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Paul's Values Voter speech

Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:07 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Abby Livingston
Paul tailored his normal libertarian stump speech to appeal to the social conservative set while speaking before the Family Research Council this afternoon. Prior to Paul taking the podium, hawkish Duncan Hunter received a raucous applause for his support for the war in Iraq. Paul did not glide over his war opposition. Instead, he tied his position to illegal immigration, stating that border patrol agents "don't need to be in Iraq, they need to be here controlling our borders," which was received with only scattered applause.  
 
Paul tackled abortion, striking a positve chord with his pro-life stance. "I think one of the most despicable of all court rulings is Roe vs. Wade." He then mapped out a legislative strategy to put the onus of abortion legality back to the states. "I wonder why we haven't done better with this approach in Washington?" he asked. "I don't get the support that I think we should have. We haven't had the support in the Congress. We had the majority for a good many years. We've had a pro-life president, but we have not moved in that direction."
 
Paul also voiced his fears of the United States' loss of sovereignty. "Unfortunately, in my lifetime, I have seen it (US sovereignty) just disappear before my eyes when you think about what's happened since World War II. We've joined the UN after World War II. We have a WTO. We have an IMF, the World Bank. We now now have NAFTA and CAFTA, and now we're working on a North American Union. I don't believe we should be in any of those organization, including the United Nations."

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Impractial war? Loosing effort? Worthless sacrifice by our nation's finest? Have you even bothered to ask a real soldier who has been in the front lines if he belives it is a "worhtless sacrifice"?

What kind of babble is this? Is your son in Iraq? What does Iraq have to do with 9-11? Have you ever read the 9-11 commission report? Did you know 15 of the 19 terrorists came from Saudia Arabia? Did you know the attack was planned and carried out from Saudia Arabia and Pakistan? WHY IS YOUR SON IN IRAQ? OUR SOLDIERS ARE DYING IN A WAR WE SHOULDN'T BE IN. THIS WAS AN INVASION OF A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NOTHING TO US! YOU TALK ABOUT TERRORISM, WHY DID WE INVADE A COUNTRY THAT DID NOT ATTACK US? WHY ARE MOST OF OUR BORDER PATROL NOW IN IRAQ INSTEAD OF GUARDING OUR OWN BORDERS? IF THE USA WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TERRORISM WE WOULD SECURE OUR BORDERS FIRST AND PROTECT AMERICA. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

ALL LIES, MORE LIES, STILL LYING!!!!
As a doctor, he absolutely refuses to give care to patients who have Medicaid or Medicare. I would imagine if he was the only doctor who specialized in care that a Medi/Medi patient needed, it wouldn't matter. He would still refuse to give that person care just because the payment method is Medicaid/Medicare. To me that is despicable!

Here is another person that doesn't read so they don't know the facts.

He didn't say he would abolish it, he said he would take care of those that are in it and allow other to opt out if they choose too get out as well as social security.

Yes he doesn't take medicade or medicare so do you know what he would do for those patients? HE TREATED THEM FOR FREE! HE DIDN'T TURN ANYO9NE AWAY! You people need to learn to read and stop listening to the propaganda your being fed on a daily basis and learn the facts before you make yourselves look ignorant.
>(Ron Paul's) desire to deny me my right to decide for myself if and when I have a child.

Ron Paul has no desire to deny you anything.  Actually he wants to give you the power to make the decision rather than the federal government making it for you.  Reproductive rights as an issue has split our country for long enough.  

It is time to put this behind us.  Returning the authority to the states does this.  I think that this would contribute positively to civil discourse and debate on the presidential level.  No more would we be divided over this issue while considering our presidential candidates.  Republicans and Democrats have used this issue to divide us for far too long now.

Ron Paul being a strict constitutionalist would never attempt to impose his will or the will of the federal government on the states.  

At the federal level, Ron Paul is neutral on the subject.  He isn't for it in that he would support federal funding for abortion, and he isn't against it in that he would never support a federal ban.

The same would also apply to stem cell research, gay rights, drug prohibition, and many other decisive issues.

This is exactly how or system of government is supposed to work.  We don't live in a one size fits all world.

