I'm sure the corn fed steaks were wonderful, but the talk pretty boring.

Politico's Ben Smith has a slightly different take on who won the visibility war at the steak fry.  While he concedes that Hillary had the most signs along the road he says that you could mistake the steak fry for an Obama rally.  He also said that "The Obama campaign sees the its cast of thousands as an organizational test, and if it is, its one at which they seem to have beaten Clinton -- who lost her Iowa field director last week."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/


Oh well, just more bias by the MSM.

Would you PLEASE do a LITTLE more investigation before you credit the Clinton camp so much.  MANY and most of their signs were put up in illegal areas.  Privates business owners could be seen angrily taring them down and the Obama campaign made a conscious decision to not break the law.  With the money the Obama campaign has raised and the supporters they were obviously able to bring out they could have easily put up just as many, if not more signs-- but their focus was on getting actual people into the caucus rather than putting up a few signs in places they shouldn't be put.  I think getting supporters in from all over the state is a MUCH better sign of organization than putting up signs.  

Far be it from me to question the scientific accuracy of your balloon, signage, and T-shirt counts, but I would suggest that you--as journalists who are ever conscientious in wishing to confirm the accuracy of your reports--should watch the C-Span coverage of the event. Perhaps, you will have some scientific way of measuring audience response. It certainly sounded to me as if John Edwards' talk generated the most vocal enthusiasm, followed by Clinton. But maybe that's just another case of my "lying eyes and ears."  

I watched the tail end of the fry on C-Span...Biden's speech was the only one I heard.  Most of what I saw was the candidates meeting and greeting people in the crowd.  One thing stood out as being a particularly huge gaffe for someone campaigning in Iowa.  Obama refused to take a picture with a young woman who told him she was a volunteer, saying that there were a lot of other people waiting to meet him so he wasn't taking pictures with people.  Meanwhile, elsewhere in the crowd, Hillary had a staffer with her that was snapping pictures of her with anyone who asked.  Richardson put off his staffer when he was told that they needed to leave so he could finish up with the area of the crowd he was working through.  

It seems like a little thing but in Iowa, it's all about how you relate to people.  Brushing them off is not a good choice.

The Wrestle-Off is only 100 days off, so they better be eating no fat after this.

Awesome photo! That's how I like my Democrats...united, positive, triumphant. What a great field of highly qualified, competent, noble candidates. Go Dems!

Jim, you are right about the Clinton signs.  They were also putting them in front of other's candidate's signs as well as placing them where they did not have permission.  

My take on the most important event of the night - was when Biden spoke.  Every other candidate got cheers and jeers and when Biden got up to speak he also got cheers but quickly went into his speech.  It was the only time the entire day that the crowd was completely silent.  They listened to every word he had to say and he was given a good round of applause by everyone regardless of the candidate they support.  While he may not get the nomination he certainly was the most commanding presence at the steak fry.

repub swiftboaters in action again.

So hillary hastily stole a slogan and hapazardly slapped it onto a sign in a weak effort to look original.  While Obama stuns the crowd with a movement of change inspired followers leading him to the event in style. Seriously why is Hillary even running? Obama is clearly the better choice.

Hope nobody has the stones to put Clinton signs on my lawn, I'll be on the news, using her signs to get my BBQ pit going.  On my computer, I have a picture of a dog taking a leak on a clinton sign.  If the clinton people were putting signs on private property, why were they not arrested and Clinton heavily fined?  You do that in Texas and the candidate better have fine money raised to pay and the TV cameras will make such fools of them it wouldn't make sense to run in the state of texas.

Another MSM bias..... Clinton did not win the steak fry "parade". As Politico mentioned, it looked like Obama rally. Obama people were more organized and know what they do. And they showed what is comming in a clear and loud voice, FIRED UP and READY TO WIN IOWA!

>> repub swiftboaters in action again.


Lots of material. And, once again, it's all true.

Why is there a home-bound republican lackey commenting on every democratic candidate here? Why doesn't he/she(?) talk about how great Cross-dressing Rudy, Multiple-marriage Fred, S&L McCain, and Flip-floppin' Mitt are?

Voting for Hillary as an instrument of change is like voting for Fred Thompson as the anti-sedentary lifestyle candidate.

