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Oh-eight (D): Hillary wants to start early

Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:10 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Previewing today’s Laborers’ forum in Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times reports that Clinton, Edwards, and Biden will appear today at the two-day conference, while Obama will not be attending this hometown event.

CLINTON: At the Harkin Steak Fry yesterday, Clinton continued her inevitability push by announcing that the day after winning the election, she'll begin traveling the world (even before her inauguration) to declare that the era of "cowboy diplomacy is over. America is back."

On Saturday, the Wall Street Journal previewed Clinton’s health-care plan. “The most significant element of the Clinton plan is expected to be a new requirement for all Americans to have insurance. That disturbs some liberals, who worry that low-income families won't be able to afford it, as well as some conservatives, who object to such a sweeping government mandate. But many health-policy experts say it's essential that everyone be in the insurance system so that healthy people with low medical costs can balance out the sick.”

The New York Times did the same on Sunday. “[A]ides and advisers who spoke on condition on anonymity said that Mrs. Clinton would propose expanding the Children’s Health Insurance Program as a step toward universal coverage… Clinton aides said her plan would preserve a large role for private insurance companies; would promote the use of health information technology and low-cost generic drugs; and would create a public-private institute to evaluate and compare drugs, devices and medical treatments.”

“‘It puts the consumer in the driver's seat by offering more choices and lowering costs,’ Neera Tanden, Clinton's top policy adviser, told The Associated Press. ‘If you like the plan you have, you keep it. If you're one of tens of millions of Americans without coverage or don't like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and you'll get tax credits to help pay for it.’”

The AP also breaks down where all the candidates stand on health care.

The Hsu news continued over the weekend. The New York Times and LA Times examined how he worked his way into the Clinton fundraising world. 

Gen. Wesley Clark (D), who ran for president in 2004, endorsed Clinton on Saturday, NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones reports. “I’m very pleased today to announce my endorsement of Sen. Clinton to be our next president of the United States,” Clark said in a conference call with reporters. “I think she’s a remarkable person. She’s had incredible experiences. She’s smart; she does her homework; she’s decisive; she’s strong. I think she’ll be a great leader for the United States of America and I think she’ll be a great commander in chief for the men and women in uniform.”

Later in the day, Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D) also endorsed Clinton, NBC’s Abby Livingston notes. “Frankly, on manufacturing there’s nothing more important to us than changing the way we fund health care in this country and nobody in this country understands what we need to do or has the ability to do that more than Hillary Clinton,” Stabenow said.

EDWARDS: Unlike the Obama camp -- which is trying to push a different subject this week (the economy -- Edwards is focused on health care, trying to set his plan up as the one that's most frequently compared to Clinton's health care plan. In Chicago today, NBC’s Kevin Corke reports, Edwards is expected pledge that -- if elected -- he will call for the elimination of the health coverage of the president, vice president, Congress and all political appointees by July 20, 2009 unless Congress passes a universal healthcare coverage plan.

The Concord Monitor writes: “Edwards's service projects have arguably been the most visible of any candidate's in the Democratic primary.”

On Saturday, NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller reports, Elizabeth Edwards addressed a group of about 60 people at the Latinos Unidos of Iowa health care conference in Des Moines. The group had invited all of the presidential candidates to speak at the conference, but only Edwards made an appearance. Both the Edwards and Obama campaigns had booths at the event.

KUCINICH: The Ohio congressman issued a statement on Saturday complaining about not being invited to Harkin’s Steak Fry and a forum on Thursday in Davenport, IA. "The whole purpose of the primary and caucus season is to provide voters with opportunities, not to enable a carnival of interest groups to subvert the process," he said. "When Party leaders and their allies pre-select which candidates they will allow the voters to hear, it's a disservice to the voters.  Iowans deserve better than a rigged game." The release added that “statewide and national polls consistently show Kucinich running ahead of Senators Joe Biden and Christopher Dodd, who were invited to participate.”

OBAMA: In an email this morning, the Obama campaign previewed the candidate’s speech on the economy. “Using the subprime mortgage crisis that has led to today’s economic uncertainty as an example, Obama will discuss why the American economy and the American people benefit from policies that ensure openness, transparency, and honesty in the marketplace.”

So the Washington Post decided to look into the mindset of Obama and his political standing at the time he made his now-famous 2002 speech against the war. The picture painted is not one of a profile in courage. One key anecdote: "Dan Shomon, a political strategist who was advising Obama at the time, said Obama told him he was concerned he would be perceived as a pacifist if he attended the rally. Shomon told Obama it was important to speak on a core issue, particularly with longtime allies such as Saltzman organizing the event." Of course, you should ask yourselves how many of these folks are upset with Obama that they don't have a role on the current campaign.

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If everyone must have auto ins. why not health ins. which does the most good for the most people?
Go Hillary Go, we stand by you the whole way.
Go Hillary Go, we stand by you the whole way.