>He has stated that he would abolish all social programs.

Actually, Ron Paul has stated that he would have no authority to do such thing.  What he has said is that the welfare state has done nothing but hurt the cause of liberty and he would do what he could in order to wean us off dependency.

However, he has also repeatedly stated that he would do everything to honor the commitments made to the American people who are already dependent on the Federal government.

And once again Ron Paul would never oppose a states right to implement whatever social programs they consider worthy.

>he's pandering to the ultra right wing Christians.

Actually he stood up to the ultra right wing Christians.  They want a federal ban on abortion and Ron Paul will have nothing to do with it.  He also never wavered in he's anti-war stance with the Value Voters.
What happened to "Give me liberty or give me death?"
Rachel Farer, Newark, DE

--- Patrick Henry was hanged. He gave his life so that we can throw away the sacrifices of our founders and say "take my liberty, I fear death"
IF IT WASNT FOR WAR HITLER WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED 6 MILLION JEWS. .. HE WOULD HAVE KILLED ALL THE JEWS. I SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ AND I SUPPORT BOMBING IRAN. WINSTON CHURCHILL WANTED TO PREEMPTIVELY STIKE HITLER BEFORE THE WAR STARTED. EVERYONE CALLLED HIM A WAR MONGOR. HE ENDED UP BEING RIGHT AND WW2 COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED
Wow- I'm surprised the media FINALLY got interested in Ron Paul.  Better late than never!  
comments from people from such socialist states like califoria, are proof that if you dont go along with their far left veiws, you are no good. they takethings out of context, exagerate, etc. abortion will allways be available for health issues, etc. but for anyoneto think of it as a good contracceptive i.e birth control, is an idiot! if you dont want to be pregnant, there are plenty of birth control items one can use. and msot are paid for by taxpayers! something that ron wants to limit. as far as medicaid/medicare, ron means "abusers" of the system. most people dont need welfare. they just prefere it to a lower-tier job. iftghey cant have the big nice hosue like a hard working neighbor, they jsut wont work! who sused to pick the vegtables? we did! ever see "the grapes of wrath"? thats the problem with illegal immigration! we have too many "welfare cases" who would rather take welfare,than get a available job. so. we suddenly "need" a bunch of illegals to do the "jobs americans dont want"! take away the social progams, and america will see to it that there are no jobs available to illegals! aer own socialist nuts are causing this immigration problem!used to be imigrants (legal ones), had to go thru health screening. no moer. now we have diseases re-appearing, that we ounce irradicated. paul is correct in the u.n thing. they are behind socialization of the world. yes. we need to tell them where to go. the governments job is to protect us from enemies, both foreighn and domestic. thats it. not to regulate every facet of our lives. we need less laws, not more. if we inforced the laws on the books, we would not have so many of our current problems. i havent voted for a democrate since clintons first term. the eal democrats are extint. they have been replaced by socialst/communists. why else would people like chavez,castro, and armadinijad endorce them?
Those right-wing Christians are only like sheep being led to the slaughter by those phony preachers who are tools of the government. People will only wake up when the US is no more. Then you will have gotten what you deserve. Americans cannot think for themselves. They have to be told. Many states are making it hard for independents to vote for Ron Paul. What are they afraid of.
As a person of duel citizenship, an American Jew living in Israel.  I support Ron Paul's curtailing the money addiction on the Israeli economy, if he becomes President, hopefully - he's got my vote, we folks in Israel shall have to tighten our belts, and behave as an independent nation again.  We shall not be alone, Egypt and Jordan will have to do the same.  Israel shall now have to carry out a very active diplomacy to maintain our diplomatic relations with the countries in this region.  When i was a student at Texas A&M i wrote an economics paper predicting the fall of the Soviet Union 8 years before it fell.  The industrial military complex operates like a black hole, money thrown its way never returns back to the general economy.  America's broke and the coming generations face a Social Security disaster of 1929 Depression proportions!  Ron Paul says he want to start a transition towards addressing these long term problems.  I'm 48 and i fully understand why the younger folk look to him with such hope.
DUNCAN HUNTER'S SON IS SERVING HIS FOURTH TOUR IN IRAQ... JUST SOME GOOD INFORMATION FOR ALL THE MIS-INFORMED DEMOCRATES SAYING REPUBLICANS SEND OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN TO WAR.
DUNCAN HUNTER'S SON IS SERVING HIS FOURTH TOUR IN IRAQ... JUST SOME GOOD INFORMATION FOR ALL THE MIS-INFORMED DEMOCRATES SAYING REPUBLICANS SEND OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN TO WAR.
Monica, Ron Paul did not refuse to treat patients recieving Government assistance.....He would refuse the money from the government..He delivered many babies to mothers who recieve Medicaid, some for no money, some at reduced rates and some with whom he worked out a payment schedule. He merely believes that the issue of abortion should be decided by individual states.....government CLOSER to the people is more RESPONSIVE to the people.
He has also returned a portion of his yearly office allowance as a Congressman to the Treasury and refuses participation in the VERY LUCRATIVE pension plan Congress has voted for it's members.  Ron Paul truly believes in smaller government and lower taxes...every dollar that the government "gives" to one person, it must take from someone else!  
"Hunter recieved a raucous round of applause for his support of the war". A truly sick, sorry bunch. I wonder how many of them are combat veterans?
If Bush doesn't declare WW3 and make himself Emperor for life and we actually survive to vote in a country that still allows such un patroit expression.
We will need the Ron Paul in all of us to straighten what is left of what our Founding Fathers Intended to be about Life, Liberty and the persuit of Happiness.
Ron Paul gave a great speech. He has my vote and support.