The swiftboater repukes out trolling against, always against! Trolls, rats in the same sinking BOAT!
Pickey little minds watching all the signs, get a grip!

Pundits and reporters, particularly via MSNBC outlets are getting pretty bold with its racial rhetoric in covering Senator Obama.  "It wasn't quite the march on Washington..."  What kind of BS is that?

guess people just do not give a crap about their candidates.Seems they have given up already on their geesh-candidates.No praises or talk of why voters should join their campaigns.Where are the republicans?We know you are specialists on every Democratic candidate---don't you bother figuring out your republican candidates.Strange times

the Obama camp had a great turnout, but more than half of them left after Obama spoke. I thought that was really tacky, but the joke was on them because at the end when each campaign group held up their signs, there were hardly any for Obama and they were overshadowed by Edwards, Clinton, and Biden signs.

Astroturfing at its finest, ladies and gents.

I attended the Steak Fry and I can tell you that ALL of the candidates generated incredible crowd enthusiasm -- we have some kick ass candidates out there! Hillary and Edwards did seem to me to generate the greatest crowd response. As for Obama's entrace, let me tell you that the majority of the crowd missed it as the traffic was so backed up at least 5,000 to 10,000 people didn't get into the gates until 2 or 3 pm!

And, yes, it looked like an Obama rally at first, but Obama was underwhelming to me -- Hillary seemed much more passionate and riled up!

Carrie:  I was there.  Were you?  Is "Carrie" a blog alias... I was asking around, but only had a vague description based on what I have been able to discern from information posted on this site...

Sorry Carrie,
Just read your earlier post. duh.  It is just that there is so much junk on here these days that it is hard to spot the real posters, of which you are front and center (slightly left).  My bad.
You watched on C-Span.  You probably saw me.  Hoped I would see you.  This is an awkward medium for true conversation, is it not?

Gallagher  states "the Obama camp had a great turnout, but more than half of them left after Obama spoke. I thought that was really tacky, but the joke was on them because at the end when each campaign group held up their signs, there were hardly any for Obama and they were overshadowed by Edwards, Clinton, and Biden signs."

I'm a Biden supporter and I was at the steak fry. It is hard to tell whether there were more Obama, Clinton or Edwards supporters at the event. By supporters I'm referring to people who wore the candidates t-shirts, held placards, etc. What C-span probably didn't mention was that Biden's campaign was the only campaign that did not send people on buses from through out Iowa to the event. Nor did the campaign buy a massive block of tickets to give away free to supporters. It was a little like the GOP straw poll with Clinton and Obama's campaigns, and to a lesser degree with Edwards Dodd and Richardson. (Paid transportation and entrance) According to the Des Moines Register 15,000 tickets were sold, but Senator Harkin announced attendance at just over 12,000. In other words some candidates gave away a lot of tickets to people who decided to stay home mow their lawns etc. Hillary's buses were much nicer than Obama's, his were school buses, her's were nice air conditioned buses. Edwards had the most people attend who weren't bused in by his campaign, but I don't know how many of them bought their on tickets, or were given tickets by the campaign. Biden had by far the largest crowd of people who came from through out the state on their own, and who bought their own ticket.

As far as Obama's people leaving after he spoke I can't speak to the people behind me (98% of the people were behind me, as a large contingent of Biden supporters were in the front of the stage), but there were Obama people to my right, and Clinton to my left. The Obama people near me stayed through the end. Clinton's people (many her paid staff, and college volunteers)left after Hillary spoke. These weren't her grass roots supporters from Iowa, but rather her paid staff, and out of state students attending college in Iowa, who were volunteers (some for college credit). Hillary's staff always leaves after she speaks, it is a coordinated effort. At other events she has been able to pay for the right to go first (At the Hawkeye labor council forum, and the Hall of Fame dinner). Apparently her young staff thinks that when they leave after Hillary speaks it appears on C-span that a large group only came to see Hillary speak. And that may be how the C-span audience sees it. However, at the Hall of Fame dinner Iowans saw an ugly side of her staff. They came in late, because they had lined the hallways chanting for Hillary as the regular Democrats arrived at the ballroom. She bought 1/3 the tables, you could tell her staff by the ages at the tables. (and sign, if the 20 to 30+ age gap between those tables and non-Hillary tables, hadn't given it away) They were talking loudly while the initial speakers were giving speeches(the ones introducing the inductees to the Hall of Fame, and presenters). Hillary was the first candidate to speak (based upon her donation to the Iowa Democratic party) and immediately after she was done all her staffers (from the entire state, and other states who were flown in for the event)left. Even her supporters were embarrassed. They did the same thing at the Hawkeye  labor council forum, (again she paid to be able to speak first)leaving the first 4 rows empty after she spoke.  Sen. Harkin pulled the candidates names out of a hat (with campaign  rep's present) he was not willing to bargain off the right to speak first to the highest bidder. Yesterday her staff leaving was not as noticeable as in other events, even though she had several hundred Iowa and out of state staff members present, given the 12,000+ people at the event their mass exodus was probably not noticed.  As far as Obama's people not holding up signs I think that had to do with which camera  c-span used. The Obama supporters did not hold up signs as often during other candidates (at least near me, because they felt it was disrespectful)

