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Duel at Dartmouth preview

Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:29 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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The Dartmouth campus newspaper has the details on the format. “The debate will be broken into four segments, with three commercial breaks of approximately three minutes each dividing the segments… Candidates will have 90 seconds to respond to questions, and the moderators may award them 30 seconds of rebuttal time.” More:  “Campus life will likely be disrupted for the first day of classes, as the Green is taken over by the Campaign Visibility Area, also known as the ‘free speech zone’ -- the only area where ralliers are allowed to demonstrate or display signs.”

The Union Leader looks at a new CNN/WMUR poll showing Clinton expanding her lead over Obama and Edwards.

Meanwhile, the RNC says it purchased online ads on 39 New Hampshire-related Web sites (including news sites and blogs). They feature an interactive game that allows users to guess which Democrat said what on important topics. The RNC also issued a press release early this morning noting how much money the Dem front-runners’ health-care and tax plans will costs US taxpayers.

NBC/National Journal’s Athena Jones spoke with several Dartmouth students, and most of them were either undecided or leaning towards Clinton or Obama. Those who supported Clinton often cited her husband as one of the reasons. “I think she has a lot of experience, and I really like her stance on a lot of the issues. And I also think if we get her, we also get Bill Clinton,” said Delfina Gonzalez, an 18-year-old from Corpus Christi, TX, who said she planned to register to vote in New Hampshire.

Those who said they were leaning towards Obama talked generally about his idealism and optimism, Jones adds. Jean Luo, an undecided sophomore who is leaning towards Clinton, said she wanted the candidates to step out of their managed personas in the debate tonight and get into more specifics about their plans for America. “I want them to stop sticking to their agendas that they’ve had so far, like Barack Obama having the really like inspirational speeches all the time and Hillary Clinton appealing to the same people she’s been appealing to,” Luo said.

As it turns out, hundreds of Dartmouth students will be participating in an online poll to pick their winner of tonight’s debate.

At 6:15 am ET this morning, as one of us was walking to work, Obama campaign workers were already outside planting signs along the main road on the Dartmouth campus.

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http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Poll+shows+Clinton+lead+grows+over+Obama&articleId=f005434f-fee8-4cbb-93b9-e7a36610cafa

The poll also shows that while most likely New Hampshire Democratic primary voters have a preference, fully 55 percent have yet to make up their minds. The GOP poll will show an even higher percentage of likely voters in that primary who have yet to make up their minds. That's down from 64 percent in a July poll by UNH.

Just a little fact you guys always fail to mention

K hate to see Clinton pulling ahead in N.H., such a pivotal state primary.  She's a walking, squawking disaster for the Dems.  She doesn't even make it hard for the REpublican Smear/Swiftboat Machine to sink her candidacy.
Be carefull "Delfina Gonzalez, an 18-year-old from Corpus Christi, TX, who said she planned to register to vote in New Hampshire."  I remember when I was in college some out-of-state students registered to vote prior to a hotly contested election.  Some of these students soon recieved letters from their home states indicating their state tuition funding had been cancelled due to their change of primary residency.
Hope they don't put any of those signs on private property like the Clinton's did in Iowa.
Debate is in 4 segments 1) Everyone gets to trash Bush 2) Everyone gets to say they voted for the war, then against the war 3) Everyone gets to laugh at Kucinich and 4) Easily the shortest segment, everyone gets to present a new idea.  Russert calls on each of them, and the candidates each repeat "I got nothing".
Hey Chuck...saw you with Mika

You guys act like this was the first fundraiser of this type and BTW Obama did it first...but of course hillary has never had an original idea.

As for the Hillary fundraiser "on the couch with Bill", you and Mika don't have to worry I hear they will have the sofa "scotchguarded" first.  LOL
Let's help all the anti-Clintonites. They could use some, with the way things have been going for her rivals, the news that she may top the fundraising game, her commanding lead in most polls, it must be pretty depressing. So, here is an article about what the field can do to try to slow down the Clinton juggernaut;

"How To Stop Hillary Six strategies for her Democratic rivals.
By John Dickerson
Updated Tuesday, Sept. 25, 2007, at 6:34 PM ET


Hillary Clinton will take the debate stage in New Hampshire on Wednesday night with the other Democratic presidential candidates—Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Clinton has consolidated her lead in the polls—she's up by 17 points nationally and has big leads in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, and Florida. The new recognition that she's pulling away may make this debate more interesting than the 384 that came before it, because the also-rans may decide they have to direct their fire on the front-runner, as trailing Democrats did when Howard Dean opened up a lead in the 2004 campaign.

