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Romney links Craig with Bill Clinton

Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:48 PM by Mark Murray
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In his interview on CNBC's Kudlow & Company (which will air later this afternoon), Mitt Romney had some sharp words for Sen. Larry Craig, who had endorsed the former Massachusetts governor's presidential campaign and was his Idaho chairman. "Once again, we've found people in Washington have not lived up to the level of respect and dignity that we would expect for somebody that gets elected to a position of high influence. Very disappointing. He's no longer associated with my campaign, as you can imagine... I'm sorry to see that he has fallen short."

And Romney also included this jab at Bill Clinton as he continued to talk about Craig: "I think it reminds us of Mark Foley and Bill Clinton. I think it reminds us of the fact that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint, and they somehow think that if they vote the right way on issues of significance or they can speak a good game, that we'll just forgive and forget. And the truth of the matter is, the most important thing we expect from elected--an elected official is a level of dignity and character that we can point to for our kids and our grandkids, and say, `Hey, someday I hope you grow up and you're someone like that person.' And we've seen disappointment in the White House, we've seen it in the Senate, we've seen it in Congress. And frankly, it's disgusting."

***UPDATE*** Below is the conversation regarding Craig and Clinton....

LARRY KUDLOW, host: 
Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, presidential candidate on the Republican side, who is surging in the polls, actually.

Governor, welcome back to KUDLOW & COMPANY.

Governor MITT ROMNEY: Thanks, Larry, good to be with you.

KUDLOW: All right, thank you, sir. I'm obliged to begin with what has become a front-page story. Senator Larry Craig of Ohio was caught in a police sting operation in the men's room of the Minneapolis Airport making sexual advances to another man. He's pleaded guilty to a disorderly conduct at the moment. Mr. Craig's one of your Senate leaders. I believe he was your Idaho state chairman. What is your comment on the Craig problem, sir?

Gov. ROMNEY: Well, very disappointing. Once again, we've found people in Washington have not lived up to the level of respect and dignity that we would expect for somebody that gets elected to a position of high influence. Very disappointing. He's no longer associated with my campaign, as you can imagine. He resigned just today. And you know, he was one of those who was helping my effort, and I'm sorry to see that he has fallen short.

KUDLOW: One of your backers, radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, he's a great friend of mine, has called for Mr. Craig to resign from the Senate. Are you going to ask him to resign from the Senate? Will you make a public call on that?

Gov. ROMNEY: You know, I haven't made a call on that at this stage. You know, I haven't seen the allegations yet, I just heard that there was a guilty plea and he submitted a resignation as my liaison in the Senate. And you know, I'm very disappointed that he has--he's disappointed the American people.

KUDLOW: You know, there's a whole flood of stories on this, which I think to some extent may be a test of leadership in this primary. The Idaho Statesman has a devastating article about Craig, so does The Washington Post, so does Roll Call. Apparently, a couple years ago, a professional man close to the Republican Party reported having oral sex with Craig at Union Station in Washington in 2004. Apparently, there are allegations and charges going back to 1982, where Mr. Craig was forced to deny having sex with pages. Isn't this the sort of thing that reminds us all of the Mark Foley episode last fall, before the elections, that was devastating to the Republicans?

Gov. ROMNEY: Yeah, I think it reminds us of Mark Foley and Bill Clinton. I think it reminds us of the fact that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint, and they somehow think that if they vote the right way on issues of significance or they can speak a good game, that we'll just forgive and forget. And the truth of the matter is, the most important thing we expect from elected--an elected official is a level of dignity and character that we can point to for our kids and our grandkids, and say, `Hey, someday I hope you grow up and you're someone like that person.' And we've seen disappointment in the White House, we've seen it in the Senate, we've seen it in Congress. And frankly, it's disgusting.

KUDLOW: Governor, if there were a President Romney, and you heard this, and your staff briefed you on some of the past allegations and charges, and there seems to be something of a cover-up, a silence on this with regard to Craig, would you not call for him to resign from the Senate?

Gov. ROMNEY: If--you know, I don't know the circumstances right now of his setting, and so I really can't call--make that call without having reviewed it, Larry. I will review that, and we'll give you a call on that. I certainly felt that Bill Clinton shouldn't have stayed in office. But you know, with regards to this setting, why, we'll take a close look at it.

