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Obama’s energy rollout

Posted: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:59 AM by Domenico Montanaro



From NBC/National Journal’s Aswini Anburajan

Barack Obama attempted to bring a fresh face to an old political issue in Portsmouth, N.H., Monday, proposing a comprehensive energy plan that attempts to combat global warming while ensuring American energy security.

Obama called for an economy-wide cap and trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050 and an investment of $150 billion over the next 10 years to develop new technologies to create sources of renewable energy, advanced biofuels and the safe use of nuclear power. He also called for greater U.S. engagement with the world in combating climate change, and spoke of the importance of individual responsibility in reducing energy consumption, saying that he would even sign a ban on incandescent light bulbs.

The plan received praise from the League of Conservation Voters for embracing a mandatory cap-and-trade program for carbon emissions, a step that his chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Clinton, has not advocated.

But in his remarks, Obama also skated a fine line between the history of U.S. energy policy and the ability of political leaders to pass comprehensive energy reform; between his criticism of the role energy lobbyists played in the Bush energy bill and his vote for that bill.

His speech opened with a nod to that history, by showing a montage of every president since Richard Nixon, all promising to reduce American dependence on foreign oil.

Obama blamed not only the power of the energy lobbyists in Washington interests in Washington for stymieing energy reforms but also the politicians that allowed that system to continue to exist.

“I know that change makes good campaign rhetoric, but when these same people had the chance to actually make change happen, they didn’t lead,” Obama said. “When they had the chance to stand up and require automakers to raise their fuel standards, they refused. When they had multiple chances to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by investing in renewable fuels that we can literally grow right here in America, they said no.”

His remark was both an attack against politics as usual in Washington and also a veiled reference to Clinton, who voted against raising average corporate fuel economy standards and tax breaks for ethanol producers.

But even though Obama takes broad swipes at Washington with a special-interest tar brush, even he gets somewhat spattered when it comes to the energy industry. Obama is a strong supporter of the Illinois coal industry, and has received thousands of dollars from lobbyists for the energy industry and employees of energy companies, according to the FEC.

In 2005, he voted for the Bush energy bill, which he vigorously criticizes on the stump, accusing the administration of meeting with conservation and environmental groups only once but meeting with the oil industry 40 times.

Obama’s support for the Bush energy bill brought $40 million to Illinois to help its burgeoning ethanol industry, $1 billion to allow diesel engines to be retrofitted to reduce air pollution and another $85 million for Illinois universities to research how to turn Illinois basin coal into transportation fuels, according to an article in the Peoria Star Journal at the time.

To his credit, Obama addressed his vote in his speech and justified it on the grounds that it provided support for renewable energy.

 “I even voted for an energy bill that was far from perfect,” Obama said, “because I was able to ensure that it contained some real investments in renewable sources of energy.”

Obama added that he fought to keep tax breaks for energy companies out of that bill.

Obama did not openly call for increasing coal production in his speech, but he did say, “We must find a way to stop coal from polluting our atmosphere without pretending that our nation’s most abundant energy source will just go away. It won’t.”  

He pledged to rely on a carbon cap to stop new dirty coal plants from being built and a ban on new traditional coal facilities. Obama’s energy proposals come at an opportune time. At nearly every campaign stop in Iowa last week, voters asked about what Obama would do to reduce American dependence on foreign oil and help combat global warming. His proposals may help him gain traction with voters who are concerned about the issue, especially small farmers in Iowa who would benefit from his push for greater ethanol production.

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Only some of his points are truly worth embracing. The carbon caps, etc. are helpful in terms of slowing things down but it's a band aid at best.

But "safe" use of nuclear power? Has he magically solved the nuclear waste storage problem? Did he forget that that the Seabrook, N.H. nuclear plant is just a few miles away? He's probably too young to remember the intense demonstrations and protests against that plant in the 70's. Also his  support for the coal industry seems like politics as usual.

Is he better than the worst Republicans on climate control. Yes. Is his stance worth getting excited about? NO!
Emily - Obama is currently trying to stop smoking and has not smoked for a couple of months now.  
C'mon, folks, wake up!  You won't need to worry your little heads if Obama is elected our Pres.  You won't have a head left after the Muslims get through with you!
Wind energy is the future provided they manage to somehow STORE the energy they generate. That's why Obama is advocating for RESEARCH...

Ethanol is a special interest game and I'm not decided about coal.

