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Oh-eight (D): Baby bonds and war

Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:40 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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BIDEN: The Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne writes, “There seems to be far more interest in how fundraising is going for Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards.” BUT “The vote on Biden's proposal to devolve power to Iraq's regions and three major groups could turn out to be a milestone in the effort to end the war. It was also a reflection of how much Republican frustration there is with the Iraqi government and the direction of President Bush's policy.”
 
CLINTON: Her $5,000 “baby bonds” proposal may have given fodder to Republicans. “The baby bonds proposal is one of the few mistakes Hillary Clinton has made in her campaign,” said University of Virginia Professor Larry Sabato per the New York Times. ‘Should Clinton become the Democratic nominee, she may have handed a powerful issue to the Republican candidate.” 
 
The Chicago Tribune’s -- albeit conservative -- editorial page was not kind either: “Vote for me, a candidate might say, and I'll cut taxes or boost school spending or protect your embattled industry from foreign competition. But Hillary Clinton is taking a more direct approach to parents. Vote for me, she said the other day, and I might just give you $5,000. The proposition, of course, was not so direct as to constitute a bribe, but it proved that in the realm of audacity, Barack Obama has some serious competition.” 
 
The campaign continues to do well with support from longtime African-American political leaders. Yesterday, the campaign nabbed the endorsement of Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums.
 
Two weeks ago, we had flashbacks to the mid-'90s with O.J. Simpson media stalking and Clinton pushing a health care plan. Last night, those flashbacks went back to '92 with Clinton appearing with a Tsongas. Bill Clinton stumped for Paul Tsongas’ widow, Niki Tsongas, who is running in a special Congressional election in Lowell, Mass. 
 
Clinton is co-sponsoring legislation introduced by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) that prohibits the use of funds for military operations against Iran without explicit Congressional authorization.
 
“Given recent reports about Administration military planning toward Iran and to ensure that Congress plays a proper role in the authorization of any potential military force, today I have added myself as a co-sponsor of a bill introduced by Senator Jim Webb which prohibits the use of funds for military action in Iran without authorization by Congress," Clinton said in a statement released by her Senate office. Clinton noted Iran's expanded influence in Iraq and said that she continues to support a policy of sustained diplomatic engagement with Iran.
 
Interesting timing, considering the attention that her Iran Senate vote got during the NBC debate last week.
 
EDWARDS: All in in New Hampshire and Iowa: The Chicago Tribune writes: “Unable to match Democrat rivals Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in fund-raising, Edwards has placed all his chips on the only bet available to him: a full-scale grass-roots push in the two earliest primary states in hopes that success there will vault him to the nomination.

 
The Washington Post reported and NBC/NJ confirmed Edwards’ chief media consultant left the campaign. The Post reported, “Senior strategists Joe Trippi (himself a media consultant by training) and Jonathan Prince will take over the development and production of Edwards's ad campaign.”
 
OBAMA: As part of his fifth anniversary anti-war speech, Obama plans to call for the elimination of all nuclear weapons in the world. "Obama will add his voice to a plan endorsed earlier this year by a bipartisan group of former government officials from the cold war era who say the United States must begin building a global consensus to reverse a reliance on nuclear weapons that have become “increasingly hazardous and decreasingly effective.”
 
More Obama from a speech excerpt: “In 2009, we will have a window of opportunity to renew our global leadership and bring our nation together,” Mr. Obama is planning to say, according to an excerpt of remarks provided by his aides. “If we don’t seize that moment, we may not get another.”
 
If elected, Mr. Obama plans to say, he will lead a global effort to secure nuclear weapons and material at vulnerable sites within four years. He also will pledge to end production of fissile material for weapons, agree not to build new weapons and remove any remaining nuclear weapons from hair-trigger alert.
 
The plan Obama is signing on to has been endorsed by Sec/States George Shultz and Henry Kissinger and ex-Def. Sec. Bill Perry and potential indie pres. candidate/ex-Ga. Sen. Sam Nunn.
 
But this past April Obama wouldn’t go so far as to call for the elimination of nuclear weapons. 
 