My 17 year old son has now decided that Obama is his second choice, because of how nice his supporters and staff were. He says if Clinton is the nominee he'll vote for the GOP, he won't, but they were very rude, and have no clue as to how they are turning off Iowans.

As far as the Obama march, his supporters held a rally across the highway from the steak fry and they did come in together, and they were real nice. My daughter was excited to see Obama, she'd the only one who hadn't met him yet. I told her to go meet him, and she was embarrassed because she was wearing a Biden t-shirt, and thought it would be rude. One of Obama's  staffers told her not to worry that he would be happy to shake her hand. He tried to encourage her ( a 13 year old who clearly couldn't caucus for him) to go forward and meet him. He wasn't worried about a photo of a young teen with a Biden shirt on shaking his hand.

As far as the signs leading up to the event. I don't know who had more, I did see a large Obama sign knocked down, possibly by wind, but I don't think so. Signs are an indication of a large number of paid staff, and Hillary and Obama are first with paid staff in the state, then Edwards. But Dean had the largest paid staff, and Gephardt was second, and it didn't help them in 04.

At least as far as I know none of Hillary's supporters who left after she spoke left anyone behind. A sophmore from Cornell college (a small liberal arts college 15 miles away from Cedar Rapids) was left by his fellow Richardson supporters. They called him on  his cell and said they were taking off to beat traffic out of the parking lot. He wanted to see all the candidates so he took a risk he could get a ride back to Cornell. After the event he asked the Richardson Cedar Rapids staff for a ride back home, they said they didn't have room, but suggested he ask Biden's CR staff (who were manning the table near there's) Biden's staff said they would, but explained they couldn't leave until they had pulled all signs etc., and said it would be at least 4 hours before they could leave. I was near the table returning placards, and offered to take him back to Cornell. He was a nice young man, and far more appreciative than he needed to be.      

Carrie,

I didn't see the C-span coverage, as I was there. However, Obama did pose for pictures. And his staff was willing to have my daughter in her Biden t-shirt pose with him in a picture. She declined, because she thought it would be "mean" to do to him. It was her decision. It seems odd he'd not allow a picture with a staffer, other than he was there to meet people, not his own staff.

Sara - That was very nice of you to give him a ride.  Thanks for the detailed first-hand account.

I must admit that this was the first Democrat rally I have been to and really enjoyed the afternoon. Hopefully the Democrats can pull in more Independents or moderate Republicans. I felt Clinton, Obama, Edwards and Biden supports were all there in force. There were slightly more of Clinton and Obama supporters. Yes Clinton and Obama had more signs but a lot of them were put at business that were not open and just put there with out permission.
All the candidates stated that they wanted to end the war. But the only one that has told how he would stop the war was Joe Biden.  His speech was the only one that everyone was completely glued to and had real substance and spelled out what he would do with the situation in Iraq.
I have been home for three weeks after spending a year in Iraq with the Army.  If a candidate states we should pull everyone out now does not realize what kind of invested in equipment we have over there. We have spent 4 plus years bring all this stuff over there and it will take just as long to bring it home. We have already wasted billions over there, we don’t want to waist billions more just abandoning everything over there.
I believe the war is going to be a huge issue in the election and there needs to be a plan on getting us out of there!!

Sara - I don't know that she was an Obama volunteer - all she said was that she was a volunteer.  She wasn't wearing any candidate-specific clothing or buttons that I could see.  

