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Fred: I am the conservative candidate

Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:18 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
It appears that Thompson will add his voice to the dust-up over which GOP presidential candidate best represents conservatives when he addresses the Conservative Party of New York tonight. "Some think the way to beat the Democrats in November is to be more like them," he will say, per excerpts released by his campaign. "I could not disagree more. I believe that conservatives beat liberals only when we challenge their outdated positions, not embrace them."

Thompson will go to say, "This is not a time for philosophical flexibility, it is a time to stand up for what we believe in. I spent eight years in Washington fighting for smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, and conservative judges. With me, what you see is what you get. I was a proud conservative yesterday, I remain one today, and I will be one tomorrow. Together we can carry the conservative banner all the way to the White House and I am asking for your help."

The AP adds that these remarks are aimed squarely at front-runner Giuliani. "He doesn't mention Giuliani's name ..., but he's clearly trying to draw a contrast with the rival who's leading in national Republican polls. Giuliani was once a Democrat. Unlike Thompson, the New Yorker backs abortion rights and gay rights. And, the ex-mayor's central argument for Republicans to nominate him is that he gives them the most likely shot to win in the general election."

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"I spent eight years in Washington fighting for smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, and conservative judges. "

You spent 8 years in Washington with your feet on your desk, you lying old sack.
snore snore snooze zzzzz what huh! Fred who?
He's a phony is what he is....he drives his limo to his red pick up truck and drives the final mile to an event in the truck, and then calls himself a down home truck driving kind of guy.
Thompson's own staff said he was bored with his job.  But, he loved to hang out in expensive Washington restaurants and bars, being wined and dined by his real constituants, the lobbiests and their corporate clients.  Meanwhile he did nothing for the middle class people of Tennessee.  But, he did fight for the tax breaks for the wealthy, who represent about one tenth of one per cent of the population and about two tenths of one per cent of the republicans.  So, the other 99.8 per cent of republicans are basically dupes.

But, these fools like him because he is an actor like Reagan.  And, like Reagan he likes to take long afternoon naps.  Also, like Reagan he is showing signs of mental deterioration. But, unlike Reagan, if he gets the nomination, he hasn't got a prayer of winning in the general election.  People aren't fooled anymore.  Well, except for a handful of dead-enders who post on this site.
When exactly were you a conservative Fred? Was it when you were a paid lobbyist for the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association, a pro abortion firm? Or was it when you "advised" the Libyan terrorists who blew up Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie Scotland? Or how about when you got your girlfriend pregnant? Or maybe when you divorced your first wife and married a woman the same age as your eldest daughter? Just exactly when have you shown that you are a conservative Fred? By claiming that you are, you are showing that your "Values" and "beliefs" can be bought and sold for the highest dollar no matter who or what your clientele happens to be... Just like any other whore walking the street in Washington.
"I could not disagree more. I believe that conservatives beat liberals only when we challenge their outdated positions, not embrace them."

Hmmm, if republicans are conservative and democrats are progressive, which one of these parties has out-dated positions?  I think you got that flipped there Freddy "the good ol' boy" Thompson.
Yes, obviously his inability to gather further support will only bolster the movement toward Giuliani by the rest of the Republican Party.
"Dead Thompson" should go into business selling beds. Either that, or he should go into hypno-therapy.
None of those hypocrites can claim true conservative credentials unless they can show me their statements and votes opposing the record spending, record deficits, foreign war making, constitution shredding, and growth of big brother government over the last 6 years. So far I've heard none of faux true conservatives tout that record. Ron Paul of course is the exception.
Nominate Fred please! Pretty, pretty please..

I am a Democrat and I think he would be a sure looser.
I lived in Tennessee when Thompson supposedly represented the people of the state. Never saw him or heard anything positive about him. He is just another actor politician, paid to speak for the highest bidder.

The only real conservative in the race is Ron Paul, but he doesn't interest the media, so we don't hear too much about him. The media has already declared Guiliani and Thompson their darlings along with Clinton and Obama. Apparently, having more than two candidates vying for their party's nomination is too much trouble!!!
Nice try Fred, but the only real conservative in this race is Ron Paul!  He is the only one that will receive my vote.
"You spent 8 years in Washington with your feet on your desk, you lying old sack."

ROFLMAO!

Thompson is the George P. Bush "compassionate conservatives'" wet dream, an actor who lies for them, not for constitutionalist conservatism.  As usual, they miss that the fire comes from believing in your message, not from delivering it.
Giuliani Spent $13 Million in Quarter,
Keeps $11.6 Million for Primaries
Associated Press
October 15, 2007 11:33 a.m.

WASHINGTON -- Republican Rudy Giuliani spent $13 million between July and September, his biggest spending quarter yet as he positioned himself as his party's presidential front-runner.

