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Thompson calls in to Laura Ingraham

Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:49 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy
While spending a few days in Alabama with his family celebrating his son Sammy’s first birthday, Thompson took time to call in to the conservative Laura Ingraham Show -- to talk about the GOP presidential race, Giuliani's lead in the national polls, and Rudy's record on illegal immigration.

“You’ve got various categories of people out there, so-called big shots, but you’ve got an awful lot of people out there, much greater numbers, who are just average folks,” Thompson said. “It seems to me, like in terms of the traditional GOP fundraisers, still quite a few of them are on the sidelines. I haven’t noticed a real rush to anybody, including Rudy. And as far as the national polls are concerned, I haven’t seen that he’s picking up much.”

A few days after rolling out his own anti-illegal immigration proposal, Thompson also kept up his criticisms of Giuliani on his support of illegal immigration while mayor of New York. “He said if you come here and work hard, and you happen in undocumented status, you’re one of the people that we want in this city, you’re somebody that we want to protect,” Thompson said. “So that pretty much gives you his thoughts on it. I don’t think he’s moved away from it to tell you the truth. He teamed up, apparently with MoveOn.org, under George Soros to oppose the anti-immigration forces, so-called, so I’m not sure what he would say about the future."

“You can often tell about the future, concerning someone’s policies, based on what they’ve done in the past, and he will equate New York and the rest of the country in many respects in terms of his qualifications, but I don’t know if in this respect he’ll just say, ‘Oh this is just one city, and this is just good for one city, and I thought then then, but I think this now,’ kind of like Mitt’s health-care plan.”

When Ingraham pointed out that Rudy was the only candidate left out of former White House aide Dan Bartlett’s critical comments about the GOP presidential candidates, Thompson shrugged off the importance of the White House’s support, if that’s what Bartlett’s comments meant. “That’s one group. Obviously, the truth is that’s a pretty big [group], if it is a group,” Thompson said. “But who are those people, the president himself or Dan himself personally? Or what? Who knows? It’s a big country full of a lot of people and White House support, if that’s what it turns out to be, that’d be significant to some people but this day and time I don’t know how significant. You just got to kind of pin your ears back and go forward.”

Going forward, according to Thompson, means “picking up the pace a bit” in Iowa and using that state’s caucuses as a launching pad. And instead of making excuses for why he hasn’t spent as much time in the Hawkeye State as some of his opponents have, Thompson pointed to his standing in the polls and used an example of an Iowa turnaround that has become a staple of his stump speech: John Kerry versus Howard Dean.

“You know, for the ranking that I have there compared to the time that I've had to spend there, you know, it’s really kind of remarkable,” Thompson said. “Everything’s a snap shot today. I’ve learned from Senate races that you’ve got to be able to project ahead and see how things are going to develop, especially in a place like Iowa [that] changes on a dime, can change on a dime. It changed for Howard Dean out there just in a matter of hours or days before their last race.”

Despite good reviews about his performance at the debate last weekend, apparently Thompson didn’t put the laziness issue to rest because as a final question Ingraham asked him about his laid-back campaign style. “I’m not rabid,” Thompson said. “I don’t jump up and down when I talk. I make my point, I move on, and I win elections.”

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Where are all the Presidential candidates, especially Hillary Clinton since she represents New York and why aren't they commenting on the New York Governor's plan to issue driver's licenses to illegal immmigrants?  Not to mention that the voting commission now said they don't have to ask for a social security number when they vote anymore, that a driver's license is sufficient.  Voter fraud anyone?  And please don't tell me I'm a racist.  I just don't think anyone who is already breaking the law by being here illegally should be allowed to have the privilege of getting a driver's license or above all, being allowed to VOTE!  We should all remember that driver's licenses are also used to get on airplanes!  Where is the Federal Government on this one?  In New Jersey we need to show 6 different things to prove we are from New Jersey and Legally!  I can't believe not one person who is running for President has addressed this issue!  I am very disappointed!!!
New Independent....perhaps its because Hillary hasn't been asked to comment on it.  I doubt she'll support it either since over 90% of NY'ers oppose it, as does most of our reps in our state legislature.  While there is an argument for the governor's proposal [see newsday.com today for a good article dealing with the issue] I agree that on a pure policy basis, it is antithetical to bestow a privelege on criminals like illegal aliens who by their very presence in NY makes them criminals.
I'm a NYer AND a democrat and I wish I could take back my vote for Spitzer over this driver's license thing.
Driving's a privilege.  NOT a right.  Earn it legally or go w/o
I won't even help my own kids get a license.  They have to earn the money for lessons and insurance on their own.
If you're not legal, I don't want you driving on the roads I pay for - and you don't - anyway.
Sounds like Thompson has learned to be a good stenographer and regurgitator of the Fox/Limbaugh talking points.

