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Oh-eight (R): A house divided...

Posted: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:09 AM by Mark Murray
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So how divided are social conservatives, especially after the Robertson, Brownback, and Weyrich endorsements? The Washington Post takes a look and still finds evangelicals (Richard Land, Family Research Council) who won't support Giuliani.

GIULIANI: The Los Angeles Times' Wallsten examines how Giuliani has become the front-runner. "With his intense demeanor and aggressive policy stances -- such as pledging to ‘prevent’ Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon or to ‘set them back five or 10 years’ -- Giuliani has methodically built an image as the toughest guy on the block, unafraid of looking belligerent in the cause of keeping America safe. Though it isn't always pretty up close, Giuliani's demeanor seems to be working. He leads the national polls for a Republican nomination that many believed he could never win because of his relatively liberal views on abortion and other social issues.”

The New York Times describes how Giuliani courted Robertson. "The unlikely alliance emerged from a behind-the-scenes friendship that began with a shared flight back from Israel in 2003. It grew through commiserations about prostate cancer and even included a videotaped salute delivered by Mr. Giuliani at Mr. Robertson’s 75th birthday."

Salon's Schapiro talks to South Carolina Republicans to see if the Robertson endorsement will move things for Giuliani in this key state. "A quick canvass of South Carolina political experts produced the tentative conclusion that Robertson's blessing will register only at the margins, if at all. ‘The Christian right is always locally autonomous, and they don't take direction from their presumed leaders. I don't think this will signal a mass stampede by the evangelicals to Giuliani,’ said Danielle Vinson, a political science professor at Furman University."

The New York Times’ Gail Collins offers up a taste of the type of press Giuliani should expect receiving if he's the nominee. "It does seem true that miraculous things happen when conservative leaders meet with Giuliani behind closed doors. Maybe they just find Mitt Romney extremely irritating. Maybe Rudy has a secret grip, like the Vulcan mind-meld or one of those sleeper holds they used to have in professional wrestling, that fills his victims with an irrational degree of trust. Or maybe his leadership is so powerful that people exposed to it find it impossible to doubt the sincerity of his every word."

One of the next big hurdles for Giuliani to clear is to survive the coverage of Bernie Kerik’s indictment, which begins Friday apparently.

The New York Post: “The charges are expected to include tax evasion, conspiracy and receiving an unlawful gift of $165,000 in renovations to his Bronx apartment from a mob-linked construction firm while he was Correction Department commissioner under then-Mayor Giuliani.”

The Boston Globe profiles Giuliani in its occasional series on the presidential candidates. “A man who has spent most of his adulthood in public life, Giuliani, now 63, has retained a tight team of loyalists, some dating to his boyhood,” the paper writes. “Many were at his side on Sept. 11, 2001, when the terrorist attacks transformed him into the face of New York and its horror, humanity, grief, and resilience.”

More evidence to back up Rudy’s claim that he puts more states in play if he's the GOP nominee:  A Quinnipiac poll of Connecticut voters has Giuliani as the only Republican who is competitive with all the leading Dem candidates. |

Meanwhile, a poll of Pennsylvania voters also shows Giuliani's strength versus his fellow GOP foes when matched up against Clinton.

HUCKABEE: In Iowa yesterday, Huckabee talked up his fix for the education system, which includes advocating more arts.

MCCAIN: Wow, did the Giuliani-Robertson story drown out the McCain-Brownback news. It appears the Robertson rollout was ready sooner, as the media was alerted of this "major" endorsement early Tuesday; by comparison, it was late Tuesday that the McCain folks began circulating news that they too would be unveiling a major endorsement -- perhaps hoping their news would trump Giuliani. Newsweek looks at how Brownback could help McCain. "What will Brownback's endorsement mean for McCain? It's hard to say. Brownback's biggest support was in Iowa, where he was widely respected by many social conservatives.”

