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Saturday's J-J dinner

Posted: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:21 AM by Mark Murray
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There may be no more important judge of Obama's J-J appearance than the Des Moines Register's David Yepsen, and he gave the candidate the clear win. Yepsen predicts that the "the passion he showed should help him close the gap on Hillary Clinton by tipping some undecided" Iowa Dems his way.

And the Obama campaign got the exact type of lead it wanted out of the Washington Post, which pits the Dem contest as a two-person race between Clinton and Obama. "In the space of an hour this weekend, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, using some of their most pointed and forceful rhetoric of the campaign, framed the choice for Democrats deciding their party's presidential nomination. Clinton gave a strong speech at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner late Saturday. But Obama, criticized for occasional lackluster performances, delivered one of his most focused and powerful addresses. In the view of many watching, he emerged as the oratorical winner at the biggest Democratic political event in Iowa before the state's January caucuses."

The New York Times: “Neither Mrs. Clinton nor Mr. Obama mentioned the other by name at the dinner. But the subtext of their remarks was apparent to thousands of Iowans who either sat in rapt attention or responded in extravagantly orchestrated displays of cheers, signs and chants. ‘Not answering questions because we’re afraid our answers won’t be popular just won’t do it,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘Triangulating and poll-driven positions because we’re worried about what Mitt or Rudy might say about us just won’t do it.’”

Clinton’s “references to Mr. Obama were some of her most direct attacks on him and reflected the strength that Mr. Obama was showing in polls in this state, though he lags behind her in national polls. ‘We are ready for change,’ Mrs. Clinton said, seizing on a central promise of Mr. Obama’s campaign. ‘Change is just a word if you don’t have the strength and experience to make it happen. We must nominate a nominee who has been tested and elect a president who is ready to lead on Day 1. I know what it’s going to take to win.’”

Yet count Salon's Walter Schapiro among those in the national media who believe Obama finally found his voice on Saturday night -- only to hide that voice on Sunday morning with Tim Russert. "But what a difference eight hours can make. The next morning, Obama appeared for a full-hour interview in another arena of political combat, facing off against Tim Russert on ‘Meet the Press.’ The fiery Obama of Saturday night had been replaced on Sunday morning by a replicant, a tepid candidate mostly concerned with avoiding mistakes rather than winning converts. Early in the interview, Russert ran a clip from Saturday night's speech and challenged Obama to identify precisely who was ‘talking and acting and voting like George Bush Republicans.’ This was Obama's moment of decision -- either up the ante by calling out Hillary, or fold… Obama's lackluster performance with Russert (no hits, though no obvious errors) illustrates a much larger, though still fixable, problem with his campaign. He has displayed an inconsistent, zigzag style that makes it difficult for him to sustain any mood, any argument, any message in his campaign. Every time Obama takes off the gloves, he immediately feels compelled to lace them up again."

And CQ's Craig Crawford was equally impressed with Obama's J-J speech, but wonders if it was too little, too late. "The shortness of time before Iowans vote could be Clinton’s best friend because until recently her rivals have kept fairly quiet about their complaints, allowing her to build a loyal following in the state. The worst thing for Obama about his powerful speech on Saturday is that he might have waited too long to give it."

The Washington Post's Ruth Marcus doesn't quite give Obama the Gore-Kerry J-J  treatment, "But Obama's impressive turnout and impassioned oratory offered the closing highlight of a long night.”

NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann asks: Will going negative -- even it was subtle -- hurt Obama in Iowa? Since 2004, it's been a commandment of caucus politics that Iowans are NICE people who don't like brawling candidates. Clinton advisor Terry McAuliffe invoked the 2004 fallout on Friday when he told reporters that camps that go negative “do it at your peril here in Iowa."

Dann adds that although the speeches on Saturday had their fair share of sound-bitable moments, the real story of the Jefferson Jackson dinner is who brought in the most organizational muscle. Team Obama won the night, hands down, as far as the energy and coordination of their attendees, with the thunder-stick armed Clinton fans a distant second.  The massive organizational effort that went into JJ also underscored the ever-growing divide between moneyed first-tierers and the Bidens and Dodds of the campaign. Their cheering sections were peppy but almost unnoticeable in the sea of red-shirted Obama fans and yellow-clad Clinton supporters. 

