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Obama on his state senate records

Posted: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:30 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
JOHNSTON, IA -- Obama said that he didn't know where his papers from his eight years in the Illinois State House were at a press conference in Johnston, Iowa, this morning after he taped an appearance on Iowa Press.

When asked about why he hadn't released his papers, Obama said that he had only one staff person assigned to him during his years in the senate and simply did not have the resources to keep archival records.

“I don’t have archivists in the state senate," he said. "I don’t have the Barack Obama state senate library available to me. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years."

Obama had been asked the question by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times, who pressed the senator on the question, saying that she wasn’t requesting specific papers. Instead, she just wanted to know where the papers were.

“You know I’m not certain, Lynn," Obama said. "I didn’t have the resources to ensure that all this sutff was archived in some way; it could have been thrown out. I haven’t been in the state senate now for some time. I’m not sure, Lynn. I don’t know."

Obama also said why he had said that Clinton had switched sides on a bankruptcy bill that offered stronger protections for consumers at an roundtable on pension security in Ottumwa yesterday.

“We were on the same side in 2005," Obama said. "I brought this up, in part, because apparently she suggested that I had not voted for one amendment that had gone through committee that suggested that I hadn’t been on the right side of the issue consistently. In fact she had been the person who was originally in favor of a credit card company bankruptcy bill and then switched."

Obama also disputed the notion that the public had tired of him after his splashy debut at the Democratic Convention in 2004. “You know, I still I think got it, brother," Obama said. "I do think that having come onto the scene nationally in that convention, people think that maybe every time I speak I’m going to make them cry."

Obama has been reaching out to the media lately, doing appearances on Saturday Night Live and Ellen. The normally media-shy campaign gave numerous interviews yesterday to print and television outlets and even did an interview with the the Christian Broadcasting Network's 700 Club that aired today. When asked why he was putting on “a charm offensive,” Obama laughed off the question and said that people were paying more attention now and the campaign was trying to reach them in as many venues as possible.

Obama also took a question on whether he was not taking enough opportunities to differentiate himself form Clinton. “I’m not interested in taking pot shots just for the sake of taking pot shots," Obama said. "If I’ve had a serious difference with Senator Clinton I’ve made that difference absolutely clear, and I will continue to do so."

He added he was still committed to running a campaign that attempted to rise above the back and forth of what he has deemed “textbook” politics from Washington. But the most notable exchange in the press conference came when Obama was about to walk off stage after taking just four questions. Sweet and David Wright from ABC News protested loudly that the Senator was not making himself more available to the media.

“If transparency is a big part of the campaign, why are the availabilities so few and far between and so short?” Wright asked Obama.

Obama ignored his question, but came back to both Sweet and Wright afterward, taking questions on his Illinois state senate records and why he didn’t take more opportunities to attack Clinton. Since Sept. 10, this was the second press conference the campaign has organized that was open to all press. Obama also took questions from New Hampshire reporters after he filed for the presidency there, a tradition organized by the New Hampshire Secretary of State’s office. He has also had two other media availabilities -- one in Iowa and one in South Carolina.

In a town hall in Dover, N.H., several weeks ago, Obama said he that he would hold regular press conferences and “not just call on my four favorite reporters.”

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Just a whole bunch of nothing Obama! Spirit and air smoke and dust and no records!
Oh so He can say that hillery need to show her records, but his from the time he actually worked are no where to be found... Interesting...

Hey who is double talking now -

I hope the democrats don't fall for this new style from Barack - it's easy to be a day after quarterback - (The Iraq Vote, The Iran Vote - where he did not even show up)...
I hope he does release ALL his records.  

within ONE MINUTE of Hillary Clinton releasing hers.

If not,  he can selectively release his papers that are to his ADVANTAGE while she keeps hers squirrelled away.

Why do i believe that?  How many people on this BLOG honestly POST all their NEGATIVE INFORMATION  WHEN THEY send out their RESUME?????

IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU CANNOT CAST A STONE AT OBAMA ON THIS POINT.
Obama was a new senator with 1 staff working for him. His voting record is online for all to see. Big difference from having an ex-prez with an entire library and boxes upon boxes of records archived. Nice redherring argument, though Lynn. H Clinton's records are at the B CLinton library, but she won't release hers until after 1/3/08 Iowa caucus maybe. B Obama's voting record is available everywhere. B Obama has never requested her records from her senate time. She, however, is claiming that she garnered 'experience' from her time as first lady with almost absolutely nothing to show for it(except for the healthcare debacle). Nice try Ms Sweet(grade E for effort).
The press are full of crap. All they wanted was a juicy headline to make Obama looks bad. i guess Obama has learned his lesson from the summer campaign.

I remember Press taking all his answer out of contest. Headline like "Obama plan to bomb Pakistan" make Press look pitiful. Back then, they were asking meaningless questions like "Are you black Enough".