Students at UNF

To show his appreciation for you girls, Bill will be stopping by in the next few days for a private meeting.
She'll travel the world - but won't talk to anyone that she doesn't like.
Dennis and gravel didn't need to go to the steak fry, there were enough nutty people there already.  Dennis is right about one thing, Iowa is already pretty much rigged for either Clinton or Edwards anyway.  More and more stories for Norman Hsu, Hillary is going to tripped up at some point.  The more that the liberal press digs, the better the stories.  I wonder if this is Moveon.org's campaign to punish Hillary for voting for the war?
Lac, Bill is too old for us, just like you probably are too. Maybe it your own fantasy. Maybe its why we need a woman for president this time. You guys are really discusting!
Jerry,its your mommy, wake up! Youre having another one of your outrageous dreams. Go pee and get back into bed.
The smear tactics against Hillary will not work this time, like they did against Kerry ( a TRUE American hero, as opposed to the dirty little coward George W Bush).
I just hope "Cowboy diplomacy" doesn't turn into "politically correct" diplomacy.  One we know has been a disaster; the other would be just as bad.
The idea that having a concern about something contradicts "a profile in courage" is the kind of stupidity that Bush has exemplified in his ruining of the country; what's special about Obama is that he has pragmatic concerns even about the things he thinks are a good idea.  That ability to be self-aware and adaptable to the realities of a situation are far preferable to the mentality that assumes since a decision has been made, it must have been a good one; the ability to spot and analyze flaws in even the best proposals is essential in our next President, and no one has stepped up to the plate with this issue intellectually like Obama has.  
Students at UNF:

Please read the story about the Clintons in the New York Observer.  You are never too old to take care of Bill Clinton!

Google:

Bill Clinton
New York Observer
Knee pads
The picture painted is not one of a profile in courage. One key anecdote: "Dan Shomon, a political strategist who was advising

Please help me understand exactly what you consider a profile in courage....  Hillary standing on the Senate floor saying Sadam had WMD and voting for the  it without reading the NIE?  Or maybe the fact that she continued to argue that it was a good thing until she announced her candidacy?  That took real courage.  Or maybe Edwards showed courage too...I think he has admitted that he wishes now he went with his gut...why didn't he?

Give me a break...however reluctant he may or may not have been...and oh by the way this is one persons word....but don't let a little thing like that STOP you.  I have read where he disputed this statement.  Never the less....he stood up.  He had the COURAGE to say it even if he was reluctant.  Most thinking people
weight every decision they make.  He is not a pacifist so I can understand his concern that people would think he was.  He just thought this WAR was stupid....and he was right.

You guys are the ones who don't represent a "Profile in Courage" with your coverage of this primary
Lac Flambeau - I think it was pretty poor taste on your part to imply that Bill Clinton will be stopping in the next few days for a private meeting.  You insulted all the students at UNF, instead of praising them for taking an interest in politics at such a young age.  Many young Americans don't even bother to vote.  Please show a little class and stop being so sexist!
G  You forgot to tell jerry to change his underwear.
He is disgusting.
"Many young Americans don't even bother to vote.  Please show a little class and stop being so sexist."


Wait a minute.  This is the same speech Hillary gave to Bill after she found out about Monica.

UNF girls, look at this an opportunity to apply for those internship openings.  Make certain to dress appropriately.
President Hillary Clinton.  My family and I cannot wait.  
Students at UNF /  "Go Hillary Go, we stand by you the whole way."

but why? please explain what makes hillary such an outstanding presidential choice that would command such enthusiastic support, because she is a moderate republican that is running on the same platform as rudy giuliani or what?
Jerry - Same message to you as I sent to Lac Flambeau.  If you have something to say politically please do so.  But insulting a bunch of young girls is really classless, and dare I say, "UnChristian"?!?
Not to mention sexist, since I don't hear you saying anything about Vitter and the prostitutes he visited.
New Independent:

I think mentioning Bill Clinton and Kneespads is politically correct in each and every way.

After all, we are all going to be on our knees when and if hillary is elected president.

If you want the newspapers and TV players to stop talking about Bill Clinton and his sexual escapades, maybe he should take the first step.

All young people should know about the Clintons and their cheating and lying and specially Bill attacking women back int he 80's and 90's.  It is part of the public record.
Here's something political for you New Independent. Why would a group of students, female most notably, support a candidate that has allowed herself to be openly cheated on, lied to, and embarrassed in front of the entire country?  Why would anyone respect a woman like that, who apparently does not even respect herself?  This person is somehow that group of women's role model?  At last look she's still openly campaigning with the person that caused her all this harm.  And this woman is trying to pass herself as a self sufficent leader?  And now she wants to be leader of the free world?

Now excuse some of us for believing that this woman is just slightly off-kilter in how she views herself, and her capabilities.