It's good to know that what I saw was an isolated incident, however.  As I said, I didn't catch much of it, and I'm glad that he was posing for pictures at other points in the event.  Thanks for setting me straight.  :)

Mark - It is difficult to really communicate via a blog.  Perhaps eventually we will venture beyond this.

I'm irritated with myself that I spaced out about the event, and that I didn't even get to watch much on C-Span.  But such is life.  It sounds like (for the most part) everyone who went had a really good experience.

Mike - Let me see if I understand what you saying.  We've already invested billions of dollars in Iraq, so we can't leave now or that money, and the equipment we have there, will be wasted.  So the answer is to keep spending money there so that we don't waste the money we have already spent?  

I'm sorry, to me that seems like twisted logic.  

Gravel and Kuchinich were not invited because they are not members of the CFR (the Council on Foreign Relations).  Now there's an insidious organization that the "chosen" belong to, including the candidates at the cookout.  This is an old boys club and Kuchinich and Gravel are wise to not be members.  I am supporting Ron Paul.  He's the best of the options right now. He would end the war, and oppose the North American Union (a CFR idea).

Hi Mike,

I'm jealous that you were able to attend, and glad you had a good time.  I like Biden as well, but I will be voting for Obama.  I wouldn't mind an Obama/Biden ticket, actually.

Just so you know, Obama presented a very detailed exit strategy for Iraq on September 12th.  I've copied the URL to the full speech text if you'd like to read it.

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/09/12/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_23.php

Thank you so much for your heroic service in Iraq!  
We want to get the best candidate in the Oval Office,
so that veterans like yourself will be honored properly, and so that the current military will be
led by someone who puts their lives and well-being first.  I truly hope that everyone votes their conscience with this in mind.

BTW, thanks to all for the first-hand reports.  It's nice to get some neutral, civilized opinions for a change!

Another Rosie story on Hillary...
If we Democrats elect Hillary as the nominee this is what the General election is goona be about.Since shes running on his experience and accomplishments she has to take the good with the bad.
1.Bills Infedelities (you know the names.)
2.Bills failure to capture Osama bin Laden, after having several chances.
3.Her invovlement with Whitewater +all the other so called scandals
4.Her decision to vote for the Iraq War
5.Her lack of judgement And her speach made before her vote saying Iraq and Alqaeda had connections, though that very report she didnt stated clearly no connection.
6.Norman Hsu
7.Lincoln bed room and all the other money fueled scandals.
8.Allegations she hired She has so much Private Investigators to harass bills girlfriends
Hillary has so much baggage by Nov independants and moderate repubs are gonna be so turned off theyll vote for the independant candidate or the republican.
I hope im  wrong but i know im right. And you Know it as well.

Carrie, I think what Mike is saying is that its going to take time and organization to bring home all the troops, given how much we have brought over there. We have a big footprint in Iraq, as they say, one not easily packed up and withdrawn. He's not saying we shouldn't leave, just that its going to be hard.  I appreciate what he is saying, he's been there.

I saw the steakfry on cspan.  All the candidates had great support and were cheered by those who supported others.  
It is ashame the Clinton camp has to be so pushy as to have no care for the people who live there or anyone else.  what a pity
I loved seeing the pictures of Obama as pied piper leading his troops into the Steak fry.  how fun.

I think it's shamefull Kucinich was not invited to this event or to the AARP Democratic Forum on Health Care being aired on Iowa Public TV. Tax dollars help fund public television. I hope it is made clear that AARP sells health insurance and could have an ulterior motive in not inviting Rep. Kucinch.

From his campaign:  

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Saturday, September 15, 2007

 

DES MOINES – Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said Iowa Democratic Party leaders and other groups aligned with the entrenched political power structure are "rigging the game in Iowa" by excluding him from two Presidential events this week.

 

"The whole purpose of the primary and caucus season is to provide voters with opportunities, not to enable a carnival of interest groups to subvert the process," Kucinich said. "When Party leaders and their allies pre-select which candidates they will allow the voters to hear, it's a disservice to the voters.  Iowans deserve better than a rigged game."

 

Congressman Kucinich, (D-OH), was not invited to Sunday's Democratic Steak Fry in Indianola, nor to a Democratic Presidential Forum Thursday in Davenport. Representatives of both events have falsely claimed that Kucinich does not have a sufficiently "active organization" in Iowa.

