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Albright defends Hillary's Iran vote

Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:11 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
HOOKSETT, NH -- Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright today said that Hillary Clinton has been "very clear" in stating that she believes President Bush cannot go to war without congressional authorization.

Albright, who was campaigning for Clinton here in New Hampshire, also defended the senator's vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which her rivals have said warned will be used by Bush as justification for military action. "[The vote] was one in order to make very clear that the [Iranian] Revolutionary Guard was one of the most extremist groups within Iran and that it was important to sanction them in order to be able to move toward robust diplomacy," Albright said in an interview.

Albright also noted that Clinton spoke on the Senate floor in February to say she believed Bush couldn't go to war without Senate authorization. And she pointed to Clinton's co-sponsoring an amendment by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) stipulating that no federal funds could be used for military action in Iran. "So I think she's made her position very clear," Albright said. "She is against the President using force in Iran without using any kind of congressional authorization. And she has made very clear that she believes that robust diplomacy needs to be used in order to make difficult and impossible really for Iran to have a nuclear program."
 

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Which would be more impressive if she didn't work for the previous Clinton administration ...
Madeleine Albright and Clinton are mistaken and misguided.
Hillary:  Bill? Bill?  I've got have some help on this
Bill:  Alright honeybunch I'll call Albright, she'll get you out of it....

ALways call an idiot to get you out of trouble.....

I am sure it will be a comfort to the 10s of thousands of dead to know she made it clear to Bush that he could not go to war without congressional approval before she voted for a bill he could use as an excuse.  I hope I am wrong.
It's so sad how far democrats will go to sell their soul to get Hillary elected
Well that is an independent voice of affirmation!  Let me guess, Sandy Berger and Dick Holbrooke agree.  

I would bet that they all think the President took advantage of poor Hillary's intent with regard to Iraq too.  The thought of the entire Clinton establishment taking back over Washington is disturbing.  We need someone with a different last name than Bush and Clinton running this country.  How can you have change when you elect dynasties?
Dubya will use the same authorization he's used for all his other scams. The Voice of God in his head.
"[The vote] was one in order to make very clear that the [Iranian] Revolutionary Guard was one of the most extremist groups within Iran and that it was important to sanction them in order to be able to move toward robust diplomacy," Albright said in an interview.'

 please mrs. albright, the vote was to label the iranian army "terrorist" so that a pre-emptive u.s. attack can be made by bush without congressional approval, and hillary voted for it to appease the military lobbyists backing her, anybody who thinks otherwise is just being foolish.
No Madam Secretary, her position is very fuzzy! We don't know where she actually stands on most issues, her Iran position is o exception.

Nice try though.
Obama was for labeling the Iran guards terrorists, but he has NOT come out in support of the Clinton/Webb legislation barring BUsh from attacking Iran.

For Obama , its more important to attack Clinton than it is to stop bush.

how sad
Hillary was for saber rattling with Iran (Kyl-Lieberman) before she against it (Webb Bill).  Just like she was for Iraq before she was against it.  

Notice how Hillary is only saying that Bush needs congress's authority to go to war, not that she doesn't support going to war.  Saying that he needs Congressional authorization is nothing new: the founding fathers wrote that into the constitution a couple hundred years ago.  

Notice how Hillary never says anything of consequence and is always a follower, not a leader, on majore issues?  She is not our best nominee, folks.  
Another political capital given to GeorgeW Bush and we all know that GW is not very prudent with political capital. Spin all you can Madam Secretary and all other Clinton cronies..... GW has the final say.
Albright has got to be one of the biggest suck-ups ever.  What's with these old worn out Democrats, they trying to recapture what ever glory they perceived they once had?
Tuck,Realityville: '...Obama was for labeling the Iran guards terrorists, but he has NOT come out in support of the Clinton/Webb legislation barring BUsh from attacking Iran. ...'

Sen. Webb called the Liberman-Kyl bill 'Dick Cheney's fondest dream'
Sen. Webb knew that the Bush-Cheney regime could use this as justification to attack Iran.
Hillary Clinton voted for 'Dick Cheney's fondest dream' as part of her 'general election mode'

One set of lies for the primary election
One set of lies for the general election

any 'Clinton/Webb legislation' is just a political ploy by Hillary to cover her backside.
It has NO CHANCE TO PASS

It's just another set of lies by Hillary
Those lies are only good in Shuck's unRealityville

Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandal and divisiveness

PS Hillary must be feeling the heat if she's sending out (campaign) flyers and liars (Half-bright)
pathetic Hillary
Typical Hillary she tries to be on ever side of the issue.  This is exactly what she did on Iraq.

