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Oh-eight (D): Plant-gate

Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:17 AM by Mark Murray
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BIDEN: The Delaware senator pens a Baltimore Sun op-ed, in which he describes how he’ll tackle the problems in Pakistan. “First, we must take an active role in the current crisis and make it clear to Pakistan that actions have consequences… was clear to me that Mr. Musharraf understands the consequences if he does not return Pakistan to the path of democracy. For starters, U.S. military aid will be in great jeopardy. Second, we must move from a Musharraf policy to a Pakistan policy that gives the moderate majority a chance to succeed… Third …[w]e must help create conditions in the region that maximize the chances of success and minimize the prospects for failure. When we shifted resources away from Afghanistan to Iraq, Mr. Musharraf concluded that the Taliban would rebound, so he cut a deal with them. Redoubling our efforts in Afghanistan would embolden Pakistan's government to take a harder line on the Taliban and al-Qaida.”

CLINTON: So how long will this planted question story live? Just when it appeared talk about the Philly debate was finally going away, the campaign has a new negative to spin out of. The New York Times on Plant-gate: “At two campaign events in Iowa this year, aides to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton encouraged audience members to ask her specific questions, a tactic that drew criticism from an opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination and led her yesterday to promise that it would not happen again. Mrs. Clinton, speaking to reporters in Iowa, said she was unaware that her aides had ever planted questions.”

More: Political analysts said that while planting questions is not the worst sin of a campaign operation, the practice could reinforce negative opinions about Mrs. Clinton. ‘The problem for Hillary Clinton is the whole spin that’s going to happen — that she and her campaign are manipulative and scheming and that she is essentially trying to bend the rules to maintain her lead in the polls,’ said Steffen W. Schmidt, a political science professor at Iowa State University.”

The Wall Street Journal has a rare four-byline story in today's paper chronicling the rise and fall of disgraced Clinton fundraiser Norman Hsu. But there's very little new about his relationship with the Clinton campaign.

Just thinking out loud about the campaign’s “Turn up the heat” slogan it unveiled over the weekend: Isn’t the slogan -- which is aimed at Republicans -- just practicing more the politics of derision? Get ready for the 1990s all over again, and she's embracing it.

The Boston Globe’s Venocchi skewers Clinton’s “kitchen strategy.” “TAKE OFF that apron, Hillary. Democrats want a winning presidential candidate, not a gourmet cook.” Venocchi calls the women’s vote “famously fickle” and Clinton “already has a gender gap problem. More than half the married men in a new USA Today/Gallup Poll said they definitely wouldn't vote for her.” She also cites Clinton’s lead shrinking in New Hampshire in the latest Marist poll from 21 points over Obama to 11 now.
 
The New York Daily News calls Clinton “suddenly vulnerable.” Here’s Mark Penn’s take: "The opponents went negative, and that created a new dynamic and a different set of headlines.” “The new dynamic emerged at the debate in Philadelphia two weeks ago, but didn't just spring from sharp criticism by her opponents,” the News writes. “Clinton stumbled by offering fuzzy answers to some questions….” 
 
The Columbia State front-pages, “Clinton leads but it’s not over.”

DODD: This isn’t a headline the Dodd camp wants in the Des Moines Register: “In Connecticut, many tire of Dodd's presidential bid.”

EDWARDS: These are the type of stories that the Edwards campaign has to be nervous about. Newsweek's Richard Wolffe went to Iowa for the J-J festivities and found evidence that Edwards is in trouble. "Is John Edwards in trouble in Iowa? Peg Dunbar thinks so. She signed up as a county chair for Edwards in the northeastern town of Waverly earlier this year, after backing the former senator's campaign in 2004. Now she has changed her mind and switched to Hillary Clinton. ‘John Edwards has been in Iowa for four and a half years and he's in third place,’ she says. ‘He should be in first place. Granted, it's very, very close. But I don't see him going anywhere and I don't go with a loser.’”

This last graph has CW written all over it: "Polling in Iowa is imprecise, but most show Edwards losing ground of late. No poll has put him in front since August. In the last month he's been either tied with Obama for second place, or several points behind him in third. Campaigns can always replace individual supporters—but reversing a trend is much harder."