The Arizona Republic reports that McCain has shifted his immigration stance a bit. "McCain has hardened his position on immigration reform, hoping the new stand will make his presidential campaign more appealing to conservative Republican voters. The comprehensive approach he championed for years, one that emphasized a guest-worker program and legalization for those here illegally, has taken a back seat to a plan that puts a priority on tightening border security and beefing up enforcement. The enforcement-first approach marks a dramatic shift for McCain, R-Ariz., who used his border-state credentials and maverick persona to become the leading Republican proponent in Congress of comprehensive immigration reform."

The AmSpec's Jennifer Rubin examines why McCain appears to be on the comeback: "First, if time does not heal all wounds, it certainly lessens them… Second, as Iran looms large both on the international stage and as a campaign issue, his foreign policy expertise once again becomes a strong selling point… Third, frugality is back in fashion and McCain is second to none in the cheapskate department... Fourth, social conservatives and those looking to avoid a GOP civil war may look upon McCain as the best alternative… Fifth, ‘authenticity’ is in."

PAUL: He continues to garner plenty of press coverage, thanks to his fundraising success.

ROMNEY: The New York Times writes about Romney's attempts to project himself as the lead optimist of the GOP field. "Each of the leading Republican contenders has sought to channel in some way the shiny optimism that helped make Ronald Reagan, who famously campaigned on the slogan that it was ‘morning again in America,’ so popular. But it is Mr. Romney who has most thoroughly incorporated such sunbeamy phrases and anecdotes into his repertory on the stump… Romney’s campaign believes that harnessing positive language is an effective way for him to distinguish himself from his rivals, like Rudolph W. Giuliani, whose relentless focus on the threat of Islamic terrorism can feel dark to some, and Senator John McCain, who has maintained a dour resolve about the Iraq war."

Meanwhile, the Columbia State reports that, slowly but surely, Romney's investment in South Carolina is starting to pay off. "As recently as late September, Romney was polling consistently in the single digits and was typically in fourth place. But recent surveys show the former Massachusetts governor surging, as voters have gotten to know Romney and he has earned the endorsement of key evangelicals such as Bob Jones III, former chancellor of the fundamentalist Greenville university of the same name." Indeed, Romney has benefited from the fact that he's been on the air alone in South Carolina.

THOMPSON: Bob Novak skewers Fred Thompson for saying on NBC’s Meet the Press, "I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors." And: "You can't have a [federal] law" that "would take young, young girls . . . and say, basically, we're going to put them in jail." Novak writes, “Those comments sent e-mails flying across the country reflecting astonishment and rage by pro-life Republicans who had turned to Thompson as their best presidential bet. No anti-abortion legislation ever has proposed criminal penalties against women having abortions, much less their parents. Jailing women is a spurious issue raised by abortion-rights activists.”

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Kudos to "The Ayatollah Robertson!"
His endorsement of "Gigolo Rudy 'G'" ensures a Democratic victory in 2008!
People of TRUE faith know that God will not smite them for doing the opposite of what "Psycho Pat" tells them.


Wow.. looks like you did a lot of research on Huckabee, Mark.

There were a lot more news stories out there on Huckabee than just that one.
robertson sold out, there is no way a person with a religious or moral bone in their body could endorse someone like rudy, what's sad is it will probably work for rudy, people around here will vote for the perceived moral candidate without asking any questions
Giuliani and Romney neatly encapsulate the two approaches to government by Republicans.  Giuliani is the "strong daddy" who will go to whatever means necessary to keep us safe, even if it means taking our freedoms and hurting innocent people in the process.  Romney seeks to solve all of our problems by pretending they don't exist.
I applaud him for this. I think this proves that the GOP are fooling themselves into thinking a federal ban on abortion will happen. All of their major candidates have dropped the issue. The constitution should not be sullied with such non-sense. This is basically the same position Dems have taken and yet are villified by FoxNews and the right wing theocrats.
What's wrong with Thompson?

He's losing his staff, his constituency, and his states.  Just a disappointing couple of months since he officially entered.  In a way it's our fault I guess.  We painted the man we wanted in our Republican Candidate and he just isn't it I guess.

