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Biden highlights electability

Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:12 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Andy Merten
Joe Biden played up his electability during remarks in Iowa today, after picking up the endorsement of Iowa House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.

“I believe, at the end of the day, one of the major issues for the people of Iowa to consider me, and the other candidates is, our electability nationwide,” Biden told a crowd in Des Moines. Will we be able to go into those 30 states we’ve consistently lost the last eight years and be able to generate genuine support and have an opportunity to compete in 15 of those states? You cannot govern this country merely by winning the same 20 states plus one. That will give you enough electoral votes, but it will not give you the mandate you need.”
 
The Delaware Democrat also previewed his reaction to tonight’s address by President Bush. “It’s pretty clear what he’s going to say,” Biden said.  “But he cannot shirk this off as the decision made by his generals. This is the president’s war, the president’s decisions, and the president had a failed policy from the outset.”

He went on to say that both objectives of the surge -- standing up the Iraqi military and spurring political reconciliation -- have failed, echoing the comments of his fellow Democrats since the Petraeus-Crocker hearings earlier this week. 

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This Republican will not be voting for any of the Bush-clones running on the R ticket.  This Republican supports the ONLY candidate with a REAL plan to get us out of Iraq, and back to taking care of OUR problems in THIS country.  That candidate in Joe Biden.  Do yousself the biggest favor you can and take a hard look at Joe Biden.
In response to: Richard, NYC; Nicholas, Minneaps, MN ; sam frazier; Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana


Richard, NYC claimed "Biden is owned by the credit card companies..."  JIrby, Colorado  asks for a link, Over 20 hours later, and no link. Why? Because it wasn't true. Richard is probably a Clinton supporter, the false smear looks familiar!

Nicholas, Minneaps, MN  says  "If only Biden didn't dislike Obama so much--he's jealous because he's doing so well." I can't speak to Sen. Biden's inner thoughts, and whether he is jealous of Obama, I do know he has openly said he'd love to have his campaign  funds. There is no reason to believe that Sen. Biden dislikes Obama. Most of the ties I've heard him on TV or seen him on the stump Obama's name has not been mentioned. Many times he has been reported as attacking Obama, when he didn't. At the AFL-CIO forum Biden criticized  his fellow senators (pleural)concerning the issue of going into Pakistan if there was strong intelligence regarding Bin Laden's location, because this was already codified US law, and the Senators should have known that. The Senators he was talking about were Dodd and Clinton, not Obama, because what Obama said he'd do is already US policy. Hence there should not have been a controversy. And most the media (except Olberman) reported Biden's remark as an attack on Obama. The vote was S J Res 23 on 9/14/01. Biden has answered truthfully when asked about a specific statement, program or policy of Obama's or another candidate, but for the most part he hasn't gone around criticizing the other Democrats unless specifically asked for a comment.

sam frazier states:
"Heck he has never even had another job except as elected polition.  An he thinks he knows what the American public want.  What a DUD."  

Actually Senator has held a job other than an elected politician. Ignoring all the jobs he had in high school, college and law school to help pay his tuition, upon graduation from Syracuse law school he went into private practice with a prestiges law firm in Wilmington. He didn't like the work (mainly representing large corporate clients) and left the firm and started his own firm. He was a County supervisor, which was not a full time position, according to his book the meetings were held at night. In 1972 about 6 years after graduating from law school Sen Biden did run for Senate against a popular GOP Senator. He was not expected to win, he received little help from the DNC, as no one gave him a chance to win. However,in 1972 at 29 he beat the GOP incumbent, and has held that Senate seat ever since. As far as knowing what America wants I think most American's want the US out of Iraq, but also want to lessen the possibility of that causing a regional conflict. Also I think most people want to be told the truth, and you may not agree with him on all issues, but he does tell the truth. And unlike other candidates Sen. Biden hasn't been making promises he knows he can't keep.

To: Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana

Iowa usually does pick who they perceive as the most electable candidate. I have no reason to believe 08 will be different. Sen. Biden has more endorsements from elected Democrats in Iowa, and his crowds are getting bigger. And despite the MSM not reporting on anything other than their perceived horse race, Sen. Biden has been drawing larger and larger crowds, and the buzz is growing. He must be picking up traction because the Clinton campaign has been lying about Sen. Biden to people who say they like him, or are leaning towards him. They have been telling people he isn't electable because he is too old. They say he is in his 70's, and will lose a general election because of his age. When people who they have told this lie to find out he is actually 64 and that Hillary turns 60 before he turns 65 they are not only surprised to learn they were lied to about something so easily disproved, but they usually end up supporting Biden. I have no idea how widespread this attack campaign is, but it is an indication of desperation by Hillary's campaign. I'm also not claiming Hillary is personally  aware that her paid staffers are doing this, but given this is coming out of several of her Iowa offices in towns across the state, I find it hard to believe that it is coming from a few staffers without direction further up the campaign.








