bush, lying and blameing everyone else on his fornicating ups was pathetic, but then so is bush.

bush should be impeached for CHILD ABUSE for keeping sick kids sick, thats child abuse plain and simple.  When parents don't take their sick or hurt kids for medical attention, they either get the kids taken away or go to jail or both, why not the same for 'THE CHILD ABUSER BUSH'?

The Democratic Majority in Congress was elected by the people of this country to provide an alternative to 12 years worth of draconian republiCANT rule.
So far, Mr. Bush, and republiCANT leftovers in the House and Senate have worked overtime to surpress the will of The American People and obstruct The Democratic agenda.
Its' too bad that republiCANTS put loyalty to their party in front of loyalty to the voters, and too bad they put thier party's political agenda ahead of service to the country and its' needs.

Bush is as usual playing politics. Congress would have a lot more to show for their time, if he was more willing to work with the party in power. Historically we have had productive partnerships in times of divided government- Clinton learned to work with Newt Gingrich, Reagan worked well with Tip O' Neill. Bush gives lip service to compromise, then skewers the Democrats if they don't give in to all of his demands. If he met them halfway, they would get more done. The president only recently remembered that he is supposed to be a fiscal conservative, having never vetoed a pork-laden spending bill while his own party was in the majority. His veto of SCHIP, however, will likely backfire on the GOP in '08, as the popular bill has the support of 80% of Americans, despite Bush's studied efforts to paint it as socialized medicine.

At this point it's always necessary to point out that the Democratic Congress can't get anything passed because the Republicans have mounted an organized effort to block EVERYTHING that passes by a simple majority.  In fact Mitch McConnell said before the session even started that the strategy would be to make everything pass the Senate by 60 votes.  Yesterday I couldn't spell obstructionist and now I are one.

Those darn people who want health care are going to ruin our economy. We need more money for war, we need more tax cuts for the oil industry, we need more rich people drinking and driving to their favorite watering hole to meet their friends the papparazi. Death to people who can't reach the level of profit making we other americans got from feeding as the public trough. BAh HUMBUG, LET THEM EAT CAKE! From your friend THE AMERICAN TALIBAN.

Bush and the republicans hate children and want all the sick ones without healthcare to go away quietly and just freakin' die...nothing can get in the way of war, tax cuts and corporate profits...

Bush is a dangerous, deranged idiot. I think his mental state and his capacity to remain in office is in question.

The veto of this bill has nothing to do with fiscal conservatism; it's all about Bush trying to show he still has some power and protecting the medical insurance companies and HMOs.  If there ever was an issue to show "compassionate conservatism" this is it.  Of course, just like everything else Bush claimed to be before he got elected and the things he has done since have all been based on lies and deceit; why should this be any different.  I know the diehards who voted for this moron will all make up some excuse to defend his actions but, then again, I have hope that even in the deepest and darkest recesses of their minds, they know they screwed up.

If President Bush is to be impeached for child abuse
Nancy Pelosi should be impeached for impersonating a speaker of the house.

And there is Charles Rangel, threatening the republicans on the floor of the house about the SCHIP vote......
Using federal tax money to have a media building named at NYU after himself, that should be enough to impeach Rangel on charges of using federal funding for personal gain......

Maybe if the democrats gave back all the money they used for their own self interests, maybe they could fund SCHIP.  Until Congress gets rid of all the earmarks (which they never will), everybody can cry about the CHILDREN all they want.  But as we all know, government does not work in the health system.

Personally If I was President, I would have signed it.
That way, when the tobacco taxes didn't fully fund the program and the democrats came back for more taxes, I would have said "you asked for it, you taxed it, you failed"  No more money. In fact I would have given the democrats everything.

As I have learned in life....
the more rope you give someone.....
the easier it is to hang them!

"Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey said yesterday at his confirmation hearing “that he rejects legal theories that presidents have the constitutional power to bypass anti-torture statutes, and vowed to keep the Justice Department free from political influence. Mukasey's answers drew an enthusiastic response from members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.”



Watch Jesus's representative on Earth, Lord Holy Flying Monkey's Ass,  pull his nomination.

Bush and Cheney have all the free health care they will ever need.  Why should they care about anyone else?

Right on Kim- You hit the nail right on the head. Throughout my 47 years I never seen it so bad and partisan. The Gop have chosen the slash/burn mentality and have taken party loyalty  too such a frightening level of a non-democratic/constitutional country bordering on fascism which is a hell of alot more scarier than the so-called Islamofascists.

Robert C-Right on; however; the diehards are like  functioning alcoholics they mostly never admit they have a drinking problem. Bush is an example of a dry drunk who claimed he never went to meetings but stopped at 40 when he found the lord. YEAH!

At $80,000.00 a year you can afford health ins. Lets help the people that need it not just play politics. Surley you people understand whats going on???