It has been clear for quite sometime that Rudy is the White House choice to carry the imperial crown.
New Independent. I don't know how it works in NJ or in NY but I would bet that it is pretty much the same in all states that you have to be on the official voter roll to vote. I have never heard of a driver's license being sufficient; if so then that is a problem but I'd like to see some fact checking.
New Independent....perhaps its because Hillary hasn't been asked to comment on it.  I doubt she'll support it either since over 90% of NY'ers oppose it, as does most of our reps in our state legislature.  While there is an argument for the governor's proposal [see newsday.com today for a good article dealing with the issue] I agree that on a pure policy basis, it is antithetical to bestow a privelege on criminals like illegal aliens who by their very presence in NY makes them criminals.
pat huntington ny (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:15 PM)

If Hillary had any balls, and I heard she had big ones, she would be taking the lead on this to ensure illegals weren't getting a free pass to someone elses home, bank account, school, financial assistance, healthcare, or ID.
cs says: Driving's a privilege.  NOT a right.

Driving's a right.  Health care is a right.  Coming to the US illegally is a right.  Me having the government take money out of your pocket and put it into my pocket is a right.  Not being offended is a right.  It's the Democratic way.  Get used to it.
Thompson is a complete joke....although so are most of the other GOP candidates. As an Independent, I view Guiliani as the least objectionable of all the GOP candidates and is the ONLY one I would even consider voting for. Anybody else will get slaughtered in the general election.
Was that crown or clown?
Fred Thompson = Bush [um what term is a junior to Bush Junior?]
really, thompson ought to spend his time with his children.. he has a 1 year old !
spend some time with them before you're too old to do anything with them
Fred the entertainer. Still a folksy delivery and very little substance. He can win with this nonsense.
NotALemming - this is a totally local NY issue...she's been in Iowa, NH, etc....everywhere but in NY and is way too busy to be briefed on a purely local issue such as this...so not surprised she's not volunteered her position on this.
common sense ny'er?  I kind of doubt your username actually has anything to do with reality.  Illegals usually have fake social security cards so that their employers can pretend that they really didn't know that Pedro, who is earning less than the minimum wage was illegal, they also pay taxes on those less than minimum wage so they pay for the road just like you and all your whining do.
When Rudy was NYC Mayor he did welcome illegal immigrants to New York, he did start or perpetuate the NYC gun control laws, he was pro-choice, and on and on.  It's so obvious that these changes were made in order to appear as a viable conservative candidate.  Every time he tries to explain these changes, his reasons just don't cut the mustard.  He is the same highly intelligent extrovert that one would think has highly thought-out positions that wouldn't change because of any single event.  Like Thompson said in this article, you look at a persons past behavior and beliefs to predict future behavior.  I am and have always been a conservative, and I will not vote to put a  "Johnny come lately" into the most powerful job in this country.  I want a President who's basic beliefs and values have been exhibited in his personal and political life.  
In Oregon, all you need is a driver's license or a state issued I.D.
If you're illegally in the U.S., you shouldn't be afforded anything unless it's a life saving situation. Driver's licenses don't apply. As for being allowed to vote with just a driver's license...we're voting into office, public officials to serve the people. They are payed through our taxes. Since illegals don't pay taxes, they shouldn't be allowed to vote, ID or not.
Steve, Sanford, FL