 

However, statewide and national polls consistently show Kucinich running ahead of Senators Joe Biden and Christopher Dodd, who were invited to participate. A recent American Research Group poll in Iowa showed Kucinich getting 3% of the vote, ahead of Biden and Dodd, who were at the bottom with 1% each.  In the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll in Iowa two weeks ago, Kucinich and Biden were both at 2% and Dodd was at 1%.

 

In the most recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, Kucinich was at 3% nationally, Biden was at 2%, and Dodd was below 1%. Another national poll, Rasmussen Reports, showed Kucinich tied with New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson in fourth place, behind Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and former Senator John Edwards. Richardson was also invited to participate in the Iowa events.  Kucinich also won a post-debate poll on ABC's website after the last Iowa debate.

 

“We're doing better than some of the establishment candidates, and we're moving up," Kucinich said. "Instead of spending millions of dollars on high-priced consultants, and slick advertising, we have a highly motivated grassroots organization."

 

He also questioned the decision by the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) Iowa Public Television to exclude him from Thursday's Democratic Presidential Forum, which will focus on the issues of health care and financial security.

 

"The Presidential debate on health care has been largely fake, with phony claims from  candidates that they are providing ‘universal health care’ when, in fact, they are preserving the for-profit system of private insurance companies who make money not providing health care," Kucinich said.

 

"I am the only Presidential candidate to offer a true universal healthcare plan for America, HR676, Medicare for All.   It is a comprehensive, not-for-profit, national health insurance plan, and everyone is covered," Kucinich said. "No premiums, no deductibles, no co-payments."

 

"How can AARP and Iowa Public Television claim they are committed to educating and informing the voters of Iowa on the Number One domestic issue in this campaign when they deny a voice to the only candidate who is leading the effort to bring real reform to the health care system by ending the control of for-profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies?   Since the AARP's own insurance sales interests would be affected by HR 676, serious questions must be raised about their decision to deny me a place on the platform," Kucinich said.

 

In one highly publicized incident in July, unaware that their microphones were still on and the cameras were still rolling, Clinton and Edwards whispered to each other on stage about eliminating some candidates from future debates.  “It is most interesting,” Kucinich noted, “that a number of post-debate analyses determined that I performed better than all the other candidates (AFL-CIO, ABC, Howard University, Logo Forum).  I can well understand why the other candidates do not want competition, but the credibility of the Democratic process is at risk if sponsoring organizations join in the subversion of that process.”  

 

"You would think that the Iowa Democratic Party leaders, fighting to preserve the state’s  status as the first caucus state, would be a little more careful about giving other states the impression that they and they alone have the right to determine who the next President will be." Kucinich said.

Just plain Diane...I thought Bush was the one that "led" the troops into the STEAK FRY...they are sizzling!  He is keeping them on a low sizzle for  YEARS!!!  I wonder how he can afford all that fuel?

Diane - He was not invited to the event because he does not have an active campaign in Iowa.  This event was about giving Iowans an opportunity to listen to the candidates and interact with them.  If a candidate chooses to not have an active campaign in Iowa, why should they get invited to this event?

He made the choice not to campaign in Iowa.  If anything is shameful it is that, not Harkin choosing to only invite candidates that are campaigning in the state in which the event is being held.  

zen piper, New York, NY stated

"Gravel and Kuchinich were not invited because they are not members of the CFR (the Council on Foreign Relations)."  

Nothing could be further from the truth. The only candidates that were invited were candidates with an actual presence in Iowa, which would require at least one campaign office in the state. Gravel does not have an office. According to the program I received at the 8/19 ABC debate Gravel doesn't even have someone listed as an Iowa contact person. Kucinich has a Marcos Rubenstein listed as his Iowa contact, and provides two phone numbers for Mr. Rubenstein. The ABC debate program states "offices currently being located". In 03 (for the 04 campaign) Kucinich had several campaign headquarters in the state, and went to colleges and other locations to campaign. A campaign can find relatively cheap office space in Iowa. The failure to have a single office in the lead off state does bring into question whether the candidate has any support, or whether the candidate is really trying to win the Presidency, or is running for their own reasons. Kucinich did have a table at the event (Gravel did not, and I assume it was because they didn't have anyone to man it). His volunteers were nice. His table had xerox position papers, which is not a problem, but anyone who has worked more than one day on a campaign knows if your campaign material is not printed on Union stationary, or at a union printing company, you need to include a statement indicating "donated labor" or something similar so that it is clear the campaign didn't pay an outside non-union shop to produce the material. Even the GOP candidates in Iowa make sure their material has the union bug, or donted labor tag. In Kucinich's case, it isn't a big deal, because it is clear his volunteers are producing the material, and no campaign funds are being used.

