Pelosi fires back at Bush

Posted: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:13 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: White House, Congress, Mike Viqueira

From NBC's Mike Viqueira
"What does he have to show for his presidency?" Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked today, with her hands outstretched. She said that the president is talking about his library, but all he will have to put in it is "tax cuts for the wealthy" and "a war with no end that is a failure."

"He stoops to a level that is beneath the office" of the president, she concluded.

Pelosi was responding the the red meat dished up by President Bush in a speech today at the conservative Heritage Foundation.

On the war supplemental monies, she said that the president has "wasted billions" and that the request will be the subject of "harsh scrutiny." Democrats are likely to approve a small portion of the $196 billion now and wait until next year to send the rest.

Yet Pelosi said that she, too, doesn't approve of the job that Congress is doing. She was asked why, despite recent efforts by Democrats to tout their accomplishments this year, Congress has such a low approval rating. You might say her answer was counterintuitive.

"I don't approve of Congress, because we haven't been effective in ending the war in Iraq," she said, adding that "if you asked me in a phone call" from a pollster, she would herself be counted in the disapproval column.

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What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?

Bruce, NV (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:24 PM)

MK Rawlings (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:24 PM)

I have a great deal of respect for Nancy Pelosi, but in the same token, am disenchanted (to say the least) with all of congress. Last November the majority of Americans spoke and the congress is not listening. If you want to end this debacle and stop the bloodshed, there is one simple way to do it. Stop enabling this narcistic and idealogical who refers to himself as the decider by cutting the funding. No $, no war!!! It's very simple. Stop playing politics with our troops lives and bring back our National Guard to defend this country on our home soil. I have never been this disgusted in my whole life and hold most politicians in very low esteem. This system is definitely broken. The corruption is ghastly and in good conscience I can't fathom how any one of them can get a good night's sleep.

Diane, Grand Blanc, MI (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:27 PM)

Maybe you should have run real Liberals for those seats you picked up instead of conservatives. Of course you wouldn't have your job as speaker. Republicans got routed because they were acting too much like democrats with the spending not because the whole country suddenly has the Sad Fransicko state of mind.

Dave, Tn (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:27 PM)

BUSH HAS GONE OFF THE "DEEP END" IN LA LA LAND. AND YES HE SUCKS !

Z (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:34 PM)

Y'all feel better? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the Democrats don't haev enough votes to ocerride a veto, but you guys are pissed at Democrats. Getted pissed at the stonewalling Republicans who still march in lockstep with the Decider. Thats why we are still in Iraq!
A good economy? You ARE delusional!

SONIC/Corpus (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:35 PM)

Reams of paper from senseless investigations
MK Rawlings

--- brace yourself if you are bothered now. The investigations have not even begun. There is so much wrong doing and corruption that it will take 10-15 years and hundreds of investigators to complete the job. Might as well start building the Bush wing of Leavenworth now. As for the money, it will be well spent.

nuanced (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:37 PM)

"A new paradigm for peace in the middle east"?

I guess you could call perpetual war that, but you have to be a registered republican.

"A senseless investigation"

Nothing that sounds anything like the repugs from 1992 - 2000, but I agree - war crimes, torture, treasonously outing a covert agent in the WAR ON TERROR - all senless investigations, but again, you have to be a registered republican.

Lee in CA (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:39 PM)

The only thing I detest about Pelosi is that she took impeachment off the table.By now we could probably had this corrupt buch on trial and squirming.Disgusting---never too late Miss Pelosi

HMT-MI (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:39 PM)

So, Diane, they should just cut the funding, what, today? Not another cent, right? And the troops are stuck out in Iraq, with no way to get home, no supplies, etc.

So, Diane, how does that support the troops?

Bruce, NV (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:47 PM)

Stop giving in to Bush, Nancy !!
Stop funding the war, Nancy !!

Add Schip funding to the Iraq funding bill !!
No Schip, no WAR !!

Sierra, SF (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:50 PM)

"He stoops to a level that is beneath the office" of the president, she concluded.....she says that, but what does she do? Start impeachment? "a war without end..." but what does she do? Stop funding? blah blah blah political double talk from ALL OF EM. Its impossible to be a politician in the current system & not SUCK. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

PJ (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:52 PM)

MK Rawlings wrote, "A new paradigm for peace in the middle east.
A great economy
Safety from terrorists on our soil
Well funded health care for seniors and poor children
Lots of good jobs for people that want to work hard"

What universe are you living in fruitcake?

Peter, Pittsburgh, PA (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:54 PM)

Hey Bruce, NV...they CAN cut the funding & there IS money to bring em home...stop buying that garbage argument. Blame George Bush for this DISASTER.