It was clown, just like you!
cs IS a democrat.  That doesn't mean I'm an idiot.  My kids ask if we live in a democracy.  I tell them, I do, I'm over 18 and a legal citizen.  They're not.  I don't mind taxes if you are taxed proportionately.  There is no way the upper classes are taxed proportionately, or we'd have no funding problems.  I don't think I'm ENTITLED to anything I haven't worked for.  
Not all democrats are bleeding hearts.  And not all 'poor' and 'illegals' are democrats.
I've known some pretty lazy, shiftless republicans in my time.
I'll vote for anyone who has a better idea.
Charlie Rangel makes more sense to me than Hillary Clinton.  But Hillary Clinton still makes a heck of a lot more sense than anything I've heard coming out of the GOP, which doesn't seem to really articulate much of anything.  (Except "Ronald Reagan" and "I'm the TRUE conservative")

T=
In the future, this country will split into different nation/states.  It's become too polarized to remain one nation.  I had these conservatives almost beat me silly in Texas last month (like violently) because I just calmly voiced my opinion in favor of a democratic candidate.

Am I not able to believe and vote as I wish?  Is that not what democracy is?  Isnt that why are figthing and dying in Iraq (freedom and democratic ways) and imposing on Iran?  We fight abroad for freedom yet cant excercise it here?

Do those guys want a fascist state, a dictatorship or one party, where you have to be just like them or you get smashed?  Where we are put down for our own opinions and beliefs?

I have seen people on both sides getting more and more irrate and divided, even violent.  So, sadly, I think we going to have a civil war - of some sort - again in the future.

I think we need a 2 party rule.  Like Bush and Kerry would have had to work together, to hear from both sides, then sit down and hammer out middle grounds.  
Hey New Independent, I agree with you, except for the "...We should all remember that driver's licenses are also used to get on airplanes!..." Tourists don't have US Driver's Licenses and can/should be allowed to get into airplanes...
Fred speaks for the common millionare
Let's not forget that we, as a nation of consumers, need illegal immigrants to do the work that we, as a nation of make the most for the least amount of work, could not fathom doing.  I know it is unpopular to say it, but without those immigrant workers, table wine would cost $50 a bottle and most small restaurants couldn't function without the wait staff or cooking staff.  Can someone remind me what the statue of liberty stands for?
NotALemming - this is a totally local NY issue...she's been in Iowa, NH, etc....everywhere but in NY and is way too busy to be briefed on a purely local issue such as this...so not surprised she's not volunteered her position on this.
pat huntington ny (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:57 PM)

Pat, that's a pretty lame excuse.
Bob Jackson:

Would employers who are paying illegal wages be much concerned about having illegal workers and witholding taxes in the first place?

We DO NOT need illegals to do our work! And the statue of liberty stands for freedom under the blanket of LEGAL migration to our country. Hello!
"Fear nothing but fear itself"
FDR
"Fear nothing if you elect me president" (implied)
Rudy Giuliani
I love how illegal immigration is solely about hard working men and women that have come into this country for a better life.  We should provide them with free health care and free housing and free driver's licenses.  I guess no one thinks that any terrorist in our country could be here illegally?  Maybe if followed strict laws we would be able to catch some of these terrorists?  Illegal immigration is not just about Mexico.....
Hillary doesn't need to equivocate to the people of New York her views. They were too stupid in the beginning to recognize her BS and still are. She knew she couldn't win squat in her home state of Arkansas because at least we're smart enough to see the Clintons for what they really are. Ask any Arkansas State highway patrolman that served in the capital detail about the Clintons. Do you really want slick Billy & Hilly with that kind of power?  You bleeding heart liberals are all the same! She will pass out licenses for everything on every street corner to get elected! Get ready for the end of Democracy as we know it!
I can't believe that people really believe all illegal immigrants are hard working mexicans that are here to support their families living in poverty in Mexico.  Terrorists are also here illegally and any free documentation rights we give to hard working immigrants, will also be handed to terrorists waiting for thier next chance to strike.
cs:

The upper classes are taxed disproportionately.  It's built into the system that the better off pay the most taxes and at a higher rate (proportion).  The guy or gal that pays 30% of his/her $200,000 pays $60,000 in federal income taxes.  

The guy or gal that pays 15% of his/her $30,000 pays $4,500.  That's disproportionate and it can be argued that the less well-off benefit equally from what the more well-off pay for. Is it more "proportionate" if the more well-off surrender 50%?  Or 60%?  How about we tax the "upper classes" at a rate that insures that they will only have the same amount left over that the "lower classes" have?  Make $200,000 and keep 25,500?  Make $30,000 and keep $25,500?

