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The Obama camp has its own memo...

Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:42 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
Less than an hour after the Clinton campaign issued its memo, the Obama camp released its own, which argued that the national polls don't matter. From campaign manager David Plouffe: "[A]s the Washington insiders focus on irrelevant and wildly inconsistent national polls, there are strong signs in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina of the growing power and potential of [Obama's] candidacy."

More: "This is a sequential process that begins in Iowa and carries through the calendar. If national polls were affecting our ability to grow the campaign, perhaps we would pay them some attention. But they have not, so we don’t."

There's also this zinger: "The month of July has fleshed out the true dynamic of this race – change versus more of the same. We saw this in the dispute with Senator Clinton over diplomacy with Barack arguing for turning the page on the policies of Bush-Cheney and in the YearlyKos Debate when Barack disagreed with Senator Clinton about the role of Washington lobbyists in blocking real progress. Barack believes we need a fundamental transformation of our politics, which is why as President he will rein in the power and influence of lobbyists. He doesn’t agree that they represent 'real people.'"

*** UPDATE *** By popular demand, here is the entire memo. Be warned -- it is LONG...

TO:  Friends and Supporters
FROM: David Plouffe
DATE: August 6, 2007

RE: Campaign Update

Much has happened in the month since our last report to you on the status of Barack Obama’s Presidential Campaign – and in that month, we continued to strengthen the campaign and Barack continues to demonstrate he is the only candidate with the strength, character and ideas to fundamentally change our broken politics and make the progress at home and abroad that America so desperately needs.

Our plan has always called for a focus on the early caucus and primary states, where this race will be shaped.

And now, as the Washington insiders focus on irrelevant and wildly inconsistent national polls, there are strong signs in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina of the growing power and potential of this candidacy.

I will not address fundraising in detail in this memo, because there has been such voluminous coverage about the success you have all helped us achieve in this area.

Just a couple points to underscore, though. Our 258,000 + donors not only provide us the most muscular fundraising base in the field, it also is the bedrock of an unprecedented grassroots movement that will show its’ strength in additional ways on the ground in January and February. And it a manifestation of the enthusiasm gap that Barack Obama enjoys in this race

Our financial success has also fundamentally altered the strategic calculus of the race. No longer can the quasi-incumbent candidate survive a stumble or two early and rely on an institutional financial and organizational advantage to recover. Obama has the financial and organizational assets to go toe to toe for the long haul with the largest political machine in the history of the modern Democratic Party – something that no pundit could have predicted six months ago.

We will have the strongest organization and deepest financial base in the Democratic field.  If we have more momentum than other leading candidates heading into February 5th, it will  allow us to marry the success in the early states with our organizational superiority, a potent combination in what will be a quasi-national primary by that point.

Remember, each contest affects the next. Our strategy has always been to focus like a laser on the early states to create the momentum crucial to later contests. What has changed is our ability to also compete in February 5th states more vigorously than any other candidate, allowing us to win the nomination under various nomination scenarios.

The month of July has fleshed out the true dynamic of this race – change versus more of the same. We saw this in the dispute with Senator Clinton over diplomacy with Barack arguing for turning the page on the policies of Bush-Cheney and in the YearlyKos Debate when Barack disagreed with Senator Clinton about the role of Washington lobbyists in blocking real progress. Barack believes we need a fundamental transformation of our politics, which is why as President he will rein in the power and influence of lobbyists. He doesn’t agree that they represent “real people.”

It becomes clearer every day that the American people desperately want to turn the page. An ABC/Washington Postpoll out last Friday shows Barack tied  for the lead in Iowa and also found that 49 percent of Iowa Caucus goers were looking change and a new direction compared to 39 percent who wanted strength and experience.

Barack is the candidate best position to bring about that fundamental change. As Barack often says – it is not enough to change parties in Washington, we need to change politics in Washington.

I.      Debates

Barack was scored the decisive winner at the NAACP debate in Detroit on July 15th, and also added the support of dozens of African-American leaders from around the country.

