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Oh-eight (D): Obama’s Iowa chasm

Posted: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:30 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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BIDEN: The AP on Biden’s education rollout: “Biden's plan would add two years of preschool to the public school system. It would fully fund Head Start and other early childhood programs, and expand education and nutrition programs that begin at birth.” 
 

Biden’s, whose plan would cost about $30 billion, pledged to be “an education president.” He also proposed starting teacher salaries of $45,000 a year and his “plan differs from those of presidential candidates Sens. Chris Dodd and John Edwards, who propose, in part, to reform the federal student loan program.” 
 
CLINTON: At least one New York tab took the new Clinton ad, which shows her at Ground Zero (with a mask on) and viewed as a veiled swipe at Giuliani.
 
Clinton is now officially leading in the Hollywood primary
 
How does Clinton start convincing folks she's electable and not polarizing? Start telling folks that support for her among Republicans is growing, as she did yesterday at a stop in Illinois. 
 
Perhaps it was inevitable that the Clinton's inevitability would not start getting questioned on a near daily basis. Today, it's Scott Lehigh in the Boston Globe who makes the case that the Dem campaign isn't over yet.
 
EDWARDS: Elizabeth Edwards used an interview on Air America to attack Rush Limbaugh about his Vietnam deferments and to criticize John Kerry for conceding too soon in 2004. It's comments like these that keep Edwards among the favorites of some in the liberal blogosphere. 
 
NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller reports on Edwards’ trip to Kentucky: If you needed evidence that John Edwards was not on his usual stumping grounds Thursday, you could find it in the "Beshear/Mongiado" signs lining the highway, the country and classic rock stations dominating the airwaves, and the buzz about next weekend's Civil War days, complete with battle reenactments and a ball.
 
Edwards spoke at a state park overlooking the Mississippi River outside Columbus, Ky., after residents "demanded" he come during a summer contest on Eventful.com. Columbus, population 229, beat out second-place Eureka, Calif. in the contest. More than 1,200 people showed up for the event, many from out of state, and at least nine yellow school buses were among the vehicles parked on the grass coming into the park. Edwards used the opportunity to emphasize his rural upbringing.
 
"When I went away to college I thought I was a hick in the big city," he said to laughter. "I thought it because it was true."
 
Angela Callis said Edwards' emphasis on rural issues was what sold her on him when she met him during the general election in 2004. She drove about 40 miles from northwestern Tennessee to hear him speak at Columbus. "He understands that out biggest assets [in rural areas] are our children, and they leave rural America as soon as they can," she said.
 
Several local voters said they would support Edwards simply because he honored his promise to come to Columbus. "If he comes to Columbus, I'm going to vote for him," David Bencini, a fish market owner in Columbus, said before the event.
 
OBAMA: Obama's Iowa plan is outlined today a bit in the AP: (1) Keep Clinton's support down. Obama has to be careful about how he makes the case against Clinton, since he's campaigning on the need for a new kind of politics of hope instead of rivals tearing each other down. He's been taking the indirect approach - criticizing the actions of the Washington establishment and letting voters and the media make the connection to Clinton. (2) Keep Edwards from surging ahead. Obama's advisers insist they do not see Edwards as a threat for the nomination even if he wins Iowa because he doesn't have enough money to continue an aggressive campaign in the 24 other states that will follow within a month. But if Edwards emerges as the top competitor with Clinton after the Iowa results, it could squeeze Obama out. (3) Continue building Obama's support among both traditional and nontraditional voters.
 
Obama will have plenty of resources to air television ads across all the early voting states, plus he has a large field staff in those states working intensively to recruit supporters and keep them on board. Hildebrand said 1,900 new supporters signed up the week before the interview, more than half of whom had never caucused
 
As for the comparisons to Dean '04. "Obama advisers say they learned from the 2004 campaign. While Dean, like Obama, attracted a lot of out-of-staters to Iowa to volunteer, the Obama campaign is careful to make sure that locals are leading the outreach to residents." 
 
Speaking of Dean, there's an analysis out there that shows Dean donors favoring Obama over Clinton.
 
NBC-NJ's Aswini Anburajan reports no two events exposed the chasm that Obama’s message needs to cross in Iowa than his speeches at Independence and Decorah on Thursday. While the crowds weren’t quite Main St. versus Wall St, they did expose the two distinct, if not competing sects of the Democratic party, from blue collar, Reagan era Democrats against illegal immigration in Independence to the globally-oriented mindset of Luther College students in Decorah. 
 