I just wonder what his breaking point is: at what point or following which primary would he make the announcement that it's over should he lose IA,NH,MI,SC?  
Does Robertson know about Guiliani's multiple forays into cross dressing too?  hehe.... Will "middle America" tolerate a cross-dressing, thrice married, alienated-from-his-children, social moderate who talks a "big show"?  <eyeroll>
Giuliani a "protector"?  Another chickenhawk poser!
Social conservative leaders try to steer their flock to a specific republican candidate so they can hold onto their great wealth and keep the IRS at arms length. They are not true Christians. Bombing innocent people, torture, treason, the loss of civil liberties ALL acceptable to these kooks so long as you hate gays and protect embryos. I pray for the loss of their influence.
The preceding article on protectors shows why the Robertson thing worked; Evangelicals are scared to death of the boogeyment the GOP have set up, ready to give up, now, both their civil rights and their faith to be "safe".  I thought these guys believed in a heaven, and weren't supposed to fear death or anything else?  They're just as scared as the rest of the "protector" types, and Rudy G. is acting like Mussolini the Protecotor, so the fearful God-folk will flock to him, no matter what his policies on social issues.
"Romney seeks to solve all of our problems by pretending they don't exist."

What kind of idiotic unqualified statement was that?  Romney has listed many problems with our country - and solutions to those problems.  He's methodical and actually knows how to execute a strategy.  He is very successful for a reason - a proven leader.  

Since I nailed you for dishing out an unqualified statement, here's some qualification for mine.

Health Care - Romney is the only candidate on either side that has actually implemented anything on health care reform - but he knows that what he did in Mass will not work as a nationwide plan - so he has made a separate plan for the feds that makes sense.

Education - Just recently, Romney said we need to ensure that teachers are treated as professionals and paid according to their performance.  Something many of us have agreed with for years, but he will actually  work to make it happen.

Family - Romney recently discussed the problem we have with too many children in foster care, etc.  He wants to make the adoption tax exemption permanent, because it is set to expire.

Economy - Romney wants to kill capital gains taxes for people making under 200k per year.  This will allow those of us in the lower and middle class to actually save money - without penalty.  Then we can put it down on a car, house, or anything we want.  We can retire early - whatever we choose - without penalties.  

Do your homework.  Bashing Romney with unqualified only makes me believe you must just "not like" him as I have heard from others.  Most of those people just don't like him because he's Mormon - it's sad when people reject someone with a PERFECT resume just because of his faith.  Especially when you consider the amazing people that make up the Mormon community.

By the way, my list is not exhaustive.  Comments like "that's all?" will be ignored.  If you really want to be an informed voter, research every candidate with an open mind.  That's what I did.  And I like Romney.
None of this matters. It is in a very clear vision. We will have Hillary Clinton as our president.
I find it hard to understand why the american voters are so easy to fool. Its my opinion the top tier candidates in both partys souldnt be there.

On the republican side with  Giuliani and Romney,. America better watch there [six] with these two guys.
Giuliani:  Is nobody without 9/11 he stereotypes everything that comes out of his mouth. Giuliani is a fixed idea or iamge of himself.
Romney:  is a micro manager. just a better looking Bush
Thompson: A good VP.
Huckabee: just another Carter

On the democrats side with Hillary and Obama,. We are being flank by all the democrats on this health care issue. Blind side with oversimplification.
Hillary:  I have my doubts we already have the first women speaker of the house in history. Her first 100 hours turn out to be a one way ticket to a nothing show.          
Obama:  This guys is real scary talk about FAUTY LOGIC this man is a Harvard gratuate with a law degree I wouldnt let this guy handle a parking ticket for me.
Edwards:  All I see is Dan Quayle just go away to Mr Edwards.
Biden:  Is the best choice for a  the democrats. At lease he understands policy.
   
I don't think the American people or the media  fully understand this country is at war. This war is as real as real can get. A war started by a sitting United States President. In 2006 the Democrats took claim there party will end the war. The debate hosted by Tim Russert asked the question " Will you have the troops out by 2013?". Hillary, Obama and Edwards replied with the answer "NO". This reponse will continue the  body bags coming home intill 2013 and beyond. This war is a great big castle with four towers at each corner tower 1 is Iran  2 is Syria  3 is Pakistan              4 is Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The strategy was to put our military right smack in the middle of two court yards without secure borders the same dumb move has done in Vietnam. I guess we just have to face the fact america cant secure borders.    