Regarding the Webb bill she JUMPED on it after the Kyle /Liberman vote...even Webb didn't know, she announced it on the web.  It had been out there for months, but had not come to the floor because they knew it wouldn't pass and they didn't want the impression that a failed vote would give Bush more justification
Jerry?  This is Dick Cheney.  Can you help George W. out?
Albright works for Clinton!!! A very dangerous alliance.

Oh Tuck Again? Found something against Obama? Nice

(PS: However you respond to criticism in a professional manner So I leave you)
SONIC/Corpus,

Dick Cheney is busy sleeping at cabinet meeting.
All this to say what? Albright was the same advisor that Clinton used that told her to vote for the war in Iraq!!! So this really doesn't help!!
ALways call an idiot to get you out of trouble.....

Your experience tells, Jerry
Madaline Nobright is a joke. She doesn't know what she is talking about. I guess this is the second time she's blowing it.

She cannot be trusted
Another chinese story.


An unlikely treasure-trove of donors for Clinton: The candidate's unparalleled fundraising success relies largely on the least-affluent residents of New York's Chinatown — some of whom can't be tracked down," by Peter Nicholas and Tom Hamburger:

"Some of the poorest Chinese neighborhoods in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx have been swept by an extraordinary impulse to shower money on one particular presidential candidate: Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton. Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for its gritty urban poverty yielded a whopping $380,000. When Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) ran for president in 2004, he received $24,000 from Chinatown. At this point in the presidential campaign cycle, Clinton has raised more money than any candidate in history. Those dishwashers, waiters and street stall hawkers are part of the reason. And Clinton's success in gathering money from Chinatown's least-affluent residents stems from a two-pronged strategy: mutually beneficial alliances with powerful groups and appeals to the hopes and dreams of people now consigned to the margins. Clinton has enlisted the aid of Chinese neighborhood associations, especially those representing recent immigrants from Fujian province. The organizations, at least one of which is a descendant of Chinatown criminal enterprises that engaged in gambling and human trafficking, exert enormous influence over immigrants. The associations help them with everything from protection against crime to obtaining green cards. Many of Clinton's Chinatown donors said they had contributed because leaders in neighborhood associations told them to. In some cases, donors said they felt pressure to give. The other piece of the strategy involves holding out hope that, if Clinton becomes president, she will move quickly to reunite families and help illegal residents move toward citizenship. As New York's junior senator, Clinton has expressed support for immigrants and greater family reunification. She is also benefiting from Chinese donors' naive notions of what she could do in the White House. As with other campaigns looking for dollars in unpromising places, the Clinton operation also has accepted what it later conceded were improper donations. At least one reported donor denies making a contribution. Another admitted to lacking the legal-resident status required for giving campaign money


Democratic party is doomed if HRC is nominated
Didn't the constitution give the congress the right to authorize war? Also, the constitution give the congress the power to finance war... while do Clinton need to co-sponsor an amendment by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) stipulating that no federal funds could be used for military action in Iran? Congress already have the power...she is in a whole and need to stop digging...
Lets see, It was Albright that called for the removal of Saddam in 1998, it was Albright and Clinton(bill) who said Saddam had WMD's in 1999, just goggle clinton and wmd's. This woman who is now working for Hillary is a Warmonger and a bit senile, since she can't remember what she said two days ago. Clinton is going to be defeated, and i bet it starts in Iowa. The MSM may want hillary, but America does not!!! Obama/edwards 08
Any comment from Obama on this issue has become moot, as he supported a similar resolution just a matter of months ago. In addition, the comments from Edwards are anything but straightforward and honest, as the resolution in question does NOTHING that Edwards is claiming. And to suggest Hillary's vote is an "enabling" vote to war is rhetorically offensive (at best). He ought to read the resolution (which he clearly has not)....He is obviously trying to use the Iran issue to bolster his candidacy by trying to bring another candidacy down, which is unfortunate. He's a smart guy, with interesting ideas. Rather than touting his own ideas, however, he has now reverted to the BS politics of making false claims on others to try to bring them down. Dodd is less obtuse. However, is this was not a political year, he would (most likely) have voted "yes" on the amendment. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is not a mystery. Ultimately, this congress will NOT give Bush the authority to go to war. The Kyl-Lieberman resolution does nothing to empower this administration. Dodd knows this (as do the others).
Doug Crimm, come Jan 2009 you will get half your wish. I believe no one with the last name Bush will be running the country
That old bag doesn't know anything.  She's the one that gave the nuke plants to North Korea to begin with.  They need to put that old bag out to pasture.
The Kyl-Lieberman bill VERY CLEARLY links TROOPS LEVELS in Iraq to Iran's presence, and suggests that the MILITARY can and should be used AGAISNT IRAN if need be. Bill text below, see for yourselves:
From the bill text:
"(2) that it is a vital national interest of the United States to prevent the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran from turning Shi’a militia extremists in Iraq into a Hezbollah-like force"
" (3) that it should be the policy of the United States to COMBAT, CONTAIN , and ROLL BACK the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran...
   (4) to SUPPORT the prudent and calibrated use of ALL INSTRUMENTS of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and MILITARY INSTRUMENTS, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies;"