Jonathan Cohn, The New Republic :‘Barack Obama Shines at the NAACP Convention’—“Unless you are Abraham Lincoln and you're dedicating a Civil War memorial, it is virtually impossible to say something meaningful in three minutes. You can get through five or maybe six hundred words, which is the equivalent of two or three paragraphs, at best. And if you're appearing at a public event, you'll have to spend some of your time profusely thanking your hosts and flattering the audience. That leaves even less time to make an impression.  And yet an impression is exactly what Barack Obama managed to make on Thursday, during his opening remarks at an NAACP candidates forum here.” LINK

MSNBC: Obama stood out today at the NAACP forum -- for the first time outshining Clinton at a debate/forum. He took a much tougher, more direct tone than he did at the Howard University debate last month. He was greeted by thunderous applause and shouts -- much more so than any other candidate. And he received the loudest cheers for his well crafted opening speech, in which he weaved the theme "We still have more work to do" throughout.Clinton and Edwards were fine and delivered adequate answers, but they just could not match Obama’s luster today. LINK

The voters also declared Barack a decisive winner at the CNN-YouTube debate last week, with focus groups of undecided voters in New Hampshire and South Carolina raving about his performance and the type of President he would be.

CNN’s Mary Snow on New Hampshire Focus Groups: “We're here with 24 democrats, independents, who thought that Senator Hillary Clinton would be the best performer here tonight, but the results that we just got in, this is a focus group, show that Barack Obama got the most favorable in terms of the best performance from the 24 people who are here tonight.” “Senator Barack Obama was showing some favorable responses to his answers. Some of the things that he got favorable responses were when he talked about fighting lobbyists, particularly on health care.”

Frank Luntz on South Carolina Focus Group Results: “He is off the charts.  I mean, this is as high as it can go. He’s explicit.  He has drawn the contrast.  He has hit a home run. What I would like to do is I want to play for you the sound of what theyhad to say about Barack Obama so you can really understand it's not that he is a good politician and not his experience.  It's as much his presentation and more importantly it's that he seems to represent people rather than politics.If you guys back there can roll the sound, this is why Obama will be shown as the winner of tonight's debate.” (FOX News)

The pundit reviews have been more all over the map, leading Washington Post reporter Chris Cilizza to make the following comment on MSNBC July 24th, “I worry because I watched the debate and I thought Senator Obama did well, I thought he did better than he had in previous debates, but I still thought senators Clinton and Edwards did better, and then as Chuck pointed out, we do have all these focus groups that said Obama did better.  There appears to be some sort of chasm between the public perception and what, folks, like myself, you know, in Washington think.  It worries me because I'm always worried as a journalist about missing the boat, you know, missing that Howard Dean rise or whatever it is, so I'm going to try and pay real close attention over the next couple days about what that's about.  You heard Barack Obama talk incisively last night that we need to putting the national interest above special interest. He talked about lobbyists; he talked about he being the only candidate that wasn’t accepting lobbyist or PAC money. That really resonates with people…And I think Obama probably scored points on that as the, sort of, outsider candidate.” [Link, starts 50 sec. into video]

We, of course, agree. There is something happening out in the country, but it’s hard to see from the Beltway.

There will be no shortage of debates in the coming months, allowing Barack ample opportunity to continue to demonstrate to the country the leadership and vision he will provide as President.

II.      Issues

Over a three day period in Iowa earlier in the week, Barack made the forceful case for changing our broken Washington politics by reducing the influence of Washington lobbyists and putting the priorities of workers and families front and center again.

Barack highlighted the nefarious role the energy, health, drug and agribusiness industries have had on policies that have harmed our country and what as President he will do to stop it. In addition to not accepting contributions from Washington lobbyists and Political Action Committees in his campaign, Barack has offered the most sweeping government reform plan in the field, including banning anyone who leaves the employ of an Obama administration from lobbying the executive branch for the duration of his term. An outline of the plan is available here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/corruption.

Early last week, Barack laid out a bold and comprehensive counter terrorism strategy that is winning rave reviews from experts for its scope, toughness and smarts. Barack, in an important difference with one of our opponents, feels that we are less safe than we were because of the ill-advised war in Iraq coupled with a lack of focus on hunting down those who have caused us harm and continue to plan to cause more harm to America.

The Obama plan to combat terrorism would change focus and put our sights squarely on Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists lurk and are gathering strength.