I am glad Obama put them in their right position. They need to send all of them (Presss corp) back to school to study Ethics and Professionalism.

Bunch of nuckle head that think every thing is all about them.
"Oh so He can say that hillery need to show her records, but his from the time he actually worked are no where to be found... Interesting... "

It's only interesting if you don't understand things. For example, if you don't understand that a state senator having one staffer--who isn't an archivist--doesn't (and physically can't) keep records the same way that the President--with hundreds of staffers specifically devoted to archiving presidential records--is required by law to, then you might imply there's something "interesting" here.

You might also imply something "interesting" here if, like Republicans on the run from the electorate proclaiming how similar Republicans and Democrats are, you wish to imply an artificial equivalence between two candidates.

Can the Clintonites come up with nothing but lies, smear, and spin in support of their candidate? No, of course not.
To Marbw
Don't you think you are using double standard here? Support your cndidate but be fair. I am waiting all the post now.
Hope you are having a nice day.
Senate record to senate record, Obama beats Hillary hands down.  The only thing she's beat him at is porkbarrel spending $10 for every  $1 Obama earmarked.  But hey, she's supposedly the champion of fiscal responsibility, since Bill was so great at it during his years, even if that excess couldn't be used to finance health care reform, Bill claims the money wasn't available because of him!

If Hillary wants to base her "superior" record on White House documents that exist, but are sealed away, then she needs to unseal those documents for all to read.  Obama is not claiming that he has some overarching grand experience that bests Clinton.  He has the better judgment.  Experience to judgment, judgment wins every time.

Having 30 years of experience dividing party lines and casting the wrong votes... that's not what we need in the Presidency.  4 years from now, is Hillary going to use her ol' Iraq line "If I knew then what I knew now" after she blindly attacks Iran because the public opinion poll supports it?  

Cheney had the best resume in the country.  See where that got us?  Judgment first.  Experience second.  You can have all the experience in the world, but a wrong decision is a wrong decision.  If you have good judgment, that wrong decision doesn't happen in the first place.
i love the blind obama supporters. He lies, suppresses his records and you happily follow because you have "hope". Well Hillary gives me more than hope. Her opinions and stances have been publicly recorded for the the entirety of my daughter's life. And considering Obama's spotty attendance record as he has served his GRAND three years in the senate when compared to Hillary's record...I think we know who needs to release papers more.

really. defend your boy when he is defendable. but admit that he is not holier than my girl. In fact, he promotes the lies and dirty politics that he claims to be above. Don't worry. Iowa can see through him


And your point about the issue bee?
"Bunch of nuckle head that think every thing is all about them. "

lol

AMEN!
You guys say it is not a story and irrelevant. If it was Bush being asked the same thing, you guys would call him everything under the sun if he gave the same answer. Obama wants to be the leader of the free world any and every question is on the table. Hell if I wanted to know his shoe size, its relevant.
Obama , Queen Hypocrite.

damn, you would have thought he would anticipate this question.. or did he? and thuse the missing records?
You work in a government position and have no papers to show for it, that is not good. I think this paper issue has run its course, lets move on, Obama was in a good position and has lost numbers because he has let the media frame his agenda as the Clinton attacker, you have been suckered by the press, they are framing your campaign, don't let them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was there a story here?  
he has served his GRAND three years in the senate when compared to Hillary's record...

yes, Lili, you DID say it!  

I think you got your candidates mixed up. Hillary's hubby is hiding her records.  A state senator doesn't have the resources to archive papers.
Obama:  "The dog ate my state senate records."

Hey, Saint Barack:  what goes around comes around.
You guys don't get it... he is trying to mimic Hillary. Is way smart than that. Let see if Hillary will attack him. "I don't have Barack Obama State Senate Library" get it.
Harmony-

I was implying her 7 YEARS in the senate. not to mention her 20 YEARS of public statements. I was implying because i thought you were smart enough to do the math.

and this isn't 1950. they have the resources to archive EVERYTHING. if they have a computer. they have an archive.
just like he claimed he was understaffed, i believe that was the same thing Hillary was saying too. If memory serve me well they have  100 millions documents to go through. And i believe the staff is 300 some. And also the staff have to work on some other archives too. What goes around come around. And you Think the rep will have  not find those things and use against him?????Remember how they turned John kerry ( war hero) in a doll????
what does he say to so many other state senators whose records are online and who provide them most of the time when the are running for higher offices like governor and stuff. enough said Obama. and if it all comes down to whom I trust, weather Mr. Clinton or Mr. Obama about archives of Hillary, then I trust Mr. Clinton hands down!
Hey Folks check out -

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/

They show you exactly the truth about the releasing of presidential papers - so it's ok for obama to say because he only had one staffer, his papers can be lost - but because it takes the National Archives time to review the papers - it must be becasue the Clintons are hiding the papers...

