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Obama's Iraq plan

Posted: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:07 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Andy Merten and NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
Obama
laid out his four-point strategy for Iraq today before a packed crowd at Ashton University in Clinton, Iowa. It is comprised of: 1) Commencing in an immediate withdrawal of one or two brigades (3,500 or 7,000 troops) a month; 2) a pressing effort for political stability, with aid from a United Nations constitutional convention; 3) increased regional diplomacy, especially with leaders of Syria and Iran; and 4) humanitarian intervention and financial aid to help stem the effects of current and future sectarian violence.
 
Although the Obama plan calls for a remaining residual military presence to protect American diplomatic and military personnel and continue hunting al-Qaeda, the Illinois senator did not, in his speech or in an extended overview of his plan, reveal exactly how many troops would remain. In addition, the Edwards campaign, speaking with reporters on a conference call on Monday, called for a residual force but denied to give exact numbers.

Obama was introduced by an Iraq vet, who served in Fallujah, and spoke against backdrop of American Flags with a small sign on the podium that read, “Turning the Page in Iraq.” The crowd was made up of college students and senior citizens, some from Illinois.

Obama’s speech also included a few lightly veiled political digs at Clinton, invoking the term “conventional thinking” several times. In an unmistakable shot at Clinton, he said: “Despite -- or perhaps because of how much experience they had in Washington -- too many politicians feared looking weak and failed to ask hard questions. Too many took the President as his word instead of reading the intelligence for themselves.”

He also joked about the namesake of the city in which he was speaking, saying, “It was a happy accident, but we do hope that the headline after we leave is ‘Clinton endorses Obama.’”

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What's all this talk about numbers. These are nothing without a real political plans. Just keep up the talking to get press time guys.
Sen. Obama is the only Dem. candidate challenging Washington's so-called conventional wisdom...Go Obama'08
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So far Obama's stance on foreign relations issues, specifically Pakistan, have been vetted by former diplomats, A Former Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, and a former CIA head.  Yet the msm so eager to jump on the HRC bandwagon called them "flubs" for no other reason than the fact that a senator who continues to flip flop on Iraq deemed them so.  

It is increasingly clear that Senator Obama has the most clear, productive, and common sense plans, approaches, and policy when it comes to foreign policy. Not to mention consistent.

It doesn't need to be reminded unlike a senator who supported the war for two years then didn't support it and then was on the fence until it was politically expedient, Obama opposed it from the start.
Love that last line.
I have not seen the video yet, so cannot say what I think of it.  but, I did see Samantha Powers on Tucker and the reason, as she stated, for no actual number of residual troops is that at this point no one simply knows.  i guess Obama talked with several military experts on this and they said the same.
He was at Ashford University in Clinton, Iowa.
I just read that in NBC polls Bush's ratings are going up. Wow! People need to wake up before it's too late. Stop being scared of what this administration is saying. They lie every chance they can get. It's time for some common sense politics. Obama'08
If Obama had real courage, he'd be leading a filibuster in the senate next time Iraq funding comes up. Don't give Bush anything, not one more cent. But Obama has a habit of playing it safe, so that's not about to happen.
G-Obama '08
Cut $100 Billion from the Iraq War Funding and allocate it  to DHS so they can DEPORT all Illegal Immigrants. This will DEFINITELY make America SAFER. General Petraeus stated he does not know if the $200 Billion per year in Iraq is making America Safer.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/deportation.cost/index.html

Jim Frego
Grants Pass, OR
Wonderful, the 'clean' black man with a booming voice says that we should reduce troop levels over time -- even specifying how many and when.  Who has ever been to a football game where the coach of the winning side has announced over the loudspeaker, the phased withdrawls of his team over the remaining quarters.

Such is the facile reasoning of the retreating Democratic Party, anxious for another Vietnam-like loss.
here is my plan for Irag-Leave only enough american troops there to train the Irag armies to continue the fight against terrorist.Our soilders shoud not be on the frontline anymore,they should training Iragies to protect their own country.
If only there was such a person as a REAL military expert.  Political hacks, war lovers abound.
We are reaping the epidemic of death and destruction rendered by the WORST president ever.
Obama, Edwards, Clinton all of Congress can not save us now.
Today the drum beat of IRAN is being beaten by the MEDIA again.  The war mongers are selling a new FEAR And LIES. IRAN has NUKES! WE HAVE AN IDIOT DECIEDER!
Who in their right mind would ever believe anything this Administration spews. I for one can not ever trust a thing they say.
Generals are the HACKS for the Administration.
GOOD MORNING VIETNAM.
Ashe, SF CA / "Sen. Obama is the only Dem. candidate challenging Washington's so-called conventional wisdom...Go Obama'08"

john edwards always challenged the status quo in washington, actually he is the original dem "change" candidate but due to his statements against the corporations that own the government and media he has been kept effectively muzzled, and of course he does not have the novelty appeal of obama and hillary
Well, at least Obama has a plan.  I love the analogy of war being like a foot ball game; had to have been written by some guy who is an armchair quarterback and the closest he's ever been to war is watching Arnold Sxhwarzenegger movies.  Without a clear plan and/or the ability to change strategy depending on conditions on the ground a war cannot be won.  Maybe, this is a little like football but unless there is an injury most players get back up to play another down.  Not the same in war.  When a guy goes down in war, it is usually for good.  If one ever experiences the sight of this, as I and many other veterans have, the football analogy becomes as ludicrous.
Woody, "giving away the play book" is a straw man and always has been.  At some point we'll leave, unless Republicans have their way.  At that point it will be known and everyone will be aware that it will take months to withdraw.  Therefore the only solution to your challenge is to always keep 130,000-160,000 troops there until we finally go bankrupt...and withdraw.  Oops, that doesn't work either.
Woody writes: "Who has ever been to a football game where the coach of the winning side has announced over the loudspeaker, the phased withdrawls of his team over the remaining quarters."

Have you ever been in a football game with no end in sight? One which we've been losing for 5 years where our players keep dying just because the coach is too cowardly to admit defeat on his watch?
Great Post Mark!  


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