Highlights of the press coverage of the terrorism speech can be viewed here:

Associated Press: “Obama Vows to Hunt Down Terrorists”: The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid. "Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." LINK

Washington Post: “Obama Pledges Aggressive War on Islamic Extremists”: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama today pledged an aggressive war against Islamic extremists, calling for the deployment of at least 7,000 additional troops to Afghanistan to combat the growing Taliban influence and promising to order U.S. forces into Pakistan if necessary to seek out and kill known terrorists. "When I am president, we will wage a war that has to be won," Obama told an audience at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. He added, "I will not hesitate to use military force to take out terrorists who pose a direct threat to the United States." LINK

New York Times: “Obama Warns Pakistan on Terrorism”: Senator Barack Obama said today that the United States should shift its focus from the war in Iraq to a fight against terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He said that if the Pakistani government fails to eradicate terror operations inside its borders, the United States should withhold aid and should strike Al Qaeda targets there itself. “It’s time to turn the page on the diplomacy of tough talk and no action,” Mr. Obama said. “It’s time to turn the page on Washington’s conventional wisdom — that agreement must be reached before you meet, that talking to other countries is some kind of reward, and that presidents can only meet with people who will tell them what they want to hear.” LINK

Barack continues to offer bold ideas and challenge conventional orthodoxy on issues like education, energy and parental responsibility.

Clips summarizing some of these stands can be viewed here:

USA Today’s DeWayne Wickham: ‘Obama is the Democrats' common sense 'liberal'’—“When Barack Obama announced his strategy for combating some of the most intractable problems afflicting urban blacks, he invoked the name of Robert F. Kennedy, the New York senator who was assassinated during his 1968 campaign for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Kennedy, he said, looked at the poverty that wracked the Mississippi Delta and asked reporters, "How can a country like this allow it?" But as Obama, the Illinois senator who hopes to become the Democratic Party's standard bearer in the 2008 presidential election, reeled off what he believes needs to be done to better the lives of urban blacks, I thought of another Kennedy [John F. Kennedy].” LINK

Huffington Post’s Tom Edsall: Barack Obama's August 1 speech outlining an aggressive anti-terrorist policy is part of the Illinois Senator's larger campaign strategy, demonstrating his willingness to break from liberal orthodoxy -- defying teachers' unions, proponents of racially based affirmative action, and Democratic constituencies wary of the use of force. Obama is similarly seeking to establish his political independence from Democratic party interest groups, refuting stereotypes which might encumber his candidacy.Obama has had unprecedented success in the campaign so far. Despite Hillary Clinton's institutional and organizational advantage, Obama has moved from running 20-plus points behind Clinton at the start of the year to a current deficit of only 12 to 13 points, compared to John Edwards' 18 points lag behind Clinton today. If nothing else, Obama's speech Wednesday has shaped the entire Democratic presidential debate for at least one news cycle, prompting every major candidate, and some minor ones, to comment on it. Whether Obama succeeded in changing his polling numbers remains to be seen.

Change won’t come easily and certainly won’t come from those unwilling to challenge conventional wisdom. Barack continues to walk the walk and demonstrate he is resolute about turning the page and bringing about real change.

III.      Organization

We have made heavy investments in our early state organizations, internet program, low dollar fundraising base and a national field operation that will be deployed heavily in February 5 states. Your financial generosity has allowed us to build the best and deepest grassroots organization in history at this stage of a Presidential election, which will have a deep and powerful impact once voting and caucusing commences next January.

While this type of organization building is expensive, we are watching how we spend your donations, and are very pleased we have by far the lowest burn rate in the field.

‘08 Candidates/Burn Rates: Atlantic (Marc Ambinder’s Blog) “Obama's Cool Burn Rate”: The most interesting figure available to us today, as we pour over the 2nd quarter financial disbursements, is the average burn rate, which is calculated by adding the money spent plus debt, and dividing that by the amount of money raised for the primary elections. In Obama's case, that's $16M spent + 0.92M debt divided by $32M raised -- or 53%. Clinton burned through 73 cents out of every primary dollar she raised. That's a lot, but it's still an impressive figure. John Edwards spent 74 cents out of every dollar raised; Bill Richardson spent about 71 cents for every dollar raised. Joe Biden spent a whopping 104% of his receipts, and Chris Dodd spent nearly 133% of his primary money raised. LINK

A few numbers and facts that will illuminate the strides we are making:

We have made hundreds of thousands of personal voter contacts in Iowa and New Hampshire. And people are responding exceedingly well.

