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Not surprisingly, Giuliani wears flag pin

Posted: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:25 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy and Domenico Montanaro
First Read was on a casual lapel-pin watch today at the Americans for Prosperity’s “Defending the American Dream.” And of the five GOP presidential candidates who spoke at this morning’s general session, not surprisingly, Giuliani was the only one wearing an American flag lapel pin. Giuliani, after all, has based much of his campaign on 9/11.
 
Huckabee addressed his decision not to wear a flag pin -- something that Obama has been forced to address in recent days -- at a press conference following his speech.

“I think what a person wears, his adornment, is not a reason to vote or not vote for a person for president,” Huckabee said. He also gave some advice to social conservatives and their effort to remain an important voting bloc with a less-than-desirable candidate leading in the polls.

“If the social conservatives don’t stick to the issues that give them leverage,” Huckabee said, “they’re going to be marginalized completely out of the political process. They have to stick to the issues that bring their constituency together and animate and energize them.”
 
Along with being alone in his choice of “adornment,” Giuliani was also the only candidate allowed to speak for more than 20 minutes, roughly 24 minutes to be precise. Thompson, who was the only one to bring his wife on stage, spoke for 18 minutes. As previously noted on First Read, Ron Paul was pushed off the stage with exit music after speaking for 12 minutes, while Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee were each afforded roughly 8 minutes.
 
Thompson, who’s presence at the summit was probably the most anticipated by the press, had scheduled a press conference in the press room after his speech, but due to problems with his “schedule,” he had to cancel. This is not the first time Thompson has ditched the press after his campaign promised to take questions. He did it in Iowa last week and drew the ire of local reporters. Now, he’s done it on a national level as well.

Instead, immediately following his speech, Thompson went to address the AFP’s Virginia delegation. Virginia’s Attorney General Robert McDonnell introduced Thompson to the group of Virginians, emphasizing that Thompson is a resident of McLean, Va. This line was popular amongst the Virginians, but something the Thompson campaign has tried to downplay in portraying Thompson as a southerner in hopes of winning big in the south’s early primary states.

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Rudy is a total fraud!
Reminds me of the Peanuts cartoon. How many times will Lucy (Fred) pull away the football at the last second from Charlie Brown (the press) before they wise-up and don't bother running in for the kick.
Isn't Virginia south of the Mason-Dixon line? Why would living in Virginia make Thompson less a southerner?
250 and counting comments on the Obama thread because someone just noticed that Obama hasn't been wearing a lapel flag for the last 5 years. Most are names I haven't seen before; my guess many are ditto-heads and drudge-sludges sent over to vent.  Any bets on how many post here to vent against the patriotism of Huckabee, Thompson, Brownback and Paul?  No takers? Ahh, I guess you are all already aware of the notorious hypocrisy of the Republicans.
Great reporting, guys! A lot of fun observations.
Mike Huckabee is obviously a card carrying member of al queda for not wearing a flag pin
Nice, Huckabee's not playing up silliness about patriotic pins.
Its about time the media calls people out for stacking the polls by giving people more time.

Huckabee 08!
Treating Ron Paul like this is only going to backfire.  Every time Ron Paul is defamed or mistreated, as he apparently was in this instance, it only helps his cause.  Keep doing what you're doing guys; the old tactics don't work anymore but don't let that hold you back.
I'm surprised he doesn't have a 9/11 pin.
AFP's treatment of Ron Paul is unconscionable.
Oh my, a mainstream media outlet noticing an equity in speaking times?  What is the world coming to?  Next they'll start speculating if the attention the media gives the candidates has anything to do with the high polling numbers, which is of course the excuse for just covering the 'top tier' candidates.  Is it a case of the chicken or the egg coming first?  Oh man, this kind of thinking may give some people some headaches.
But the pressing question is, will we see R Guiliani in a dress and makeup like he did in NY. Will H Clinton's lapel pin be bigger than his? Which one of them (HRC or RG) will use the 9-11 tragedy more in their ads? Inquiring minds want to know. IS THIS A REALLY, REALLY SLOW NEWS DAY GUYS?
ps. The only really important item in this article was the comments of M Huckabee. That same advice needs to passed on to the Dems who are pushing H Clinton's candidacy.
Rudy disgusts me with every speech he delivers. He has no substance and simply uses these lame stunts (the cellphone, the flag lapel, lame baiting tricks) to gain attention.

Main Stream, please give Main Street more of what it really wants - Ron Paul!
I look forward to hearing all the far right-wingers who bashed Obama for this do the same to Huckabee.

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*crickets*
The way Ron Paul keeps being discounted by the Republican insiders is truly mind-boggling.  He is the only candidate building momentum.  One of the life lessons I've learned so far is that momentum is a very powerful force.  Dr. Paul has more volunteers involved in his campaign than all other Republican and Democratic candidates combined. He raised 1.2 million dollars last week alone and is on track to raise over $4 million this month. They can usher him offstage all they want, they simply ignore the fact that he and his message are gaining in both popularity and momentum.  Dr. Paul, you have my attention sir!
Rudy Guiliani or is it Rudy Mussolini?

