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Giuliani pushes military, intel tech

Posted: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:04 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Andy Merten and NBC/NJ's Matt Berger
RESTON, Va. -- While Giuliani will be addressing a potentially skeptical crowd later today at the National Rifle Association convention in DC, he started the morning off with a breakfast speech here to a business technology group, an audience with whom he is certainly more in his element. He lauded the use of information technology in the military and intelligence community, saying, "Government has to figure out how to respond to that" to decrease its size and become more effective, but warned, "Democrats will put a lid on that growth."

Regarding today's expected veto of S-CHIP, the States' Children Health Insurance Program, by President Bush, the former mayor said that he supports the president because some states would expand coverage to families making 400 percent above the poverty level. "We're going to take people off private insurance and put them on government insurance -- that's a disaster," he said.

Rudy received his loudest applause after saying that he hopes Congress will approve extending the moratorium on state and local taxation of Internet usage. He also was met with enthusiasm for his call for greater use of a "technology fence" to supplement cracking down on illegal immigration.

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I thought democrats were for the poor people
Must have been a dream.....
Guiliani's record on terrorism - place NYC's Office of Emergency Management in the WTC in 1993 after the bombing that year. Why? It was a politically motivated decision, and his biggest folly! It was dubbed the Bunker in the Sky.  And this guy says he knows how to fight the terrorists?  He's nothing more than a post-9-11 photo-op and 9-11 tragedy exploiter!
Tootsie thinks he is a tough guy.  He I think he is just a shill in an ugly dress.  I can't wait to see CLinton dismantle the myth that is Giuliani.

Guys like Giuliani are dinosaurs.
jerry,

Democrats are for the poor people. That is why they want to EXPAND the SCHIP program. Bush thinks covering more children is not "fiscally responsible", as he claims to be. But if we don't invest in our children's health, who is going to fight Bush's war in 15 years?
CitizenJ:

I make $82,000 a year.....
If the democrats want to add rich people to the SCHIP program, doesn't that make them look like a bunch of Hypocrites?

I think $40,000 should be the limit......

If they did that, then i would oppose President Bush on that veto measure.
OK Rudy, here is what you do to win over the NRA crowd.  Walk out in front of them carrying an AK-47 and when some guard tried to take it away from you just say "over my dead body; you will have to pry it away from my cold dead fingers."  You will have them eating out of your hand.  The good part is that you won't need to get into an intelligent conversation over policy.
Giuliani will do for America what he did for New York: he will clean up the streets and make them safer but the place will have little life and much less character.
Is this "400%" claim with respect to the *federal* poverty level? If so, then that's a very disingenous argument, as in many states the cost of living is high enough that the federal limit is a complete and utter joke. That's the same situation they're running into with the FHA currently.
Siegfried - I agree.  Even within my state, there are vast differences in the cost of living.  I spent a year in NW Iowa, and paid nearly half the rent that I paid when I lived in Des Moines.  And both of those are cheaper than the big cities.
Jerry,  Only in your world is $82,000 a year considered rich!  I live in New Jersey where you couldn't qualify for a home mortgage with that income.  If you're a family of 4 with both parents working and employer provided insurance, you're going to be hard pressed to afford health insurance without some assistance.  Again your mean spiritedness shines through.
Everyone should have free healthcare and we can do it by reducing the military, taxing rich people (anyone making more than $40,000), and charging undocumented Americans $5 to enter and exit the country (that should raise billions).  And let's not forget we can start taxing anyone who eats beef and those who aren't contributing to the Democratic Party via union dues.  It's nice to see so many progressive people on this site that think like me.  
Wonder how the poor black smokers "feel" about having their cigarette taxes raised to pay for the health care of some 25 year old white kid whose family makes $80,000 a year?