On Friday night, in fact, when a sign-decorating competition between all the campaigns turned into an impromptu Obama rally, Dann saw a staffer from a second-tier campaign watching helplessly as the hollering red-shirted throng grew louder. She had tears in her eyes.

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Chuck,  I saw you on MSNBC this morning.  You commented that Hillary may now be preparing SC as a fire wall against a lost to Obama in IA and NH...good luck.  As Clyburn stated:

Obama's campaign contends an Iowa victory would send a strong signal about his electability.

"He does that, nobody beats him in South Carolina," said US Representative James Clyburn, a prominent black political leader in the state who is neutral in the primary.

Game On......
The media has cast the Dem race between 2 candidates from the gitgo. They got what they wanted - a race between a white woman and a black man.
Of course, the media's "subtle" racism helps Hillary.


I am fired up and ready to go vote for Obama he is the man
The leading Democratic presidential candidates showed up for the Iowa Democratic Party’s big Jefferson Jackson Dinner Saturday night.

Five of them gave really good speeches.

Barack Obama’s was excellent.

That says it all.....
Listen chuck, Obama will win the whole black votes in south carolina. They are just waiting for the right signal.

After talking to some of my folks in Georgia who intend to campaign heavily for Obama in south carolina, i reached a conclusion by giving south carolina to Obama. He seems to be trumping Clinton  organization wise.

The religious voter will propell him to victory in that state.

The black folks are politically sarvy and can smell an authentic politician 1 million miles away. The good old days politics of endorsement won't matter come Jannuary - most especially among the educated black voters.

The south carolina politics will be won on ground campaign and Obama seems to have it.
Of course, the media's "subtle" racism helps Hillary.


Lisa, Tifton, GA (Sent Monday, November 12, 2007 9:53 AM)

THE INVISIBLE PRIMARY—INVISIBLE NO LONGER
A First Look at Coverage of the 2008 Presidential Campaign
October 29, 2007

A study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism and the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy

In the early months of the 2008 presidential campaign, the media had already winnowed the race to mostly five candidates and offered Americans relatively little information about their records or what they would do if elected, according to a comprehensive new study of the election coverage across the media.
The press also gave some candidates measurably more favorable coverage than others. Democrat Barack Obama, the junior Senator from Illinois, enjoyed BY FAR THE MOST POSITIVE treatment of the major candidates during the first five months of the year—followed closely by Fred Thompson, the actor who at the time was only considering running. Arizona Senator John McCain received the most negative coverage—much worse than his main GOP rivals."


http://www.journalism.org/node/8187


They couldn't be any more unfair...


Van
Why no mention of Edwards here? His speech at the J-J dinner was awesome! Why are the media bound & determined to simply ignore John Edwards as if he doesn't exist? Why are they adamant about this race being between the woman and the black candidate? I hope Edwards wins Iowa going away and shows up all the talking heads!
Obama needs to stay on the offensive & not apologize about it.  Hillary will implode under the weight of her own baggage, when the party finally wakes up to the very real prospect of 55% of the general electorate pulling the lever for whoever is running against her.  Not to mention the prospect of Mitt or Rudy selecting our next Supreme Court justice, which means kiss your civil liberties goodbye forever.

OBAMA '08 ALL THE WAY
Where is the mention of the wonderful speech from John Edwards???? Folks, you are doing the country a great disservice by not reporting on Sen. Edwards.
I have a tip for the national media. David Yepsen sometimes gets it wrong. I don't know if he has it wrong this time, but you would do well to make your own judgements.
TO LISA in TIFTON GA: hmmmm.... your comment sounded awfully racist... maybe the term 'gitgo' was key! We should all be proud to finally see some diversity in our leadership, especially at the Presidential level!
Who said "I gave that family hope and then went into the courtroom and gave them hell." ? I believe it was John Edwards, who spoke first, and beautifully. Isn't the press supposed to report all the news, just what they find convenient? Mr. Obama may be a fine person, as with Mrs. Clinton, but they are not the choice of a vast number of independents and democrats. Please remember why you went into journalism. Was it to discover the truth? or to craft it?
Ya'd think that Yepsen is the only person in Iowa who counts. All of the candidates gave great speeches - Edwards was especially transcendent. Many reports from Iowa say that the actual ATTENDEES of the dinner were impressed by all three frontrunners, and Biden and Dodd on top of that.