Ron Paul for the win!!!!!!!!!

http://ronpaul2008.com
Ron Paul is a loser and always has been - his popularity among a certain fringe group of would-be
'strict' constructionists is equally mysterious.  Another wolf in sheep's clothing - in order to prevail in Texas as he has, he'd have to be as right-wing in his essential politics as Rush Limbaugh.  What he doesn't like as a Libertarian is governmental interference in the right to make money
without having to pay that damn nuisance tax.  Away with the IRS!!!

Always the bottom line with these yokels.....
This is for Monica's benefit...Ron Paul has performed many medical procedures for NO PAY whatsoever...He has done this because he does not want our hard working citizens to be forced to pay for others' medical care through Medicaid or whatever....BUT he DOES care for the patient, they sometimes pay whatever they can, and if they can't he has chosen to help them for no pay....He does not refuse to help patients, he helps them anyway, and simply doesn't get paid...You need to get a better understanding of this before you "fly off the handle".....just my humble opinion....
He is Pro-Life from a doctor's stand point.  however, he is against one solution for the vastly differing population of the united states.  He would not impose his Pro-Life position upon you.  Dr. Paul would like to see the states decide whether or not they will support the right to choose on a state by state basis rather than a one size fits all decision on topics as sensitive as abortion.

While it is true that he would like to see most social programs done away with, he also realizes that there would be a transition period where the people dependant on these programs would have to be taken care of.

Your comment about him refusing treatment for Medi/Medi patients is absolutely false.  He said he wouldn't take them as payment.  For those that could only pay with one of these government plans, he would just treat for free instead of taking payment.
These loons don't want to hear from a real conservative. They want more phony Christian nationalists like the other Bush clones running.
I'm not sure about Ron Paul, but I'm damn sure about all the front runners.  The question we should be asking is how to force the media to pay more attention to one of the few, if any candidates that won't finish our country off if elected.  Think people, think.  How do we force Mega-Media to give Paul his due.
I think all these messages in support of Ron Paul are inspiring.  Don't forget, the news networks may not want to recognize Ron Paul because he wants us out of Iraq, and they have had their best news ratings covering the war, much better than prewar (even the impeachment hearings didn't get the same ratings).  In any event, it's fascinating that you can google Ron Paul and get 6.7 million hits.  Do that to Giuliani and you get less than 2.5M.  Do it for Hillary and you get about 5.8M. Why ignore this guy, he's a phenomenon.

As a registered republican since 1963, I can see only one choice for the GOP.   Ron Paul.

Or-else there is Hillary.


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