If you don't think that supports the use of military action against Iran, you simply cannot read.  Those paragraphs clearly lay out a war scenario using military power against Iran using Iraq as the proxy.  ONE military strike against a legitimate Iranian target will send us to war with Iran.  Iran WOULD strike back.  The bill "supports" the use of military action against Iranian targets at the least, and at most clearly says "the Government of Iran".  Do NOT be fooled.  This bill was not JUST ABOUT The Revolutionary Gaurd.  It tied our military presence in Iraq to BOTH the Rev. Guard AND the Iranian government.
I can see it know.lie today go to jail tommorow thats what happened to Bills followers.
MY OH MY, how stipid and idiotic can some people be?  

First, as I've mentioned before, Hillary is neither my first or second choice for president, yet I totally hate, detest and abhor uninformed, unfair, idiotic, and  dissembling attacks on any candidate.

Second, the Liberman-Kyl bill is a NON-BINDING "RESOLUTION", NOT a congressional approval of allowing our war-mongering president to declare war!

Third, I'll bet a ton that those attacking the RESOLUTION and it's backers have ZERO knowledge of what the RESOLUTION actually says, as I do having read it in it's entirety.  NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING in that NON-BINDING RESOLUTION, in any way shape or form, can reasonably be construed as granting our war-mongering president the unmitigated descretion to invade or attack Iran (albeit, no one has ever accused Bush of "reasonably thinking anything).

Fourth, if you haven't read the NON-BINDING RESOLUTION, and refuse or fail to do so, and still continue to attack Senator Clinton, you should be both ashamed and wholly castigated.

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Whats wrong with these idiots? Can nobody see that we are on the verge of Armageddon? Oh, after all, its just the Bible and nobody believes that old thing right. Believe the Quran or some other BS book but not the Bible. We need to ride these dingbats out of town on a rail and get some leaders that are honest and are for the people instead of seeing how much they can stuff in their pockets. Come on America...Wake Up before its too late.
I don't really care how clear Hillary has been about what she believes her vote meant. It is what Bush believes about what the vote meant that scares the hell out of me.
If congress can declare a war, why can't they end one as well without the say so of the president?
Constitution????????
Madaline obviously hasn't been paying much attention to the BushCo modus operandi.

Now comes the "you're with us or against us*" speech.



* Does not apply to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.
Help Me Jerry!
No body trust the Republicans today. They can come as Mayors, Governors or Senators. They have ruined our country. We need Hillary and other Democrats to put the house in order
sierra, why don't you comment on obama SPONSERING an amendment calling the iranian rev. Guards terrorists?

geez, first you insist he didn't do such a thing, then you insist he missed a vote by accident (yeah, he had to be present on a day when the senate was in session!), then you spin that labeliing his terrorists doesn't count, and now you won't address why he doesn't come out in support of Clinton/Webbs admendment ..

why won't he

next thing you know he'll be cuddling homophobes.
The last thing Hillary can do right now is to do something that makes her look soft on National Defense, or soft on terrorism.  She’s already leaning towards the middle since she has the nomination locked up.

Bush couldn’t do anything of significance anymore.  Especially like attacking another country.  He’s a lame duck.

So who cares if Iran wants to explode a nuclear bomb over Tel Aviv.  As long as Hillary is elected, it’s all good…right?
Voter's of AMERICA, is'nt it way past time to put all these so-called political expert's where they need to be, enjoying there last years in a gaited community, playing Bingo or something,traveling, enjoying there grandkids(if they have any)? I have nothing against the elderly (my mom will be 77 next month), but as I tell her often, we live in a different world than the PAST. AMERICA needs new Leadership with newer idea's to confront the many problem's that have been brought on this country by the bush-clinton Dictatorship's. Values without Moral's are LIES. BRING about & Vote for change AMERICA. This country of ours cries out for LEADERSHIP!
Dw, Herrin, Il--I am not Muslim but I find it distasteful how you put the Quran in a category as being a "BS book". I mean what religion are you, because the Bible clearly states,

" [Matt 7:1-5] Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; [Matt 6:14; Luke 23:16; Acts 3:13] pardon, and you will be pardoned.