 



 
Sara, i am not buying your arguement on Iowa. If they pick the most electable candidate, why did they pick Kerry when they know he's not that sound?

I guess IOWA citizen are as overated as the politician in washington.
NICHOLAS,
Whether or not Biden and Obama like each other makes no difference (Kennedy and Johnson weren't too friendly).  
I like Obama and think he could be great.  His only real weaknesses are Foreign Policy and experience.  
Biden's problem is that while he is a fantastic general election candidate, he is not enough of a "lunatic" left winger and may not be able to push through in time.  

All Democrats - who do you think can beat Rudy?  Fred? Romney?
McCain?  Biden is already established in the political center and can draw from their political bases.

I was talking to my best friend's dad (ultra right wing, catholic, vehemently pro-life) and mentioned Biden.  His response - "Well, he is the best of that lot."  May not be high praise but you should have seen his response to Hillary.

It is not the job of the American people to make Hillary Clinton's dreams come true.  Sometimes making history is making the right decision - fearlessly.  

Biden/Obama '08
Today, Tomorrow, Together.
No matter your particular views, there can be no argument that winning the general election and enough congressional seats must be the cental goal of all political moderates of both parties.

We have had enough of being swung to the extremes, of bring forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, and of narrow political views, no matter how dearly held, coming to dominate the public debate.

2008 will be America's election.  Yet, once more we allow the loudmouths to steal away our future.  Hillary and Obama are just too marginal.  In the general election they will be swamped by politically motivated attacks.  Have we really learned nothing from the past?

What we need in the White House is a person of long and deep experience; a person with skills and abilities; a person with personal knowledge of the world and devotion to the core principles that bind us all together as one people, Americans.

This person must command the immediate respect of Congress, our Nation's high courts, and world leaders.  This person must have a demonstrated ability to lead through consensus and not by way of stealthy attacks on opposing points or view.  This person must speak the language of unity and respect for all people.  And this person must hail from the same sort of modest beginnings that gave us Abraham Lincoln, a man of the people.

Our next President must eschew polarization and declare war on mean-spirited debate.

In short, what we need in our next President is, first and foremost, that set of qualities that lifts a person above his or her peers and sets him or her apart--not just any president, to be sure, but An American President.

Joe Biden is the guy, my friends.
Top,

John Kerry was the most electable candidate in 04. Did he run a perfect campaign? No. But who in January of 04 do you think was more electable? Dean? Don't think so. Dean had the money to compete in states after Iowa and NH, and other than Kucinich was last to drop out. If Dean couldn't win any primaries, he certainly wasn't the most electable, you got to be bale to win a primary to win the general. Edwards? I liked (and still do) Edwards, and was the only one of 9 immediate family members not to support Edwards. (None of which are supporting him in 08) I was so happy when he was chosen as VP, because I thought he'd be an asset. If his debate against Cheney was an indication of his abilities as a Presidential candidate then he proved he wasn't up to it. Cheney lies and claims in his 4 years as VP he had never met Edwards before the night of the debate, and he added he had not even seen him once (let alone was introduced to him) in the Senate. Edwards said nothing. People watching assumed Edwards was absent from the Senate not just the two years he was running for President, but for 4 years. After the debate Elizabeth went right to Cheney, before hugging John and in anger told Cheney he had lied and reminded him of the numerous prior meetings between John and the VP, including when they spent 3 hours sitting next to each other at the head table during the national prayer breakfast. Given his trial skills I couldn't believe Edwards hadn't called Cheney on that during the debate. Sorry Edwards was not more electable. Lieberman more electable? I'll try to stop laughing. Gephardt? I supported him in 88, and he was more electable than Dukakis (sp) but NH went with Dukakis and he ended up winning. A congressman from Mo. would have had a better shot at Geo. HW Bush. But in 04 Gephardt was 100% behind the war, he wasn't even criticizing tactics, etc., so I don't think he was more electable than Kerry. Kucinich? Sorry, the guy has many good stands, but he is not electable. Let's see Sharpton more electable? No, I'm sure he wasn't. Of the 04 candidates Kerry was the most electable Democratic candidate. And don't forget Kerry had more total votes than Al Gore (who won the popular vote in 2000- as well as the election) and any prior Democratic candidate. Unfortunately The GOP did a great job at getting gay marriage on the ballot in key states and getting first time "value voters" out. Believing that Kerry wasn't the most electable is revisionist history, or lack of realism. Also, one forgets that the nation doesn't always follow Iowa, it didn't in 88, but should have, and 92 doesn't really count, because no candidate competed in Iowa, because everyone knew they had no chance against Harkin, so they didn't even contest the state.


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