On July 4 in Iowa, the Obama campaign covered 67 parades and community events, signing up supporters and volunteers. In all but a few of these, we were the only campaign represented.
We are the only campaign with a consistent voter contact program in South Carolina.
Our volunteer operation in Nevada swamps the rest of the field.
This past weekend we held a terrific and well attended regional Camp Obama training in southern California, the first of many we will do in non-early states across the country to turn our enthusiasm into organization. We have held preliminary organizational meetings in NY, NJ, FL, MI OK, MO, MN, CA, AZ, CO and GA.

We will continue to grow and build everywhere that matters. Having enthusiasm allows us to do so. The enthusiasm gap remains alive and well in the Democratic contest.

We have also received some important endorsements in the last months. Over 400 Hispanic community and political leaders endorsed Barack’s candidacy after he appeared at the national la Raza convention. This is in addition to the dozens of local Latino elected officials who endorsed Barack after his appearance at the National Association of Latino Elected Officials. Both of these conferences occurred in Florida.

Earlier I mentioned the support we received from the African-American community as a result of Barack’s performance at the NAACP conference. The campaign has also received the support of state Urban League leaders from across the country after Barack spoke at the National Urban League conference in St. Louis last week. Our African-American support continues to strengthen and solidify nationally.

We also have had an active month, securing the support of key members of Congress as well as local elected leaders in the early states.

One particularly significant endorsement comes from Congressman Paul Hodes of New Hampshire. Not only is Congressman Hodes one of only two members of Congress from New Hampshire, giving his support extra weight, but his rationale for endorsing Barack captured why so many people are hopeful, and believe that Barack can lead American in a fundamentally different direction.

Concord Monitor ‘Hodes backs Obama in White House bid’ –“It was a well-coordinated announcement, with both politicians flying in from Washington, D.C., yesterday morning to greet several hundred supporters jammed into Eagle Square. Hodes told the crowd that Obama was the candidate most able to bring fresh ideas to the White House. "What he's shown is an ability to bring people together around the idea of change and a new direction," Hodes said. The two men described each other as newcomers to Washington - Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 - and said they shared a commitment to reform. Obama said voters who elected Democrats such as Hodes last year were voicing their frustration with "conventional thinking that stops us from moving forward."  LINK]

IV.      Polling

The national press continues to be obsessed about national primary polling, but as we outlined in the last memo, we fundamentally reject the importance of these national primary polls.  This is a sequential process that begins in Iowa and carries through the calendar. If national polls were affecting our ability to grow the campaign, perhaps we would pay them some attention. But they have not, so we don’t.

Even early state polls at this point are poor predictors. So even when there are positive polls for us – like one out late last week that shows us with a slight lead in Iowa, and tied in the New Hampshire primary and another that had us ahead again in the South Carolina primary - we do not get overheated.

This race is covered often times as if the election is occurring tomorrow. It is, of course not. In fact we have many months, and this campaign several lifetimes, until voters begin to have their say. We are confident about where we are today; confident in the pacing and progress we are making and confident in our ability to ultimately win the nomination and the general election.

One last point on polls. There is beginning to be a clear pattern that in general election horse race tests, Barack, would be the strongest general election candidate against the likely Republican nominees. The Battleground Poll, a bi-partisan polling effort, found the following results last week that underscore Barack’s appeal to independents and moderate Republicans.

Talking Points Memo: “Poll: Obama Stronger Nominee Than Hillary”: The new Battleground poll — a joint project of George Washington University, Democratic polling firm Lake Research, and GOP polling firm the Tarrance Group — would indicate that Barack Obama is a much stronger general election candidate than Hillary Clinton. While a generic Democrat has an 11-point lead over a generic Republican, Hillary loses to Rudy Giuliani and only leads Fred Thompson by two points. Obama, meanwhile, beats Rudy by a nine-point margin, and Fred Thompson by an even wider edge: STORY  - POLL DATA

Thanks for all you are doing to help elect Barack Obama the next President of the United States. We will continue to share updates with you on where we see the race and look forward to your comments.