Once again Obama LEADS with a plausible and congress-friendly plan
If Obama wants to limit global warming while helping coal companies, why does he not propose giving carbon caps to energy companies, allowing them to produce 5% less each year? …. The result would be more competition from utilities for the restricted coal supplies, higher electricity (gas and petrol) prices, and very much higher incomes for the owners of the carbon caps.   … This is of course the problem with any cap program where caps are given to some industries: The industries make windfall profits from the use or sale of the caps. …  The windfall profits can be avoided by selling (auctioning) caps to industries. …  What to do with the income from selling caps?  Why not return it to citizens (specifically registered voters) though a monthly Energy Dividend?  Citizens pay more for fossil-based electricity (and gas and petrol), but get a check to offset this.  Those who manage to reduce their use of fossil fuels would benefit those who don’t would be under financial pressure to do so.  For full details apply to the undersigned
Heather - who should pay the cost if not the "consumer?" The animals? The atmosphere? Santa Claus?  Come on, people!  Can we for once get real and start realizing that we live on a finite planet with finite resources and it has all been a wonderful gift? If we don't get our act together it's going to come crashing down in less than 100 years.
Cap and trade is a boondoggle that will only benefit the emitters and brokers, whilst costing all of us a fortune. It won't decrease energy use--it hasn't in europe
Obama would make perfect VP for Al Gore.  Recently saw Gore present his "Inconvenient Truth" in Denver and he was significantly thinner than he appeared months ago.  Don't see how a Gore/Obama ticket could be beat. Which duo could run more convincingly as the candidates for real,inspired, breath-taking change?  Which would be more popular with both the base and the independents who  hanker after real change, not politics as usual with careful nibbling around the edges?  Both were also on the right side of the war from day one.  What more could Dems want for 2008?
August 2007 Update: Manmade Catastrophic Global Warming Not True.
In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge.  Please do your own homework, a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/ and Flawed NASA Global Warming data paid for by George Soros.
Barack Obama sets a very high bar regarding the safe use of nuclear power, and that's the sensible way to approach it. He is committed to addressing our serious environmental problems, and I'm increasingly concerned that we'll soon be forced to recognize this as our primary challenge.

I see in Barack Obama someone who knows we're not going to get there as long as we continue to think in terms of Us vs. Them. We're going to have to start bringing out the best in each other, and that means people and industry working together for shared goals.

While we fiddle with trivial disagreements, "Rome" burns. We need to share a vision of the future that begins to really make sense, and believe we can achieve it. I like hearing someone who thinks that way, and can get it done. I like Barack Obama's chances for helping us to turn this thing around.
Obama said one thing that is accurate...there is no silver bullet for our energy problems. Mainly because people are not willing to drive slower, turn the lights off in unoccupied rooms, etc. Americans are also highly susceptible to marketing. For example the recent craze about "bio fuels" being "greener". People need to quit watching Homer Simpson and pick up a book. ANY type of combustion creates greenhouse gas (i.e. carbon dioxide). The basic products of perfect, efficient combustion are water vapor and carbon dioxide. That's physics. Burning vegetable oil in a diesel engine produces just as much CO2 as burning diesel fuel.

Comments posted on sites like this provide evidence that democracy is a failing experiment in government. People vote for emotional reasons, not based on logic. The political process utilizing glitzy video clips and sound bites is designed specifically because politicians and their handlers understand how little the facts actually matter.

Obama is honest??? How in the heck would anyone know? We see what they want us to see.
Only some of his points are truly worth embracing. The carbon caps, etc. are helpful in terms of slowing things down but it's a band aid at best. We need more bold and radical action now.

But "safe" use of nuclear power? Has he magically solved the nuclear waste storage problem? Did he forget that that the Seabrook, N.H. nuclear plant is just a few miles away? He's probably too young to remember the intense demonstrations and protests against that plant in the 70's. Also his  support for the coal industry seems like politics as usual.

Is he better than the worst Republicans on climate control. Yes. Is his stance worth getting excited about? NO!
RH Oregon - Yes, Senator Obama was a smoker.  He now says that he has quit, at the urging of his wife and, I imagine, since this country hasn't elected a smoker (of tobacco) since Eisenhower.

I hardly think it establishes anything other than the fact that he is a real person, and real people are occasionally addicted to unhealthy things.  You know, like President Clinton and McDonalds.  At least he wasn't getting arrested for cocaine possession when he had two young children at home, like a certain President we know!

Piousness isn't a very useful Presidential quality, in my opinion.