Yet, here we are, back in Hillary! Obama! land.

Let me know which one of you has the deal with the oddsmakers in Vegas - I can't figure out for the life of my why you all are still under the delusion that there are only two Dems running for the nomination.

I think Obama did very well on Sunday with Tim Russert, he did not cave in or seem irritated when Obama was pressed for answers and he certainly did not waffle - Obama was clear on the points. For those who want to compare Saturday and Sunday...they were 2 different scenarios one a rally/dinner, the other question and answer session - one prepared on what he was saying to a point and the other not, so again there are no comparisons - please note.  
It's on!

Firewall turned on or not, the Obama tsunami is coming. Hill, it'll be all over before you know what hits you.
Listen chuck, Obama will win the whole black votes in south carolina. They are just waiting for the right signal.

After talking to some of my folks in Georgia who intend to campaign heavily for Obama in south carolina, i reached a conclusion by giving south carolina to Obama. He seems to be trumping Clinton  organization wise.

The religious voter will propell him to victory in that state.

The black folks are politically sarvy and can smell an authentic politician 1 million miles away. The good old days politics of endorsement won't matter come Jannuary - most especially among the educated black voters.

The south carolina politics will be won on ground campaign and Obama seems to have it.
Bee (Sent Monday, November 12, 2007 10:07 AM)

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My, my Bee has people in GEORGIA!!! FOLKS!!
Sounds like he/she has been toying with us, lol.
Such a busy bee working NH, IOWA! AND GEORGIA!!
If the meat stinks throw it out!
I live in Des Moines and read the Register daily.  The statement above 'There may be no more important judge of Obama's J-J appearance than the Des Moines Register's David Yepsen, and he gave the candidate the clear win. Yepsen predicts that the "the passion he showed should help him close the gap on Hillary Clinton by tipping some undecided" Iowa Dems his way.'

David Yepsen is a Republican with an agenda.  Joe Biden clearly was the best of all the speakers.  Also, I'd like to point out that out of the 9,000 tickets availabel Hillary purhcased 5,000 and Obama purchased 2,000 in order to bring volunteers in and stage the event.  Talk about total lack of character.
Craig Crawford has been shilling for Clinton without understanding the power of Obama's ground operation in IA.  That's not very smart for a supposed "political expert".  It's also amusing to listen to Chris Matthews say that "maybe I was wrong" to suggest that Obama should have been stronger in his attacks on Clinton.  The Obama campaign is smart enough to not listen to these pundits that have nothing more at stake than to say "maybe I was wrong" about the expert advice they are dispensing between commercial breaks.
Watch what happens in IA -- Obama has more field offices, more volunteers and has spent twice as much as Clinton.
Obama/Webb '08!
'...Clinton’s “references to Mr. Obama were some of her most direct attacks on him and reflected the strength that Mr. Obama was showing in polls in this state, though he lags behind her in national polls...'

Someone is changing her campaign style !
She must be getting nervous !!
Hillary's 'Rove style' campaigning is finally startign to show.
Last month, she accused a questioner of being a 'plant'.
She probably thought that other campaigns were using her Mark Penn, 'Rove wannabe' tactics.

Eho was REALLY behing the media's OBSESSION with John Edwards' haircut ?
Hint, hint: Mark Penn, Hillary's campaign manager !!


Bee: '...Listen chuck, Obama will win the whole black votes in south carolina. They are just waiting for the right signal...'