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love this guy! he said a great line a couple days ago that pretty much sums up my feelings (along with millions of others): i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. let's start fresh. it's that simple.
What memo is that you ask? hillaryclinton.com  
Iraq is Hillary's war as much as Georges. She voted for it and has done nothing to stop it. I'd vote for a Republican before I'd vote for her, and I hate those bigots.
Blaming Lobbyist because these people are weak and corrupt is silly. That goes for both sides. Everyone who has a bridge, hwy, or a building named after them paid for by US should leave now. That should pretty much clean house.
You can take Barack out of the south-side, but you can't take the south-side out of Barack!  The candidates are now getting in campaign mode and challenging HRC's so-called front-runner status, a myth created by her media friends.  
A majority of political analysts/scientists agree that polling data at this point is flawed and unreliable.  Yet, HRC's campaign insists on pushing this garbage in front of the American people...since they've got nothing else to say.  
If all Hillary's team can come up with is "we're ahead", then she is in trouble.  Edwards and Obama are talking about differences that will likely resonate.  HRC's goal has been to avoid contact and to keep as little light between her stances and the others'.  Wolfson et al better start talking about policy and not about polls or they will not have polls to talk about.
Please post the whole Obama memo like you did the Clinton memo.
Mr. Plouffe:

The national polls ARE NOT "wildly inconsistent."

But you knew that already.  :)
Hillary wants us out if Iraq and Obama wants to attack Pakistan.  Hmmmm, don't see where the word "change" would fit in the democratic platofrm
Well good move for Obama camp to strike back...in politics the best defense is attack....I agree with team Obama national poll have no meaning, in primary party election, state poll matters a lot for winning primaries... Clintons see it as weakness hence they fail to mention it in their own Memo...
Can we see the whole thing, please?
I have seen this mischaracterization of Obama's position on Pakistan so often I truly weep for the right wing.  Obama does not want to attack Pakistan.  Obama wants to attack TERRORISTS in Pakistan.  I can't help but wonder why people like Jerry are against this...
John Doe - Actually Obama sounds like he wants the Pakistanis to grab bin Laden, but if they aren't willing, we'll go from there.

As for why the Republicans won't, I think the Republicans must want to keep bin Laden around for some reason. Its a mystery.
Why does jerry hate America?
Way to go Obama. Like i have said several times, this race is a marathon and only the smart will survive. National Poll doesn't matter, it is a false indicator of the state of the election. Smart strategy would win this election.

This is just the begining of a presidential race. I am expecting to see what HRC will do when press start demanding meet on her bone.

For all Obama hater " you ain't see nothing yet". Go Barack !!!!!
Unless we rid Washington of the lobbyist blight our system is truely doomed...In retrospect, I wonder how many lobbyists our founding fathers had paying their way into office in search of political favoritism???.....

For Mrs. Clinton to propose that their is no influence gained through the infusion of hundreds of thousands of lobbyists dollars into her campaign coffers is ridiculous...Although, she is correct in one regard, lobbyists do represent "real people", they are the "Real Big Money People", the same ones that are raping the tax payers wallets and distorting legislation and the constitutional interpretation(s) within the areas of Health Insurance, pharmaceutical, petroleum, 2nd amendment, etc.,etc., to suit the needs of their agenda and bottom lines.....period!

Although, personally I sense a change that the American public is starting to grow weary of the "business as usual" approach by our legislators(both Democrat and Republican), employing the "Mushroom Theory" of keeping the public in the dark and feed them BS...while they bastardize every piece of legislation coming before them to suit their personal needs, or that of the Lobbyists, while leaving their constituency holding the bag.....But change is in the air, I think that the rejection of the "Immigration Bill" was the watershed where the American public finally said we've had enough an yanked the chains of their respective politicians, who were trying to stuff a garbage bill down their throats....

The lobby problem is not a phenomenom that is synonamous with one party or the other, it's become sypmtomatic of our federal and state politics as a whole. Unfortunately, in order to effect any real change, we first have to endure the dark days of the current administration. Bush is, and has been, a disgrace.  He, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice have done more to undermine this country than all of their collective predecessors put together...so, let's learn from the bitter lessons they have taught us.