KUDLOW: Actually, on that Clinton point, you threw Clinton in with the Craig episode and the Mark Foley episode. Could you just expand a little bit on that for us, sir?

Gov. ROMNEY: I'm not sure I need to. I think we've all heard the story about Bill Clinton and the fact that he let us down in his personal conduct with a--with a White House intern. And that strikes me as another one of these extraordinary acts of falling short of what America would expect of elected officials, particularly one who should be held to a higher standard.

KUDLOW: Do you think the Monica Lewinksy, impeachment and so forth, she was indicted--he, Mr. Clinton, was indicted in the House, he was not convicted in the Senate, Governor, does that become an issue again in this presidential campaign?

Gov. ROMNEY: I don't think so. I think the experience of the--of mine in the political world is that the things that we've heard about in the past, we tend to forget and not bring back up. But obviously, the continued parade of sexual misconduct in Washington, DC, is something which is very disturbing to America's families. And when you're trying to raise children, and you have stories like the ones we've seen over the last several years coming out of
Washington, that's very troubling. And I expect that people should be held to a higher standard, and that is something I'd expect to see in this particular case as well as in other cases that have proceeded it.

KUDLOW: You know, a friend of mine was on the phone this morning. A friend of mine was saying to me, you know, if you don't do these things, then you don't get into any trouble. Why do you think it is that we still get these kinds of news items coming out of Washington, DC? Elected officials, instead of just not doing them, they are insisting on doing them. What does it say about our culture? What does it say about the morality of public figures?

Gov. ROMNEY: Well, it does say, in my view, that some people in the public sphere expect that once they've been elected to something, they're prominent, that they're--that they're above the law, that they won't get caught, that people will give them a break, that they--that they somehow can live a different morality. And the truth of the matter is, if there's a different morality they should live, it should be a high--a higher level of morality. And if they've been involved in any discretion in their life, they should cease that discretion by the time they become elected, and should try and set an example in the way they live, which is consistent with the things they say. And you know, that's hard for everyone. But certainly, expecting people to live a life consistent with the dignity of the office to which they're elected is something which the American people should be able to count on.

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This man voted for the Marriage Amendment yet he's a gay man himself, its getting to the point that saying your a Republican is like saying that your words don't match your actions.
debrar your full of it... at the end of the day its just another republican ploy for americans to forget about the important things like the environment, this republican war, and energy cunsumption. and as for romney your a sleaze, how dare you mention clinton, when the closet pedophiles and closet gays apparently are on YOUR party?
To all you bleeding heart liberals who have forgotten Bill Clinton waving his finger at us, the American people, and lying through his teeth.  Such a short-term selective memory.  It makes me sick when people defend an embarrasment in Washington like Clinton.
Oh yes, thanks Teresa, how could I forget Rudi, or Il Duce as he was known at City Hall.  Trying to get the court to throw your wife out of Gracie Mansion so you could move your girlfriend permanently into the mansion (instead of having to make her leave every morning) tops them all.  
Ease up on Mitt. He isn't the one soliciting men in a public restroom or advancing adulterous behavior in the oval office. And he isn't suggesting pedophiles and consensual hetorosexual acts are apples for apples. If you take off you liberal-cynical glasses, Romney is clearly suggesting that Washington politicians need to maintain sexually responsible respect for the office they hold; sexual misconduct facilitated by political office violates trust the American people place in elected officials to dignify their position. Bill Clinton, Mark Foley, and Larry Craig are all individuals who pushed sexual behavior through their public position to the discontent of the American public. Romney lumping them together seems reasonable.