In Independence, under a creaky pavilion on country fairgrounds, voters asked Obama about a strike at the local Cargill plant, his stance on illegal immigration, foreign trade, and health care. While Obama was well received, his answers were at times greeted with silence when he said that he doesn't believe in sending 12 million illegal immigrants back to their home countries.
 
In Decorah, Obama stepped out on a platform amidst a sea of shiny young faces, waving red, white and blue “Os” against the night sky. The senator was introduced by a man that railed against America foreign policy and its role on the world stage, and Obama’s remarks to the crowd of 3,000 people underscored much of his foreign policy message in the past few weeks -- greater involvement in the world with a strong focus on diplomacy and humanitarian outreach
 
Obama appears to have the 22 and under crowd safely in hand, but it was at Independence where the sell was more earnest and his message of change and hope found it harder to break through the tough exteriors of older voters who’ve heard the same promises every four years.
 
The candidate talked about troop benefits in Iowa yesterday. 
 
BTW, no story screams "Drudge creation" more than this silly Flag pin lapel "controversy" involving Obama. Still, "Campaign aides, concerned that the remarks might give an impression of the senator as unpatriotic, first sought to explain them in a short statement. But questions about the comments persisted, and when Mr. Obama arrived here Thursday, he addressed the matter directly to an audience of a few hundred supporters.
 
“ ‘Somebody noticed I wasn’t wearing a flag lapel pin and I told folks, well you know what? I haven’t probably worn that pin in a very long time. I wore it right after 9/11,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘But after a while, you start noticing people wearing a lapel pin, but not acting very patriotic. Not voting to provide veterans with resources that they need. Not voting to make sure that disability payments were coming out on time.’”

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Well, I sure like Biden's preschool idea.  As a mother with a young son who has attended pre-school, I can tell you.. he is heads above the friends' kids I know who don't go to school early.  He can count, almost read, write letters and numbers and understands basic science concepts.  He'll be prepared for Kindergarten, and I think in this "global" economy, our kids better be able to compete or we are going to be sunk.    I believe in early education, right on Joe Biden!
Please explain how this has her officially leading (not that it matters) because one reporter says so.
Well if she is leading:

To seal the deal, he's holding a fundraiser/birthday party for Clinton later this month. The director was personally calling people this week to invite them to the soiree. (By Thursday, it was practically sold out.)

Undersore he is calling the people and it is practically sold out !!  I hate to remind you when Oprah had the party for Obama in Hollywood is was sold out in 3 days with a waiting list ( over 1500 people reponded in 3 days)



Excuse me...is it just Obama that has to speak to the two separate and distinct groups.  No one else by your logic has to win over these people !!

This site is getting awful close to being called the "R" word...lets skip initials and call it like it is "RACIST"
Support for her among Republicans is growing???? I see she is the only one saying that.  Give me a break.
"The New York senator said at a campaign stop at a Chicago steakhouse that she thinks her GOP support is growing around the country."

You think eh hills? Making blind claims doesn't work.
Trust me girl, a large majority of republicans are dead set against you becoming president. We don't mind female presidents we just don't want you to be the one.
'How does Clinton start convincing folks she's electable and not polarizing? Start telling folks that support for her among Republicans is growing, as she did yesterday at a stop in Illinois.'

  sure repubs want her nominated, cause they know they can beat her in the general election, same old story, nothing has changed despite attempts to show otherwise

she is by far the most devisive candidate in either party, no other candidate has so many people that would rather take a bullet than vote for her
What the hell was Hillary drinking at that steakhouse before she said that she's gaining support from Republicans???? There is no way that they'd _EVER_ vote for her. They'd give Dubya another 4 years before they voted for her. I do agree that support for her to win the Democratic nomination among Republicans might be strong, but that is the extent of it.