Of course, attacking is risky: Rick Lazio torpedoed his 2000 Senate campaign when he attacked Clinton and came off looking like a cheap thug. Iowa voters, in particular, tend to frown on uppercut politics. And Clinton is a tougher, more skilled, and more disciplined politician than any of her opponents."

http://www.slate.com/id/2174678/

Hope you get some good ideas to pass along.


Van  
the republicans have made it possible for the democrats to outsmear/outswwiftboat all of their theives,pedophiles,jailbirds,drug dealers,toilet gays,etc,etc,etcd,.and the bushie butkissers that love this war without end.They are drooling to put us into another war with Iran and I do not think we have the bodies to throw around this time unles the chickenhawks enlist.
it would be nice if hillary would answer a direct question once, how many think she will?
van stoops to posting non factual drivel in a desperate attempt to show elitist hillary as a beer drinking good 'ol boy. for shame van"

Even though everyone knows what you are...


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-beer_wine_bdsep23,1,2460911.story?track=rss

Obama finds 'beer voters' hard to tap

By John McCormick | Tribune staff reporter
  September 23, 2007



MAQUOKETA, Iowa - Denise Bren's voice trembled as she stood in a city park near her home to ask Sen. Barack Obama what he would do to help people like her struggling to pay their bills.

"From the cost of gas to the cost of a dozen eggs, the price keeps going up and the wages don't," she said. "I'm in a family of two and can't imagine what it does to a family of four or more."

Skipping any expression of sympathy for Bren's personal plight on a day when he was focused on the Iraq war, Obama (D-Ill.) launched into a detailed, six-point plan outlining the economic policies he would change as president."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226452/site/newsweek/

Fighting the Arugula Factor
He charms elites. But how does Obama woo a must-have: 'downscale Dems'?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/opinion/25brooks.htm?hp

Op-Ed Columnist
The Center Holds


By DAVID BROOKS
Published: September 25, 2007

"As the journalist Ron Brownstein and others have noted, Democratic primary contests follow a general pattern. There are a few candidates who represent the affluent, educated intelligentsia (Eugene McCarthy, Bill Bradley) and they usually end up getting beaten by the candidate of the less educated, lower middle class.

That’s what’s happening again. Obama and Edwards get most of their support from the educated, affluent liberals. According to Gallup polls, Obama garners 33 percent support from Democratic college graduates, 28 percent from those with some college and only 19 percent with a high school degree or less. Hillary Clinton’s core support, on the other hand, comes from those with less education and less income — more Harry Truman than Howard Dean."

Imagine that, backing up what you say....

Van


vanreuter, NY NY (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:52 PM)
MK, MO.....No, she won't.  Notice tonight when ever she has to answer first ( espically if it is a tough question, she will either

1) Giggle or cackle
2) Ask them to repeat the question because she couldn't hear it
How nice to see that there are, actually, sane and logic-minded individuals in Corpus Christi.

(i.e., Delfina Gonzalez, an 18-year-old from Corpus Christi, TX - noted above)
Hey Van...I am still waiting, how about that bet (end of quarter funding)

Talk is cheap uh  !!!
Grace go blow your hot air in some one else's ear.  You are a pest and also a waste of time. The only talk that is cheap is the talk you talk, take a walk!
Why the hell does Hillary sound like a crow when she laughs?  Looking at her is bad enough, now we have to deal with the cackle?  Will she ever answer a question?  Every answer is "I won't engage in hypotheticals."  It may have worked earlier in the campaign, but I hope the voters see that she has nothing to offer.  With her in the office, it will be more closed-door and secret meetings, just like we've had with Bush for the past 8 years.  

I'm voting for Obama and refuse to vote for Hillary.  


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