For an idea of what America will be like under the rule of the iron fist of Rudy read this:

http://mostlywater.org/rudolph_giuliani_the_mussolini_of_manhattan

Well that was pretty rude of Thompson to cancel like that.  There are candidates that are begging to be interviewed by the press yet he turns down many of his opportunities.  Why do you guys keep waiting around for him?  If he doesn't want the exposure then don't give it to him.  Clearly he thinks he can just wing it without facing tough questions.
LET RON PAUL SPEAK.  HE IS THE ONLY REPUBLICAN THAT MAKES SENSE
Americans for Prosperity...prosperity for who..With Ron Paul it's the people...the rest belong to the Council on Foreign Realtions. They are puppets for the shadow govt. Check it Republican and Democrat running for President that belong to the CFR.... They don't tell the people and if asked will probably deny it! The CFR wants complete amnesty and the North American Union. If you middle class in the US Ron Paul is your only hope...clues jobs going overseas, NAFTA truckers driving across the US to Canada, Amnesty..WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
THE FRIGGEN WRITING IS OFF THE WALL AND IN THE NEWSPAPER. IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR FAMILY RON PAUL IS YOUR ONLY HOPE!
Did I understand correctly here?

Obama took the United States Flag pin OFF of himself.  Its not just that he once wore it,  it is that he has now refused our great flag.

The US FLAG that every child in this country pledged allegiance to for countless years. OUR flag that flies half-staff when a President or another great American dies. OUR flag that IS the very embodiment of FREEDOM and HONOR and HOPE.

Obama took it down.

For millennia, all countries have proudly carried their flag before their troops in battle, it was their leader and inspiration. Many flags were carried, but none so proudly and for the benefit of so many people ( America and other countries)  as the US FLAG.   Still today they’re called the HONOR GUARD for any who are so lucky to be the chosen carrier(s) for this great flag.

The most famous picture made in the history of the United States is of a U.S. FLAG above an island… named Iwo Jima.

Obama has now refused it.

Our flag stands for each and every great person and great event in America’s 230+year history as well as every person who has died for what it stands for.

Tell us now, B. Hussein Obama, that all the American people from the 1700’s , the 1800’s , the 1900’s, and in this new millennium, through each battle in every war including WW1 & WWll, from before and beyond,  that every drop of American blood spilt for freedom and justice for all, that NOW according to you, BHO, that wearing the U.S. flag means ‘unpatriotic’ testimony.  

Tell us, is this what you truly meant to say while you run for the highest office in the land?
The office in charge of all of our men and women in the armed forces who carry this flag before them?
You, as the possible COMMANDER IN CHIEF?   Pray tell, what would you wear then?
Pin the Flag on the Donkey? Pin the Flag on the Elephant? How about make'em all get "Flag" Tattoos on their gut, "Mother" on one arm, and "Apple Pie" on the other. Oh yeah, and "God Bless America!" on their derierre, so they can flash it and tell the world to 'Kiss It!'. Sort of a NeoTribal rite of passage for those who would be king.
Fred Thompson has shown in the few short weeks since he announced his run for the Presidency that he is worthless as a candidate. This man is the definition of lazy. He acts like he doesn't even care and brings absolutely no enthusiasm to the campaign. It's clear that his wife twisted his arm to run and his heart is not in this race. He may have some good ideas, but who would even care to hear them? At a recent rally, he couldn't even fill the 100 seats in the room and then had to prompt the audience for applause after he finished his speech.
Tell us something we don't know.

Seriously, it's a fricking pin.  A pin does not bestow instant patriotism on the wearer.  And forcing someone to answer to their lapel pin is about as dumb as asking them to explain why they keep their wallet/phone in whichever pocket it's in.  Although I think Guiliani has a lot to answer for about those glasses.
I don't believe Rudy is a fraud, nor do I think that the any of the candidates are worthy of being called the next President of the United States.We need a President that would be proud to be an American, honest, God fearing, and able to stand up and lead the lost souls of these United States the way Roosevelt, and Kennedy did. We need to focus on the American families, American Values and get back to using American made items.We need to limit Immigration, clean up our work places and offer healthcare that is equal and affordable to the working class families of our Nation.If you offered Government funded insurance to all Americans who did not have insurance, that offered healthcare through contracted facilities for a set fee, I think alot of people would be in line to accept the coverage.It is time for all American's to focus on Family life and stop the madness that infiltrates our homes and families and destroys this "Nation under God".It is time to kick the liberal idiots out of office and elect people who support American Families and the working class.We need real Men and Women to stand up at the oval office and remind us all what this Nation stand for and how it began. We need to go back the beginning and follow the steps of our Founding Fathers and make us proud to be an American once again.
Obama is the first dude that has all the right stuff! He's real and knows how to handle adversity. He dosen't go along to get along, like his statement on going into Pakistan to get the dude who started all this jazz of killing folks to make a point! Instead of, I have to see how the winds blowing before I make a decision. He is also black, and therefore knows whats it's like having to prove himself over and over and still be a proud person without feeling sorry for himself. I watch C-Span everyday and see the folks who can talk for 20 minutes and never say anything. As far as the war goes There is so much misinformation I don't know what is up or down and when he becomes president I think I will know whats up and maybe just maybe he would ask me to sarifice something, I'm just a 63 year old male white guy who cares about my country and my children and grandchildren. I don't want them to grow up in a country that say's I'm right and if you don't like it I'll kick your ass!!!
Go Ron Go!!! We are all supporting you!!! Our next President - Ron Paul!!!