What I don't understand is why Edwards and Obama aren't attacking her. What Romney did against Guilliani yesterday is _EXACTLY_ the kind of noise Obama and Edwards need to be making on a near daily basis against Hillary. The more dirt and crap they can throw in her direction and rip apart her positions on issues and proposals while highlighting their own, the better chance they have of getting people to see the light. NOW is the time that people start paying attention to this. I have no idea if they are as I'm not in Iowa or NH, but they need to be making it abundantly clear that she is NOT who she claims to be which is Bill.
That is a very good ad by Hillary.
I have said it many times before, I want to live in an Obama U.S. before an HRC U.S.  Come on DEMS, wake up and start backing the best candidate we have...Senator Barack Obama
Go ahead and annoint HRC the Democratic nominee in the media. It doesn't matter. The paradigm has shifted, and the traditional media no longer has the clout it once did. Not only that, but everytime the MSM trys to push the meme of the inevitability of HRC to be the next President, it galvonizes not only Republicons against her, but it also motivates supporters of Obama to work that much harder. I have never in my 47 years done ANYTHING for a Presidential candidate besides vote for them in an election. After 7 years of Bu$hCo, and being forced to accept whatever the MSM has parroted from the current administration, I am now involved. I am now active and am canvassing for Obama and donating money. I have never done anything like that for anyone before, and I know that there are MANY MORE LIKE ME. Oh, and by the way, these "polls" that show HRC as the front runner are absolutely bogus. No one I know has ever been polled by any of these polling organizations, and the vast majority of the people that I know don't even have a landline that they use as a telephone anymore. The MSM is going to have a lot of egg on it's face once again in January when Obama wins.
So go ahead and tell us some more how much HRC is going to win. It makes me and a lot of other people work that much harder.
Hey Jessica in Wisc, my husband is a republican and is leaning towards Clinton.  She appeals to moderates, that's just one person, mind you, but I think you might be wrong about that.
Yep, her support is growing amongst Republicans because they know she will be more like Bush than any of the other Democratic Party candidates; she will pander to big business, pharmaceutical and insurance companies, and she will listen to the globalization backers who sell American workers and small business down the river in order to make their godalmighty dollar.  Yep, she should be real popular with Republicans.
"Start telling folks that support for her among Republicans is growing, as she did yesterday at a stop in Illinois."

--Probably because they really, really, really, really, really, really want to run against her.
Steve in LA, you make some good points.  I do have a landline and the last time I got a "polling call" was prior to the 2000 election.  Just because MSM wants to push a candidate doesn't mean we will all take the bait.  I know so many more people who are involved in politics than have been in the past.  It is time for our voices to be heard.
*heh* And here I thought all along that the MSM was supposed to _REPORT_ the news, not _BE_ the news like they are in shoving HRC down our throats on a daily basis.

Then again, they did the same thing with Dubya in 2000. Look where THAT got us.
Isn't this damn presidential election over yet?
Leaning toward Clinton,

I think that everyone has a right to vote for the person they think is best.  I just have a really hard time believing that Clinton is pulling much Republican support.

I think Obama is pullng some.  He finished 3rd in a Republican poll in Iowa and I have run into some Repbulicans who are changing their party affiliation so they can vote for him in the primary.

I guess I could be wrong.  Your the first one I have run into that knows a Republican going for Clinton.
There is no doubt that Clintons have developed well-oiled political machinery subsisting for the past 20-years. Democrats love Bill Clinton and he is the most prominent person in the Party. He used his strength and capacity to align disproportionate major of Democratic Party establishment under Hilary’s corner. Having said that, Hilary should be sleeping with one eye closed and one ear open for the dove footsteps of Senator Obama, who if underestimated, would spring out surprise as a silent finisher.

Senator Obama and his team have spent the last 9-months silently building solid political ground infrastructure in the early primary states.  Senator Obama is going to prove conventional wisdom wrong that young people do not turn up on Election Day to vote.  Unlike before, Obama’s campaign has used Internet social networking to build volunteer support base. If these young people volunteers on regular bases to canvass support for Obama, turns up at group meetings and rallies, donate money to the campaign, then, the big question would be, why are they not going to turn up to vote on Election Day? Unlike before, group leaders and captains in Obama’s campaign network receive 3-day training conducted by Harvard Professor and other instructors.

Senator Obama has a very powerful card to play. Sooner than latter, Senator Clinton is going to explain her vote to authorize war in Iraq and why she did not read intelligence report before casting the vote to send men and women into war. It is going to boil down to if she did not have the judgment to vote for war as a Senator, how would she have the judgment to be Commander-In-Chief. This issue is dormant because all the front-tier candidates, except Obama, voted to authorize war, but Obama is saving the best for last. Democrats have not been reminded of their experience with Kerry in the last election; flip-flop – “voted before l voted against it”. The trump card Democrats have over Republicans is the war. If Hilary is the nominee, the edge evaporates. Everybody agrees to bring troops home but the disagreement comes in when the question is when and how.  
Lisa, I have been a registered voter for 38 years and have lived in 3 different state always with a land line but have never once been called for a legitimate poll except for fake polls trying to sell me a product or a "push" poll by a candidate.  I often wonder who gets the real polls. We once did a Nielson TV poll for a week but it was by mail.
Of course Clinton supporter are on a cool aide. Support for her is growing among Republican because they see her as a continuation of Bush Policy.