Not only do Kucinich and Gravel not have offices, or any real presence in the state, the only times they have been here is in connection with the ABC debate, or Lance Armstrong's Livestrong forum. Kucinich initially wasn't invited to the Hawkeye Labor Forum the night before the ABC debate, because the minimum threshold to be considered a serious candidate is to have at least one office in the state. But Kucinich asked the HLC if he could attend, and they said OK.  In 04 Kucinich spoke at the Hall of Fame dinner, he was not invited this year, because he was not active (no office, not intending to have one, etc.) in Iowa.
Requiring some effort by a candidate to actually campaign in the state is not an undue hardship.

I was there.  Sara's account is accurate.  I was really turned off by the aggressiveness and rudeness of Hillary's supporters.  They raised hell from start to finish, (megaphones, whistles, screaming, and the ones who had not left already, left when Biden began speaking.  Quite a few Edwards supporters left at the same time.  I was near the stage, under the mid-field speakers, and all the people were in front of me who I saw leaving, so clearly visible to everyone else.  Classy.  Obama's people did a lot of chanting when he was moving through one of the food tents, meeting people and taking pictures with them.

I mostly like our candidates, and liked the speeches.  I am proud of our party for having so many good choices.  There were a lot of good ideas on offer. I've been listening to all of them on CSPAN and have met most of them.

But I made up my mind at the end of the afternoon.  When Joe Biden began to speak, he skipped the usual genuflecting in the direction of the usual issues, and spoke from the heart about the war.  It was a speech for grownups about serious issues, and the crowd hung on every word.  

I heard him answer questions about Iraq, and about the drumbeat for war in Iran, and numerous other topics, over the Labor Day weekend, and have been thinking about whether to support him.  Sitting there on the balloon field, I decided that he's my guy.  He is authentic, realistic, bright, charismatic and deeply schooled in the subjects we will need our next President to understand.  

I think it was Brzezinsky who said that being First Lady is not preparation for being President.  Watching the Hillary crowd and seeing the obscene amount of money her campaign spent on this event, I thought it is quite likely she will be able to spend her way to the nomination.  But I am not sure she is what we need.

Thanks to Tom Harkin for creating a place for us to come and hear our next President speak.

On the Sign War:

I think the Biden Supporters win Best Of Show with The General CornWallis.

I am the volunteer that Obama wouldn't take the picture with.  It really upset me because he took a picture with a newborn right after he told me he did not have time.  Other than that I thought the steak fry was fun.  The candidates all did a good job voicing their opinions, and the people of Iowa are very friendly, so all in all it was a great day.  

Thank you Obama supporters, you really put on an incredible show of force and made one of the most inspiring days of my life (and I'm 53)!  At least 3000 of us gathered across the street to rally with Obama then marched as a long river of change following Obama into the Steak Fry gate.  It was an awesome sight.

During Harkin's speech he said "Now I know there is such a huge crowd this afternoon, you didn't come to see me you came to see"... he was then interupted with thunderous applause , a sea of waving Obama o's and chanting of OBAMA! OBAMA!  

Based on the number of supporters that Obama had vs Clinton or Edwards, it looks like the Iowa caucus is Obama's!

So - let me be sure I understand: Gravel and Kucinich were not invited because they don't have gazzillion dollar war chest, so therefore they don't have ideas to share on healthcare and financial security. Do I have it right?

Lets take time to thank everyone at the steak fry regardless of which candidate they represented. The issue here is that we are all turning out to support the democratic party. I was there supporting Hillary, but I saw just as many for Edwards & Obama. It was a great turn out. It appears we are heading in the right direction, getting out and telling the Republicans we have had enough. Hats off to everyone that was present.

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