People, if you want to end the needless war in iraq and change our direction for the better, vote for Ron Paul.  He is the ONLY candidate financed by the people because he is for the people!!!

RP 2008!!!
are you @#$#ing kidding me?  i know now what the german people must have felt like when "Hitler" was weaving his web...  God help us all...
Not just a fraud, but an idiot as well, did you see his essay in Human events?  What a maroon.

It is funny to see the other candidates start stealing Ron Paul's ideas.  Too bad they don't really mean it.
I'm surprised Rudy doesn't wear a "911" pin.
No, Rudy is not a fraud.  I don't know why you would make such a claim.

To me, a fraud is a multimillionaire who says more must be done to help the poor while not giving their money away to the poor.  The Clintons and John Edwards come to mind.

A fraud, to me, is someone who says the American people must pollute less to save the planet while he flies all over the world in jets so he can make $100k for giving 75 minute speeches like Al Gore.

Those are frauds.  Not Rudy.
I think "IF" Giuliani could force himself to change his own position(s) on abortion & homosexual that he could tie-up the nomination immed. If he does not - he will eventually lose! Even though he is popular, there is a big block that CANNOT accept his position on homosexuality & abortion.
I don't understand why the repubs don't wear $ pins. After all, the almighty dollar is their one true god.
the flag pin flap shows that the rebumplikans are going for the symbol over substance in this election (as usual), shows they have nothing to offer americans. This is a non issue and that is what they do best, make non-issues seem like life or death, flag pins mean nothing, they probably are made in China.
Big Huckabee telling it how it is! He's gained my respect!
Please expand how Rudy is a fraud? Fraud implies he is or has lied about something to cover-up deceit. Please give one example of that. Obviously you are ignorant of his prestigious career as an attorney and the successes he had while mayor of NYC. Beyond 9-11 his effort at "cleaning-up" the city had turned NYC from being a dangerous city to the safest metropolis in America.

If you don't have anything intelligent to comment on then please don't hit the submit button.
After the disastrous Bush administration, it will be many years before Americans elect another Republican to the White House.
Of course Rudy wears the pin!

Unlike some of the Anti-Americans like Hillary and Obama, Rudy does care about America.
Just because George Bush backs aome upopular policies, does not mean the administration is a disaster.  A presidents administration is judged (i real terms at least) by the state of the nation during their presidency.  Iraq may not be popular, but the US is doing just fine in  almost all areas.  Presdent Bush will be remembered for being one of the least popular presidents of the modern era, but he will also be remembered (regardless of opinion, I mean based on the facts) as a very sucessful president.  
GOD for bit if he gets to the office we all will be in royal pain.
http://www.medicalsupplycorner.com
There are more of us Ron Paul supporters than even I could have imagined.  Let's not the mainstream media discourage us.  Ron Paul's message is too strong for them to ignore.
ME Denver said: "Did I understand correctly here?"

From your jingoistic comments, obviously not. Please get a grip and try to understand the difference between pretend patriotism and real patriotism.
Sandie Webb, you have a lot of good points and ideas of what is needed for this country but I think you are dead wrong that liberals are the impediment to achieving your goals. Of course labels can be misleading, maybe what you are looking for are progressives who might be more activist than liberals but I sincerely doubt that the neocon Republicans will get you what you want.
you said it steve--------Bush has left a big stinky odor at the republicans doorstep.and they know it---imagine how the republicans that have stuck to him how they must feel?Aside from being stupid they have gone out of their way to embrace the Bush ignorance and demented brain.
Huckabee! Common sense along with intelligence AND
credibility!  America needs it today worse than ever.
We need to tell everyone about Huckabee.  
Only 44 comments and no Republicans candidates being criticized for not wearing a pin. I win the bet!!! Once again the monumental hypocrisy of the Republicans has been proven.
"A pin? You are wearing a pledge pin on your uniform? " Neidermeyer to Flounder in Animal House
I think the red white and blue flag broach will definitely go with the midnight blue gown, white belt with red shoes. Stunning!
ME Denver I hope you are a rudy supporter because all the other repub candidates showed up without their ritual pins.
Ron Paul is silly

Anyone who advocates AGAINST mandatory vaccination is foolish.

This is one area libertians have the wrong idea...YOUR choice to NOT get vaccinated could kill ME and my Family...or yours

What kind of idiot(Ron Paul) votes in FAVOR of NOT REQUIRING SMALLPOX vaccination for Americans?  This disease isn't HPV or some childhood ailment...Small Pox is a KILLER!

A Vote for Ron Paul is a vote for your kids getting Small Pox!

(Check his website
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/health-freedom/
)--ZP
Larry Craig always wears his pin. I see it in all the newscasts and it is prominent in his police mug shot.


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