Republican support Liberman, we all know what happen. I think her support from Republicans underscore what i am afraid of in her candidacy. Another war with Iran. She already voted with Liberman than won the support of Republican in 2006 election.

True Democrats should be worry if Clinton win the nomination. Neo-Con is disguise.
Hey, Steve in LA, take a deep breath.  It's your kind of attitude that has done in the Dems the last couple elections. Instead of encouraging the implosion of the democratic field, look at the big picture - it's the Republicans we want to beat next November - NOT each other. And for the FIRST time in my 46 years I am actively contributing and working for the HRC campaign because I believe in my candidate just as fervently as you do for Obama. But just because someone is pro-Hillary does not mean they are anti-Obama. Hopefully you'll channel that same fervor next year for the Dem nominee even after Obama is knocked out of the race.
The republican that are voting for Clinton are the Neo-Con Republicans that see her championing their course with Iran.

America, please don't give a blank check to Hillary Clinton or else you'll regret every of your decision.
She will take us to another war with Iran with the support of main stream media. Please beware of Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Start telling folks that support for her among Republicans is growing,".......

OH MY GOD!!!!!! THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIE EVER.

Any body who believes that any Republicans will support Hillary Clinton lacks is being played for a fool.  In the eyes of a Republican Hillary Clinton is not an ordinary Democrat.  Republicans would rather sell their children than to vote for any Clinton, especially Hillary Clinton.  To say Republicans hate Hillary Clinton is an understatement.  Republicans hate her with perfect hatred.  A Republican would rather give away his wife, his rifle, his job, his pickup truck, and his dog than to vote for Hillary Clinton.  

The notion that Republican support for Hillary is growing is ridiculous, absurd, and frankly quite funny on its face.  Republicans don't think Hillary Clinton is the devil, they think she gave birth to the devil.  They think the devil asks her for advice.

Her only support is among hard-core Democrats and even that support comes from people who like her husband.  Hillary Clinton can not turn a Red State into Blue State.  She is un-electable and she knows it.

Once again, the MSM continues to add the daily finishing points to their early coronation of Hillary.  The Constitution protects our freedom of the press, but these 7 corporations that own everything one sees, hears and reads are doing GRAVE DAMAGE TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

If you really want to know what's happening, read buzzflashdotcom and democracynowdotorg.  Having lived overseas for several years in Europe and India, it is shameful the extent of the cozy relationship with almost all of the MSM in this country with corporate-friendly candidates.  On the Dem side, no one is more friendly to corporates than Hillary.  And this is the same MSM that beat the drums for war with Iraq, no hard questions asked.  The rest of the world press was aghast at the sheer unprofessionalism and blind and superficial media that we have in a nation like the United States.  Sheer disbelief at how they under-report, misreport or do not report at all, critical events and issues, nor ask deep or follow-up questions.  

In fact, she is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for helping to gut the middle class.  She is very PRO increasing H1B high tech visas, primarily from India, to replace our increasingly unemployed ranks of IT professionals who lose their jobs to them, as corporations then can pay 20-30K less per year, with no benefits at all.  Thanks, Hillary, and thanks also to your husband who gave us NAFTA, which resulted in the loss of over 3 million jobs over a fairly rapid period of time.

Now, our middle class and high value jobs are at terrible risk.  If corporations aren't taking the jobs to India, they are having the Indian IT engineers and programmers come here, and the Americans who lose their jobs to them NEVER get anything comparable again, salary-wise.  They wind up working 2 and 3 jobs... mowing yards, delivering pizzas, driving taxis and substitute teaching.  Shame on Hillary.  

Please wake up, America, and don't fall for the MSM's coronation of Hillary, who is totally in bed with the corporates, and will continue to gut the American middle class.  Her husband did it as a free trader, and she will, too.  

What I think about Obama is that I like his worldview, the fact that he's lived outside the U.S., grew up in multicultural Hawaii, his wisdom and the courage to tell the American people what they need to hear vs. what they want to hear. Who else went to Detroit and spoke of the need to increase CAFE fuel standards and was met with hostility for doing so, right in the belly of the beast? Who else went to the NEA and talked of incentive pay for teachers, which, to many, is considered traitorous? He did; he does not pander.

Fact:  Most important of all, Obama spoke out vigorously against the war in 2002 when it could have jeopardized his run for U.S. Senate and was called unpatriotic by many. He did it, anyway.

