidates and people. As for me I'll Listen to ideas. Many countries have been and are governed just fine by well qualified women and or black leaders. Bush was courted to run by the consevative leaders because he fit all the right molds (remember the conservatives trip to Texas for that purpose) and he is an IDIOT... so much for APPERANCES.
The democratic ticket is nothing! two face liar's, common Washington Paper Hangers! Billary, a self serving goose stepping radical, obama, timming is wrong, the remainder out of set with reality!

It is a shame these people can stand before camera's and smile while our troops are out right murdered in Iraq. Paper Hangers no not, for they have opened the gates to hell without knowning how to close them!

And you pledge your money to support these Paper hangers and then complain about what they have done to this country! Shame on You!
Iraq war is president Bush's war not Americas war, he invaded Iraq, now we all are suffering, our troops and innocent Iraqi's are paying for his mistake. There is no way now we can come out from Iraq sooner.!!!
Rich, you need to come to your senses. George W Bush faked up this disaster of a war and is responsible for the death of American soldiers and many innocent Iraqis. We are pouring all our our countrys monies into this LIE of a war and your fool president is to blame. Shame on you for being so blind and or brainwashed. Your blind loyalty is the ultimate in ignorance. Shame on YOU!
I'm all for making the tools available for the poor that want to work to make a better life for they're self’s and families, I am not for a blanket hand-out to people that just don't want to work, the problem is some people refuse to work and abuse the system to keep from working, these people deserve nothing


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