Really? I'd figure him more for a "bottom."

Huckabee is the surprise of the bunch. Without much money and no adverts.

I do not believe rudys poll numbers---voters are not ready for george(rudy)bush again------he knows all about the crook kerik h---they were joined from the hip.They probably entertained their ho's together in the apartment.You know double dating.

More interesting are the TWO Iowa polls released this morning -- one of them has Huckabee TYING Romney, in a truly stunning result. Clinton holds on to small leads. Check out the polls: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/morning-polls-iowa-iowa-iowa.html

Then again they fell for Jeb Bush, too.

Going to kind of hard to vote for Hillary in Florida if they have no delegates......

As far as democratic party is concern Florida doesn't count because they don't have delegates to present.

Taken from First Read’s posts, in reverse chronological order, starting yesterday:

Post 1:

The toplines of the New York Times/CBS poll: In Iowa, Romney leads with 27%, followed by Huckabee at 21% and Giuliani at 15%. In New Hampshire, Romney is at 34%, with Giuliani and McCain tied at 16%.

Post 2:

In our opinion, the biggest news in the New York Times/CBS polls of Iowa and New Hampshire isn’t… Thompson in fourth place in Iowa (at 9%) and sixth place in New Hampshire (at 5%).

Then today:

Post 3:

…Rudy Giuliani leading the GOP in Florida… Those tied for second are Fred Thompson 13%; John McCain 13%; Mitt Romney 12%; and Mike Huckabee 10%.


So in different posts, FR covers 1st to 6th place in various GOP polls… and (anecdotally) it seems as though FR loves to cover fundraising.  But when you glance at the lower right corner of FR to see the number of posts for each of the candidates for POTUS… it seems as though there is one glaring exception:  Ron Paul.  

And one significant “indicator” that you’re missing (though you did mention the UT sky banner!): passionate, committed support.  

While Ron Paul currently has only 7% of primary voters… that 7% is passionate and unwavering.  HRC, Huck, Rudy McRomney and others may each have for more support… but I have no doubt that the passion of those supporters is low and wavering…  just last night I was holding a sign for Ron Paul at a busy interesection in Norwalk, CT… getting a thumbs up from about 1 in 10 cars…  and tell me this… of the “top tier” candidates… how many have John Q Public or Joe Sixpack waving signs for them at this point in the campaign?

And here’s a new polling idea for you.  Ask two questions:  who do you support?  And are you committed to supporting that person?  Then deduct the second from the first.  I wouldn’t be at all surprised if RP came out #1.

I don't live in Florida, but in general it's going to be hard for me to vote this presidential election.  I am an independent (there are things that republicans stand for and things that democrats stand for that I like; but no one issue stands out so I tend to go with the person I like best not their party label).  However, this time around it's going to be hard to vote because I don't think either party will put up anyone worth voting for.  I voted for Bush in 2000, but will never make the mistake of voting for anyone who supports him again- that takes out a lot of people.  However, here is my personal take on some of the candidates:

For Dems; the most qualified are Richardson and Biden.  I like Obama, but he doesn't have enough experience, Dodd has experience but I just don't have any passion for him.  Edwards is FAKE and really doesn't have experience.  Hillary is just ok- she does have experience and is likeable, but I don't know.  Neither Richardson nor Biden will be the nominee, so I won't like the candidate for the democrats.

For the republicans, I like Ron Paul the best.  McCain has the experience, but again, I just don't have any passion for him- besides his support of the war is a problem for me.  Guiliani has no experience whatsoever, all he talks about is 9/11 and isn't likeable.  Romney is FAKE and also doesn't have experience.  I like Huckabee, but he has no experience and is an ardent war supporter and I'm afraid he'll be another Bush- my way or the highway.  Paul is the only viable one and he won't be the nominee, so I don't like the Republican nominee either.

The lesser of two evils would most likely be the Democratic nominee, but I don't know.  I'll have to see.  I think Paul as Pres, Richardson as VP and Biden as SOS would be ideal, but it will never happen

Clinton plain and simple cannot beat Giuliani in a national election.  The Republicans will tear her non-stances to shreds.  Giuliani is a moderate Republican that will draw far more independents than Clinton.  Her negatives are ASTRONOMICAL compared to every other candidate.

It appears that Hillary is a "lock" in Florida. Solid numbers indeed.

I don't agree.  I as an independent would vote for Clinton before Guiliani any day.  She has more experience than him and I like her better.  He is a crook, an idiot and a loyal George Bush follower.  He is not a moderate Republican as he supports the war.

47% for Hillary in an 8 person field – amazing.  Proof of her wide/deep appeal amongst democrats and why she is (by far) the one to beat amongst democrats.  Also proof that the media hysteria of the last 2 weeks has not had an impact on her big lead.

The self righteous attacks of Obama and Edwards are not working.  

the arena for domestic policies is the congress, noone on the platform at the debate can get their position passed thru congress and committee as is. while i want my candidate to reflect my opinions on domestic issues that ultimately is up to congress and not the pres., other than veto power. what we need to focus on is if the pres. candidate reflects your foreign policy agenda, his domain. if you want to continue the war in iraq, vote gop, if not demo. as to candidate i like biden for international experience of foreign affairs. he the only demo with a concise iraq supported plan from both sides of isle, he anticipated pakistan problem, and voted for funding troops stuck there. he basically said the troops shouldn't he held hostage to politics and he'd vote for funding to protect their lives no matter what the consequences politically. if you want the demo agenda domestically then vote the trifecta [house,senate,and president] to win that but vote for president on foreign policy, his realm. for me, that's biden. my money says he'd appeal to independents more than the current CEO [clinton,edwards,obama] and beat whichever gop gets thr nod.

Her negatives are ASTRONOMICAL compared to every other candidate.

Ron, TX (Sent Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:43 PM)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/for_or_against_presidential_candidates

The two LEAST polorizing candidates are;

Clinton 32(DF) 44(DA)-12
Rudy    27(DF) 40(DA)-13

Edwards 22     41    -19
Obama   23     44    -21

Favorable/Unfavorable

Clinton 45/52
Obama   45/50

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

You won't back up what you claim. You won't admit you're wrong when confronted with actual DOCUMENTATION, and I predict you'll say the same thing again, even after I have generously given you a place to get your facts from that is far superior to the part of your anatomy that you usually pull you info from...


Van

Interesting to note that Hillary leads by a larger margin in The DEmocratic race, than does Gigolo Rudy 'G' in the republiCANT race.
I wonder where Rudy's numbers will be after the publicity for Kerik's criminal trial, and the civil lawsuit against him starts.

Rudy the red nosed republican...he cheats, he lies, he tortures, he bombs..he's a bushie

"Clinton plain and simple cannot beat Giuliani in a national election.

Ron, TX (Sent Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:43 PM)"

Clinton ONLY beats Rudy in 9 of the most recent 10 polls, and the least current one at that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

You won't back up what you claim. You won't admit you're wrong when confronted with actual DOCUMENTATION, and I predict you'll say the same thing again, even after I have generously given you a place to get your facts from that is far superior to the part of your anatomy that you usually pull you info from...


Van

Jerry

How does that situation in Florida play out?  Do Democratic voters make their choice anyway, but no delegates go to the convention?  

Dot, I believe the Florida delegates will be allowed at the convention but their votes for the Presidential nomination won't count.

Thanks, John B Des Moines, IA

I am speaking seriously when I say that I learn so much from this blog.

Why is the media still reporting democratic poll numbers in Florida?  Florida is no longer going to be counted because they violated the democratic party's rules - none of the candidates have gone there in months.  The numbers there don't mean anything.

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