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Clinton campaign touts poll standing

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:36 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
On the eve of tomorrow's Democratic AFL-CIO forum (moderated by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann), the Clinton campaign has released another memo touting her standing in the recent national polls. "The polls went up for Hillary and the open attacks on her have begun," chief strategist Mark Penn writes. "Related? In politics it usually is."

"This ... is the result of the first six months of campaigning and the voters taking a good hard look at all the candidates and concluding that Hillary has what it takes to be President and what it takes to take on the Republicans. They know that Hillary Clinton has the experience and strength to bring about real change. She is the candidate of experience and change, a combination no other candidate can match. As a result we will likely see more attacks from her Democratic opponents, despite their claims to be practicing a new kind of politics or eschewing intra-party attacks."

Below is the entire memo...

To:    Interested Parties
From:  Mark Penn, Chief Strategist
Date:  August 6, 2007
Re:    Strength and Experience

The polls went up for Hillary and the open attacks on her have begun.  Related?  In politics it usually is.

The latest round of national polls last week - from Newsweek and NBC/Wall Street Journal - have shown Hillary making significant gains on two fronts - consolidating her lead among the Democratic primary electorate nationwide and advancing in the general election against likely Republican nominees.

This two-pronged movement is the result of the first six months of campaigning and the voters taking a good hard look at all the candidates and concluding that Hillary has what it takes to be President and what it takes to take on the Republicans.  They know that Hillary Clinton has the experience and strength to bring about real change. 

She is the candidate of experience and change, a combination no other candidate can match.

As a result we will likely see more attacks from her Democratic opponents, despite their claims to be practicing a new kind of politics or eschewing intra-party attacks.

Hillary Clinton's lead in the NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll - which had been as close as 5 points in the national primary vote a few months ago - has opened up to 21 points (July 27-30).  Hillary also leads Rudy Giuliani by 6 points, more than any other Democrat tested.  This is a reversal from March when she trailed Giuliani by 5 points.

And in the latest Newsweek poll (August 1-2), Hillary's lead in the Democratic primary is up from 16 points in June to 23 points now.

In the latest Diageo Hotline poll (July 19-22), Hillary's national favorability went up from 48 percent to 57 percent, and is now higher than any other candidate, Democrat or Republican.

Similar national polls by Pew and Fox substantiated the same trend: an increased lead in the Democratic primary and advancement against the Republicans.

And there are two bits of conventional wisdom that are challenged by these polls.  One is that Hillary can't win.  She said on day one she was in to win and she is already winning in the match-ups against likely Republican candidates.  Voters understand that this is going to be a tough, hard-fought election and they are looking for someone who can really take on the Republicans.  They know she knows how to win and that is reflected in poll after poll that says Hillary is the candidate most likely to win in November. 

We saw that in the recent NH poll (CNN/WMUR July 9-17: 47 percent say HRC has the best chance of beating the GOP candidate in November 2008, 30 points ahead of her next closest competitor), in the Iowa poll (ABC/Washington Post July 26-31: 35 percent say HRC has the best chance of getting elected president in November 2008, 12 points ahead of her next closest competitor) and in national polls (ABC/Washington Post July 18-21: 43 percent say HRC has the best chance of beating the GOP candidate in November 2008, 16 points ahead of her next closest competitor).

Another bit of conventional wisdom is the argument the voters don't want another Clinton. In the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll, 71 percent of voters are either positive or neutral about the fact that Hillary Clinton's husband is Bill Clinton, compared with only 28 percent who are negative.

Voters have simply come to see this race differently as the serious issues of the day have been raised.  When it comes to negotiating with our enemies and knowing how to create new alliances with our friends, Hillary has been steady and sure-footed, building confidence that she can be a great president during complex and troubled times.

And most importantly as people look at her position on the Iraq War, they realize that this election is not about the past, but the future and who can be the president who can end this war responsibly and yet continue to defend America's security.  She is expanding her vote among anti-war voters, women, Democrats, the middle class and voters who believe that she has the strength and experience to make change happen.

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Hilarity has lots and lost of experience doing the same old sh**.  Like being cowardly and voting for the war.  Like being for lobbyists.  She has NO experience that I've ever seen in either proposing or doing ANYTHING NEW!!
Therefore, she'll be the Democratic nominee, another sure-fire Democratic loser like Kerrry.  Whe'll be smeared and swiftboated into defeat, and we'll have, yes, folks, ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, probably a Bush clone. Or, worse, a Cheney clone.  Either way, Hilarity's a gauranteed loser. So of course the Dems will run her!  And I'll probably vote for her, because I'd vote for Satan himself (actually I missed that chance when I didn't vote for Cheney)rather than see another damn republican in the White House. But I'll vote knowing she's a gauranteed loser.
Such a Shame we have only Self Serving Washington Paper Hanging Maggots who WANT TO BE PRESIDENT! Not one is a Leader with Ledership traits! It's all about Gender , Money And race! Shall we again be plundered??
Polls bring out the TROLLS.
All you TROLLS come back in a year when things will be oh so different.
Ya wasting your time , too early to tell, who what or where.
A year I say, WE should live so long!
OMG, I can't believe someone has the balls to have the username "Bush Republican".
Hillary go for it. Obama should be behind Hillary
Polls bring out the TROLLS.
All you TROLLS come back in a year when things will be oh so different.
Ya wasting your time , too early to tell, who what or where.
A year I say, WE should live so long!  <<<<