The Boston Globe front-pages Edwards vs. Obama for the anti-Clinton vote. “The three are more or less tied in Iowa polls, but Clinton is so far ahead nationally that it is hard to see both of them finishing Iowa with momentum to challenge her for the Democratic nomination.”

And stories like this one aren't helpful to Edwards, either. What does Joe Trippi want more: Edwards to become the nominee or Clinton to be stopped? This Politico piece implies he may be more interested in the latter. For what it’s worth, we've been on the receiving end of "you know, Trippi tried to get a job with the Obama campaign" rumors for weeks now.

Edwards is using this Veteran's Day commemoration (the actual holiday was yesterday) to unveil his plan to help veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder. He's unveiling it in New Hampshire.

Yesterday, per NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller, Edwards yesterday introduced his campaign’s policy book, which breaks down Edwards’ four priorities -- “standing up for working and middle-class families,” “ending the war, restoring America’s moral leadership,” “building a better future for the next generation,” and “opportunity for all.”

“I promised that my campaign would not be based on rhetoric, so this book is a fulfillment of this promise,” he said, adding that more than 100,000 copies will be distributed to Iowa caucus-goers

This profile of daughter Cate is a good reminder that with just 50-plus days to go until Iowa, we've yet to see Chelsea on the campaign trail.

OBAMA: In its write-up of Obama’s Meet the Press appearance, the AP focuses on the candidate’s answers regarding Social Security. “Democrat Barack Obama said Sunday that if elected he will push to increase the amount of income that is taxed to provide monthly Social Security benefits.”

To watch the full 60-minute interview or read a transcript of it, click here or here

“Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) dodged questions Sunday about releasing papers from his eight years as an Illinois state senator, and his campaign has not answered records requests from the state’s two largest newspapers,” the Politico reports. “On NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ on Sunday, moderator Tim Russert asked Obama about the papers from his state legislative days, from 1997 to 2004. Obama first said, ‘We did not keep those records.’ He then elaborated: ‘Well, let’s be clear. In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois.”

More Obama: “‘The stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn’t have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues.’”

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski interviewed Michelle Obama on Sunday. Among the more interesting bites: Michelle Obama's response to the race question -- specifically on why she thinks her husband is trailing Clinton among black voters. Obama: "First of all, I think that's not gonna hold. I'm completely confident Black America will wake up and get it. But what we're dealing with in the Black community is the natural fear of possibility. When I look at my life, the stuff we see in these polls has played out my whole life, always been told by somebody that I'm not ready, I can't do something, my scores aren’t high enough. There's always that doubt in the back of minds of people of color."

RICHARDSON: The surest sign that Richardson is in this presidential race for the long haul? Democratic Rep. Tom Udall has now decided to run for the open Senate seat in New Mexico.

"I don't believe in UFOs," Richardson said on Fox News Sunday. "You know, admittedly, sometimes I pump it up for tourism reasons."

The Concord Monitor profiles Barbara Richardson, who went to college in New Hampshire. “Richardson readily admits that she enjoys her privacy, but her scarcity on the campaign trail during the early months of her husband's campaign had little to do with shyness. The woman is just busy.”

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We can get Hillary a Plant...
We'll call him Robert.....

Wonder if we could turn the page.....
We can call him Jimmy......
"This profile of daughter Cate is a good reminder that with just 50-plus days to go until Iowa, we've yet to see Chelsea on the campaign trail."

exactly why is it important for chelsea clinton to show up at her mother's campaign?  so we can all start another round of 'here comes the next member of the Clinton dynasty'?

Can we please lay off these silly stories? - Chelsea (or Michelle Obama) are totally irrelevant - unless they volunteer themselves into the race.  

I remember the nonsense n 2004 when Judy Dean (Howard Dean's professional doctor wife) was pilloried for wanting to 'remain a doctor'.