Obamas jive is the same as everyone elses. The key point to observe here is that the 800 pd.gorilla of fossil fuels is still sitting in the room. Banning incandescents won't get the job done. Neither will allowing tens of millions to cross our borders creating tens of millions more in progeny and then believing that somehow an environmental handle can be placed upon immigration and controlled. Politicians will always opt for the feelgood,instant approach regardless of party. The reality is much differant. Take CAFE standards for automobiles. The Senate passed these with bi-partisan support. In the House,it is Democrats who are blocking these standards ensuring that automakers will get no closer to a ''green''day than any other industry. Enviros do not want coal,nor nuclear,nor fossil. Yet their own solutions are ridiculous in their puny impact upon global warming. And using vehicles that even liberal Democrats[such as those along the eastern seaboard],do not even want,such as windfarms. Solar power is touted as end-all be-all for the same hopeful reasons,but with results that they simply are not addressing,such as high rain and cloud areas of the nation,long winters,installation cost,their use of quite dangerous chemicals inside panels,and even should all of America get on board,retrofitting and even new installation in such a manner as would have real impact on fossil fuel dependance would take decades,even longer.
              Americans will not wait even one month. Back in summer,when gas prices were approaching[and in some cases exceeding],four dollars a gallon,even for this short two month period,food prices skyrocketed and businesses across the nation were closing in on temporary layoffs at a minimum,while lawmakers squawked and did nothing.[including Obama,Clinton,Guliani and all the rest].
         Almost certainly,it will get worse,far worse,before it gets better and no,no one ideology or political party is leading the way here,including Obama who would find himself blocked by the same environmental interests that be not be belied until America howls and says,enough.[4.50$ p/g and higher will begin this backlash].
What is it with you people and the smoking?  Of all the crap we have to face right now, and this is your main voting criterion?  Yes, he smoked.  Past tense.  So did I.  Like me, and like almost every other smoker, he took it up as a teen when he thought he was immortal, was judgment impaired (that's the definition of being a teenager, remember?) and wanted to be rebellious and bad.  By the time he grew up and realized he wasn't immortal, he was hooked.  The problem with being a nicotine addict is that the craving is unbearable, the fix is easily available and the social sanctions are minimal compared to, say, shooting up or driving down the road with a quart of bourbon.  That's how it works.  That's why the cigarette companies are still in business.  

So cut the man (and the rest of us who fight every single day to keep from lighting up because we had a week of stupidity when we were kids) some freaking slack and judge him on the basis of his positions and leadership.  
Here is a substantive summary of the plan. It is by far the best summary of the speech that I have seen so far:

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/NEWS81/710090084
League of Conservation Voters rates Obama higher than even Kucinich  Here's an article by them on Obama's Energy Plan:
http://www.lcv.org/newsroom/press-releases/page.jsp?itemID=36430548
They like his energy plans.  No one has a magic wand.  New sources of energy cost $ and step on Big Oil's toes.  Nuclear power has drawbacks.  Even the new light bulbs create a mercury hazard.
What we need is someone who has the leadership to get the best plans implemented.  That can only be done by someone who is diplomatic but not afraid to say it like it is, not just what we want to hear.  
By the way, Obama is trying hard to quit smoking, I think he said (joking)that his wife is most influential in making him quit.
Obama is our best choice. He has proved brave enough to say what may be unpopular, and is an inspirational and wise leader.
CAN MSNBC explain why they always use the word
"attempted" when they are reporting on obama??
Obama did not attempt! He laid out the best energy plan there is!

DO the other candidates also attempt or do they just do it?
Obama didn't put his real energy solution on the table. When we can't afford heat and lights, at least the women will be warm in there burkas reading the koran at home by tallow candle light.
I don't get what the big deal is about nuclear reactor waste. People are behind the times. Hasn't anyone heard of depleted uranium ammunition? We can get rid of all the waste in Iraq.
"True Believer", do you think up those comments all by yourself? Momma would be so proud of you!

"Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don't know and I don't care."
-- Jimmy Buffett

Uh...This article is wrong. Clinton does support cap and trade:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/energy/

hopefully they check this enough to update
Dawn of Jackson Hole, Wyoming, you think it's possible for the entire population of, say, Chicago to "power down a bit" or "be responsible for producing the energy" they use every day?  I'm sorry, that's simply not feasible.  It might be in rural America, but the vast majority of our population doesn't live in places like Jackson Hole, Wyoming.  

I think banning incandescent bulbs won't hurt anyone and will reduce electrical consumption.  Similiar improvements in air conditioning technology are desperately needed, as the South uses a LOT of electricity just keeping their homes bearable in the summers.  

Nuclear power is our best hope for now.  No reason Yucca Mountain shouldn't continue, other than knee jerk left wing eco-nuts.  Sorry folks, you might think "going back to the land" is a dandy idea, but there are 260 million or so of us in the U.S.A. and hunter-gatherer tribalism just isn't really on the table for an energy policy.
kelly , Where is the substance, where is the proof . ideal, what you call slander.
Is Obama E-OK ?
Don Samantic WA,
I can tell you're a good liberal by your partial quote of Buffet's words so you could use them out of context to suit your needs. The song goes:

"Is it ignorance or apathy, I forget these lessons taught to me, some say life isn't fair, Hey I don't know, I don't care"

The entire quote is very fitting for the subject. Libs obviously have forgotten both their history and science lessons. The history for the political perspective and the science for the energy debate issues.

Also very fitting for me, life isn't going to be fair for the burka crowd. But I'm old and don't have a daughter, so "I don't care"

So when they taught you how to twist words in the commie boot camp did they also teach you how to recover when you happen to spew your propaganda out to someone who is knowledgeable on the subject?


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