Lord the Obama people are really crasping here...
Fact is, there's no paper trail of Obama's relevant experience because there's no relevant experience.
Again, he does not say he is going to make an attempt to locate any records that may exist.  He just says he doesn't know where they are and that is supposed to be sufficient.  Yes, there are obvious differences between the records that he would have and the records that Hillary would have, but the bottom line (to me) is that it is completely disingenuous to demand that someone do something which you yourself are not willing to do.  
I cannot belive Obamma is so stupid to not have public records while in the Senate.  What kind of a person will not stand up to what he has done,  shows he he doesn't want he pulic to know.  stupid,  n----
Interesting the comments. You have a choice with Obama.
Hillary is being crammed down your throats and you are enjoying it!
like a lot of Democrats I thought Obama gave an inspiring speech at the convention - but does that make him presidential material? Now that he has decided to go on the attack (nothing like a little infighting to take the eye off the prize) he is even less "presidential"  There is nothing, absolutely nothing that makes this man  qualified to be President.  He is desperate and his money supporters told him the dollars would dry up if he didn't move up in the polls.  Well I think this business of pony up your records to Mrs. Clinton is backfiring on him.  He looks like the kid who isn't getting his way.  Too bad he had potential.
omama the carrot man
this guys selling a vote he didnt have 2003 judgement because he was voted no and the war he he is a one way ticket to a nothing show his kids are'nt good enought for public schools he did nothing for illinois talk a good game
and this isn't 1950. they have the resources to archive EVERYTHING. if they have a computer. they have an archive

    So where are Hillary's records then?

Public Statments mean nothing without action.  So if she is so good then she should have lots more accomplishments.  Barack has done plenty in a short periond of time and on his own.  Hillary would not even be running if not for Bill.  I just don't see her as a standout.
Barack Obama will be the greatest president this country has seen in 50 years, he will restore accountability, honesty, and integrity to american politics and America.
And your point about the issue bee?

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My point is pretty clear, member of press club are nuckle head who shouldn't be taken seriously. Do you watch PTI on ESPN? That is where that phrase come from.

The national press had their chances and they blew it big time by touting the polls all year long. Now that folks are paying attention, they want a piece of the pie.

If i were Obama, i won't even give any of the national media any attention or interview. Obama should continue to give local media some attention and should ignore the national media until they are ready to do their job. The so called MSM that are full of crap and plattitude ask this type of question, Are you black enough? This is an insult of the highest order.


Do they ask Clinton, are you woman enough? Perhaps, they should have gone to holly wood and ask Parris Hilton if she is cute enough?

Tell me why the MSM are not nuckle head?
And your point about the issue bee?

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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My point is pretty clear, member of press club are nuckle head who shouldn't be taken seriously. Do you watch PTI on ESPN? That is where that phrase come from.

The national press had their chances and they blew it big time by touting the polls all year long. Now that folks are paying attention, they want a piece of the pie.

If i were Obama, i won't even give any of the national media any attention or interview. Obama should continue to give local media some attention and should ignore the national media until they are ready to do their job. The so called MSM that are full of crap and plattitude ask this type of question, Are you black enough? This is an insult of the highest order.


Do they ask Clinton, are you woman enough? Perhaps, they should have gone to holly wood and ask Parris Hilton if she is cute enough?

Tell me why the MSM are not nuckle head?
"You guys say it is not a story and irrelevant. If it was Bush being asked the same thing, you guys would call him everything under the sun if he gave the same answer. Obama wants to be the leader of the free world any and every question is on the table. Hell if I wanted to know his shoe size, its relevant.
IntheMiddle, TX (Sent Friday, November 09, 2007 4:20 PM)"

So are you saying that it's a bad thing every time Bush declines to release papers, evidence, scientific reports, et al or are you saying that it's ok for Clinton and Obama to not release their papers just like Bush?
REALLY ARE YOU OBAMA HATERS THAT STUPID TO TRY AND COMPARE THIS , OH THAT MUCH DESPERATION IS REALLY TELLING . I THINK SOMEBODY IS GOING DOWN AND THEY KNOW IT .
DUMMIES IF YOU WANT ANYTHING FOR OBAMAS STATE SENATE YEARS YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ITS PUBLIC INFO. HOW DUMB.
Today I convinced two Republicans to register as Democrats so they can attend the Colorado Democratic caucus on February 5 and support Obama.  It wasn't difficult.  This is what's happening in real life and you'll see similar results in the Iowa caucus, NH primary, etc.
How do you know what B Obama did while in the senate. Easy, do a google search. It is available online. How do you know what H Clinton did in the senate , easy google it. How do you know what her so-called 'experience' was as first lady during her husbands 8 years in office(she wants us to take her word for it because they do not plan on releasing the bulk of those documents until after 1/3/08 Iowa caucus(if ever).
These are some of the things he achieved:

"As a state legislator, Obama worked with both Democrats and Republicans in drafting successful legislation on ethics and health care reform. He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for child care. Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, Obama won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited him with having been "immensely helpful in working with police organizations" on death penalty reform."
it is not surprising locating the records would be difficult.  Our statehouse is not exactly the most organized.
nor up to date.
Concidering that Obama has made public everything including his earmarks, it should not be that big a deal.  Lynn sweet is one to find fault about Obama as she tend to write up Hillary.  Her columns are usually pro Hillary and not so nice to Obama.  She knows good and well that the records at the statehouse could be anywhere.
Here's a link to audio of this Obama press conference (at bottom of page):

http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=25F66F66-D89F-1FE7-D0FF30E8DE9EE7AD
Harmony-
Regardless of her time as first lady she still has more than twice as much experience in the senate as Obama.

If anything the time that she spent in Arkansas and raising her highly successful was stifling her own career.

I don't really know what you look for as a stand out? is it a guy that had one good speech and since campaigning has only made it to 20% of the senate votes -- the least of any presidential candidate currently in the senate?

wow. that does stand out.

oh and fyi.
Here is her bottleneck:
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter." "2203(f)(1) Upon the conclusion of a President's term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President. . . ." [Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. s 2201 et seq.]

see. its a little different when you are the co-leader of the free world.
Obama's records are not necessary just as Hillary's records aren't. Every outcome of their positions as senaters is clearly attributed to them whether positive or negative. At least their public records as senators are known. The problem is that Hillary claims some good experience out of Bill's administration as. At the same time Bill claims all failures, such as those on health care, to be because of him and not Hillary. Now these Clinton records would be very useful for voters to make their own judgments in separating Bill and Hillary's experiences, and thereby giving Hillary any credit for trying.

Obama's records are not necessary just as Hillary's records aren't. Every outcome of their positions as senaters is clearly attributed to them whether positive or negative. At least their public records as senators are known. The problem is that Hillary claims some good experience out of Bill's administration. At the same time Bill claims all failures, such as those on health care, to be because of him and not Hillary. Now these Clinton records would be very useful for voters to make their own judgments in separating Bill and Hillary's experiences, and thereby giving Hillary any credit for trying.
I think people are forgetting a huge fact here: all of Obama's votes, bills he wrote, and other actions in the state senate ARE part of the public record, and are fully available.  That is a record he's running on.  This request is for notes he jotted down during his time as a state senator; being a state senator is no glamorous job with a large staff nor any mechanism to archive anything.

Clinton is running in large part on her record as first lady for which there are currently no significant public records.  She wasn't in an elected position, so there are no votes we can look at.

There is a huge difference between the two.
Again, he does not say he is going to make an attempt to locate any records that may exist.  He just says he doesn't know where they are and that is supposed to be sufficient.  Yes, there are obvious differences between the records that he would have and the records that Hillary would have, but the bottom line (to me) is that it is completely disingenuous to demand that someone do something which you yourself are not willing to do
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Do i expect anything better from Obama haters? No
Why are you fabricating a story that has no leg? If you want all his state senate records, go to springfield and get it. He is not hidding anything and to call him disingeneous is a little bit bogus.

Any other question from you and Lynn(Greatest Obama hater in Chicago)?
Bee honey Obama is TOASTED.
Just a whole bunch of nothing Obama! Spirit and air smoke and dust and no records!
H P Boston

Kind of like you - except you have no brains.
Obama is running for President on his state experience and he hasnt kept any records? I kept records even when I was my college rep.

This is an internet era. Many first term senator maintain records. I guess Obama is just lazy (seeing how he missed 88% of senate votes) and he never thought one speech will catapult him for Presidential race.

Go Edwards!
Bee...would I expect anything less from a Clinton hater?  I do not hate Obama.  I have said REPEATEDLY (if you bothered to actually READ anything) that I like Obama, I just don't think it is the right time for him.  

You do realize that I am allowed to have whatever opinion that I want to have, whether or not you agree with me.  I see it as being disingenuous; that doesn't mean that you have to as well.  Good lord.
If I don't support your candidate I must hate them, looks like some people want to hang their way of picking a candidate onto me and others.
I try to be less emotional about it but we all are human, but I know that I don't hate any of the dems, I just want a good one that will beat the other party. That is the most important thing, If you sit this one out because your pick is not the one, then you are giving the white pelican party the nod, it is as simple as that. After the choice of candidate comes what the party stands for! Try not to wear your heart on your sleeve when dealing with politics, you will be burned everytime.
Want to know what happened to Barack Obamas' thrown away records? You'll have to ask Oprah Winfrey since she is supporting him during the presidencial election.


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