And where have all the liberals gone who support Slick Willy "Bill" Clinton and the gay agenda, but seem yet unwilling to defend Larry Craig's sexual direction? Who are the hypocrites? One minute it is moral relativism, the next it is the noose.
No NO NO Kenn.... Clinton was the President accused of RAPE. Too bad women's rights weren't in style then, and those poor women got hung out to dry.
TO PAT:  Friend?  I would say so.  Craig was Romney's campaign liason in the Senate.
You liberals think there is something wrong with our leaders being ethical and moral.  You don't want to start naming names because you will run out of names before I will.  Example, Ted Kennedy.  You know the story.  A drunk, a women,a car crash, a death.  There are many more to list.  Leaders should have values.
Debrar:  What does God have to do with a Senator soliciting sex in a bathroom? You need to be careful what you say.  Your remarks can come back and bite you in the butt.
The difference is pretty clear. First Bill Clinton's tryst did not occur in a public restroom.  Second, Bill Clinton di not spend the majority of his political career creating laws that would make alduters second class citizens.  It is incredible the hypocrisy of the republican party.  Do and say what you need to get elected even if it means trampling on the rights of the most vulnerable citizens.  Instead of being a man a living his life as an openly gay man.  He has chosen to hide behind lies to advance a politcal career at the detriment of Millions of gay men and women!  SHAME!!!
The difference is that Craig and Foley made a political living demonizing the gay community, and showed themselves to be hypocrites with their personal homosexual behavior.

And Mitt, you can't suggest that things in the past should be forgotten and then bring up Bill Clinton.  
Once again, those on the left completely miss the point of what Romney was saying. And no, I don't like him either.  He wasn't saying what Clinton did was as bad as what Foley, or Craig, or Vitter were doing.
What all of these have in common is a complete lack of judgement. Whether you are soliciting sex from a prostitute, or cheating on your wife with an intern; its simply not acceptable behavior from an elected public official.
What bothers me most of all is the fact that there is no shortage of people from the right condemning the actions of those wrongdoers from the right, and if you look at today's polls, 74% of those on the right want this guy to resign immediately; but I have yet to hear anyone on the left condemn the actions of Bill Clinton, "Cold Cash Jefferson", Barney Frank (gay prostitution ring run from his residence)or anyone else on the left that has ever been in trouble. All you guys do is make excuses for these actions. But, as soon as anyone on the right gets in any type of trouble, or is accused of anything, you are completely up in arms demanding they resign.  Complete hypocrites.
The difference between the left and right on these situations: The left will defend at all costs and make excuses.  Those on the right will call a spade a spade.  We don't want these losers on our side either. Its high time those on the left demand the same from those they elect.
what's the BIG deal, do not care what party it is/was Clinton got away with lying & having illicit sex from Arkansas to the not-so-White-House with police of various departments pimping for him & lying about it from the little guy up to & including Congress & White Water mysterious deaths & $$$$$$ losses; Ted Kennedy got away with drunk driving/vehicular homicide/leaving scene of accident & lying to all & God as well; Conduit was blessed w/ 9/11 ever hear anymore about his aide's dissapearance?; Michael Jackson & kids, OJ's   wife's murder; so the Senator wants a guy   hell HE admitted to it,  hell if you have $$$$ or fame or politics    YOU HAVE GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD,  & to think I gave over 26 years of my life to defend this country so SOB's like them can do whatever, & Border Patrol Agents go to jail for doing their jobs     BS
I wish people (posters here specifcally) would stop referring to Larry Craig as a 'pedophile'. The arresting officer was an adult. Craig was alledegly maiong advances to an adult. This wasn't a Dateline NBC sting, this was someone who couldn't keep it in his pants in a cruisy area who should have known better. Why does 'gay' always equal 'pedophile'?
This is yet another early indicator of how Romney is quick to throw anybody to the wolves in order to protect or promote himself.  He could have left judgement on this to be in the domain of law enforcement and the Congress.

Beware of calling him your friend or you President.
Romney is right on target.  Washington politicians engaging in immoral lifestyles.  Well, at least Craig had the decency, ahem, to keep his dirty acts in the toilet.  Clinton seemed to prefer desecrating the highest office in the land.  

