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Biden, Richardson talk foreign policy

Posted: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:00 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli [in Manchester, N.H.] and NBC’s Lauren Appelbaum [in Washington, D.C.]
Biden and Richardson leaned on their experience during separate foreign policy speeches this morning, with each calling for a new approach to Pakistan. Biden later accused Richardson of changing positions on international issues in order to curry favor with the Democratic electorate.
 
Speaking at the Impact ’08 summit at St. Anselm’s College this morning, Biden in particular sought to highlight what he said were his prescient comments on Pakistan before the current crisis developed. "People don't get it. All these dots are connected folks," Biden said in what was billed as a major speech. "There is no way to discretely deal with any nation in that region without understanding the repercussions, good and bad, for every other nation in the region. Neither the Democratic nor Republican candidates seem to understand that."

Biden accused Pervez Musharraf of imposing a coup against his own government, and warned that without swift resolution, the world may see a repeat of the 1979 Iranian Revolution. "That moderate majority must have a voice in the system and an outlet with elections,” Biden said. “If not, moderates may find that they have no choice but to take common cause with extremists, just as the Shah's opponents did in Iran three decades ago."  
 
Biden also criticized the Bush administration for waiting days to contact the principals in the region. By comparison, he noted that he spoke with Benazir Bhutto the day the state of the emergency was declared, and was in contact with Musharraf days later. "President Bush's first reaction was to call on President Musharraf to reverse course. Given the stakes, I thought it might be more important to actually call him -- than rather call on him."
 
Biden called for dealing “proactively” with the current situation, but also for a long-term plan to strengthen Pakistan’s moderate majority, and to create conditions in the region that ensure a real democracy thrives in the region.
 
Richardson, who spoke first this morning, also drew comparisons between Pakistan today and Iran in 1979, saying that the United States cannot support what is essentially a military dictatorship. "We made the mistake years ago of backing a dictatorship in Iran and we are paying for it today," Richardson said. "At this very juncture, unless we shift our policy in Pakistan, in two of the more crucial parts of the world, unless we advocate democracy and human rights and a dramatic change in Pakistan, we are in danger of making the same mistake."
 
The convergence of Biden and Richardson today brought together decades of foreign policy experience -- Biden as chair of the foreign relations committee, and Richardson as a former U.N. Ambassador and negotiator. Talking to reporters after his speech, Biden said he was confident that if foreign policy remains a top concern, he would do well. Asked if he and Richardson might split up those votes, he acknowledged it was possible, but took aim at the New Mexico governor’s campaign positions. 
 
“Bill has been sort of all over the board on his foreign policy,” he said. “First he endorsed the Biden plan for getting out of Iraq, then he said he’d get them all out in three months. Then he said it will take six months. Then no, it’ll take a year. And now it’s back to whatever it is.”
 
“I think Bill is banking on that portion of the Democratic Party that just wants to hear, ‘I’ll get out tomorrow,’” he continued. “I just think he has decided on a different tactic, and I’m not so sure that tactic is working.” 
 
He also noted that despite Richardson spending millions on advertising, he has started to pull ahead of him in the early states. “I think people are going to start making discriminating judgments about whether we know what we’re talking about,” he said. "I'm operating on the premise that the American people are looking for someone tell the truth ... just lay out the facts, state what the facts are. Not attempt to sugarcoat where we are. ... You're not going to get the troops out in three weeks or three months or six months."
 
Richardson spoke about environmental issues in Portsmouth this afternoon, and was not available after for a response. A campaign spokesperson also declined to comment.

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Although I agree with Biden that Richardson seems to be pandering on the Iraq issue, it is a pleasure to see both men speak substantively on foreign policy - a field in which both have incredible qualifications.  
I think Sen. Biden's speech and prescient positions on Pakistan and his ability to, as he says, "connect the dots" and understand that foreign policy decisions cannot be made in isolation further bolster his foreign policy thinking and credentials. I truly hope that Iowa caucus-goers look past the MSM's blatant attempts to turn the Democratic primary into a two-candidate race (if that, as the MSM, and MSNBC in particular, seems to have bought into the "Hillary is inevitable so let's get on with the general election"  mantra) and see that Biden has the most experience, the best judgment and the most foresight on foreign policy issues. He is ready to be president on January 20, 2009 and start fixing the web of foreign policy problems that this administration have gotten this country tangled in.  

Joe-mentum! Go Biden 2008!!
It's tough, but thankfully Biden is willing to call out the danger in Richardson's rhettoric. After reading his major regional peice today, it is clear that he leads all candidates with foreign policy experience. He is acting as our world leader with forthright honesty and candor. It's not rhetoric or soundbites from him. This is what we want from our president...

have any of the front runners really made headway on this issue?
More importantly, the front-runners are not sought after for the direction to take on Pakistan. Their opinions are based largely on what more qualified people have to say.
Classic. Biden and Richardson speaking practically at the same time about foreign policy. Could Biden's campaign have staged a better moment if it wrote the script itself? I doubt it. Biden's is far and away the class of the entire presidential field (on both sides) in terms of straightforwardness, honesty, and experience. His campaign must have been salivating when it discovered that Buffoon Bill (no, not THAT Bill) would be speaking there as well. What a contrast. Biden '08 is the ONLY logical choice for America.
It is something like utterly vapid for Richardson to say that US cannot support a military dictatorship or human rights violator in Pakistan.