Al & Jesse need to march!!!
I only care about children for 9 months and then could care less about them after they are born because it helps me politically.
IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUSH SUCKS.
I'm bending over pages in hell
George Bush really cares about children you know. He gives them all the Chinese lead tainted toys they want to play with, refuses to help them with health care they need, and wants to cut college financial aid for those wanting to better themselves. And this man calls himself pro-life. What a joke. Start caring for children after they are born!!
Here's a better question to ask as it pertains to SCHIP or any other social program...wouldn't you rather see your tax dollars given to farmers, oil companies and terrorist clans in Iraq than American children? Repugnants do
Shrub is too drunk to know whats going on. He is ready for AARP and AA.  
Some one has to take him to the home soon, he has really been screwing up.
We don’t need to update our military or intelligence.  Moveon.org will provide us the money and insight to get through the mess brought on by our failure to win the Presidency in the courts.  I hate when we can’t get our way:(
Hey H P, I bet bush is a scotch drinker. They are usually more cocky then bourbon drinkers and he is so far from blue collar that he would never touch a beer.
Blue state baby I hear that is what the shrub likes best Scotch.
He likes it so much they stock it by the case on Air Force One. Yep a real big secret that we have the worst drunken decider ever!  
Well, Blue State Baby, Vicente Fox said that Bush was the cockiest man he's ever met so you may be right on the scotch.
This is why Julie's shrib's Emperor-apparent; he'll be a Cheney/Bush clone and trample our civil liberties with as much gusto as Cheney and his puppet have. No wonder they're trying so hard to make him THE front-runner.
Notice how red his face is and he is starting to slur his words. He forgets things, and has to lean on his pulpit.
At Least he's not Gore or Kerry
Maybe Bush was feeling cocky because he had a hole in his pocket.
"At Least he's not Gore or Kerry"

That figures. Let's just give Bush a medal for not being intelligent and articulate and for being a lush.

You cons are all alike: you side with people of very low quality.
George is a hipocrite .Does any one remember the shut down of imported perscription drugs. He said with the terror threat we can not allow outside perscription drugs , but then we ran short on flu vaccine and low and behold he found some ;IMPORTED from England. I see to two sides of his mouth, and he is usually talking out both . He also inhales and blows it up our @#%^.By the bye Gerry (german you know) I notice you did not take any of the ex-mil. up on the offer of giving you home address.HaHaHa
Oh Happy day? They the Wahington Paper Hanger ""and the Want to be's"" stand before the NRA. Yes a powerful place to stand and address those who command to be armed. And this is a ""GOOD thing""!

We are into the middle stag of being invaded by Mexico! 12 Million ,, most likely 20 Million.. They haven't fired a shot ""YET"", But what is in the future??? The control a major part of the low income labor force. the service food industry. many other service sectors.

You see the good ones ""Mexican" is here,, but what now is coming is the scum and the criminal. Our streets are starting to look like the streets in Iraq! Police gunned down in the middle while stopping a J-walker,, only to find that this J-walker was a wanted on other charges and had served time for other crimes and was deported!!!  Three officers gunned down in one week,  Rapes, murder in all fashion.

But listen to the Paper Hanging Washington S.O.B we have a war to be concerned about!!!

I'm going to support General George Patton, A great leader, General, victorious battle field commander, a man of deep conviction for America to Kill those Hun bastards.. And he said and did to the letter of his word.

Washington is nothing but a ""Bunch of Paper Hanging Son' of Bitches"" That is a word by word quote!!!

How I respected his leadership.

America we don't have one leader today which coud hold a candle to this great Man.

America elect leadership and put away the liar of Washington Paper Hanging gang!
Laurie in NJ:

I would suggest a better state to live in.  I can live a great life, put money away for retirement and enjoy eating out three times a week and all on my salary.  Texas unemployment rate is 4.2%, still got lots of companies looking for people to come work for them.  I've started working another job part time to put money away for Christmas and they want me to start going full time.  Told them 16 hours a day is a bit much for me.  They want me to stay on after the holidays, but i only do this for Christmas.

So Laurie, time to load everybody up and head to Texas.  By the way, if things are so tough, how can you afford time to type on this computer?

CitizenJ: Democrats are for the poor people.

This is why the Democrats want more of them.


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