To that end, given her recent comments, I know that Mrs. Clinton is not offering any spectre of change and is falling lock-step into the habits embraced by her husband (in and out of office, he has been one of the worst offenders of being a lobbyist aligned entity)....they are both "old school" when this nation needs CHANGE, REAL CHANGE, not political pandeing and promises, we need change from the old establishment ways and we need it now!!! In the past few weeks, I'm beginning to think you spell that change o.b.a.m.a....  He's fresh,new, he says some things that might be polictically incorrest, but, those things that need to be said....He holds his position and his head high...and I sense an integrity and honesty in him, that I haven't seen in a long while and I've been watching and listening to politician alot longer than the vast majority  that might contribute their thoughts here....

More than ever before, we as a nation have to think long and hard, searching our souls, at who we wish to lead this country. Our image, our pride, our integrity, in the eyes of the world, has been sullied and damaged by the current administration.....We need a charismatic, inspirational leader that will take this country back to it's rightful position as a role model for rest if the world and I only see one candidate that has the capability, capacity and compassion to make us great again......I ask you all, to please listen intently to what this young man has to say, he might just be what we're all looking for...
The GOP was so gung ho about attacking imaginary targets in Iraq..seems hypocritical.
Dear Mr. Plouffe
Barack's a soufflé
He daily deflates
Debate by debate
If you don't believe me
Check out Ras, and RCP

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_democratic_presidential_primary

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
They keep talking about Senator Clinton having more experience. I have a problem with her siding with President Bush when she had to make a decision on this war. The evidence was there that Saddam Hussein did not have WMD's. Senator Obama saw that, why didn't she? Very bad judgment on her part.

This is a major issue with me.  
Not all lobbyists represent big business.  Some very important causes are championed by lobbyists.  Are there too many of them?  Sure there are.  But let's not call all lobbyists evil representatives of big business and the ultra rich.  That's as inaccurate as calling all attorneys ambulance chasers.
Paul Miller - That is a good point and thanks for clarifying.  I am of the opinion that Musharif will never act against Al Queada.  I am on the fence as to whether or not that is because his constituency would be against it or because he simply doesn't want to attack terrorists.  As an American, I find both reasons inconsequential.  If a terrorist was living in the US that had engineered an attack that killed 3,000+ Pakistanis you can bet your bottom dollar that we would help bring them to justice, even if it upset a large section of the American populace.
QUESTION: Who was leading the national polls in this stage of the 2004 primary race?

ANSWER: Joe Lieberman

Granted Hillary's lead is more substantial and it's not like she'll disappear. Unlike what her campaign says this nomination is far from over.

Her campaign is in panic mode. She inspires NOBODY.
Ok, I'll take a looksie at that web site..hillaryclinton.com
Van reuter, you didn't read even the executive summary of the memo, you just plopped up your drive-by spam.  Obama's tied or ahead in IA, NH, and SC, not to mention significantly outperforming Hillary in the head-to-heads.  Yeah, total deflation there.
Maureen, it's probably because Hillary didn't read the national intelligence estimate before voting to go to war - or so I've heard.  It was partly because none of her aides had security clearance to read it for her, and partly because war was an overwhelmingly popular position back when Barack took his stand against it.  Nothing like running a country entirely via the polls, just like her husband did!
i loved barack when he first came out, not anymore... he better not talk about not taking money from big business, because if you work for united airlines you know that is what he did... when we were going thru bankruptcy, he was set to sign on to a bill to save our pensions, at the last minute he voted against saving our pensions, and then said he couldnt vote against his constituent united airlines from his state illinois... he is a liar... he is also spineless and gutless... he has screwed us on alot of other worker friendly issues. i dont care who wins, but not this poser.
I don't think it really matters whether Obama represents change and vision, if he can't get things done.  the Senate and the House do not have to do what he wants.  The experience gained by having been around for a while - reaches further than knowledge.  This is how relationships are forged.  

Okay, so Mrs. Clinton is not news and upfront - but she knows how the game is played.  She knows how to deal with the big boys and bad special interests and beat them at their own game.  

I think it is more important to accomplish something -what ever it takes - than dream about it.