With a federal government that already has an almost $3 trillion budget and never, ever, asks for or gets less from year to year, maybe you should be more specific about how we would have no funding issues if taxation of the "upper classes" was somehow more "proportionate"?

The "upper classes" pay more taxes in every other form as well and support an overwhelming proportion of philanthropy.  So what, in your humble opinion, is "proportionate"?

If you don't think you are entitled to anything you haven't worked for, then you can't possibly be in favor of Rangel's expansion of the earned income tax credit either, or the EITC in general.

My friendas!  If G.W.Bush can be "president", then Fred Thompson cam be the next clown in the house as well.  Helllllllp!!!!
It's amazing how thoughtless, ignorant, and in some cases outright delusional some of you are.
Hi! This is an"illegal immigrant" working in America. I urge you all to travel abroad and learn what the REAL world is like.  Don't be stupid and believe that American economy can survive without our "illegal" labor. It's capitalism with the help of Republican business minds fuelled by W's corruption.  Sorry! If voted for a clown who supported cheap labor to vafor corp, it's you problem!
PEDRO, AZ!!! Hasta luego amigos!!
Who cares is Fred Thompson or even RONALD REAGAN himself comes fromt the grave to win the election.  Mitt Romney is the obvious choice the RNC is wanting to win the nomination.  He's more a sheep than a shepperd.  
Our country, the United States Of America was founded on Legal and Illegal Immigration (Dont believe me then read previous past census books in your County and find the facts).
Third, your fellow Republican President George W. Bush signed into law, the Amero Union, part of NAFTA Act.  Which in the very soon future will vanquish the need for Green Cards and State I.D.'s.  Dont believe then look into it!
How funny how our forefather who started this country wanted to eliminate "BIG GOVERNMENT" and here we are today US the PEOPLE with no rights!!! If you dont believe me then stop being a idiot and do the research yourself's.
So stop complaining idiots and do your research! BE IFORMED!!
Who cares is Fred Thompson or even RONALD REAGAN himself comes fromt the grave to win the election.  Mitt Romney is the obvious choice the RNC is wanting to win the nomination.  He's more a sheep than a shepperd.  
Our country, the United States Of America was founded on Legal and Illegal Immigration (Dont believe me then read previous past census books in your County and find the facts).
Third, your fellow Republican President George W. Bush signed into law, the Amero Union, part of NAFTA Act.  Which in the very soon future will vanquish the need for Green Cards and State I.D.'s.  Dont believe then look into it!
How funny how our forefather who started this country wanted to eliminate "BIG GOVERNMENT" and here we are today US the PEOPLE with no rights!!!
So stop complaining idiots and do your research! BE IFORMED!!
"...table wine would cost $50 a bottle and most small restaurants couldn't function without the wait staff or cooking staff."

Dealio, restaurants here in mid-America do just fine. Right now my oldest daughter would LOVE to have a job as wait or cooking staff, but there are no openings.
The differences between the left,right and center reminds me of a tornado that won't stop spinning.  Ask yourself what does a tornado actually do; SPINS, destroys homes and lives.  Get real people, your views and opinos overflow with anger and dreams of revenge. Draw a line in the dirt and step over in the direction of positive thinking.  It really feels good.  
All of you illegal supporters are assininely ignorant..  You typed the words and you still don't understand the word "illegal".  There are systems in place to legally enter this great country eventhough they may take years to overcome.  Just because we are a democracy doesn't mean that every one in the world has a right to come here illegally and exploit the systems we have in place for ourselves.  I don't understand the thought process of anyone who would support illegal immagrants.  I think most of the proud americans that live in this great country would gladly pay a little extra for our every day items to have our own legal citizens perform the work that the illegals are doing.  And yes I have performed many of these jobs myself being from an agricultural area.  So that issue of not having anyone to perform these jobs is a complete misconception.  I don't think there are enough Homeland Security forces currently to do it but the first thing we need to do to remedy this issue is kick all of these illegals out of the country and make it extremely difficult for any of them to return illegally.  Then we can address the issues of farming and cheap labor personell once we get a hold on the situation.
Listen my children!  Unless you live next door, and are on a day to day inter-action with all the illegals that are here not only from Mexico, although, the majority are, no one can actually speak ato this issue. There is a major change in our landscape, I no longer feel as though this is my America!  But this is the land of the illegals that are holding us hostage, by their demands, wants and needs.  I am in the trenches with these Mexian illegals, and if you were to live next door to them, then maybe you would be able  to understand.  All these politicians who think that these illegal Mexican are just hard workers, some are and some aren't, and they will not or do want to assimilate themselves to our country, how sad that our politicians seem to think they know what the American citizens want, they do whatever they want.  It's time we get wise and smart and not bow down to corporate enterprises, nor the Kennedy's type mentality that we need to give to the Mexican illegals.  Let the Mexican Government take care of their own.  Send them back and give them direction to band together and protest against their government.  Otherwise, they will continue to take, take, and take some more.  Our government just does not "GET IT".  Out of over 100 Mexican couples, and individuals that I know on a personal level, their is not one whom is honest.  What they are looking for is the "Giving" that we Americans are know for.
To pat in huntington and notalemming, hillary HAS been asked about spitzers plan and she would not give a concise answer. don't you know the poll hasn't come out yet. wait for the poll and her highness will side with the majority like a good clinton always does.
Fred Thompson's main qualification to be President is a deep voice (he sounds so authoritative).  Oh yes, he is tall, too.
Fred Thompson
is an empty suit and should go back to hollywood.  