Its been said about President Truman.
"As President, Truman made some of the most crucial decisiions in history".

The next Commander - in - Chief  takes office on January 20th, 2009. He/ she will have to handle this Middle East nightmare that President Bush has initally started. The new President will have to find a new edge to Foreign Policy. The right touch of Dipolmacy will be key.

Senator John McCain is the only candidate on record that can bring this nation back to the center .He is the only one that can strategically top Mr. Truman's decision-making. He is the only candidate to resolve and unite this nation without a big boom.
Do you like conspiracy theories?  For fun try this one.  The rich and powerful few, who the Bush administration has consistently catered to and who simply control so much, including having influence over the media (as is literally demonstrated), really don’t worry about whether it is Giuliani or Clinton as they have actually bought into both (likely Thompson and maybe others too).  And the theory continues that right now they are simply trying to convince the voters that Giuliani and Clinton are the only real choices, while knowing that either is okay for them.  Then the question is, ‘can they pull it off again or not?’

It may not be easy to buy into that thinking but just for fun play with it.  Do a ‘what if’?  Does it answer any questions?  Is it feasible?  Are there connections that substantiate it?  Could they accomplish that?  Does it really look like that is what is happening?  Whatever, but isn’t what is really important simply that the voters actually have the control and the options?  Do you think they actually do?  Or… are they being manipulated and used again?

Maybe we don’t like thinking like that and don’t want to give in to that logic, to admit that Special Interests and a select few could have that much control, possibly then we should just ask four questions:
1. Why else has the Bush administration consistently done everything to benefit those Special Interests and a select few, arrogantly offering subterfuge and deception to cover, at significant cost to America and the average American?
2. How else has all of that transpired with minimal criticism and no real effort to hold anyone accountable?
3. What else explains all that has transpired, what is transpiring and the direction everything is taking?
4. Whose country is it; who really has control?
Romney has bad judgment. Michael Vick is the only person who thinks it's normal behavior to strap the family dog to the roof of a car and hose it down after the dog makes a mess.
Besides I'd vote for someone who believes in an e-meter over someone who wears magical underwear any day.
I have no respect now for Pat Robinson. To throw aside his values and principles makes him a weak man, and should not be taken seriously by his "flock" Rudy has a lot more serious issues that gay marriage and backing sbortion.
Mr. Burns, your support for Romney appears to be delusional.

Healthcare-passed by the MA legislature but was Romney even in the State when this was being passed or did he just propose, leave and the return to sign the bill? Why not nationalized healthcare that is administered by health insurance companies?

Education- teachers should be treated as professionals and paid for performance. If the teacher is in the inner city and has classes of malcontents that do not wish to learn, is that their fault and there would be no raise? Mayb they should all be paid like CEO of large corporations, lose money, poor performance and still be paid millions. The pay for performance is a scam.

Family-the adoption tax should only be if the child aopted is American, not someone from the Ukraine or China.

Economy-kill the capital gains for people earning under 200k/year. Another scam for the well to do. How many people earning under 40k/year can buy and sell stocks?  Let's raise that to 70k and ask the same question. A family of four earning 70k is just getting by do you take into account income tax, health insurance, mortgage, car payment(s), car insurance, food, gasoline, etc.

I'm not bashing Romney because he is Mormon as I have has nothing but positive experiences with Mormons. I am questioning Romney on who is he really helping and it isn't the the remnants of the middle class.
It shows how phony these republicians are they will do anything to try to win even if it takes throwing away morals. Hilllary Clinton is our next president so you can cry now republcians!!!
Dave,

Health Care - Are you actually saying that Romney was out of town for the entire healthcare reform in Mass?  You implied it, but you are wrong.  He was instrumental in this effort.  Nobody denies this, even Ted.  No lies, please.