Mr. Giuliani raised $11.4 million during the quarter, with about $10 million of it available to spend on his contest for the Republican nomination, according to a report filed Monday with the Federal Election commission. His campaign listed a total of $16.6 million cash on hand, $11.6 million available for the primaries."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119245423548859173.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Rudy's, "burn rate", exceeded 100% (13-11.4 mil.)for the quarter, though he still has a good bankroll available.


Van
Thank you so much, Fred.  It's been a long time since I've fallen off my chair laughing.

Seriously, "liberals" are progressive.  That means we look forward, trying to fix things that need it.  Conservatives look back.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."  Reasonable enough... except they also cling to things that are working even though we've shown they can work *better*.

Fix things--don't just do things 'cause that's how they've always been done.  Vote for a liberal.  Remember how the conservatives hated Clinton for his liberal policy of raising taxes on the rich?  Guess what.  Most of them made an absolute KILLING, because when the common folk have more to spend, everyone profits, even the rich.  When the rich have more money to spend, the rich benefit.  

That's how liberals work.  Everyone benefits.  Conservatives just want things to remain the same so they don't have to find new ways to exploit the system they know so well.
Fred, you give me and others "a reason TO vote" for Hillary. She doesn't scare me anymore, you do.
Hate to say it but Fred is a dud - very boooring!!  There's no fire, no spark at all. Ironically, Arthur Branch, Manhattan's TV District Attorney, is going to get eaten alive by real New Yorker's, namely Hilary or Rudy.
You got my Vote!  Go Fred!!!  
I don't think this country can take four more years of conservatives.
God, lets hope this guy doesn't make it; when it comes to being a 'puppet' for others, his history demonstrates a total commitment for taking direction, following a script and getting whatever others will give him and that surely isn't meant just as a pun on his acting career.  He may not be as aggressive, arrogant and obnoxious as George, even offering more poise, but he is just as likely to be controlled and focused on benefiting Special Interests and a select few while again giving the majority the subterfuge, apathy and costs.  He is just as apt to again do whatever is easiest and provides him the most; 'more of the same'.
Listen to all the bellyaching welfare loving Stalinist Democrats. The only reason you have to attack Fred Thompson is because you know your left-wing c r a p is doomed. If you want a free handout go stand in the soup line that Hitlery created for your sorry lazy ilk.
Federal handouts are doomed you brainless morons.
Fred is a nobody in this race.  He was so bored to be at the debates.  He just didn't care and his answers and stance prove it.  The man has absolutely nothing to offer the presidency of this country.  He isn't even a half-way decent actor.  Have you seen Baby's Day Out?
<<I don't think this country can take four more years of conservatives.>>


You'll take it, and you'll like it!
You democrats need to nominate Al (mr. internet) gore so the votes will be taken away from stupid hilly - what a god awful voice she has.
You democrats need to nominate Al (mr. internet) gore so the votes will be taken away from stupid hilly - what a god awful voice she has.
I agree with Gomez, north of me in this forum and geographically.

Here we are, taking cheap shots at "Empty Suit" Thompson just because we subsidized him as a senator for 8 years. Shame on us for foisting our doomed left wing crap and collective barbs at his expense. If we're going to do this, it should be with someone who can, at least, fog a mirror.
I'll tell you what is sad: Calling liberals "progressives"  

At this point Fred gets my vote.  Since I would rather have my testes pounded flat with a wooden mallet than give more power to the Democrats
ANYBODY CAN BEAT HILARY, YEAH  NOMINATE HILARY.
"Listen to all the bellyaching welfare loving Stalinist Democrats. The only reason you have to attack Fred Thompson is because you know your left-wing c r a p is doomed. If you want a free handout go stand in the soup line that Hitlery created for your sorry lazy ilk.
Federal handouts are doomed you brainless morons. "


Besides your thoughtful arguments, irrifutable facts and intelligent insight, they're the party of hate, too. Thanks for sharing, Gomez.
"<<I don't think this country can take four more years of conservatives.>>


You'll take it, and you'll like it! "


I dare say "the country" includes Maryland, doesn't it? Or has that changed?
Fred, Rudy, Mitt, or Ron..Any of these guys have my vote. The democrat party seems to have been hijacked by a bunch of far, far to the left wingnuts.
Fred should be commended for being a purist, instead of the other candidates who keeps pandering to every interest groups there is in Washington. It is time to shut up the gays and baby killers, as well as the polygamists lovers. Guiliani is nothing but a quack doctor who tries to sell medicine but who does not believe in them himself. Romney is a two-faced idiocrat who will be the potent loser for the conservatives. As for the Democrats, especially Hillary, they dream of a nation of people with loose morals, abortionists, gay lovers, illegal immigrant coddlers and religion haters.
Better Fred than them.
Let’s see, looks like R Paul people filled 80% of the comments by posing as democrats... maybe they are.  Losers can't see the difference of someone who refused to pass and create bills that increase govt and the rhetoric of "they were great" because they saddled us with more govt agencies.