Also, you seem quite selective on who you point out as making non-political statements.  Why is that?
Thank you Lac and Jerry for continuing to dumb-down the political discourse in this country.  The next President of the United States will inherit some serious problems -- Iraq, Afghanistan, illegal immigration, and health care reform -- just to name a few.  The best you can offer is sophomoric character assasinations of the democratic candidates and their spouses.  I don't think your attempts to demonize the opposition are going to work this time.  The country's problems are too serious.  The American electorate wants a serious policy debate on the future of this country; they don't want to hear about $400 haircuts or a rehash of Bill Clinton's past indiscretions.
Kato:

Lac and I will more then happy to have a serious debate about the problems in the country and the world as soon as you liberals out there get someone who is serious about those issues I have mentioned.  having a woman who is a liar and her husband who is well known for grabbing women(including using one woman as a cigar humidor)is not a way to get people to listen to the issues. Hillary Clinton has never been serious about any issue and with her in the white house, the issues are never going to be taken care of.
Lac & Jerry - The funny thing is, I haven't made a definite decision who I will be voting for yet.  But I do not like to hear mature adults (assuming you are) attacking young people for their opinions.  Especially since you used her spouse to attack her on.  Jerry - I think there are plenty of Republican sex scandals also to keep us very busy if that's what you want to focus on.  Lac - I guess you don't believe in forgiveness, or the fact that what happens between a married couple should stay between that married couple?  If she chooses to stay with him, that's her business not mine.  I couldn't care less!  But to blame her for his infidelity is like blaming an abused woman for every beating she received!  I believe that's what the abuser does.  Do you feel the same about Mrs. Vitter?  And numerous other Republicans?  I am tired of hearing about their sex lives, (Democrats and Republicans) let's talk about the things that actually affect Americans!
Kato in DM - very good points.

But how do you explain the following critical thinking political discourse from the left side:


 >> HP---  G  You forgot to tell jerry to change his underwear.  He is disgusting. <<


Anne in Davenport:  I find it equally disturbing.  There was a time you could have serious debate with intelligent people on this blog.  That's a very rare phneomenon now.  Many of the more policy-minded bloggers no longer post here.  We're left with the mud-slingers and the name-callers who offer little if anything to the policy debate.  By all accounts every candidate is either a liar, a hypocrite, or a flip-flopper.  Let's get past that nonsense and debate policy.  Who has the best plan for stablizing Iraq and bringing our troops home?  Who has the best plan for breaking the gridlock over illegal immigration, for tackling healthcare reform or social security reform?  I don't care about Edward's $400 haircut; I don't care about Bill Clinton's personal indiscretions from 10 years ago.  I much rather hear why a person agrees or disagrees with a candidate's stand on the issues.      
Turns out the New York Observer is trash. Don't bother reading it.
But what is interesting NI is that Republican transgressions are front in center in the public eye, and those Republicans are quickly dispatched from politics.  Anyone that thinks Vitter will be reelected will be sadly mistaken.  The "nobody's business" term you throw out there seems to be quickly lost when a Republican strays from the beaten path.

For Democratic transgressions, the "nobody's business" term is first and foremost.  Democrats fight to have work place rules in place to protect employees from employers seems to get lost when one of their own, the top one in this case is harrassing the help.  Then when the spouse of the top guy takes it in the teeth, it is not so unreal to question why that person is so accepting of that abuse.  And, if you're saying work place rules to protect women and minorities is not a serious matter, that is your business.  Many others though happen to think it is an important issue.  Funny that issue hasn't come up in any of these debates.
Hail to the Queen! Presenting...... the president of the United States....Queen Hillary Rodham Clinton. We LOVE how that sounds. We talked our boyfriends into voting for her too because they do anything we ask.
Kato - There are plenty of us left who still feel like you do.  We just don't make ourselves heard as loud as the others.  I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican, we should be discussing policies and what affects Americans!
The grown women at UNF--While your at it maybe you could talk your boyfriends into taking some sort of position on the War? I mean it's not unheard of to take a break from matriculating to speak out against unjust and illegal wars. A walk out here, a protest there. If your feeling real radical you could even try occupying a Deans office or two. The point is while you are preping for life after college, and getting ready for the annual Halloween Swaray one of your peers that didn't have your opprotunities  is bleeding out into the f**ked up shitbox of Iraq on the orders of a useless frat rat C minus Yale grad who has been check booked through life by daddy and mummy. I don't mean to be harsh here but the all volunteer army, designed to replace the injustice of a draft that allowed exceptions for the wealthy and powerful, has turned into a sorting system that dangles education and $26,000 imediate ship signing bonuses to people who think that $26,000.00 is a lot of money. This allows the children of the wealthy and powerful to go about their business and "serve" their country by supporting the troops right to volunteer and die for their country. I applaud your choice of supporting Hillary Clinton for President. She is a good woman and a good choice as are all the major Democratic candidates. Did you know that she was a Democrat? Are you even registered to vote? If so have you ever voted before? I only ask because the other day our College intern, noticing the Tombstone on my computer desktop, asked me who Habeas Corpus was.
Jesus Gary are you try to get those students killed! Do you not remember how the Kent State college campus was a blood bath.  Our soldiers shot them!


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