I wonder why Kudlow brought up Mark Foley?  What does Foley have to do with this?  Kudus to Romney for reminding him about Clinton -- since naming sinners was initiated by Kudlow.  (Any guesses on which party Kudlow votes for?)
I love to see the Clinton apologists talk about Bubba and his "consensual" sex with Monica Lewinsky..what was she, 18 yrs. old? .. and an intern??? Good work Billy... talk about a couple of fat disgusting pigs.  But hey, when you think about it, getting some outside nookie was necessary considering what was waiting for him in the marital bed. Not sure how all that justifies his rep as a serial rapist but that's another story for another day...  But I digress...It is unbelievable to read the comments from those lo' so many mental cases criticizing Romney for registering his disgust over a pervert hanging out in bathrooms looking to satisfy his homosexual instincts.  Let's face it... normal people just don't do that despite what the Clinton apologists like to spin.. dig up dirt on Romney?? Go ahead.  No one has touched him yet and you can believe the Boston Globe and it's handler, the NYT has tried its best over the years..The criticism from the Globe has been reduced to reporting that he says things like "gosh" and "darn" and his wife doesn't work outside the home and his kids are bright and normal...and we all know that's not cool.  They and other "liberal" bigots will chew along the edges about his Mormonism but like the phonies they are, will not come right out and say what they think about another man's religion. The bigots and sexual deviates and Liberal apologists hate Mitt Romney and are desparately afraid of him getting the GOP nomination...
For all of you who are associating Mr. Craig with Mormons don't. He is a Christian (Methodist) not a Mormon. For once as a Mormon it is nice that none of you consider us Mormons, Christians.

Erik
Roger, this isn't about Bill Clinton - this is about Larry Craig. You need to pick up the pace here... you're just a tad behind the rest of us.

Now... do the actions of Larry Craig 'make you sick'? If so, then why are you talking about Bill Clinton instead of Larry Craig?
I decided to ignore ALL of your other posts that seem to be OBSESSED with ME and my statements, and you indeed will go back to the garbage-heap of nasty, small-minded losers, where you and your pathetic cries for attention belong; But this one screamed out for exposure;

Just to prove what a liar, hypocrite, and frankly, mean-spirited PARIAH you are MKMO;


vanreuter, NY NY states /  "This is why I, and others here have stated that anyone who says that if their candidate is NOT the nominee, they won't vote for the winner in the general election." what they have been saying van is "they won't vote for hillary if she is nominated" no other dem candidate has had that statement made about them so quit twisting it around to make it look otherwise
MK,MO (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:58 PM)

Here are the posts, from yesterday, from a thread you were on and had to have read, to PROVE to everyone that you don't deserve any consideration from decent, reasonable people;



Are all these Hillary supporters who hate and won't vote for the other Democrats really Democrats or is this a Republican dirty trick. Ditto for the rabid anti-Hillary people.
nuanced (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 5:23 PM)

Van, I had Tom Carrington and others in mind, not you. I know that real democrats will support the nominee whoever she is. I was referring to those who stated they would not vote for the other democratic candidates.
nuanced (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 6:43 PM)

van at least it was an honest statement, not pompous condescending blather or prostituted polls numbers, you should try making an honest statement one time, it would be a cleansing experience for you, by the way vanster explain to all us commoner's why hillary is a better candidate than say, john edwards? we await your answer on bent knee o conceited one
MK,MO (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 7:59 PM)

You even REPLIED on the thread.How sad.

I won't dignify any of your future sad and angry cries for attention , after this exposure, as what you are and what you try to do here is more than evident to those who are actually worth my time.

Van
Let's get this strait...Clinton first said he did not
have sex with that woman...but after he finally got caught by the DNA evidence he admitted on national TV
that he was wrong and tried to wiggle out of it by
his depends on the meaning of "is" is, all after lying to a Federal Judge and being found guilty. It was not a fair fight and consenual.  The President of the United States is one of the most powerful men in the world. Do you think for one minute that if the President ask a very young White House intern (not much older than his daughter)for sex that she would refuse, notwithstanding Paula Jones did (but he was on a state Governor then). It was clear that Clinton what he wanted on several occasions and it didn't matter to him that this act disgraced the Oval Office and the Office of the President. Any businessman doing this would have been fired.
would have bee
Debrar, you like Senator Craig and Mitt Romney, are a hypocrite! In the same paragraph you say "we are not holier than thou"  then spout off about how "many of us believe in morals, families, ethics, manners, integrity, and GOD." as if many of the rest of us do not have or believe in these things? Sounds pretty holier-than-thou to me.  None of us are condemning the good Senator for being gay.  We are condemning him for being exraordinarily anti-gay in his voting record, while availing himself of a closeted gay lifestyle.  Hypocrisy, and more hypocrisy.  Listen up, righties.  We all love our families. We all have family values.  No matter the orientation, color of skin, religious view, whatever.  You are the people who claim to be so holy, while hiding your dirt in the closet.  Here's wishing you reap in '08 what you have sown with your hypocrisy. Cheers!
Van...you seem to make the leap that with republican we would get 6-10 more years of scandal.