Thompson IS the most conservative... consistently.  To give a little credit, Ron Paul at least has the correct views of government but he will never poll competitively because his supporters have made him out to be the crazy one.  He should go back to running as a libertarian and let the adults talk.
This country has seen some very dark days (maybe years) under President Bush. Its time that the republican party returns to its morals that brought it so much success. We cannot continue on this path. The democrats have no plan, end of story. Hillary should run for president of France. Let her ruin someone elses country. A liberal is a liberal. She is one, face it! I believe we deserve better. What good have the democrats done in the last year? Really, what have they done? Good luck finding an answer....
I spent some time reading these comments and just noticed that most of 'em are from liberals and democrats who obviously favors Rudy to get the Republican Party nomination. Why?, Is that how scared they are of Fred.
The Democrat party is no longer democratic.
It has become the Socalist party.
The Republican party has sold out to big business.
Our country is doomed unless
we elect true conseratives that are true patriots.

Well Gomez and Fester, it heartens me to see that the Adams Family trolls together hand-in-hand.
Democrats SUCK, you anti-gun hating pig's. Take my 2nd amendmant right away and go to hell with me.
Man, all this pointing fingers makes me sick. When are you all going to wake up and realize it's not about democrats, republicans,liberals or conservatives and this "I'm better than you attitude." We are all AMERICANS! Stop isolating each other and work for real change! With the exception of Ron Paul, there isn't a candidate in the bunch who isn't a puppet in the hands of the elite. If you haven't heard of him, do some research before you fall for the "Media Purchased" candidates you see over and over again! Ron Paul is the real deal!
--Gomez--

Since when are American Democrats Stalinists?

Have you ever worked with the poor? With a man who just lost his job, and has a family to feed? A solid employee who you've known most of your life, whose tears fall on the forms as he chokes on them. Shame on top of shame as others see him there, in that shape. But they, too, are there either to help someone in need, or to ask for help, no jobs, no one hiring.

Hillary created soup lines? More power to her! How many have you helped to find a hot meal on a cold night? Have you ever given your coat to the Salvation Army man ringing his bell, trying to help someone else, in the freezing rain? When was the last time you gave your food to the homeless living under a bridge? Just what makes you so much better than them that you can sling mud at someone for Trying to help?

Federal handouts are doomed you brainless morons

It doesn't take a lot of brains to see people enraged by knowing their tax dollars might go to help someone get in from the cold, while millions are being spent on war, leaving more out of a home.

You anger me and make me want to call you a brainless moron.

My Mother died with breast cancer. My mother worked hard with my Dad. They were cabinet-makers. My parents Always had time, or would make the time, would go far out of their way, to help anyone in need. Whatever it was, if it was within their means. If it was outside of their means, they'd find someone who could help. They put cabinets in homes for free, for people who needed them. My mother died with breast cancer because my parents were over-worked and under-insured. She lived with it for ten years without telling my Dad, so he wouldn't worry about not having enough insurance. When my Dad found out, within a month he was dead--died of a massive heart attack. They had done Everything together for over twenty years. My Dad couldn't bear life without my Mother.

My parents worked hard. They paid their taxes. They paid to have help when they might need help. The cost of living far exceeded the amount finally received, for all they'd paid in for so many years.

Be very careful Mr.Gomez. You are skating on very thin ice tempting fate the way you do. We may never see you with a ladel in a soup-line, but you may come in on the other end of it. You may eat your hateful words.
So Barcalounger Fred is getting off his lazy ass and making some appearances and statements again? Hey repubs, keep backing this guy.
Stalinists spy on their own people, Stalinists attack countries based on ideological principles, Stalininsts ignore the rule of law in favor of a leader that never is wrong. Sounds like George Bush to me.
Ca’mon people, stick to talking about the politicians; when we get on each other it is simply a defense mechanism that exposes that we have nothing pertinent to say.  Everyone has one vote and their own opinion with both being just as valid as everyone else’s.
Man this is about on the same level as Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole, et. al, and all the rest in Whispering Glades, USA.
He Marcus, considering Fred's got about as good a chance of being the republican nominee as Dennis Kuschinich has being the democrat and the only 2 choices appear to be quack doctor Guiliani or two-faced idiocrat Romney, since no normal, intelligent republican w/ a snowball in hell's chance of winning wants to be associated enough w/ the your party to even run, you'd better start packing those bags for Canada, cause most of the country will take ANY democrat over a republican after the last 6 years.
MarcuAurelius,

Fred took money to represent a pro-abortion group and to consult in representing suspected terrorists.  With apologies to William Shakespear, A purist should be made of purer stuff.
Fred and the rest of the Republican crowd running for Prez are more primitive than conservative.  Hasn't the country had enough of this drivel for the past 7 years under Mr. Compassionate Conservative, GW Bush?  The only compassion he's been capable of is making sure his buddies at Blackwater are well compensated and unsupervised.  Funny how no spending bill was too large or too generous under the Republican Congress, but now every bill that finds it's way to his empty desk is bound for a veto.  Fred and Co. only hope to continue the disastrous policies he and they so much admire in GW.  


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