Education - Romney is not suggesting that we pay for the performance of children.  Have you looked at his proposal?  No, you have not.  As I said, educate yourseves, people.  In your scenario, teachers taking the jobs nobody wants would actually get paid for that inconvenience, just like U.S. Customs people make more in Alaska because nobody wants to live there.  It just makes sense.

Family - Adoption credits for U.S. kids only makes sense - I totally agree with you on that one.

Economy - The value of money changes wherever you go.  Where I live, in the Bay Area, buying a condo is out of reach unless you make 100k per year.  Buying a 3 bedroom house in a safe neighborhood is unattainable unless you make 150k.  For example, a house that I stopped to look at (with hope) about  mile from where I am sitting is average, and it is on the market for $917,000.  My brother who is in Mobile, Alabama is looking at houses that cost $80,000 and have twice the square footage.  He can afford it, and makes less than $50k per year.  The disparity is huge.  So think again when you consider us "rich" people over here.  We can't afford to do squat, even if we do make twice as much as you.  

At least Romney is not trying to help the super-rich.  This proposal has no bottom end, and it has a top-end.  Don't you think that's admirable?  Especially for  republican?  

Bottom line - Romney is smart, knows how to run just about anything, and he gives a crap about people.  
Psychic Mary / the crack pipe givith, and the crack pipe taketh away
Pat Robertson has made it clear he wants to have power and influence rather than do anything morally courageous.  Didn't he say Sharon went into a coma for abandoning the Gaza strip to terrorists?  I hope he's not judged by his own standards.

Guiliani could not be trusted by his own flesh and blood.  At least Bill Clinton did not destroy his marriage.  Pat Robertson has made clear his own contempt of marriage by endorsing an adulterer.  It is one thing to vote for the lesser evil, but to endorse evil is unconscionable.  And unless you think my only concern is Guiliani's complete lack of character, Guiliani's anti-terrorism stance is nothing more than harsh language and empty threats.  Bush is losing in Afghanistan and supporting dictatorship in Pakistan because he does not support our troops in the line of fire.  We do not need more of the same.

I am thoroughly disgusted.  The Republican Party deserves to die out if they run Guiliani.  If a conservative party makes a difference, even as a spoiler in 2008, the Republicans will be done, with or without Fox News.
Ah.. Mark, McCain has alzheimers. Just a small problem with him....better rethink your strategy.
Romneys religion is a cult. End of story.
You have paragraph after paragraph on Rudy Mitt and Mccain, but a quick squib for Huckabee and Paul.  You suggest that Paul is getting lots of coverage and then link to only one story?  ANd it is not available.

Does that help prove the conspiracy theories that the previous writer alludes to?  

And I do not support either Paul or Huckabee, just fairness.
Pat Robertson endorsing Giulani is like the devil baptizing the antichrist.  Pat Robertson has turned mainstream Christianity into a vector of hatred, intolerance, prejudice, and greed, in the name of the Prince of Peace.  The ultimate sin.  Giulani's goal is to con the 'value voters' into electing him based on the instruction of their evangelical leaders, so he can he expand the empire and kill millions more arabs while making billions of dollars for his neo-con aristocracy. Concurrently, he will sink America deeper into fascism, based on the fear he cultivates. You thought Bush was bad? This could be just the beginning..
MarkD, grow up. Why don't you open your tiny little mind and try exercising a bit of religious tolerance. I wonder what you think of Catholics who believe that a wafer that is placed in their mouths litterally becomes the body of Christ. Isn't that cannabalism? Or how about Jews who wear prayer boxes on their foreheads and arms in the synagogue. The garments that people of the LDS faith wear are sacred to them just as the crucifix is to a Catholic. It's narrow minded people like you who are currently running our country.  
"Romneys religion is a cult. End of story."

Sounds like you've been brainwashed.  I wonder who's part of a cult now...?

What religion isn't a bit cult-ish?  Be careful what you say about other religions.  Someday you may wish the Mormons were there for you.  If a cult teaches good principles, is it worth disparaging?  