Been reading this board for a couple weeks now.  I'll have to quit now, because I agree 100% with HP.  Agree probably for different reasons, but agree none the less.
unitedagainsthillary says it all, and why would I want to go to an obviously bias website to find out anything about HRC or any candidate?  Are you really listening to the debates?  This sort of reminds me of the Bush - Kerry debates when you had a lot of people saying Bush won the debates, and I'm trying to figure out what debates were they watching.  You know what else I'm trying to figure out or find?  Someone who will admit that they voted for Bush!  What happened to all of the Bush supporters?  If you are a Republican I understand why you are against HRC, because you are afraid of her!  Do you think they (Republicans) really think they can beat HRC? Of course not, once upon a time they thought they could beat her, but they know that's not the case now.  And Democrates you really ought to know that we need a strong candidate to ensure that the Republicans DO NOT even stand a chance to win another term in the Oval Office.  That candidate in my mind and several others minds and looks like 48% of the Democrates in the National Poll minds as well, is Hillary Rodham Clinton.  This is coming from a man that was a registered Independent for well over 20 years.  I can't take another 4 years under a Republican President and a 3rd party candidate simply cannot win in America at the present time.  

HRC is the candidate we need, period!

Hillary Clinton 2008 - Give 'em Hill!!!!!    
I like both Hillary and Obama. However, I think Obama is more genuine and sincere than Hillary. He is nobody's puppet. Hillary,I fear, is too much in the pocket book of  some special interests and there is absolutely no way she can make any profound  decision with that  kind of backround.
let's see-bizarre defense of lobbyists: she says that real people like social workers and nurses nmeed to have people represent them--how bizarre!!

Also, I love the constant refrain that somehow barack is in some primary states. being tied (or behind) in NH and IOWA is hardly a surge , especially as  compared with Hillary who has come from double digits down in Iowa.
The logic of Obama supportters reminds me a little of Hitler spending his time studyimg plans for his grand cities in his bunker as the Russians close in.
let's see-bizarre defense of lobbyists: she says that real people like social workers and nurses nmeed to have people represent them--how bizarre!!

Also, I love the constant refrain that somehow barack is in some primary states. being tied (or behind) in NH and IOWA is hardly a surge , especially as  compared with Hillary who has come from double digits down in Iowa.
The logic of Obama supportters reminds me a little of Hitler spending his time studyimg plans for his grand cities in his bunker as the Russians close in.
Please, these are just polls. It will be the voters who will decide this in the end and mostly Democrats was polled here. I really hope and pray that America doesen't make the same mistake it has done in the last two presidential elections and nominate Hillary because she is almost as polarizing and controversial as Bush is. Things will not improve under a Hillary Presidency, the Republicans hate her too much and the country will remain polarized.
Matt Jones..Good post, glad to hear the war vote mantra is bypassed by a person who can think clearly.
Some people want that mantra to stick but it is just slime politics when what we need is to go forward and save our system of government.
We are in danger from the present admin..did you know that bush passed and executive order in July:
He has just about repeled the fifth amendment
H e has authorized the Tresury Dept. to seize any and all property belonging to individuals who"pose a signigicant risk" of committing violent acts that
undermine the "PEACE OR STABILITY" of IRAQ. THE ACTION DOES NOT REQUIE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.
This goverment terrifies me, I am more afraid of them then any of the made up terror theats they lie about.
I hear in that a grave threat to war protester.
Now we can all be truly scared.
Matt Jones..Good post, glad to hear the war vote mantra is bypassed by a person who can think clearly.
Some people want that mantra to stick but it is just slime politics when what we need is to go forward and save our system of government.
We are in danger from the present admin..did you know that bush passed and executive order in July:
He has just about repeled the fifth amendment
H e has authorized the Tresury Dept. to seize any and all property belonging to individuals who"pose a signigicant risk" of committing violent acts that
undermine the "PEACE OR STABILITY" of IRAQ. THE ACTION DOES NOT REQUIE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.
This goverment terrifies me, I am more afraid of them then any of the made up terror theats they lie about.
I hear in that a grave threat to war protester.
Now we can all be truly scared.
Matt Jones..Good post, glad to hear the war vote mantra is bypassed by a person who can think clearly.
Some people want that mantra to stick but it is just slime politics when what we need is to go forward and save our system of government.
We are in danger from the present admin..did you know that bush passed and executive order in July:
He has just about repeled the fifth amendment
H e has authorized the Tresury Dept. to seize any and all property belonging to individuals who"pose a signigicant risk" of committing violent acts that
undermine the "PEACE OR STABILITY" of IRAQ. THE ACTION DOES NOT REQUIE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.
This goverment terrifies me, I am more afraid of them then any of the made up terror theats they lie about.
I hear in that a grave threat to war protester.
Now we can all be truly scared.


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