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Giuliani to conservatives: don't fear me

Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:38 AM by Domenico Montanaro



From NBC/National Journal’s Matthew E. Berger
Giuliani told members of the Family Research Council Saturday that they have nothing to fear from him and social conservatives will have an open door to his White House.

Speaking to perhaps his most hostile crowd to date -- the Family Research Council’s Values Voter Summit in DC -- Giuliani said he does not understand why some see him as an “activist for liberal causes.” He stressed he has more areas of agreement with social conservatives than disagreements. “Isn’t it better that I tell you what I really believe than I change my positions to fit the prevailing winds,” Giuliani said, a thinly veiled shot at Romney. “I believe trust is better than 100 percent agreement.”

He pressed for school choice and said he would appoint strict constructionists to the federal bench. He also extolled his support for Israel and described how he cleaned up New York City as mayor.

“People of good conscience come to different conclusions about whether abortions should be legal in some circumstances,” he said, adding though social conservatives and he have a goal in common, decreasing abortions. He stressed his record of increasing adoptions as mayor and said he would eliminate the red tape nationwide to do the same. He also said he would support parental notifications for abortions and the ban on so-called "partial birth abortions."

Giuliani’s highly anticipated speech received warm applause and concluded with a standing ovation. But the hostility to his historic positions on abortion, gay rights and other issues was palpable, and many in the audience have said they will not support Giuliani if he wins the Republican nomination for president.

Giuliani said he was not a perfect person. He also spoke of his own faith, including his Catholic school upbringing. But Giuliani stressed that his family’s style was to keep faith private. “I have made mistakes in my life, but I have tried to learn from them,” he said. “I pray for forgiveness, I pray for guidance … but maybe more privately than others.”

Giuliani said he would have an open door as president to groups like FRC. “People of faith should not be marginalized in our civic debates,” he said. “Believers have every right to participate in our political process. I believe America is better for you expressing your views.”

Giuliani continued his assault on Hillary Clinton, noting “it takes a family, not a village, to raise a child.” He also seemed to take a swipe at Fred Thompson, who is leading Giuliani among social conservative voters in recent polls. He said shifting his positions based on polling and not his true beliefs would make him “a good actor.”

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Social conservatives must wise up and realize that the Republican party's only shot at beating Hillary is to nominate Giuliani. Does anyone really think that Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson has a legitimate chance against her? If these individuals really care about retaining the White House, they will come over to Giuliani's camp. To borrow from Reagan's celebrated refrain, Giuliani is 80 % the friend of conservatives, yet he is moderate enough to challenge Hillary in places like New Jersey, New York, Illinois and California. This is something that no other Republican candidate can do. If social conservatives fail to realize this critical point, this election loss and its repercussions for the party will be laid at their feet.
Someone made a very good point in an earlier thread.  If the religious right rejects Rudy and they are supposed to be a powerful voting block, then why does he poll so high? Are they in reality irrelevent?
Giuliani....Isn’t it better that I tell you what I really believe than I change my positions to fit the prevailing winds?...”

This is a good line.  If he means it, it is what I want to hear from all the candidates.  What they believe, not what they think I want them to believe.
Mr Giuliani is on tape denying that he is a conservative after winning Mayor of New York. I agree that there is not much difference bbetween him and another democrat. He did a good job for New York  especially after 911. But We need someone completely different than Hillary as President and he is NOT that.
Provision for the individual choice will be honored.   Until we are all free to make a choice without regard to who performs the oversite...the possiblity for the extreme example will be enlivened. Keep it in the hands of the professional...we as a nation already perform at the professional level for all parts of the "body",  let the "patient" take the call.  Philippians 3:9  No one to blame but myself.
Giuliani is a liar plain and simple.. first of all he doesn't support gay marriges only civil unions, Second of all he couldn't even sign a pledge to confirm he would lower taxes, which means he won't... His co chair is responsible for calling "Blacks retarted"... Most of his sponsers all have been caught in drug and prostituion scandals... His 9/11 record is totally blotched.. Over 242 firefighters died due to his negligence.. when he was warned about defective radios.. and he didn't do anything, suspended the search at ground zero... He claimed he spend more time then workers, turns out he lied again and only spend 29 hours there........

HE HAS BEEN MARRIED THREE TIMES, ONCE TO HIS SECOND COUSIN... HIS OWN DAUGHTER IS VOTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE

How could anyone in their right mind decide to vote for him...

The only viable candidate the republicans have at this point is Ron Paul
Rudy just needs to coast along now. Almost in Hillary's position, where he'll have to screw up to blow it. As for the general, anything's possible with the evangelicals.
http://political-buzz.com/
I think Giuliani would be supported by 'values voters'in a general election because the critical issue for them is judical appointments, and he has stated he would appoint strict constuctionists. Ultimately, it does not matter what he thinks about issues like abortion. What matters is the kind of judges he would appoint.
Yes, I know how the flesh can except the role of god without implicating ones self.  Psalm 65:~
Giuliani is plain and simple, he,s a New Yorker who believe what,s good for New York is good for the country. N.Y. gave him a position of authority and a big stick and he clean up the street,s. Ok, so he put alot of people in jail and I guess that cost to the taxpaper offset his tax breaks. Isn,t that like the suspreme court giving G.W. the position of Commander and Chief and him saying, go get em boys! Is that Leadership? C,mon that,s not Leadership! If Giuliani had any Leadership ability he would have showed it with the Democrats when he was one. But of course it was those backward Democrats that were the problem not him. Well if your Red or Blue you should be able to lead if your a Leader. Maybe that why he was so successful in Law-enforcement! Not hard to have followers their. He,s a good guy don,t get me wrong he simply is in the wrong job category. He should of jumped into the A.G. job when Gonzo left. That the real shoe that fits Giuliani, and as for his run for President, even he knows he can,t afford to take on Romney.  
Luke 1:34
A new poll from Missouri has Clinton leading big on all Republicans -- including 7% against Giuliani!
http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/10/edwards-hits-clintons-electability.html
2 corinthians 5:14
    i dont fear you rudy and i  dont trust you either 5,000 troops home by christmas, another 20,000 to be redeployed
I do fear Julie because he is a liberal...he has never made a total commitment to anything; family, friends, city, state, government, and most OBVIOUS TO ALL TO GOD!!! No person can accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and live a life of being obedient to the Holy Commandments as Jules has done...he is not being judged by us, we just do not want a paganistic, secular, carnal male for president when he hides his ill-doings behind what he calls religion, that is, "catholic" which is worshiping the pope...no conservative believes in any of that garbage. AT HIS AGE, HE AIN'T GONNA CHANGE!!! He still follows after the devil and his kind - Jules is a rino!!! Once a demoncritic always a demoncritic!!!
Giuliani is okay..no Reagan, but he has talent. I can't find one of those in the Dem gang, and that is EXACTLY why I made America's only politically CONSERVATIVE music CD, where Hillary, Edwards, Gore and the Ward Churchills of the world get their due--to music! Isn't the shoe in Hollywood usually on the other ear? Check OUR music @

www.conservativemusiconline.com
Will average americans also have an OPEN DOOR$$ to the Rudy White House or will we have to dress like KNIGHTS TEMPLARS to receive an audience? Making promises like that will get him less votes in the general election, we are all tired of the American Taliban and their devisive politics. We could come together and solve these problems but the leaders of this block know that if we come to an agreement then they lose their power. It is easier to pretend you want change than to come toogether and make changes.
Or in Rudy's case, it takes a Court Order to raise a child. And Fred? Hey, wait a minute, is he talking about A Actors or B Actors? Never mind. Reagan was a B Actor. (I guess it takes a Studio.)


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