Pure hatred.  You must be a Christian.
Mark D, thanks for the magic underwear comment, you must be an expert of Mormon theology. F StLouis, if you can name one thing about Mormonism that makes it a cult that isn't in some way true about all Christian churches I'll be glad to hear it.
I would shout from the roof tops 100 times if I could!
Romney is the Man!!! There is something, dignified, honest and powerful about him.  I don't care what his religion is, except that he is non-wavering in it. Being that his religion is the only thing hindering him in reality you'd think being the "flip flopper" that he allegedly is he'd have flopped on that a long time ago. The day he casts it aside for political gain is the day he loses my vote.
I believe it was the Boston Globe that did an amazingly unbiased 8 part series on his Romney's. His life speaks volumes of his character and abilities to do what he says he will do, and his commitment to serve his fellowman. I guarantee that he has given more of his time and talents (not to mention money) without compensation or even expectations of compensations than any other candidate from either party.  

I was once a Mormon basher, believed my preacher when as a youth he told me the Mormons were an evil cult. Something didn't ring true to me. I knew too many really good people that were Mormon. Because I am open minded and have a brain and try to be honest with myself and others, I took the time to learned what Mormons in fact believe. Mormons are not perfect people,  but if you took the time to learn what it is they really believe in for yourself you would promptly shut your ignorant mouth and stop bearing false witness against your brother. Correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked that was still one of the Ten Commandments.

We are an active duty military family, unashamed I will say of all the men running today it is 100 times Romney that we trust to lead this great but wounded nation. How can you not when it is so obvious by his own family what his priorities are and will always be. The Family. The American Family! GODS family.

I'm voting for the promoter of the "Apollo Program" for Solar Energy in the Democratic Primary - anyone else is a vote for The Establishment, which promotes war, lop-sided globalization and enviromental suicide. I'd love to see oil go to $200 a barrel - how many cargo ships would sail then? Think, jobs coming back to America and safer standards for products!
I dunno.. Magic underpants combined with the doggy torture was the toxic mix that turns me off to Romney. Not one over the other.. to me they are both alien.
Kucinich's claims to have seen a UFO is abundantly more normal than an invisible man in the sky of any religion.

Tommy Lee Jones posed this question to all Americans in a recent interview: "To what extent are you engaged in a fraudulent war, you as an American citizen?"

I searched my tiny little mind and can honestly claim I had no influence or involvement what so ever. Can you?
Romney is a class act, I have studied all of them the past 6 months.

Romney is the clear winner with fresh ideas that will benefit the American people. When a candidate says, I will not take a salary and I will lead a large scale outside audit of the federal government to cut out waste. He's got my vote.

Romney 2008
To MarkD
Lived in Sweden for a few years and marveled at the  pride they have of their neutral, passivism views. Without giving much thought to it, sounded peaceful and Christian even admirable.
But then on second thought, is that who I would want for my neighbor? say if I were Jewish?
But then again MarkD, you probably think the holocaust never happened.
Freedom has a cost, in a perfect world, it would not take war. You'll stop being a passivist the minute some big thug has you in a corner and you're wetting yourself out of fear, Tell me you wouldn't pray for someone to save you. Trust me,  It will be someone who is not afraid to stand up for what is right, it won't be someone like you.  Gee, there is something to be proud of Sport!

I could care less about Mitt's religion.  I do know that he said 3 times in one evening the President has the ability to lock up anyone he pleases, at whatever time, for whatever reason, with no legal recourse.  A few days later he said he believes the President can move money around the budget to fund his own priorities and defund things he doesn't want.  That's enough for me to disqualify him for the office.
So a president who lies for reasons of war is acceptable to you because he's showing strength? I'd prefer smarts.

Imagine a bizarro world where our country was occupied. Our leaders dragged off to some foreign kangaroo court and swiftly executed. With the occupiers torturing fellow Americans, would your acts of patriotism be considered terrorism by the occupiers? I know mine would.