Fact:  When it came time for the Senate to vote on the war, Hillary DID NOT read the 90 page NIE (National Intelligence Estimate), even though she had 10 days to read it. Her voting for the war, to send other people's kids into war to be killed or maimed, without reading this critical report, was nothing less than DERELICTION OF DUTY.

That did it for me... the simple fact that she relied on advisors' briefings and not reading a report, which, had she done so, would have seen many caveats there, as did former Senator Bob Graham of Florida. He read it and did not vote for the war.

Fact: Prior to being elected to the Senate in 2000, Hillary's only recent professional employment had been as a lawyer in Little Rock, Arkansas while her husband, coincidentally, was governor of that state. She represented clients who sometimes had an interest in getting to know her husband better. She has never managed anything larger than a Senate office, and while First Lady, her international activities were more in line with the ceremonial responsibilities of a Pat Nixon or Laura Bush, than with the actual interventions of Eleanor Roosevelt. In other words, she doesn't have the government management experience of a Reagan, Carter or Bill Clinton. Nor does she have the international or military experience of an Eisenhower or a Franklin Roosevelt. And that apparently makes her the best 'qualified' candidate...

Hillary engages in non-stop triangulating and also, this question arises: If being first lady in the governor's mansion for 8 years and another 8 years in the White House qualifies for 'experience' to be president, then why not have Laura Bush run for president on the Republican side? How preposterous is that? That's the magic of the Clinton Machine's spinning and manipulating of perceptions and lock on the MSM. Hopefully, voters in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina won't buy it.

Time served in Washington does not equate with good judgment, as so many of the other Democratic contenders, long-time Washington insiders, have proven.

In Obama, we have someone who will unite our country and yes, the world. The moment he is inaugurated, the healing begins.

Hillary is a hawk. Even in the last debate, when Tim Russert recalled her vote to authorize war, the most important vote of her life, SHE GOT IT WRONG. He then asked WHY WE SHOULD TRUST HER JUDGMENT to be president. She gave her standard 'non-answer'... "I take responsibility for my vote."

Zbignew Brzezinski, one of the most distinguished foreign policy experts in America, recently endorsed Obama because of his good judgment. He noted how President Kennedy was advised by those around him to use nuclear weapons during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And yet, this young, wise president said no to them, using a naval blockade instead. He saved us from nuclear war...THAT is the good judgment Brzezinski's talking about.

Obama spoke out against this "rash, dumb ideological war of choice". He did it in 2002 and every year since then. Everything he predicted came true. He said we'd be in a quagmire that would drain our treasury and cost too many lives. He said it would destroy our moral standing in the world. All this, sadly, has happened.




 looks like hillary has two substantial reason to be pushed by the repubs

if she is nominated the repubs think she can easily be beaten in the general election

if she is elected president her corrupt ties with corporate america and the crony business as usual crowd currently infesting d.c. will ensure nothing will change

hillary is the embodiment of all that is wrong with politics today, but her machine sure knows how to cover all the bases

the only thing that can stop hillary are the voters

don't throw your vote away on someone that has the same agenda as the repubs
Aidyn, NY/ 'That is a very good ad by Hillary.'

Why?

maybe you meant to say,

'That is a very good ad by Hillary because she is female'

pathetic
MK,MO: '...she is by far the most devisive candidate in either party, no other candidate has so many people that would rather take a bullet than vote for her...'

Thank you, MK,maybe she's courting Republicans by voting for the Lieberman-Kyl amendment !!
Republicans LOVE Hillary because she'll motivate the religious right (what a contradiction in terms) to get out and vote Republican.

Hopefully, the voters in Iowa nad NH are paying attention and won't fall for the media hype !!


Good post, Joanesky, Sacramento !!
Trying to appear 'inevitable' was George Bush's trick
Look where that got us

This Republican supports Biden.
"Thanks, Hillary, and thanks also to your husband who gave us NAFTA, which resulted in the loss of over 3 million jobs over a fairly rapid period of time. "

I got so tired of reading all the uninformed who keep blaming the Clintons for NAFTA and 'free trade', that I put together the below facts, mostly from The Pew Center and conservative columnists, to counter the rhetoric with facts.  

The Pew Center: “To say that free trade has been a vital part of Republican economic policy over the past three decades is to understate the case. It has been one of the two pillars of Republican economic policy (the other being tax cuts).”

The Pew Center also released a poll yesterday, showing that 59 percent of Americans support free trade - a result that must reflect strong Republican support, since since Democrats are historically far more negative on the subject.