The Obama campaign is oddly confident about its standing right now. "I'm not too worried," said David Axelrod, a key Obama strategist. "The roadsides of Iowa and New Hampshire are strewn with the spent political carcasses of September and October front-runners."
 
The image doesn't exactly work. Historically, most dominant front-runners have usually managed to go on and win the party nomination, including those who had to scrape themselves off the pavement after a loss in an early voting state. But there are still plenty of historical reasons not to call the race just yet. Many candidates who seemed to be headed for a cakewalk at this point ended up fighting for their candidacies by the time voters went to the polls.
 
The AP's Ron Fournier continues his look at the candidates and their attempts at controlling their images by focusing on whether Obama is a "courageous leader." Noting Obama's '02 opposition to the Iraq war, Fournier notes: "The truth is that while Obama showed foreign policy savvy and an ability to keenly analyze both sides of an issue in his October 2002 warnings on Iraq, the political upside of his position rivaled any risk. And, once elected to the U.S. Senate two years later, Obama waited months to show national leadership on Iraq."
 
"His latest campaign ad calls Obama‘s leader with the judgment to oppose the Iraq war before it began.’ The words ‘courageous leader’ are superimposed over video.”
 
Courageous or calculating? These are the facts: In 2004, while getting ready for his star-making address to the Democratic National Convention, Obama gave presidential nominee John Kerry and other leading Democrats a pass for backing Bush on Iraq. Noting he was not privy to intelligence reports shown to Kerry and others, Obama told The New York Times, "What would I have done? I don't know." Once elected, Obama didn't force the issue in the Senate."
 
The Quad City Times gives some ink to an allegation that Obama broke his pledge not to campaign in Florida by speaking with reporters in Tampa last weekend. Per the QC Times, "The Tampa Tribune reported that Obama ‘hinted’ he would seat Florida’s delegates anyway if he becomes the party’s presumptive nominee. Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said the statement was misreported. According to Vietor, Obama was asked whether he would seat Florida’s delegates if he were the presumptive nominee. Vietor said Obama answered the question by saying he was so far from being the presumptive nominee that to answer the question would be arrogant."

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From the press release being e-mailed around by the Obama campaign:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/10/ap-obama-raised.html

• The campaign raised "at least $19 million" it can spend on the Democratic primaries, and if dollars that could be spent on the "general election" are added in then it collected "at least $20 million."

• Obama added 93,000 new donors during the quarter.


October 2, 2007
Clinton raises $27 million in third quarter

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Clinton outpaced Obama in third quarter fundraising.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Hillary Clinton raised 27 million in the third quarter for her White House bid — all but 5 million can be spent on trying to win the Democratic presidential nomination, a Clinton aide tells CNN.

The aide also said that over 100,000 new donors contributed to the New York Democrat.

– CNN Political Editor Mark Presto


More donors. More money. Who were those people who were betting their futures on this?

Seriously, for an Obama supporter who would point to funds raised or number of donors to justify his viability as a candidate, this is probably shocking news...

Van
Obama was in the Senate minority in 2005 - 2006, and wasn't in a position to push the issue effectively.  After the November 2006 elections, there was a Democratic majority in Congress, a public mandate to end the war, and testimony from General Abizaid that that troops should begin withrawing in four to six months.  Expecting the same results from two such different scenarios is kind of asking someone why they didn't shoot to kill when all they were armed with was a water pistol.
Florida is the graveyard for democrats.....

Hillary's $5000 baby bond is more like a bribe to get voters to put her in the white house.  We have heard all sorts of promises that Bill Clinton made when he was running and he barely kept them, like a middle class tax cut that never materialized.

Either John Edwards needs to pull some money out of his hedge fund accounts (you know, the one's that are kicking poor people out of their homes) and either run with the ball or take his ball and go back to his mansion.