PJ (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:54 PM)

Nancy Pelosi needs to go somewhere and shut up. She shows just how ignorant she is. Her job is to forge relationships with the other side, not chastize constantly. If they dont come together it will always be a stalemate. I dont believe the country as a whole put Dems in power because they love them, I think some was just punishing the Repubs for acting like democrats. This country is majority to the right, I dont care how you twist polls, taht is the way it has always been. If the democrats have such a mandate and have so much backing, then why cant they get anything through. Clinton got a few things through with a Republican Congress. She is going to have to come off of that San Franisco attitude or she will find herself just another congresswoman again. BTW I am a Democrat but I dont care for her.

Devin Oakley, NV (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:01 PM)

Dubya has Saddam, stuffed and holding a sign that says, "Got One of THESE, Poppy?", ready to display in his Libary. That in itself, should bring in them there 24 per cent who still worship him, plus a couple dozen freakos a week who don't.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:04 PM)

Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted...these dimwit dems can't even keep their own people in line...thats why the dems will have a hard time convincing anyone they mean business...they don't

Rick, WS, NC (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:06 PM)

If the Dems. had enough votes to override Dubya's vindictive, shameful, destructive and dangerous vetos do you neocons really believe that we would have even half of the troops in Iraq that we now have? If the Dems. had enough votes to override Dumbyas vetos, do you honestly believe that he would be asking for BILLIONS of $$$ more to pour into that rat hole in Iraq?
Question for any conservative (democratic or republicrook)...What is your definition of "WE WON" in Iraq? Dumbya has already claimed: "Mission Accomplished." Why don't you believe him? Is it because he is a habitual liar?

A.Brocco, Albuquerque,NM (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:07 PM)

Hey PJ...whose gonna make Bush bring them home? Are you? At this point, only an authorization from Congress can do that...and we have all seen the results of those attempts.

Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:18 PM)

Congress holds the purse strings per that document Bush so detests, the Constitution. Congress should cut off the Executive branch from all further funds. Let Mr. Petulent operate his assumed feifdom out of pocket. Let him sit there and sign his little vetoes and signing statements while having no money with which to operate and manipulate. Ms. Pelosi is attempting to get this Congress and the country back to the rule of law rather than the rule of Bush. he clearly doesn't like to be challenged. He never met a bill he didn't like under his Republican rubber-stamp Congress. Now he talks of "compromise" but it's all talk. He's never been a leader, a president of all the people. He's been, and continues to be a disaster.

R.Merrell (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:24 PM)

What universe are you living in fruitcake?

So Petey-pie. What accomplishments can Ms. Pelosi put on her year end review? I guess she did also bring that message of peace to Syria from Israel. You know, the one that Israel had to deny giving the moment it crossed her lips. Then there was that nonbinding resolution condemning as genocide the killing of Armenians starting in 1915. That was helpful, it calmed things down in the Middle East.

Smog a little heavy in Pittsburgh today Petey?

See, this is the problem with the Bush haters. They don't believe that there actions have consquences. And the consequences of their actions this year have all been negative.

MK Rawlings (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:27 PM)

George W. Bush:
~ Unending debt
~ Unending war
~ Unending intrusion into your privacy

Nancy Pelosi has been in control of the House for 10 months now; GWB has been in control of our nation for seven years.

She does not have a veto-proof majority.

And the Senate is split 49-49 D's and R's (not 51-49, which is what is most often reported)

That said, I vote for impeachment being the MAIN COURSE on the table.
And, yes, I will welcome more investigations into and accountability from The Worst President Ever, as a tasty sidedish.

Jan, Nashua, NH (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:30 PM)

Disaster?

Yes, until about 6 months ago. Now, the tide is turning and Nancy and Senator Reid (D-MoveOn.org) want to cut and run. It's no surprise that if there were an election today, Reid would lose.

Bruce, NV (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:39 PM)

There is, never was, and never will be peace in the middle east, competing tribes, religions and the last area to support a feudal monarchy is not my kind of almost a democracy kind a place. The neo-con love fest envisioned by this administration has been the best fairy tale ever sold to the american public.
We are fooling ourselves if we believe that two oil men in the White House and Iraq are a coincidence. 100 dollars a barrel will be cheap if we let them create another broken oil supplier (IRAN), the price will skyrocket and the economies all over the world will tank big time! The oil industries will reap a last gluttonous amount of money before we run out of fossil fuels. That is also why Saudi Arabia is real nervous of the future, their leverage in the world will diminish and then they will have an uprising on their hands that will make the wars to spread the muslim religion seem like childs play. We must put more reaserch and development into of alternative energy, including nuclear, It is our future and it is the end of oil and the middle east hegemonies and we will gain new industries and cleaner environment to live in, we owe this to future generations and we can see that this is where we must go. lets do it, we don't need to save an old run out industry like oil, we did it with steel and we will do it in the end to oil.