Ronald Reagan:[the republican god] "the freer the flow of world trade, the stronger the tides of human progress and peace among nations."

“NAFTA WAS PASSED NOT DUE TO DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT - MOST DEMOCRATS ON CAPITOL HILL OPPOSED IT - but because Republicans lined up behind Clinton in the most significant display of bipartisan cooperation in Washington over the past 25 years and the current president has championed free trade.”

Go ahead, vote republican.  Hope you've got a lot of savings, cause you're going to need it real soon.

Obama is creeping up on HRC, she knows it.
Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandal and divisiveness. She is Flip Flopping again on the torture question, go ahead ask her again if she thinks that torture should be allowed, I bet she can`t remember what her last answer was.
The repukes sees facing Hillary as their only chance of winning the Oval Office in 2008. Her continually changing her mind to fit her audience, it  really getting ridiculous.
She tries to say that all the Democratic contenders have the 'same voting record' on Iraq! LIAR, LIAR, LIAR!! a vote for Hillary is a vote for Republicans.
She runs as the candidate with the most experience only because she says it is so.  THIS DO NOT MAKE YOU EXPERIENCED.I still don't understand how 8 years of being First Lady counts as "experience"

As Hillary Clinton rises in the polls, her nose grows longer and longer.

To be sure, she has never had any shame about making stories up out of thin air. After 9/11, Clinton appeared on national TV and claimed that when the two airplanes hit the World Trade Center, her daughter Chelsea was going to jog at Battery Park near the towers, where she heard and saw the catastrophe unfold.
Clinton’s arrogance was so profound that she did not coordinate the story with Chelsea, who wrote an article for Talk in which she described what she had been doing that day. According to Chelsea, she was on the other side of town in a friend’s apartment on Park Avenue South. She watched the events unfold on TV.Clinton’s prevarications about her vote to support the Iraq war are even more striking. On Oct. 10, 2002, she stated on the Senate floor: “It is clear. . . that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” On Sept. 15, 2002, she said on "Meet the Press": “I can support the president, I can support an action against Saddam Hussein because I think it’s in the long term interests of our national security . . .”
Yet this year in the Democratic presidential debate on Aug. 19 in Des Moines, Clinton claimed that when she voted for the Authorization of the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq, she thought she was voting to support more diplomatic efforts. She said she “regret[ed] giving George Bush the authority that he misused and abused.”
Barack shows why he’s better and that he will not be arrogant and make assumptions about holding the office.  He reminds everyone that we’ve lived in arrogance for 7 years and that is the reason the President and the Senate made the mistake about Iraq.  He reminds everyone that this overly confident cocky attitude will lead this country into another 4-8 years of deadlock government and that our country can’t afford to make that mistake again.  

It's a matter of time before everyone looks at how Hillary presents herself.  This is actually Hillary that loss because she can't truly seperate herself from the other candidates nor answer the questions in full.  Obama is right


OBAMA 08'

Why wud any Repub. take the chance of her being the nominee. Are you crazy? Their best bet is to stop her in Iowa/NH/Nevada/SC etc. They will not risk a win for her in the general election(no matter what their leaders say). If she gets as far as the general and wins, their plan wud have backfired. So no(aint gonna happen). Repub. wud rather be boiled in oil than vote for her(too risky). This is the H Clinton spin/dream. No more dynasties(no to HRC).  
Hillary screwed up with the 9/11 ad.  I thought we were suppose to wait for Rudy to do one so we could scream how pathetic the Republicans were for using 9/11 photos.  Were going to run out of excuses if Hillary uses them all up before the general election.
 now that the mark penn web of deceit and corruption is beginning to unravel, and hillarys demise is inevitable, which candidates do you think the hillary backers will turn to?
We now all know why the Hillary campaign and the MSM are pushing so hard on the "Hillary is Inevitable" chant because her best and maybe only chance to win the nomination is to sew it up before anyone actually gets a chance to vote!  Let's just hope the good people of Iowa can save the Democratic Party and the country from a complete disaster
For the past three presidential elections, the media have picked the party candidates before the primaries even took place.  This year is no different (the media have been pushing Giuliani and Thompson since before they announced their respective candidacies).  

I must admit, however, that I am baffled by, and a bit suspicious of, Clinton's high polling numbers. I am not a Hillary hater by any means, but for the small number of you here who admit to being supporters, would you please tell us just exactly what is so special about her that none of the other candidates has?  (


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