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Fact-checking Hillary on Social Security

Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:49 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
LAS VEGAS -- She said, "Social Security was on a path to being solvent into 2055," when talking about the fiscal situation Bush inherited -- and then squandered -- when he took office. But again, we must make this point: A 2001 Social Security Board of Trustees report, released just a couple of months after her husband left office, said the program would remain solvent until 2038, not 2055. And now, Social Security's solvency is 2041, per the Trustees.

Also, she said that raising the income cap on Social Security taxes would amount to a trillion-dollar tax increase. Yet the AP overheard Clinton last month telling a voter that she might consider such a hike on that cap, if there was a gap in protecting those making less than $200,000.

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The woman is completely abysmal.
She'll say anything and everything to get elected.
Right now, she's talking about being a uniter... but by God, you think this country is polarized with Bush in office, look out if Hillary is elected.
Nit picking of a number wont add much. Clinton campaign will issue a correction. The point we should discuss is will their approach work? Will Republicans like it?

The issues and the solution approaches are more important.
I as a female baby boomer and my husband will not vote for Hilary because we feel she is just another corporate hack who is accepting big money from big business. Who has a track record of supporting big business and would continue to do so as president. Most people don't know that Social Security is solvent until 2040 and their are many ways to increase the funds for Social Security and Medicade. One is eliminating tax cuts for the ultra rich, limit the billions that we give corporations tax free, it's called corporate welfare.We gave the drug companies billions. That needs to be reversed. The war in Iraq has now cost 1.5 Trillion dollars. War = Protfits and the military is in an out of control spending spree that will leave us on an economic ash heap. Economist Dean Baker recommends that we tax each stock transaction 50 cents. This is a low impact way of raising billions. This is what they do in the UK. There is plenty of money out there but the military, now planning and new expensive new Star Wars syetem that will cost trillions and may not even work is already being funded imbedded in the funds for Iraq. Let's tell our reps BIG CUTS FOR WASTED BILLIONS TO THE MILITARY. It's our tax dollars they are spending.
So you are saying that she took 2 positions?
This debate was so disruptive. I never thought that I would be sucking up to MSNBC but, thanks guys for a good debate(organized and professional) a couple of weeks ago. Thanks to all other debate moderators elsewhere(other stations) before you guys too. This cnn thing should have been boycotted by all(including candidates). I could not follow the candidates with all the interruptons. Why were the moderators(esp at the end) commenting when the audience was asking questions. Again, you guys here need to overtake cnn in the ratings. Cnn is fox-lite. It was an embarrassment for all Democrats.
This lunatic Clinton has so many professional lies hidden! Another scandal cooking??  Where and when is she going to shut her big mouth!!!  False conjecture, open face liar, She makes billy boy look like a school yard bum.

Billary your not Presidential material. your just both Washington self serving Paper Hangers of ""PAST"". America moved on sense showing you the back door of the White House!!

You disgraced our country, both liars, immoral being, misconduct of a President, how much more scandal and conjecture can be hidden?

These debate's prove your not What America wants as the next President!


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