John S. Alexander, Edinboro, PA (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:40 PM)

I like Nancy Pelosi, I really do. She pretty consistently makes smart/wise decisions, rather than act as a left-wing reactionary. She knows which battles to pick. My main criticism of Pelosi relates to the war. The democrats need to come together and take a unified stance on these major issues, even if they can't get 60 or 67 to override a veto. The republicans are doing this, and they are getting what they want on issue after issue, amazing. I'm not sure that I place blame for the lack of unity on her though.

I can never understand the strategy of democrats belittling their top leaders. They attack Pelosi and who remembers "John Kerry is a douche, but I'll vote for him anyway." Compare that to the republicans who 30% still support Bush, and he's doing a TERRIBLE job. Now, that's devotion. Maybe the dems have some things to learn from the repubs.

Harry Reid on the other hand ...

--NSMSNBC (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:41 PM)

Pelosi is right on all points.

The Bush administration remains America's Nightmare.

There are no words for this abomination... no words.

Every American has a piece of the action, either by oblivion, omission, or outright support of this right-wing coup d'etat.

First in line, corporate masters, all their slaves, Republicans of all shades, spineless, ignorant, whorish, media, Congress, whiny, neutered, Democrats, people of faith, intellectuals, potheads and rednecks... about in that order...

Where have the prophets been? Selling favor, of course.
Business is business... and K Street pays well.

As Janis said just before she ODed that one last time, "Get it while you can..."

That she did.

Hand over heart now, let us stand for our National Anthem:

"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz, my friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends..."

Mark Thieme (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:41 PM)

If Pelosi were actually willing to support meaningful investigations and movement toward Impeachment I might begin to care what she has to say. Until then she's as much a part of the Bush Administration as any of his lick-spittles as far as I'm concerned, and can be ignored.

She and Reid both have turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to the change demanded by the people in November 2006. She should be as ashamed of herself as Hillary should be for their continuing support of the Bush administration and its policies.

Justin, Gainesville FL (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:42 PM)

PJ, will it be like when we bailed out of Saigon because the Congress cut off all of the money?

Bruce, NV (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:43 PM)

You also have to say Nancy has given a good home to all the code pink broads that have been camping out in her gardens......

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:44 PM)

Mk Rawlings, now that was THE funniest, most ridiculous statement I have ever read on First Read. Thanks for making me laugh out loud!woooooweeeee!!

FStLouis (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:45 PM)

The Surge is working as comfrmed by these latest reports: We should send our Senators and Congressmen to fill the void I bet you would see a real effort then to end the Conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Iraq postings are mandatory, Rice tells staff
Hundreds booed State policy, liken it to 'potential death sentence'“The secretary is going to send out a cable worldwide to people talking about this decision as well as encouraging people to serve in Iraq,”
"It's one thing if someone believes in what's going on over there and volunteers, but it's another thing to send someone over there on a forced assignment," Crotty said. "I'm sorry, but basically that's a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?"
Army short on combat supply help, experts say
2,000 staff needed just for contracts, Pentagon panel warns in report the Pentagon said the Army "lacks the leadership and personnel (military and civilian) to provide sufficient contracting support." The Army has seen a 600 percent increase in workload and is dealing with more complex contracts, yet staffing has consistently declined or remained stagnant since 1990.

Paw Paw, NC (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:46 PM)

Well, much of the congress has tried to pass legislation, but the Republicans in congress, in the simple interest of voting harmoniously (who gives a crap if the rest of the country is telling them in the November 06 election they have been pulling this nation in the wrong direction) have obstructed much of it. Look at SCHIP: the original bill was a result of compromise between republicans and democrats in the senate. Even Senators from the President's own party say he simply doesn't understand the bill. I think he does, but he simply wants to help out his pals in the insurance industry by limiting the number covered under SCHIP. Apparently the President believes $1200 / month for private health insurance to be affordable by most in the middle class. For someone who has probably never had to worry about money for his entire life, this is completely understandable. His presidency will be remembered as one of the more shameful episodes in U.S. History. Too bad he has 14 months left in office. If he doesn't get us wound up in WWIII (his words) by the end of his tenure, it will be a miracle.