$50,000 is more then enough to get good decent care.
If you need more, I would suggest a career change and find a job with health insurance......

It also goes to show you are going to have a tough time convincing liberals to choose between their children and that flat screen TV on sale at Best Buy.

Hmmm, never any mention that in 7 states, the number of adults covered by this program is the majority of participants? Now this expansion would push more people off of private insurance and onto this program?

If I were a small business owner, I'd be all over my rep to support this atrocity which has NOTHING to do with children.  If there is a limited amount that states get, I'd rather see it actually cover children who need it rather than adults.

Kim, I agree.  My dad (74) told us he had never in his lifetime disliked a POTUS as much as he did Bush.  A true leader inspires others to follow him by setting a good example, not running roughshod over co-equal branches of the government.   A true leader learns to work well with others, even when they disagree.  When Bush speaks of bi-partisanship, he really means "do as I say or else".

BTW, Rick in winston-salem just passed juan in ft lauderdale as the most deranged, unable to see reality poster on the web today.

Lets think, the $80,000 figure applied only in New York City where the poverty line is higher than almost anyplace in the country, and even at that the New York state treasury was going to kick in additional state funding to go above and beyond the federal program.  Since the GOP is all about states rights this should be there perogative, but the Bush administration is already instituting new rules to prevent any state from going above the federal level.  Even if the state is willing to pay the difference.  So you can see the $80,000 number is just inflammatory rhetoric.  Oh, and several states are already planning to challenge the new rules in court.  At least they're trying to do something to represent their constituents instead of the insurance companies.

lets think- read the actual bill- only New York was allowed to ask for a waiver of income limits allowing that amount. Bush turned them down, so the $80,000 number is just part of a misinformation campaign put out by the White House and its allies in Congress and the media. The actual bill is available on C-span's website if you care to check it out.

Let's think, a report released Yesterday in the Sacramento Bee says "a family of four with two working parents needs a yearly income of $72,343 just to cover living expenses...  This is the state average.  So, it is conceivable in some places, my friend, like the Bay Area, Los Angeles and other large cities where $80,000 may not be enough to live on.  Of course, I known this in inconceivable to folks living in other places but it is true.

Jerry - Are you going to hire all of these people?  If it is so easy to get a better career, don't you think people would do it?  

Parents should not be forced into bankruptcy and impoverishment to keep their kids healthy.  That's not a choice any parent should have to make.

Jerry- The fact is you have no idea what you are talking about considering you are all about name calling (Liberal this/that) and right wing talking points. I work in the hlthcare field and know for a fact that for example a family of four where the husband makes 50,000 a year, wife stays at home with two small kids and bingo a castatrophic illness occurs with one of them. First, a deductible has to be met which can be as high as thousands of dollars, co-pay, and than the hmo can come back and deny coverage due to some bogus pre-existing conditions that had nothing to do with the illness and everything to do w/greed.Now they are bankrupt.<<Liberals choose between flat screen t.v's and hlthcare for children> Jerry you are truly a piece of work and Neo-cons are laughing all the way to the bank that chumps like you fed into their bull hook line and sinker.

Now that the bill has been defeated, let's get back to the drawing board and use some common sense this time.

Juan, you are just so full of it.....
you are a typical liberal that has fallen for the greatest liberal trap door ever invented.....
has it ever occured to you that this is your money that you are going to give to people who can afford health insurance and that lazy bum will get insurance due to your hard work?  Smokers who think they are going to get insurance are just as gullible.  Thinking they are goiong to get insurance, they are actually buying their insurance by smoking themselves silly.  If there is anybody who deserves the SCHIP is the smokers.  After all, they are the one's paying for it.  Are you paying for SCHIP Juan?

Lisa:

A true leader inspires others to follow their lead by setting a good example?
There are a lot of women who would follow Bill Clinton and take Monica's place......

It is because of demagoging, like on this issue that we are screwed no matter who gets to be next president. the number one issue facing this country (sorry wingnuts) is Social Security and Medicare. It's broken and in need of a radical fix, which it'll not receive until AARP and the Dems quit trying to play it for political points and quit kicking the can down the road and solve the issue. Some combination of benefit cuts, tax increases, private accounts and eligibility changes MUST take place, or the economy will seize up.

John B:

Now there is an idea that no one has thought of...

keep the SCHIP as it is......
let the states decide how much to add to the program..

If New York gets it's share of SCHIP funding from the federal government, if they need extra money to put in it, let the people of New York accept a tax on tobacco and add to the fund.  I'm sure the democrats would howl about spending it's own money in their state, but this would test the democrats if they are serious about funding SCHIP or is this a Nancy Pelosi style dream.

Maybe I should run for president:

The troops would be home in a year.....
The Afgan/Pakistan border would be a new practice area for our bombers.....
Taxes would be lower.....
people would be happier....
the border would be sealed.....
Sanctuary cities would recieve no federal funding...
Illegals would get a one year chance to get out and then we would round them up.....
More jobs would be available......

damn, I good....