Enough already!
She continues to hit Landmines......
SK, Marietta, GA

I don't see anything to significant in the fact that Chelsea Clinton is not campaigning for her mother either.  The Clinton's always kept their daughter away from the spotlight when President Clinton was in office, so I see nothing unusual about Chelsea not campaigning now.  Campaigning or not should be Chelsea's choice and I don't think anyone should read something negative into the fact that she chooses not to campaign.
Biden hitting nails on the head again, this boy is moving forward, watch him in the next debate!
So, now it's 'PLANT-GATE', please lets stop the gate connections, it has gotten really old. Gate comes from Watergate, which was a crime, planting questioners in the audience is not. It is bad form and will hurt THE HILL and her camapign. The others must take this moment to out distance her with real issues and ignore her shortcomings, the media will take care of that. Let the media do what it does best and don't waste energy being the attack dog.
GGOGOGOGO DEMS!
http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/10/another-question-planted-by-team-hillary/

Update #1: Hillary Clinton’s Iowa campaign confirmed to Fox that one of its staff discussed questions with Geoffrey Mitchell before the senator’s April 2 event near Fort Madison, but denied attempting to plant a pro-Clinton question.
Mo Elliethee, spokesman for Clinton, told Fox that Clinton staffer Chris Hayler talked with Mitchell before the event because the two knew each other from previous Democratic activities...

Update #2: Geoffrey Mitchell just called Major to state he had absolutely no previous relationship with Clinton staffer Chris Hayler.

Its always the coverup...havn't they learned

The all negative stories about senator Clinton in virtually all the print and electronic media cum the attacks from fellow aspirants are  very unfortunate. I think we should allow the woman to run her campaign and let the people decide whom they want at this crucial moment in American history.
A new general election poll released yesterday has Romney and McCain both climbing up in match-ups against Clinton: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/make-it-three-clinton-sliding-and.html
Do you really believe what Clinton said on this one. Come'on her campaign plant people with predetermined question in the town halls. She does not know about this but somehow she ask those plants to ask their question. What's is the probability of choosing a specific plant out of hundreds in the event. And then she match question with an age group like "usually young people ask me question on Global warming" when she recieve a question from a young plant. Are we saying she does not know anything and these all are coincidence??!! Give me a break.
Well don't tell Wonkette and the other campaigns that Edwards is in trouble. Here's a snippet:

Can Obama Rock the Nomination?
By Ana Marie Cox


"And, it's true, the Edwards campaign is alive and well in Iowa. Privately, rival campaigns concede that Edwards would probably win if the caucuses were held, say, tonight. Says one organizer, "His supporters are largely previous caucus-goers; you don't have to convince them very hard to go again."

So why are some in the national media trying their darndest to create doubt about Edwards campaign? Are you guys worried he is going to win and you will look like fools for having dissed him all year?

The polls in Iowa are very close. But my question is why haven't Clinton & Obama pulled away from Edwards? They have spent millions on advertising and gotten all kinds of free national media coverage. Edwards just ran his first Iowa ad the week before last and he very rarely gets national media coverage (unless it's a negative story). So why aren't you asking why Hilliary & Obama aren't doing better?
It seems to me that Edwards is sacrificing himself.  He knows he's probably not going to win, but he wants to take down Hillary.  Every politician who has ever worked with her HATES her for a reason.  Everything he's saying is absolutely true.  This is a DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.  We NEED the nominees to be honest, forthright, and truthful in what they say and want to do.  It's fair game to question each other.  THAT'S THE POINT!  We want to select the best of them.  Hillary so far has only proven herself the best at not taking a stand on issues.  That's the LAST thing we need as President.  

OBAMA '08
I PREDICT THAT Hillary Clinton will be a great President just as long as nothing unexpected, unscripted, unwarrented (terroist attack), unpredictable, or anything that would otherwise be considered the normalcy of LIFE in general happens to her in during her term.  God help us if we elect this 'fake' paper presidential wannabe.


EDWARDS: These are the type of stories that the Edwards campaign has to be nervous about. Newsweek's Richard Wolffe went to Iowa for

By the way I think in fairness you should disclose the fact that Wolffe is also an MSNBC contributor. People need to know that Wolffe's 2nd bite into Edwards with this story comes courtesy of someone he already works for and not a disinterested 3rd party.
A suggestion is not a plant.  

Secondly, the Bushies put on a fake FEMA press conf. and the media yawned.  It never reached FEMAgate status.

This is unfair attention by the media and shows a corporate / Republican bias.