New Independent,

Your GOP senators and the president passed a law recently to allow Mexican truck drivers to freely drive anywhere in the United States. So, I would actually feel better for an illegal to take a driving test and get his driving licence than a Mexican trucker rooling an 8 wheel truck on US highways.
This article gives another reason why Giuliani isn’t the right man for office.  Fred Thompson definietly seems like one of the best candidates so far.  America needs a true Republican, not some moderate or liberal.  About illegal immigration, do people not see the term "illegal" in front of it or are they just blind to the meaning of illegal.  Wake up America!  America can survive without the help of illegal immigrants.  If you want to come here, COME LEGALLY, OBEY THE LAW, and SPEAK/LEARN ENGLISH!!
Wallace M Balazic Van Buren, Arkansas:

"Do you really want slick Billy & Hilly with that kind of power?  You bleeding heart liberals are all the same! She will pass out licenses for everything on every street corner to get elected! Get ready for the end of Democracy as we know it!"

Really?!?  "The end of Democracy as we know it"???  Are you saying that "the end of Democracy as we know it" right now, under the Bush mis-administration, is a BAD thing?  Personally, I can't wait for Jan 20, 2009, the day we can begin working to RESTORE democracy (not to mention wisdom and sanity) to America.
By the way (and I expect this point will be lost on you), liberals are not all "bleeding hearts" or "the same", any more than conservatives are all "right wing fanatics", or "neocon warmongers".  But it's pretty easy to believe the worst about conservatives when reading postings from conservatives like you.
He reminds me of Reagan.  Just another actor with Alzeimers.
Man, some of you really have a heat on for Hillary...too bad your boys on the right are so pathetic that you won't bother to comment on them..lmao
Wallace M Balazic Van Buren, Arkansas:  Yes, right, we liberals are "all the same."  We all worship the ground Hillary walks on--NOT!

I think the woman's a typical mealy-mouthed politician and I don't trust her.  However, if she does get the nomination, I'd have choose her as the lesser of 2 evils.
By the way, as for the issue of immigration, I keep hearing/seeing fellow Dems bring out the "Statue of Liberty" argument (of which I believe bornintheusa missed the point.  The reference, if I'm not mistaken, is to the poem inscribed on her base) and the fact that there didn't used to be immigration laws.  True enough and I understand the point, but we need to look at current reality and the future.  Now we do have these laws, so they ought to be enforced. I don't really see anyone discussing the issue of where we are going to put all these millions who unlawfully enter the US every year if the current rate continues.  We are in favor of protecting our environment and preserving as much land for natural and natural resources as possible.  How do we reconcile the two issues?  What about our other resources?  There are more and more factory closings and layoffs already, more jobs leaving the country, more people needing assistance because of low wages, and so on. Can we really support such continued massive growth in our population?  I understand people wanting to come here for a better life, but I do think they need to go through legal channels to do it.


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