Bee, I hope you're right.
But, I'm not sure.
Talking to the Black people I work with is eye opening.
It's mainly miđle class, miđle aged black women.
About half seêm to be for Clinton !?!
And, mainly it's because of Bill.
It's unscieentific, but my small sample shows half for Hillary.
Maybe, when Obama shows his viabiltiy, they'll switch
It's hard to imagine, they wouldn't
Organization, truth, respect and a constitutional scholar that has a 72%likebility rating...did I mention he is a proven uniter. Obama '08! Iowa is ready to go for this man. Caucus 1/03/08!!!
Why does everyone get on the defense when their choice of a canidate is not highlighted as the topic or conversation/article...that's the reason the mindset of this country is mixed up...we don't agree so we have to get angry and say mean things...
I heard Chris Matthews say on a show, where's the passion, fight ? Well you saw it in John Edwards Saturday night. I'm sure Chris will not acknowledge this. MSNBC's blatent marginalizing of this candidate is amazing. Sorry, the electorate is on to you this time. GO JOHN GO !
obama is a great guy....a great guy with little or no experience....right now we need someone with a LOT of experience....how about joe biden?
Who has the best experience and judgement? Who makes unpopular stances when it could cost them politically?  Who's background and level of experience best embodies Abe Lincoln (one of the greatest presidents in the US)?  Who can best unite the country?  Who has a better understanding of the world especially the muslim world?  Obama, that's who!
I am shocked that Crawford gave Obama even a glacingly nice report.  Crawford is a committed Clintonista that he usually does not bother to view things fairly.
this is indeed shocking.
But, yes, Obama's organizational strength has been floating under the radar for months.  It is good to have it showcased for an evening.
John Edwards was on fire at the JJ Day event.  He is the only one who really tells it like it is -- no parsing, no plants, no platitudes.  Hillary and Obama (both MIA on important votes -- that's leadership?) bussed in supporters from out of state.  John's support is strong, local and real.

Go John!
I was at the JJ Dinner and applaud the Obama campaign for their savvy group of supporters. They definitely won the cheer competition.

John Edwards made a few points no one should forget and his speech trumps Obama's and Obama's bussed in adoring fans.

First, he said as clearly as possible, the system in Washington is broken.

The lobbyists not only influence the laws, they write them.

We need to take on the special interests and win. He has fought corporate corruption and beat them again and again. He gave his clients hope then went into the courtroom and gave those corrupt corporations hell.

Leaving the world a better place for our children, as our parents did before us, is the great moral challenge of our time.

Iowans get to look candidates in the eye and evaluate their trustworthiness and he urged us all to make that judgement, including of him, for the rest of the United States and the world.

Finally, when caucusing for a candidate, "trust your heart".
A Republican like David Yepsen endorsing Obama ? Makes sense…Obama is a gimmicky showman with little substance and no experience behind his rhetoric.
Clinton gave a much stronger and substantive speech as always.  She is clearly the strongest and best candidate.
The reason you people think Obama was the best speaker and he was not, was because he had the loudest, rudest crowd there, even busing in outside people from outside of Iowa.  But they were too loud and too tacky.  I hope I never see this again at such an event. As for Hillary, this speech was neither sincere or original, just planned, with her people holding up ugly yellow signs and chanting during intermit moments during her speech, ala the Brown shirts of Hitler's era, disgusting.  John Edwards was the most sincere and moving candidate, this is the man who should be the next President of the US.  WAKE UP MSNBC, and stop pushing these phony two people running for President, you obviously want Romney to win the general election. Look at the polls in Iowa and NH, stop pushing Hillary Clinton and Obama, the people here writing comments really believe you people. Vote for Hillary & Bill Clinton, or the straw man Barack Obama, and wait for the destruction of the country.
I use to be a big John Edwards fan.  Latly he sounds more of a whinner than a presidenal candidate.  Biden is my favorite but his chances are nil.  He would make a great Sec of State.  I do believe that Sen. Clinton has the only chance to take back the White House.  Sen Obama seem like a good person, who has our best interest at heart, just like Jimmy Cater, but he does not speak with the strength of Sen. Clinton.  She could well be the next Iron Lady.
I am truly amazed at this "objective" journalism once again.  You want to know who truly brought down the house on Saturday night getting a standing ovation from the Hillary section AND Obama section at the JJ Dinner in Des Moines from someone who was there???  That would be former Senator John Edwards and the obvious oversight is telling from your corporate run media outlet such as MSNBC. Let the truth be known.  
Way back in 2004, listening to Obama at the Democratic National Convention, i decided if he ever ran for President, he'd have my support.  He reminded me of Mario Cuomo's stirring speech at a much earlier convention.  In 2004 I was tired of the politics of division and the stand-still in Congress and a horrible war in Iraq.  At 58 years old, I whole heartedly support the only candidate, Obama, who is looking ahead and toward the future rather than squabbling about the past 20 years, trying to prove some point.
I got to meet Senator Obama for a few seconds at a DC rally in September.  I shook his hand and thanked him for running so we could move the entire country forward.
His words at the JJ Dinner make clear he is still the only one focused on taking America back and moving forward.
Fact Check: Obama on Meet the Press
Iran
Sen. Obama criticized Hillary's vote for Kyl-Lieberman because—he argued—the resolution said that force structures in Iraq would have an impact on Iranian influence:

The primary difference between myself and Senator Clinton is that she believes our force structure inside Iraq should in part depend on how we can prevent Iran from having influence inside of Iraq.
Actually, Sen. Obama said the exact same thing just last year:

A reduced but active presence [in Iraq] will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region
…Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening.
Social Security
Sen. Obama claimed that Hillary said that all we need to do to solve the long term challenges in social security is return to fiscal responsibility:

So on social security for example, she has maintained, it appears, that if we just get our fiscal house in order that we can solve the problem of Social Security.
Actually, Hillary said that returning to fiscal responsibility is the first step. Then she would appoint a bi-partisan commission to address Social Security's long term challenges that would consider a variety of options:

"But I am strongly advocating a bipartisan process, similar to what we had in '83, and when that gets set up, as I hope it will be when I'm president, then I'm going to see what the bipartisan members are going to come up with."
This was an approach that, until very recently, Sen. Obama endorsed. Here's Sen. Obama in May:

Everything should be on the table. I think we should approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in 1983. They came together. I don't want to lay out my preferences beforehand, but what I know is that Social Security is solvable. It is not as difficult a problem as we're going to have with Medicaid and Medicare.
Fact Check: Obama on Meet the Press
Iran
Sen. Obama criticized Hillary's vote for Kyl-Lieberman because—he argued—the resolution said that force structures in Iraq would have an impact on Iranian influence:

The primary difference between myself and Senator Clinton is that she believes our force structure inside Iraq should in part depend on how we can prevent Iran from having influence inside of Iraq.
Actually, Sen. Obama said the exact same thing just last year:

A reduced but active presence [in Iraq] will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region
…Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening.
Social Security
Sen. Obama claimed that Hillary said that all we need to do to solve the long term challenges in social security is return to fiscal responsibility:

So on social security for example, she has maintained, it appears, that if we just get our fiscal house in order that we can solve the problem of Social Security.
Actually, Hillary said that returning to fiscal responsibility is the first step. Then she would appoint a bi-partisan commission to address Social Security's long term challenges that would consider a variety of options:

"But I am strongly advocating a bipartisan process, similar to what we had in '83, and when that gets set up, as I hope it will be when I'm president, then I'm going to see what the bipartisan members are going to come up with."
This was an approach that, until very recently, Sen. Obama endorsed. Here's Sen. Obama in May:

Everything should be on the table. I think we should approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in 1983. They came together. I don't want to lay out my preferences beforehand, but what I know is that Social Security is solvable. It is not as difficult a problem as we're going to have with Medicaid and Medicare.
According to Lee in New York:

The reason you people think Obama was the best speaker and he was not, was because he had the loudest, rudest crowd.

According to the news sources.......

They had 5000 for Hillary......
2000 people for Obama........

Guess Hillary's people pretty much sat on their hands when she walked in huh?
John Edwards' spoke out strongly against a government run by lobbyists. Americans are angry, depressed, and resentful about this issue, which is at the core of many of our problems. His speech was incredible.

John Edwards has led on this issue for months. I noticed that both Obama and Hillary latched onto this issue at the JJ dinner. At least Obama can speak about it without choking on the words.