Where is the coverage of Rudy's friend Kerik?  Is it me or that a bigger story than an aide SUGGESTING a question to an audience member?  
'...Mrs. Clinton, speaking to reporters in Iowa, said she was unaware that her aides had ever planted questions.”...'

If Hillary didn't know there were planted questions..
WHY DID SHE CALL ON THE PEOPLE HER AIDES POINTED OUT TO HER ?
Why did she think her aides were asking her to call on specific people ?
SHE'S LYING, AGAIN !!
Why did she accuse a questioner of being a 'plant' ?

'...More: Political analysts said that while planting questions is not the worst sin of a campaign operation, the practice could reinforce negative opinions about Mrs. Clinton. ‘The problem for Hillary Clinton is the whole spin that’s going to happen — that she and her campaign are manipulative and scheming and that she is essentially trying to bend the rules to maintain her lead in the polls,’ said Steffen W. Schmidt, a political science professor...'

Hillary CHEATING ?
Who'd a thunk it ?
Hillary even chose a crơked campaign manager, Mark Penn, a Karl Rove 'wannabe'.
The Clintons have ALWAYS bent the rules or broken the laws to get their way.

Is THAT what you want in the nomineê ?
Is THAT what you want in a President ?
An unethical insider who won't tell where she stands ?
Someone who talks out of both sides of her mouth ?

Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandal and divisiveness
Another evidence that shows why Clinton and her campaign staffs(Including Van) need an ethics class.

I guess the campaign hasn't learn their lesson when it comes to ethics and Integrity. Planting question like George Bush. The last time i checked the campaign was complaining of the comparison between Hillary Clinton and Bush-Chenney lyte policies.

The planting of questionier indicate the perfect correlation between Bush-Cheney campaign strategy and Hillary Clinton. Thus, i can say with full confident that Hillary Clinton is equivalent of George Bush but they defer on Taxes and health Care.
Nice information Patty, It will be interesting to see how wrong the media is when it comes to this election. The front runners are all Known Faces to the media, perhaps media darlings, but we all know that media darlings are a construct of the media conglomerates who wish to control the cultural landscape. I say if you get questioned by someone in the media that you tell them lies and more lies. Secret ballot is secret for a reason! The media at large is just another institute that deserves our scrutiny! Don't trust them and let them swing in the wind of their predictions.
it was reported hillary was using aqua dots to bribe the plants she had in the audience, has anyone else heard this?
Look at the video again. The student who asked the question WINKED AFTER asking the question. Was that a wink acknowledging mission accomplished? A nervous tick? I don't see why it is sooo hard for Sen. Clinton to be honest with people. It seems like she thinks everyone is to dumb to think for themselves. Why are the Dems pushing Hillary with GROWING BAGGAGE to add on top of the existing baggage over any of the other less polarizing candidates is beyond me.

Norman Hu - money
Planted question - manipulation
Iraq/Iran - hawk (need 2 pay back defense industry)
Lobbyist - healthcare, defense and foreign trade(they paid for something)

We all know the old stuff. Same song as the new stuff. Money, power and sticking it to the masses.

Why her.......  :(
For those of you who were told over the weekend that Edwards got booed at the Mellencamp concert (one of those stories was right here on this website) here is a link to a video that someone posted that shows he was cheered at that concert.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/11/11/115943/13

Isn't it funny how lately there seems to be an awful lot of "hit pieces" out on Edwards? That alone should tell us that he is still very much in this race.

I think all of us who support a candidate need to be vigilant the closer it gets to January 3. The media is looking to manufacture stories and unfortunately sometimes they aren't very careful about what they say. It looks like it will be up to all of us to keep them honest.
For all these landmines that Hillary seems to be hitting a lot of in the last weeks, this upcoming debate on the 15th may end up making her or breaking her.
The Boston Globe had the perfect answer to Hillary Clinton:

Clinton should get out of that kitchen, ASAP. There aren't enough women in it to elect her president of the United States.