Why are you so sure we wouldn't get it with Clinton in the White House...we did have 6 years of scandal.  your arguement doesn't make sense.  


I'm more inclined to believe with the Clinton's in the White House it would be more of the same.

I don't hate her but this scandal does make me stop and wonder if I want to go through this again

Still deciding...
Debar R good for you but you are not in public office spewing off about family values and virtues like many in the GOP do and in the end, their skeltons start coming out one by one. Mitt Romeny sat on the Board of Directors for the Marriott Corporation with an opportunity to end the millions of dollars Marriott makes a year selling porn to their hotel guest. So he weighed in at "Do I fight for my values or allow the cash to keep coming in"? In the end, porn won out and now he stands before american claming to be a fighter of family values EVERYWHERE .. he may just be that so long as money is not involved ...
Mitt's just another empty suit
I personally have had enough of scandals...Republican or Democrat

I'm a democrat but I don't want a year of this crap and listening to Bill Clintons escapades all over again
I don't know why all the people are so upset by this discussion.  Mitt didn't say just Democrats were the problem, but across the board elected officials are not living lives we would hold out as examples.  Does anyone dispute that what Bill did was wrong? Not so much the adultery or the fact Monica was an intern, but the lying under oath.  Please.  It was wrong, we should all admit that.  Romney is consistent across the table here.  Further, I agree that he opens up his own personal life to critics, but it's not like it's not going to happen anyway.  No other candidate is getting the criticism Romney is already in their personal life (i.e., his religion).  He's a big boy and can take it, just as Bill Clinton fans should.  I guess honesty, as was stated by Romney, hurts.  
M. Boley: The reason that "Roger" keeps bringing up Clinton is because the Republicans lost that fight. They impeached him and the American Public re-elected him. Roger cannot justify this illegal act. Clinton did not violate any laws when he Liar Lewinsky performed oral sex on him.

The fact of the matter here, is Sen. Larry Craig (R) was out looking for a quickie with another guy and he was doing it in a public bathroom. I guess what is good for George Michael is good enough mr Sen. Larry Craig - Republican. (Just in case you didn't catch that part, he is a REPUBLICAN, just line Mark Foley, (R) and Mark Haggard (R), Newt Newt Gingrich (R).
Bryan: It took place in a public anteroom instead. This house actually belongs to the people. We will recall that nobodies got clean hands here. Not Clinton,nor Foley [nor his Democrat pederast predecessor who actually had sex with a minor aged kid, a male, and yet was re-elected by the people of Massachusetts [Gerry Studds],nor Craig. Yet no-one can hang anything on Romney at this time.
Though I am as pleased as anyone that yet another right-wing, family values, religiously hypocritical Republican has been brought down AND hoisted on his own petard (mixed metaphors cheerfully acknowledged!!!) So, Larry Craig hates gay people because he hates that part of himself, and he gains personal and political advantage by oppressing gay people to fight his own demons. Big whoop. No real news there-- we have Ted Haggard, Lonnie Latham, Mark Foley, Jimmy Swaggart, Davit Vitt, among a veritable host of others, who did exactly the same thing. Hypocrisy IS the homage that vice pays to virtue, as someone else famously said. What Rochefoucauld did not mention is that it is also more profitable, as the host of hypocrites has demonstrated repeatedly.

But I don't think it is a good thing beyond that one more of them has been exposed. We gay people all scream "hypocrisy", because it is so obviously that-- at the absolute minimum-- so it is just preaching to the choir here. But in one sense, it is NOT hypocrisy. (I'm not making excuses for Craig). He is demonstrating self-hatred privately and very clearly, just as he is demonstrating his homo-hatred in the public arena. I mean, what kind of an idiot (pace Bob Allen) who has this kind of position, power, and wealth, does this sort of thing, except for someone blinded by self-hatred and the delusion that he is not really that way? He just slips once in a while. That is why he is not a gay man, and he hates those who are. Ted Haggard is another one.It is very consistent--and very sad.