I better slap myself awake......

Whether the topic is Children's Healthcare, Healthcare in general, Immigration Reform, the War in Iraq, etc., etc., etc....Whereever you turn, this country and our chosen leaders are in gridlock. Ergo, we as a nation are at a complete standstill.

But, then again, if you look at who "we" have chosen to lead us, is it any wonder? The Bush's and Cheney's on one hand and Pelosi's, Reid's on the other, they're all selfish incompetents, apparently so weak administratively that the peter principle is too far past to even be applicable....or even more disconcerting and sinister, they use their offices for capital gain, more than not, coveting special interest groups at a price that the rest of us, as a nation,have to pay.....Then, as normal course, if confronted with issues, they point the finger at the opposing party as the dark and evil culprit.

We as a nation had better stop with the, Red and Blue BS, and become American's again. A people that hold our politicians, all of them, to higher standards, or get their collective posteriors out of office.....No more of Hillary's, "I'm not going to answer that question", or Bush inane approach at governing, side stepping issues, because of among other things his "executive privilidge".....

These are people the WE VOTED INTO OFFICE, that seemingly have taken this privilidge as a license to turn their backs on their consituency, place themselves above the law and pay little or no consequence for their actions....they just continue to go about their business and we the tax payers are supposed to be content with abiding by the "Mushroom Theory" while await the next debacle.

Until examples are made......it will make absolutely no difference as to who is in office, or what issue(s) is/are at the center of the debate. It's not going to get done in the current environment of gridlock and selfishness.

After reading the bill it is not only the states money being spent. It is fed dollars. A state can choose to raise the income requirements right, but it would qualify for the matching fed dollars on whatever they decide. Up to aprox. $84,000.00. my feelings are that there are more needy people that make far less we should help. Not eliminate the private insurance industry.

Please take the scary picture of this post.

Canada and Cuba have free healthcare so you can always go there.  I heard all that free healthcare was excellent according to Michael Moore.

Scarface, government-administered health care is available in every developed nation in the world except ours.  As a result we have the 37th best health of any nation while spending at least 1/3 more than any other nation as a percentage of GDP.  How much worse can it be?  The president of an industry lobbying association once told me that the papers get in a huff when the legislature doesn't get anything done, but in his eyes that's the best possible outcome.  Consider that for a while.

Jerry,
What is your income and how many children or grand children do you have? I think it said that you live in TEXAS? It sounds like you've been there too long and don't get out much, because you are certainly out of touch.  A $50,000 a year job for a family of 4 in this day and time isn't much. You obviously haven't tried to feed, clothe, and educate children lately. My nephew and his wife are expecting their 3rd child.  They live in a modest 3 bedroom home that is now too small for them.  Both parents work. my nephew has a good job and a B.S. degree, but also picks up extra work as a security officer.  His wife also has some college and is a bank manager.  They work hard, attend church, pay their tithes, and are rearing responsible, educated children.  Even with the help of family members, they sometimes struggle to make ends meet.  So, we pray that nothing catastrophic happens to either of them. Just as we have prayed that their next child is also born healthy. It only takes a couple of major expenses to take a family down today.  My suggestion to you is educate yourself and remember "To whom much is given, much is required."  

Yeah Nancy. The Iraq War is so ''disastrous''that the AP yesterday,runs this:


 ''As Iraq Deaths Decline,Cemetary Workers Feel The Pinch''.

Meanwhile,this battleaxe from Baghdad-By-the-Bay decides to piss off every Turk between here and Ankara with the little stunt she pulled a few days ago. Further,the dullwitted Pelosis party has even the ACLU and the Kossacks mad as wet hens with the Dems for ''protecting their civil liberties'' because the crafty president struck a deal with Senate Dems over FISA. They are The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight,let by their cockeyed Annie Oakley.

Mike, above, wrote,"bush should be impeached for CHILD ABUSE for keeping sick kids sick, thats child abuse plain and simple.  When parents don't take their sick or hurt kids for medical attention, they either get the kids taken away or go to jail or both, why not the same for 'THE CHILD ABUSER BUSH'?"

Mike- why is the government responsible for providing health care to children?  Parents are solely accountable for the health and well being of their children.  If they are unable to provide such, I question whether or not they are fit parents.  To require those who do not wish to have children to foot the health care bills for the children of those who were irresponsible in their life choices is unfair at best.  I delayed having children until my wife and I had an income that I felt would provide for our standard of living, our retirement, health care, and, of course, private education (yes, the public school system is beyond repair).  I would have liked to have had children earlier, but I made responsible decisions.  It is time we held parents accountable for their actions.  Much like the wellfare system, this is another program of entitlement which will only reward poor life choices and punish good ones.  Your post was silly and poorly thought out, Mike.  When emotion and logic tangle, I'll bet on logic every time.

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