It's all fine and dandy if H P in Boston and Susan in Miamai don't care what she stands for, other then being a woman.  If women are just voting for her without checking out her career, then they are just as shallow as the two mentioned above.
Hillary Clinton is running a GW Bush-style campaign.  She doesn't answer tough questions, talks with friendly audiences or reporters only, and plants questions on the campaign trail.  She can only give scripted responses.  Is this the change Americans are looking for?
Go Obama...our next POTUS.
 Jerry,I am in total agreement that planting questions is despicable.But if America wants to save itself,Biden or McCain should be seriously considered.While I do not agree with any candidate completely,it seems only natural to put a Vet in Office,since we are at war.I am an ex-Hillary backer,simply because she is too evasive.Mitt is too slick,Rudy flip-flops,Edwards lets his wife run the show,And Obama is a slandering opportunist.America needs you to vote for sustance,not party or style.Stop this damned war Media.S.O.S.!!!
Dear MSNBC, what a phenomenally stupid story about Clinton's campaign planting a question. I couldn't believe you were trying to make an issue of this.

Campaigns have planted questions and made suggestions ALWAYS.  It has been used as a valid way to help make sure that the public hears about a range of issues a candidate thinks are important. . . and other people still get to ask questions.  If they didn't, THAT would be an issue. . . like the GW rallys where only "special" groups of the public are even allowed to attend.  Questions probably don't HAVE to be planted there but that is because the structure of those appearances raise a more fundamental issue.

Suggesting that there is something wrong with this practice of campaigns planting or suggesting questions in an otherwise open forum is just stupid, stupid, stupid.  I am so tired of the media trying to create phony issues. . .or picking up on the phony issues other stupid media try to start without noting how stupid they are.  That is why I started watching MSNBC to start with. . .Keith O.  Now, I find you doing the same stupid thing.  Give me a break and fire whoever it is you just brought over from Foxnoise.  

And, NO, I am haven't decided who to support yet and do have strong reservations about Clinton based on REAL ISSUES, but this kind of stupidity. . .Jeeeeeeees
I have not once heard HP Boston or Susan,Miami say they support Hillary because she is a woman. But I do believe Jerry is against her because she is.
docrock:

You also forget Biden has a problem with ticking off minorities with his little press moments. he also has a problem with Plagiarism, it sunk his first run for president.

McCain would be good, but I don't think he can recover from what happened to him over the summer.
Wow, DickieFlatts, Charlotte, NC (Sent Monday, November 12, 2007 11:19 AM)

You have to defend Clinton by comparing her to Bush's ills.  He's at like 29% approval rating.  Does this mean Hillary might make 30$?
"Mrs. Clinton, speaking to reporters in Iowa, said she was unaware that her aides had ever planted questions."

Uh huh.  And Rudy is shocked, SCHOCKED, that Kerik was a criminal even though he employed the man for years.  Either Clinton knew about what her campaign staff was doing and signed off on it, or she didn't know what her campaign staff was doing on her behalf (which is actually kind of worse).

I think Clinton peaked a wee bit too early in this race.  Sorry to all Clinton supporters.  She would make a decent (but not great) president, but if she can't stem the bleeding she's going to loose Iowa and New Hampshire.  After that it's all over except for the screaming.
Rasheed Adeyele, Providence,RI,

Welcome to the world of politics. Madame Clinton like to have it both ways but was caught lieing live on national TV.

I guess she doesn't know how to speak the truth at all time.
 Biden has a tendency to tick off anyone who believes that they are owed something just for being in the country.Let's lose the anchor babies,and get the junkies off of disability,then maybe we can save social security.I would LOVE to see McCain,Biden to run TOGETHER as Americans first,party second.Jerry has been making a little more sense than most liberals,probably because he has worked for a living.But all liberals are not morons,they simply grasp at ANY straw  that does'nt have a DUBYA in it.Let's all lose our party blindness,and vote FOR America.End This War!!!!
B. Swank: You sound like a damn Clinmton plant in here, trying to weasle her out of this sh*&. I know you work for her campaign, Brian....
Speaking personally, Hillary reminds me of some women who have been my bosses or college professors.
 
You know the type.  The one who made too many sacrifices in her personal life to attain success in her work life.  Brittle, shrill, angry at the world and unafraid to take it out on others.  The type of woman who, even when she has all the power, still manages to perceive herself as a victim.  

I wouldn't want Hillary as my boss and I don't want her running my country.  I am 40 and have never voted in my life.  But I have now registered to vote because I know the Dems will nominate Hillary and consider it my duty to vote against her.  I would vote for Attila the Hun over HRC.


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