As for the he haters screaming "see how all those fags are, and here's another scuzzy queer in a pyublic toilet." I don't think it matters at all. From their point of view, everything they know about us is true-- look at Larry Craig and Lonnie Latham and Ted Haggard--and so changes nothing for them. At some level, this is an acknowledgment that Larry and Lonnie and Ted really are straight men-- who fell. That they and the people who think that way have a great deal of responsibility for this less savory aspect of gay life does not dawn on them, nor would they care. As we have all pointed our repeatedly, this is not about morality, the bible, marriage, the family, or any of it. It is only about prejudice and hatred, whether disguised as sincere religious belief or admitted for what it is.

The people I am concerned about are the ones in the middle. Who knows how they will take it? I am afraid they will blame homosexuality instead of homophobia for the Larry Craigs of the world. This underlines yet again the terrible, destructive, corrosive nature both of the closet and of the homophobia that creates it, which twists and distorts and sullies and perverts everything it touches, whether it is in the gay world or the straight world. The costs to the Haggards, Lathams, and Craigs are just as important as the costs to every family that has broken up over a gay relative, or every gay couple that can't get married. Because of the prejudice and the homophobia and the closet, Larry Craig and Ted Haggard and pedophile priests are seen and being in the same class as Joe and Sam or Mary and Ellen, who just want to live their lives free of harassment, with the same rights and responsibilities and respect as everyone else.

The closet twists and distorts, dirties and perverts. That is it. And this is the poison that the right-wingers and the christo-hetero-supremacists are feeding our society. It may strangle us.

The right-wingers claim that homosexuality causes the downfall of civilizations-- no evidence, but it sounds right to the ignorant. The irony is delicious and unfortunate both, because it well may be that the fear of homosexuality and the hatred of gay people is what brought this current batch of idiots and moral degenerates to power. And that may well be seen one days as the cause of the downfall of the american empire.

By the way, Mitt is just covering his butt and distancing himself from any thought of being "soft" on homosexuality. (God, i LOVE that!) Larry craig is toast, and Mitt needs a political advantage
Too bad Larry..It was not w/o a great deal of regret that I, as an Idaho voter checked your box, not because I liked you or agreed w/ you but because of the representation you afforded us in a state w/ only a pop. of around a million ...we're often referred to as the"most Republican state in the nation." Thanks to your antics thats even more distastful than it was a few days ago when we were only associated with racists
Seriously, this is Bill Clinton's fault? Yes he was wrong to get an intern to blow him in the oval office. However, that particular act was not against the law. He lied about it, now that I wanted him held accountable for, mayhap he should have claimed executive priviledge. Craig guy broke the law, tried to weasle out of it using his credentials and copped to it when he got caught so it would go away. He knows what he is.  
Romney got what he wanted to do...got the attention off of craig and onto a Clinton.  back to topic, craig becomes yet ANOTHER repuke caught with his pants down (pun intended) all the while promoting family values and virtues.  It is not the act itself; it is the hypocrisy of having stated and supported the opposite.  "Do as I say, not as I do" does not work in politics.  Clinton never said he was a saint; craig voted against gay legislation. End of discussion in my book.
Bill Clinton (deservedly) left office with the highest approval rating in 50 years. And Romney will be lucky to make it past Iowa.  His comments comparing consentual sex amongst two adults to ILLEGAL sexual acts show just how desparate his campaign is!
Mitt Romney is an asexual.
Everybody is missing the point, it is not about hipocrisy or political parties. The fact is that wrong conduct is wrong conduct whether is committed by an unknown or somebody prominent. Anybody who chooses to go against the laws of decency and engages in inappropriate conduct has to be able to live with the consequences of his or her actions. Stop the blaming game and condening of a whole nation or religion over individual choices. Grow up and take responsability over your lives, nobody can make anybody do the right thing. We only have control of our own selves.
What a joke.  To put President Clinton and that Foley degenerate in the same sentence as if they have anything in common.  The difference between dems and pubs is that when the pubs get busted we pile on because of their holier than thou attitude.  If you want to spend your life telling other people how they should live you better take a good long look at your own life first
people are accused of a lot of things ,I really dont care what you accuse people of, prove it or they can plead guilty like your moral compass CRAIG.Are you still peddling the story that hilliary killed vince foster in the library with a candlestick along with her agent COL> MUSTARD ooo you got us just one thing ,we taught Karl rove how to count in the 06 mid terms we will teach you how to say president clinton all over again keep slinging hash my friend ,i mean mud cause im a piggie just like karl rove taught me.
Nathan Andover
Was he sober???
One feels like betting the farm that something crazier than Romney's religion is soon to come out. Will he be the only straight republican? Maybe just a little drag for fun, like Giuliani? Bill Clinton's indiscretion was damaging to the country because his enemies tried to use it to overthrow the electoral results. Later the friends of the anti-democratic right on the Republican Court gave them victory. Even when most of the GOP is run out of town, unless their Court is stopped the country's bleeding at the hands of these hypocrits and vultures will continue.
mitt has to look else where, his reflection would turn him to stone ,black hating flip flopping johnny come lately morman ,no i dont think a church that refused to recognize blacks should be called a church except for tax reasons.And remember that police song DONT STAND SO CLOSE TO ME mitts singing it on a rail outta idaho
Whenever I see politicians go against their own beliefs for political gainI label them political prostitutes, I apply that to Craig for more reasons than one.
Can anyone blame him? He's having his own campaign problems.