Go Edwards!
When is the MSM going to realize that this race is more important than a black man versus a white woman?  When is the MSM going to stop ignoring all the other candidates out there?  This race is about the future of this country, and the MSM should be focusing on the best CANDIDATE for the job, not what color or gender they happen to be.  I know it's not exciting to talk about a candidate who has real ideas and vision, but that's what this campaign should be about.  That's what John Edwards is about, and that's why I support him.
Why has MSNBC omitted John Edwards from the equation?He may very well WIN Iowa! Why? "Fair Trade!" Only John Edwards has called for creating a new test for trade: Will new deals benefit working families, not just multinational corporations? Iowans understand the consequences while Washington media may not...yet.
John Edwards has the most specific proposals of any candidate to re-negotiate free trade agreements so they are once again fair trade agreements. Regarding "fair trade," John Edwards is for strong labor and environmental standards and against illegal subsidies and currency manipulation. He is also for rigorous enforcement of trade agreements, not just negotiation. Edwards also advocates for the restoration of tax fairness and the enhancement of competitiveness and job growth. In the breadth and detail of his economic proposals, John Edwards differs substantially from the other candidates. The difference and contrast between Edwards and Clinton/Obama is that Edwards has the keener sense of what unfair trade has meant while Clinton double-talks about "trade balance" and "seeing NAFTA with hindsight." Obama and Clinton both supported the dubious Peru FTA.
John Edwards is informed by the fact that 300,000 taxpayers make half of the nation's income, while 150 million make the other half, which represents the greatest income inequality in this country since 1928. This reality has been exacerbated by the combination of unfair tax practices, the ill effects of unfair globalization, and trade policies that mostly enrich multinational corporations and certainly not workers.
"It's time we honored work in this country, not just wealth." - John Edwards /
Jerry - Please give us the source of your numbers - I have never heard that Obama had only 2000 supporters -
Michael:
DesMoinesRegister.comFrom what I've heard, Clinton's campaign has purchased 5000 tickets to the Jefferson Jackson dinner and is busing people in. Obama is also doing this at an ...
www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071109/NEWS/71109016 - 45k - Cached - Similar pages

Here is my source....

However, for some strange reason, the Des Moines Register.com has pulled or blocked the story LOL.

Maybe on orders from Hillary Clinton?


Obama’s speech in Iowa shows exactly how inexperienced he is in politics. He is also very naive and misleading to the America public to suggest this idea of “hope cures all”  The nation and the globe are in near crises to suggest the nation will be healed, a world repaired and an America that believes is just totally naive.  If Obama thinks he’s going to walk into the white house and the world becomes a miraculous bed of roses- he is in for a major SCHOCK!   We need a practical leader who knows what it is going to be like to lead a nation and an administration after George Bush.  Obama in the White House is dangerous as he is just too naïve about  politics, the state of the world and how to deal with it. We need Clinton’s strength and experience now more than ever.  Obama’s “happy” ideas are just not practical.
I have the following comments as to misleading statements in Obama´s speech:

1) Obama said he had a universal health care plan and that is not so. His health care plan leaves and estimated 15 million people without health care. Edward´s health care plan leaves no one out.

2) Obama touted his stance on not taking lobbyist money, yet he DID take lobbyist money in positioning himself for his run for the Presidency. John Edwards has NEVER taken lobbyist or PAC money.

3) Obama said he was against the Kyl-Lieberman ammendment, yet he supported similar legislation and importantly, the phraseology of calling the Iranian army a "terrorist organization". When it came to the vote, on K-L, Obama was a no show.  Biden, Dodds and Clinton made the roll call (Clinton voted for and Biden and Dodd against).

4) Obama said he found the endorsement of torture a disgrace yet he was also a no show on the Muckasey vote as were Clinton, Biden and Dodd. Edwards was opposed to Muckasey´s appointment but is not in the Senate and could not vote.

5) Obama spoke of protecting workers yet he approves the Peru FTA, which protects neither Peruvian nor American workers. Whether he will show up for that vote remains to be seen. Clinton is also for the Peru FTA. Edwards is opposed.

Obama is an eloquent speaker and had I not been aware of his hypocrisy in touting his positions, I would also have been moved by his speech. Being aware of his hipocrisy, no thanks to the MSM´s coverage, his speech was abhorrent.