Sure would be nice if all these ardent Republicans would focus some anger at the people they elected for the utter failure against 'Terrorism'. Osama bin Laden living free and dying of natural causes is not a sufficient response to the horror of 9/11.

A vote for social conservatives is a vote and victory for the terrorists because the Terrorists hate libreal ideas.  The social conservatives want to turn the United States into a religios theoracy like Iran and Saudi Arabia.  The terrorists don't want to see the United States a liberal democracy they want to see the United States under religious theoratic law just like Iran, Saudi Arabia and some other middle eastern countries thats why a win for social conservatives is a win for the terrorists.  The social conservatives think like the terrorists because they say they want to change the country in the name of God just like the way terrorists say that they have theocratic rule in their countries in the name of God.  Some Social conservatives like to bomb abortion clincis and kill doctors that perform abortions and they say they are doing Gods will just exactly like the terrorist blow up buildings and kill innocent people and say that they are doing it in the name of God.  I am currently reading a book about the Taliban and the book talks about how the Taliban started and the book talks about the Talibans ideas the same way the far right ideas are in the US.  In the book it talks about that the Taliban says they took over Afganistan in the name of God and it says the Taliban cliams that Afganistan was originally a country founded on Islamic Principles just exactly how the Far Right and socail conservatives say the United States was a country founded on Christian Principles.  The Far Right is a bigger threat to the United States than the terrorists are.  I am afraid that some day if the Far Rigth goes to far they will take over this country and insitute theocratic law in the United States.  I also read a fictional book by Margaret Atwood called the Handmaids Tale and it is a book about the far right overthrowing the government in the United States the book talks about the social issues the United States is was facing before the takeover of this radical right government and the social issues the book talked about are some of the same issues we face today.  I would suggest that people who want to have an idea on how the far right may run the United States if they get their way I would suggest you read the Handmaids Tale.  The Handmaids Tale is also a popular book read among students taking college english.  
Well, Robertson is a typical neo-con, not a real conservative.  His endorsement only means neo-cons would prefer Rudy as their puppet over one like Romney, who has other special interests.  Apparently Robertson consider Guiliani the easiest to manipulate.  
But may be also they are in the hurry with endorsements because they are getting scary now of the only real conservative candidate -- Ron Paul.
MITT ROMNEY is the MAN!!!! He is sooo qualified to lead our country. He is a natural problem- solver. He has a Harvard MBA AND degree from Harvard Law, he was a success in the business world of Baine Co., he turned around the 2002 winter olympic deficit to a surplus, for NO pay i might add, and gave the olympics one million dollars, he helped the state of MA out, turning their deficit to a surplus, and he didnt take pay there either. Dude, he has helped in a company, the olynpics, the state of MA, and he can help our country!!! VOTE MITT ROMNEY!!!!
Magic underwear?  Mormons don't think their underclothing is magic.....it is a daily reminder to them of the sacredness and sanctity of marriage.  A moral protection, if you will.  I know....I've been married to the same awesome man for 23 years, and my "magic underwear" keeps me thinking about the promises we made when we were sealed together in marriage.  Boy are there a lot of silly rumors out there!
Magic Underwear?!!!  Boy are there a lot of silly ideas out there about Mormons!  The "garment" that you are referring to is a sacred reminder of the promises that a married couple makes to one another when they tie the knot.  One more thing....I wonder how a "cult" can be one of the fastest growing Christian religions in the world?  Hmmmmm...........
Last night on PBS's Charlie Rose, the CEO of General Electric said the high price of oil will continue and even worsen. He said industrialization of alternative fuels is beginning and has actually driven the price of some wind generated power to 6 cents per KW. Jim Cramer, the notable Wall Street commentator, believes in 10 years we will look back at $100 per barrel oil as "The good old days". He suggests $10 to $15 per gallon gasoline in 5 to 10 years. So why did I bring these things up? Well, it sounds to me like we are heading into a major paradigm shift in American life. We are going to call on whomever our president is for the kind of understanding and leadership like we have not had since maybe WWII. Everything in our culture is about to change. Our next president will have to be a world class brain capable of leading us into uncharted waters. Think about it.  


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