http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/08/log-cabin-fills-up-as-idaho-u-s.html#links

It's refreshing and encouraging to hear Mitt Romney's comments about the Larry Craig situation. Encouraging because Romney comes right out and speaks to and about the reality of this situation without couching or framing his positions; and, refreshing
csh: Bill Clinton (deservedly) left office with the highest approval rating in 50 years.

Oh for sure, Mr. Clinton did many popular things.  Then, we were attacked.  Maybe instead of doing popular things, he should have been doing the things that needed to be done so something like that would not have occurred.

csd - what are you 15?  You act like being popular is important for a President.  Sometimes the President has to do the right thing, not the popular thing.  This ain't high school.
The problem is the hypocrisy, Mitt.

---------------

How is Mitt getting dragged into this?

Craig endorsed him, and now all of sudden it's Mitt's doing?

By the way, who is Bill Clinton endorsing?
I don't recall that Hillary and Chelsea consented for Bill to have sex with Monica.  Or whatever it was that he had with her.

By the way, I seem to recall that one of the encounters between Bill and Monica was in the bathroom off the oval office.   No foot tapping involved as far as I know but very possibly hands on all fours, I mean, on the floor.

Where did Romney blame Bill Clinton for this or any other incident?
Lemme see if I got this straight-  Getting some from a woman vs. a guy (when the 'gettor' is also a guy), is somehow the same??   Geekers- y' learn something new every day!
Roger SLUT, you are also a confused gay republican male. Stop hiding.
Every nite (if you watch MSNBC) you will see the hours of footage where Chris Hanson is busting men for soliciting sex from young girls/boys online. Most of those guys go to jail. How is that different from what Mark Foley did? He skated out scot-free. Every one who knew him knew what he was all about. No one did anything.  They (Repubs) begged him to run again. Craig is no different. He got busted this time and couldn't bluff his way out. There have been allegations about this for years "where there's smoke there's fire" my dad used to say. I don't frequent men's bathrooms so I don't know.....do men actually look thru the cracks of the toilet stalls and make eye contact (my husband says no!)? I'm asking....I don't ever remember doing that in the women's bathroom. The only reason to put your hand into the next stall is if you have asked that person for toilet paper (hasn't happened to me since high school). That eye contact thing says it all as far as I'm concerned (too creepy). The being gay thing doesn't bother me. They are people just like me and should have all the rights that I do as my husbands spouse. Unlike Bill Richardson....I don't believe it's a "choice". You either are or you are not. Craig is either gay or bi and that is his business...don't care until he gets busted in a public bathroom (ewww) being stupid. So did Bill Clinton cause Larry Craig to make eye contact and tap his foot? Yes, Bill Clinton did a bad thing. He redeemed himself before he left office. He lied about an extra-marital bj....I would expect anyone in that position to lie about it. Really....if Hillary can get over it....I can too (and have). Bill lied about a bj, no one died, Bush lied about Iraq and many of our soldiers have died. Yep..that says it all. Support our remaining troops...bring the rest of them home alive.


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