Finally, I think Obama is starting to sound desperate.  He is trying to find a way to sprint ahead.  He doesn't know enough to say things the right way.  He's not even the Democratic candidate and already he's starting an international incident.  We need to lower our profile in the world and fix our domestic problems.    
I absolutely agree with Will. "If you have to remind people that you're the leader, then you're not"- John C. Maxwell.

If Hillary's campaign was doing well, they would not need to come up with that memo.

The most recent Iowa and SC polls show Obama ahead and tied with Hillary in NH. National polls are expressions of name recogniton. Even my 12 year old knows that.
Thanks for posting the whole memo.  

Can you make the LINKs live?

I finally agree with Chris Cilliza: "There appears to be some sort of chasm between the public perception and what, folks, like myself, you know, in Washington think."
Carrie: Did they finally let you out of the Hillary-bunker ??
Was it kind of like Melina in 'Total Recall' ?

'Not all lobbyists represent big business.'
No, but the ones with the big bucks represent Big Corporations.
Unfortunately, under Bill Clinton, you had to 'Pay to Play'. Only big campaign contributors got a seat at the table when legislation was being crafter.
When Hillary was crafting her 'Health Care Initiative', only the special interests were represented. A strategy designed to reap more campaign contributions.  

Hillary is 'Republican lite'
And Neroism is in the air
>Okay, so Mrs. Clinton is not news and upfront - but she knows how the game is played.  She knows how to deal with the big boys and bad special interests and beat them at their own game.   >

Uh - y'mean like when she beat out the insurance industry in the big Health Care scrum back in '93? Yeah, she totally schooled 'em. Please.

She married well, for someone who was interested in getting into politics. Based on her public record as a Senator, I wouldn't be any more inclined to vote for her than I would for any other former first lady.
I think we Democrats need to really remember what the number 2008 means...WE HAVE TO WIN in '08. To nominate a man with less experience than Bush had and has about as much foreign policy experience as he has disaster written all over it. We need to nominate the best man for the job, the candidate with experience and who is strong enough and smart enough to stand up against Guliani or Thompson...And that man is not Barrack Obama, it is with out question Hillary Clinton.
B.O. you stink !
"Change versus more of the same."  I believe that was a popular saying in 1991 for Bill Clinton's campaign.  

Go get 'em Obama.
Hillary Clinton is a stuborn “status quo” candidate who doesn’t want to change anything despite a programs ineffectiveness, and as long as it benifits her personal political ambition of becoming the president.
Obama on the other hand stands for “real change” and he is not afraid to take actions that might be detrimental to his political ambitions, but are the right choices in the best interests of the american people.
Case in point: HRC voted against a bill that would stop funding the disfunctional TV Marti, where as Obama voted for stoping funding.
TV Marti is a failed US government sponsered program that beams TV programs into Cuba. The Cuban government jams these signals and so no one in Cuba gets this TV signal right from the day of its inception. The US has already squndered $200 million of our hard earned tax payer money on this stupid program that doesn’t work. HRC voted to continue to squander our hard earned money just so that she might gain some cuban votes in Florida.

if you look at the majority of national polls (Rassmussen, Gallup, WSJ, Newsweek) you see an upswing for HRC of about 10pt over the last several weeks

a single poll shows Obama strength in the primary states and if you look at pollster.com you see they question it's accuracy (not because it helps HRC but because it is so different to other - local - polls in Iowa showing Edwards in the lead)

so, honestly, no matter what you think of your candidate (whomever she or he is), you should accept that, nationally, HRC is doing better


I went to Hillaryclinton.com

Nothing special about a person who is nothing special to begin with.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa / fill me in on who the "good" lobbyist are,I must have missed those organzations somewhere along the line
This entire lobbyist argument is foolish for Obama and Edwards to get involved in. Edwards has taken MILLIONS from the trial lawyers over the years.  Just because they may not each be federal lobbyists doesn't mean their issues are not his issues.  Obama and Edwards have taken PAC contributions for their senate races.  PACs that are controlled by federal lobbyists.  Also, federal lobbyists can only give the same amount of money as each citizen.. $2300 for primary and the same for the general.  To somehow suggest that $2300 buys that kind of influence is silly.  
Cindy, care to explain what you mean by Obama saying things in the wrong way? Or is that just something you read on the Clinton website.