AND

"For God [John 3:34; 5:36, 38; 6:29, 38, 57; 7:29; 8:42; 10:36; 11:42; 17:3, 8, 18, 21, 23, 25; 20:21] did not send the Son into the world [Luke 19:10; John 8:15; 12:47; 1 John 4:14] to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
I find all this venom being shot towArds Hillary diplorable. Why are people so easily distracted from the real problem. We have a trigger happy President in the Whithouse now who doesn't CARE about the people of this nation.  He enjoys distraction so he can plan war with Iran. Heck it wasn't Hillary's idea now was it?  He and Condi should be arrested for their crimes against the people  of this nation and the people abroad who are victims of his meglomania. Hillary is, like any senator with a conscience, the administration keep pulling punches that put our congress in a tough spot in dealing with his shinanigans. What do you expect from her, she isn't a one woman congress. But when she's a one woman President, even if you don't like her you can be assured the world will be a SAFER PLACE. If for nothing else, UNLIKE THE PRESENT CIC SHE KNOWS HOW TO USE WORDS. As for Albright, I'd take her anyday over any of the people in the administration today.
Why are people so easily distracted from the real problem. We have a trigger happy President in the Whitehouse now who doesn't CARE about the people of this nation.  He enjoys distraction so he can plan war with Iran. Heck it wasn't Hillary's idea now was it?  He and Condi should be arrested for their crimes against the people  of this nation and the people abroad who are victims of his meglomania. Hillary is, like any senator with a conscience, is in a tough spot in dealing with his shinanigans. What do you expect from her, she isn't a one woman congress. But when she's a one woman President, even if you don't like her you can be assured the world will be a SAFER PLACE. If for nothing else,Unlike Bush she can actually talk in coherent sentences! As for Albright, I'd take her anyday over any of the people in the administration today.
  Excellant post Stu, really good information. I was holding opinion until I saw your article. I know some are screaming that this authorizes war with Iran.I agree with you now that I understand that this is a resloution and not a law. Everybody step back and breathe. We still have over a year before the elections. Let's just make sure we are all well informed before voting. I do not agree with labeling The Quds terrorist's, I think it does more to scare americans then anything else. But it does not give W the power to invade. We have plenty of other things to worry about.
Pete Richards - If Albright is a suck-up, then what do you call GW's lap dog Condie?
NOW LET ME REMEMBER, THIS IS THE SAME ALBRIGHT WHO STOOD IN THE ROSE GARDEN WITH THE VICE-PRESIDENT AND OTHER CABINETS MEMBERS AND "SAID" THE PRESIDENT DID NOT MESS AROUND WITH MONICA. WHOW HOW SOME PEOPLE WILL SELL THEIR SOULS TO THE DEVIL TO GET THEIR NAMES AND STATEMENTS PRINTED IN THE PRESS.
Jerry in Corpus always cracks me up! As much as he hates Democrats- I let his Republican Texas speak for itself! The fraud president Bush once ripped Ann Richards when Texas was 27th in child health care- yet under him it was 50th- as Gore pointed out in the first debate. Amazing how Texas ranks 50th STILLin child health care, 50th in health care for seniors, 1st per capita in teen pregnancy, domestic violence cases, children in foster care, percentage of the population in prison for non-violent crimes, high school dropouts, women who don't get pre-natal care when pregnant- and even children living in poverty! RIGHT behind Republican Texas in those categories are Republican Alabama and Republican Mississippi. That is the Texas brought to you by Bush and Perry- even Senator KBH called it a ;'Disgrace' when she voted for SCHIPS- so much for family values and fake religion.  
See people, the non-biding resolution of yesterday was sign into law today. Another war coming on the way. When are we going to say "No More War"? The biggest problem with this country is leadership who see war as the first approach to solving problem.

Hillary cannot be trusted.
Are we going to bomb the saudis too? This congress is sold out.
The fact is that Hillary voted for that amendment which is a loophole entry into war with Iran.  Everyone who voted for it knew that, including Hillary. She can SAY anything else she wants behind any podium but what she did was authorize the Shrub to drop more bombs and kill millions more people.  Spin will NEVER change the facts...but it will give lazy people a reason to believe a lie.
The fact is that Hillary voted for that amendment which is a loophole entry into war with Iran.  Everyone who voted for it knew that, including Hillary. She can SAY anything else she wants behind any podium but what she did was authorize the Shrub to drop more bombs and kill millions more people.  Spin will NEVER change the facts...but it will give lazy people a reason to believe a lie.


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