Tommy (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:46 PM)

Bruce, NV: '...What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?

Bruce, the crooked Republicans are out of poewr and Abramoff's hold over America has been broken.
Congress no longer turns a blind eye to the Bush regime's corruption.
Alberto gonzalez had to resign because Bush knew he couldn't get FISA with li'l Alberto

And it pissed off a lot of dumb ass Republicans, like you !!! ;-0

Sierra, SF (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:48 PM)

A NATIONAL SURVY HAS SHOWN THAT OVER 99.9% OF THE COUNTRY AGREES THAT "BUSH SUCKS".OVER 100% THINKS HE'S A IDIOT ! THIS INCLUDES ARE FRIENDS TO THE NORTH IN CANADA. NOT BAD AIGH !

Y (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:49 PM)

George:

A new paradigm for peace in the middle east.
A great economy
Safety from terrorists on our soil
Well funded health care for seniors and poor children
Lots of good jobs for people that want to work hard

Nancy:

Minimum wage increase (whose value has been taxed away by local and state governments)
Reams of paper from senseless investigations
MK Rawlings (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:24 PM)

Allow me to bring your statement in line with reality.

George:

A new foreign policy predicated on endless and preemptive war.
An economy that is wonderful if you fall in the top 5% of Americans but not likely to be of much benefit if you are making less than $250,000.
An enduring (and mostly fabricated) sense of fear that the terrorists will one day attack us again.
A veto on health care for America's children and a ban on allowing the elderly to shop for prescription drug prices in Canada (or any other market that isn't completely dominated by US pharma)
Lots of pardons and sweet heart deals for CEOs that contribute to the GOP and political opperatives that are willing to take a fall for the Commander Guy.

Nancy:

An increase in the minimum wage that benefits many hard working Americans.
A committed fight for health care for America's children (and shame on the GOP for supporting that veto).
An expansion of student loan programs for Americans who want to better themselves.
Congress, finally, taking steps to restore the Constitution and prevent a unitary executive.
Investigations into governmental ethical lapses and general corruption.

John Doe, The Peanut Gallery (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:57 PM)

Let me get this straight. Ms. Impeachment-is-off-the-table-before-she-even-took-office Pelosi is saying she doesn't think Congress is doing well due to the Iraq war. Right?

First Read says "Yet Pelosi said that she, too, doesn't approve of the job that Congress is doing. She was asked why, despite recent efforts by Democrats to tout their accomplishments this year, Congress has such a low approval rating. You might say her answer was counterintuitive.

"I don't approve of Congress, because we haven't been effective in ending the war in Iraq," she said, adding that "if you asked me in a phone call" from a pollster, she would herself be counted in the disapproval column."

Well - here is what Ms. Pelosi said last month (note the part about ending the war. Leaders. Right.):

Comments would be superfluous. Sigh.

The Washington Post's Dana Milbank reports on a lunch for reporters where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was surprisingly candid:

"Look," she said, the chicken breast on her plate untouched. "I had, for five months, people sitting outside my home, going into my garden in San Francisco, angering neighbors, hanging their clothes from trees, building all kinds of things--Buddhas? I don't know what they were--couches, sofas, chairs, permanent living facilities on my front sidewalk." Unsmilingly, she continued: "If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they would be arrested for loitering, but because they have 'Impeach Bush' across their chest, it's the First Amendment."

"We have to make responsible decisions in the Congress that are not driven by the dissatisfaction of anybody who wants the war to end tomorrow," Pelosi told the gathering at the Sofitel, arranged by the Christian Science Monitor. Though crediting activists for their "passion," Pelosi called it "a waste of time" for them to target Democrats. "They are advocates," she said. "We are leaders."

"What do you see as your greatest mistake?" asked one reporter. Pelosi smiled. "Why don't you tell me?" she proposed. She smiled again, then laughed. " 'Cause I think we're doing just great."

Source: (by way of WSJ Opinion Journal) Wash Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7100902006.html

Independent, Texas (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:02 PM)

"Maybe you should have run real Liberals for those seats you picked up instead of conservatives. Of course you wouldn't have your job as speaker. Republicans got routed because they were acting too much like democrats with the spending not because the whole country suddenly has the Sad Fransicko state of mind.
Dave, Tn (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:27 PM)"

Dave, the GOP is dying because people like you won't allow the moderate conservatives to exist as Republicans anymore. Has it never worried you that those conservatives with a D next to their names would have run as a Republican before Bush the Lesser took office? He has made it so that the only way to be a Republican is to be a complete right wing nutjob. And you sit around acting like it's a good thing while the country slowly votes your party out of existance. How funny will you find idiots like Coulter when your party is down to 40 Senators?