Let's take the nuclear statement. I think Obama may be the only one (in either party) who understands U.S. nuclear policy. Clinton by her statement of criticism demonstrated an ignorance of it. Care to discuss further?
Hillary is the president we need. She is the only one that is ready now and will be ready in 2008!

Find out more at hillaryclinton.com
Obama is the candidate best position to bring about fundamental change.Barack Obama continues to demonstrate to the country the vision and leadership he will provide as president of the free world.
Well Obama has been sold out by the Clinton bunch!  He is being dumped by Hillary who is selling out the Party and all of its young supporters as she prepares to try and do her 8 years of a copy of the "Bush Presidency".  I hope Obama will run as an INDEPENDENT.  It's the only way out now!
Barack is starting to sound like George W. Bush on Iraq.  Unable to admit mistakes and claiming victory when he is 22 points behind.  GET REAL OBAMA.  Smell the coffee. You're wasting $Millions that would be better spent in Hillary's Hands.  She's simply smarter and has more Command Presence.  GET OUT Before She Really embarasses you.
Barack is starting to sound like George W. Bush on Iraq.  Unable to admit mistakes and claiming victory when he is 22 points behind.  GET REAL OBAMA.  Smell the coffee. You're wasting $Millions that would be better spent in Hillary's Hands.  She's simply smarter and has more Command Presence.  GET OUT Before She Really embarasses you.
Cindy Penny, my counter:

"I don't think it really matters whether Obama represents change and vision, if he can't get things done.  the Senate and the House do not have to do what he wants."

The ability to shape and lead public opinion seems to me to have emerged as the primary power of the president to get things done.

" The experience gained by having been around for a while - reaches further than knowledge.  This is how relationships are forged."

Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush for example didn't come in to the white house with extra-developed relationships with the Washington crowd as far as I know.  LBJ might be a good example of the importance of how relationships develop while in the white house, not before.  

By the way, would the public interest be better served with a President that has these pre-existing relationships?

"She knows how to deal with the big boys and bad special interests and beat them at their own game."

How does Hillary's record of this compare to Obama's?  And when Hillary beats them at their own game, is she winning more for the public benefit or winning more for her own ambitions?

"I think it is more important to accomplish something -what ever it takes - than dream about it."

What do you say to those who expect Obama to be able to accomplish such goals than Hillary?  Will her negativity ratings afford her the political capital to get her way?  Can she build coalitions between Republicans and Democrats to cooperate on objectives?  Is her ability to persuade better?

"I think Obama is starting to sound desperate.  He is trying to find a way to sprint ahead."

Would this perspective of Obama's campaign be different if you found that this is what they've been planning since the beginning, and that her national poll lead has long been expected?
Clinton is campaingning for those lobbyist and she doesn't say anything SPECIAL , same words, same song nothing . SHE IS 60 years old she is no motivated. Her husband didn't change America isnot her who will..............
Sierra, you are playing right into the repubs hands. So if hillary is the nominee you won't vote or perhaps vote for a repub? Sounds like the Nader fiasco. We talk ourselves right out of elections that way, then we get Bush. Not very smart. So youre a socialist, then vote for a dem.
Its simple people hillary was in the white house when
her husband wasi in power why dint she bring all the changes shes talking about and calling obama naive.open your eyes people while you still can she voted for the Iraq war as well and she goes on calling someone naive, between her and obama who is naive. Shes got to much pride as well saying that she cant speek to certain leaders. Do you know what this is going to resault to,us creating more and more enemies.Make change while you still can as simple as that.
I agree with Obama that lobbyist are the devil's own.  Having said that, though, I hope his nest memo is a plea to be Hilarity's running mate, because---though I support and like him---he's toast.  
Paul Miller; why do the Bushies seem to want Osama free?  Read Orwell's 1984 (sort of a blueprint for the Cheney/Bush administration anyway), and pay special attention to the role a man named Emmanuel Goldstein plays.
Yiannis, good factoid, Lieberman was the "unstoppable" front runner at this point in 2004.  But I still believe Hilarity had a lock on this thing from Day One---which is too bad, cause it's an instant win for whatever nitwit the REpublicans run.


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