If that's genuinely the case, ask Richardson how much money he carried to N. Korea and how N. Korea is not a military dictatorship or a horrible human rights violator.

Richardson is banking on the electorate being as stupid as he is dishonest.
Lee Holmes: '...[you forget that had Bush used the Army against his own citizens there would be no Bush left]. This is the doing of their own people who are trying to do with this dictator what the Germans should have done to Hitler in 1935. [as it now stands,pro-Democracy dissidents are being hunted down and shot according to todays Associated Press report].Theres your ''democracy in action''Sierra...'

Lee Holmes...
So we both agree, Bush is attacking his OWN CITIZENS !!
You forgot to mention the illegal wire tapping and the torture, Lee !!
Yes, let's get rid ot the illegitmate, dictatorial George Bush, Lee !!

Viva La Revolucion !!
Too bad Biden isn't more of a "name" in this race.
He seems to be the most well equipped candidate to run this country in it's current state.

Oh yeah...FIRST!!!
Actually you should stop all aid to Pakistan. Just like Bush, he is a gangster.
It's no fair, Joe Biden had Psycho Mary working for him.
She fortold the future.
You just give Psycho Mary some Thnderbird and she starts speaking in toungues !!

Wha'ts the word ?
Thunderbird !
Biden doesn't believe we can get our troop out in a year?  Biden has no credibility on Iraq.  He voted for the war and has repeatedly voted for spending bills appropriating billions more for Iraq while refusing to support any deadlines on our occupation.  Now Biden wants to spend even billions more on Iraq than Bush is asking for.  http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071008/truthdig

When it comes to accomplishing anything whatsoever to end our intervention in Iraq, Biden has been a miserable failure.  He represents the D.C. military and political establishment the got the U.S. into the war and lacks the courage to admit our invasion was a gross failure of judgement and arrogance in the extreme.  Biden is the Joe Lieberman of 2008 - the Democrat least likely to get the U.S. out of Iraq.  

We here in New Mexico know what a mess he has made of our state. We sure do not want Bill Richardson in the White House that is for sure!!! Do us all a favor and do not waste your vote on Bill Richardson!!!
Hope Biden and Richardson are part of the Clinton administration. They will be awesome.
I like both of them.They will be fabulous in positions that Hillary will be offering them.
GO JOE GO JOE GO JOE!
Why don't those two just have a debate and at the end they can beat each other senseless........
Phil -

You are absolutely correct.  Joe is the best candidate.  I hope a great number of Iowans have come to that same conclusion.

Biden '08
biden is correct is his "connect the dots" statement.  we CANNOT deal with one nation in the middle east without knowing the repercussions from or to another nation in that region.  brilliant!
Jerry

I, for one, am rather pleased that there are candidates who are still talking about substantive issues.  And, this is just my opinion again, but I find it more enlightening than reading about whether someone gave a waitress a tip or not.
Joe Biden = Darth Vader
What Biden can claim in foreign policy credentials is offset with what he lacks in domestic policy credentials.  
He takes the Imperial view of both.
Biden championed the "sneak-and-peek" provisions of the PATRIOT Act, 2 years before 2001.  It was the RAVE Act then, and it failed.  About the most unconstitutional voice in the Senate.    
James,


"What Biden can claim in foreign policy credentials is offset with what he lacks in domestic policy credentials."

You should try to stay informed.

from Sourcewatch:

Biden has been instrumental in crafting significant federal crime laws over the last decade, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, also known as the Biden Crime Law. He also authored the landmark Violence Against Women Act of 2000, which contains a broad array of groundbreaking measures to combat domestic violence and provides billions of dollars in federal funds to address gender-based crimes; part of this legislation later was struck down as unconstitutional. He also introduced the controversial RAVE Act in April 2003.

As chairman of the International Narcotics Control Caucus, Biden wrote the laws that created the nation's "Drug Czar," who oversees and coordinates national drug control policy. In this role, Biden continues to work to stop the spread of "date rape" drugs, such as Rohypnol, and drugs such as Ecstasy and Ketamine. In 2004 he worked to pass a bill outlawing steroids like androstenedione, the drug used by many baseball players.

Staunchly supportive of education, Biden's legislation has promoted college aid and loan programs and has allowed families to deduct on their annual income-tax returns up to $10,000 per year in higher-education expenses. His enacted Kids 2000 legislation which established a public/private partnership to help provide computer centers, teachers, Internet access, and technical training to young people across the nation, particularly to low-income and at-risk youth.
As a man who voted for Bush, there are none of the republican candidates that I would vote for. Joe Biden has the best handle on foreign policy of any candidate; republican, democrat or whatever. He is also a realist and speaks his mind honestly. It would be nice to have someone in the white house who doesn't parse their words. Open, honest and forthright, I think Biden has these qualities and I hope the voters in Iowa listen to him and compare him to the other Democratic candidates. If they do, I believe he will end up in the white house


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