Remind me to thank you in November of 2008. We really couldn't have had the successes that we have had without people like you, Dave.

John Doe, The Peanut Gallery (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:06 PM)

It is strange that Congress is getting a "bad rap" when Bush is vetoing everything they try to do. He never used his VETO powers once when the Republicians were spending all the money and getting this country in deep debt.

Connie, Tn. (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:06 PM)

"What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?"

Well she raised the minimum wage for the first time in 10 years.

She passed all the recommendations of the 9/11 commission which the GOP could not do

She lowered the cost of financial aid so kids can attend college.

Just to name a few….

FL (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:07 PM)

Our Congress is an excellent example of why a democracy will never work in the Middle East. If we were as polarized as the people in Iraq, then democracy would not work here either. Congress would not or could not accomplish anything.

TEC-Spring-Tx (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:08 PM)

"Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted."..

Not true…. Clinton had his way with Gingrich and the GOP. That’s why they lost seats in 98 after they pushed to far.

B (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:09 PM)

In today's polarized political climate, forging relationships with the other side is just not possible. The rift between the sides is too deep, and neither side is willing/able to compromise, and that cannot be blamed on Pelosi. Changing the political climate is best for the role of President, but this is not the thread to get into which candidate could best accomplish that and who is the most polarizing.

--NSMSNBC (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:13 PM)

Just a little food for thought:

How much of the original $9 billion dollars "unaccounted for" in Iraq would it take to buy the effective inaction of every member in both parties in both houses of Congress?

How about two-thirds of them?

Not rah-rah speeches in support of the war -- just continued funding?

How much of the $9 billion would be left after you did it? (I figure well over half, at the very least.)

'Course, this is just a useless, aimless hypothetical series of questions: We all know that each and every elected Representative of the People is fearless, incorruptible, and would never, EVER play politics with something as serious as a nationally ruinous war -- not even for, let's say, $5 million bucks. Or even 10. (That would put us at a mere $535,000,000 or so, which still leaves us plenty of that $9 billion to play with when it comes to The Hard Cases.)

S I wouldn't worry about it, I was you ...

Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NM (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:13 PM)

I keep seeing people throwing out approval numbers for President Bush that range from 22% - 25%. (Not just this thread, but others as well). The 3 most recent polls to come out are Quinnipiac (35%), Rasmussen (37%), and Fox News (35%). Now I know most of you will instantly throw out Fox News, but I can't see you throwing out all 3. In fact, 4 of the 5 polls released in the past 2 weeks show an approval rating of 35% or higher. (Quinn, Ras, Fox, and LA Times). Pew had it at 30%.

I'm not swiping at anyone here, but I am curious where these 22% and 24% numbers keep coming from.

Frank "Grimey" Grimes, Springfield, USA (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:16 PM)

My $0.02,

There is one way, and one way only, for a congressional majority without veto-proof numbers to bring the troops home: cut the funding. While I want the troops out of this disaster as much as anyone, listen to Joe Biden on this. Cutting the funding means the troops run out of gas, food, and bullets. The troops will come home when we have a competent CINC in the White House to bring them home, not a minute before.

Adam Columbus OH (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:17 PM)

Rick, WS, NC: '...Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted...these dimwit dems can't even keep their own people in line...

Rick, the difference is that Bush is a REAL Republican. He won't compromise.

If you remember 'Slick Willie', he was Republican-light and he 'triangulated' his policies.

Clinton sold out the Democratic agenda
(see NAFTA, WTO, corporate welfare, telecommunications monopoly...)
So, if Bush wants to sell out his party like Clinton sold out the Democrats, we can probably do business.

Bush actually has a little more decency than Bill (or Hillary) Clinton....

Sierra, SF (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:20 PM)

Bruce,

"Disaster?

Yes, until about 6 months ago."

So the violence in Iraq has settled down to January 2006 levels. Wonderful. You are aware, that barring extending deployments **again** this surge will come to an end next year? We do not have, and will not have barring a draft, enough troops to put this broken society back together again.

Adam Columbus OH (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:20 PM)

Sorry -- 535 x 10,000,000 = 5,350,000,000; or well over half of that $9 billion.

Guess that invalidates my point!

Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NM (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:21 PM)

Too bad the only people that like hitler err bush are the richest and are making money on dead soldiers and the others are the poverty stricken mind controled religious patsys that are coming home in boxes.

veda (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:22 PM)

My question is is there a mens room in the White House?

Larry Craig (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:30 PM)

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