Obama did give a great speech, but I am *floored* that the MSM stories about the J-J dinner have ignored John Edwards's speech: the single most truthful, hard-hitting, and passionate speech I heard that evening.

I guess that doesn't fit into the MSM's predetermined narrative, though (which also ignored the fact that the Clinton and Obama camps bused in thousands of out-of-state volunteers to the event).

I would like nothing better than to see Edwards shock the hell out of the media and political establishment and their corporate masters when the American people finally speak for themselves this January and February.
John Edwards clearly made the speech of the night---Edwards stands head and shoulders above all the others with his courage, integrity, and willingness to "say it like it is."

He has led on all the issues, laying out progressive, bold plans to help working class Americans, well before the others even mentioned the issues on their websites.  He has stated over and over that the system is "rigged" against average Americans, and has fought corporate abuse on behalf of working class families his whole life.

Edwards is also authentic...unlike Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, he does not bus supporters in to these events.  He is the "real deal."

It's a dead heat in Iowa right now, and it is absolutely unbelievable, but predictable, that the corporate media is  trying to ignore Edwards---the big corporations are scared to death of having a populist trial attorney in the White House who will
equalize the playing field for the rest of us.

When Edwards wins Iowa, the media can no longer ignore him.  Go, Edwards!

Some practical matters: Edwards has a good organization and a lot of strong supporters in Iowa. I know some Iowa AFSCME members who are supporting him in spite of the union's support for Clinton. There also are some people in Iowa who are strong supporters of  Richardson, Biden, Dodd and even Kucinich. If they don't have enough people for their candidate to make a viable group at the caucuses, they may switch their support to another candidate. An important question is which candidate will get their support. At a caucus a few votes can make a difference. In Iowa, it's not over until it's over.
This is the post on Sunday from First Read:

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
IOWA JEFFERSON JACKSON DINNER COVERAGE
DES MOINES, IA – Nearly one in three people at last night’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner was an Obama supporter. The campaign brought 3,000 supporters to a dinner that had 9,000 attendees. They also made sure to have a representative from each of Iowa’s 99 counties in attendance.

When asked if all of the Obama supporters attending the event were from Iowa, Obama’s Iowa Press Secretary Tommy Vietor said, “All of them. Except for my dad.”

Jerry, NBC News reports 3,000 Obama supporters at the event.
Mary, VA, Stop spreading lies that Obama bused in supporters from out-of-state unless you have a better source than NBC News.
I just really think that those who blatently go against Obama on this post are just Clinton plants. I mean really, especially those under the guise of Edwards supporters. Even John Edwards likes Obama and think that he is a good candidate. But to post lies and deceptions about Obama, that is clearly a Clinton strategy.

Sorry though, it won't work, you are better off saying why you support your candidate than trying to rip apart Obama, b/c his supporters are truly "Fired up, and ready to go"
Thanks to all the commentators who have reported on John Edwards' speech at the J-J dinner.  I came to First Read today to find out how the event went on Saturday night.  I did expect the media to be biased, however I also expected that this was supposed to be such an important night that there would at least be some commentary on all the candidates speeches.  I was more than suprised that we only heard about two speakers, and particularly surprised that absolutely nothing was said about John Edwards since he is in such a close position in Iowa.  Nothing positive, nor even anything negative was stated about Edwars. So thanks again to the comments section for filling me in on what First Read left out.

When I listen to John Edwards and his supporters, and read real contrasts in his positions with the other candidates, I think, 'How can this guy lose?'  But when I read a lot of the media coverage, or watch the TV pundits, I wonder how can he win.

I hope Iowans will see through all of this, and give Edwards the push into the spotlight that he needs.
It is so sad to see people insist their choice for president is the only right choice, and refuse to be open-minded to know more. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, do not judge only by who's speech is better, check if what they say match what they do, who they really are. You are choosing a president for this country. Instead of "bite" each other, talk about real issues we are facing, and compare their positions, not by speech, not by charming, not by rumors. Go with your guts.

Did someone suggest to see the Meet the press ? (Maybe from other post)If you missed it, go to check it out. It might surprise you. I was shocked.


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