Its called vote buying Hillary.  Last prez candidate to try it was some guy named McGovern.  Hillary's campaign will probably end with the same result.  Next time Hillary is asked about it, I'm sure she will cackle.
The DEMS have learned from Chavez that if you offer the less fortunate money and benefits you can bribe your way into total power.  Wow, socialism with a hint of communism.
Hello? First Read...are you there?
NotAlemming - maybe not, but you sure are stupid about how communism works.  Bush bought votes from the rich (by stepping on the necks of the middle class) but I'm sure a really smart guy like you saw that.
Such irony in your name, "notalemming" - hey, wait a minute... jerry... notalemming... same person?  Hmmm.
Anyone notice that Biden has brought together both parties to find a meaningful way to end the war?  Anyone at all?  Anybody?
Clinton already has money only wants power. Real power is the power to control wealth. By taking incentives away she can controll the ability to gain wealth. Bill Gates was not wealthy when he started, old man Walton had a small store, Clinton enabled Soros to gain his wealth, True power is to choose who gets wealth!!
Does anyone expect this to work?  If someone hits Hillary with allegations of trying to buy votes, she'll simply say that's not what she meant, and how are you going to prove a difference in semantics?  Besides, everyone says "vote for me and I'll do this for you".  How is this truly different?  And do they expect a politician to keep her promises anyway?

And isn't it funny that every time a Democrat does something the Repugnicans don't like, they toss out the same old rhetoric, like "socialism" and "communism"?  Pathetic, really...
Does anyone expect this to work?  If someone hits Hillary with allegations of trying to buy votes, she'll simply say that's not what she meant, and how are you going to prove a difference in semantics?  Besides, everyone says "vote for me and I'll do this for you".  How is this truly different?  And do they expect a politician to keep her promises anyway?

And isn't it funny that every time a Democrat does something the Repugnicans don't like, they toss out the same old rhetoric, like "socialism" and "communism"?  Pathetic, really...
FIRST READ,

a few blogs back I challenged you to find a picture of John Edwards without his mouth in a funny expression.  No luck finding one or no desire? Inquiring minds want to know?
Anyone notice that Biden has brought together both parties to find a meaningful way to end the war?  Anyone at all?  Anybody?

Stacy S.

Yes I did. Go Joe!
Of the democrats, Biden and Edwards have the most original ideas.  Their ideas keep turning into the other candidates ideas.  
Stacy, Biden is the best candidate for so many

Biden has a plan that he has been able to convince Republican Senators to vote for. Richardson says get everyone out, then try diplomacy, coming from a true diplomat, such a stand is embarrassing. He knows better! Where are the other candidates plans? They are afraid to state them, because they don't want to be attacked, not exactly a profile in courage!

Biden was the only candidate to warn of our countries risk of a terrorist attack prior to 9/11! Starting in late 1999 Biden  started voicing his concern regarding the countries terrorist risk, and the need to address security weaknesses. He attempted to get the attention of the White House (Clinton and Bush) regarding our countries security weaknesses. Unfortunately neither had Biden's foresight. After 9/11 Biden was the first to call for the 9/11 commission, he joined with Lugar in introducing legislation for implementation of the commission, which Bush fought for a year.He was the first Senator to call for full implementation of the 41 9/11 commission recommendations. And has introduced legislation which would require full implementation of the 41 9/11 commission recommendations, as well as legislation addressing other security vulnerabilities.

BIDEN/OBAMA 08
Today, Tomorrow, Together.
Biden Supporters -

We are at the tipping point.  Don't stop.  Keep pounding away.  


Hooray for Hillary! She's my girl!
Kudos to EJ Dionne for seeing past all the gossip of the campaign and noticing the only candidate that is able to bring bipartisanship to the Senate and to try and change the mission in Iraq.

Go Joe!
Stacy asked:

"Anyone notice that Biden has brought together both parties to find a meaningful way to end the war?  Anyone at all?  Anybody?"

Seventy-five Senators, many facing re-election noticed!

The Bush/Cheney/Rove machine that lost 26 RepubliCANT Senators who will now have a harder time justifying votes in support of the Surge part two noticed!

Nouri al-Maliki who looks even more afraid than he has up until now noticed.

Members of the Iraq parliment who suddenly realize they actually have to work together if they prefer a different outcome noticed.

Good work, Joe. Keep the pressure coming.


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