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Oh-eight (R): Turning off moderates?

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:11 AM by Mark Murray
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Could Giuliani being moving to far to the right? This Des Moines Register piece indicates that some Iowa GOP moderates seem to be turned off a bit by the wooing of conservatives.

GIULIANI: Clinton isn’t the only New Yorker who is stepping things up in Iowa. The New York Times’ Nagourney notes the Giuliani campaign has stepped up his radio ads, phone calls and mailings to the state in an effort, apparently, to be competitive. "The moves have come at a time of growing uncertainty in the Iowa Republican contest, with Mr. Huckabee and former Senator Fred D. Thompson of Tennessee stepping up their spending and organizing. And there are growing signs that it will be largely fought over illegal immigration… The developments pose a particular threat to Mr. Romney, who has spent more time and money here than any of the other Republican candidates. A loss or a shaky win here could weaken him going into New Hampshire; his strategy is based on winning both states."

Giuliani is going up with a new TV in New Hampshire (and Boston). “I believe I’ve had the most leadership experience of anyone that’s running,” Rudy says in the ad. “It’s not just holding executive positions, like Mayor of New York, or United States Attorney, or 3rd ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department. It’s having held those positions in time of crisis. I’ve been tested in a way in which the American people can look to me. They’re not going to find perfection, but they’re going to find somebody who has dealt with crisis almost on a regular basis and has had results. And in many cases, exceptional results. Results people thought weren’t possible.”

If NASCAR can go to Miami (not exactly a Southern enclave) then Giuliani can become a NASCAR fan, right? The Washington Post: "In some ways, Giuliani and NASCAR fans seem a natural match. Of 10 people randomly interviewed in and around Section 204, there were two nearly unanimous political opinions: Giuliani seems like a strong leader, particularly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and that anybody was better than Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D), another New York figure, although not by any means a native." 
 
The New York Times’ Frank Rich writes on the Judith Regan mess and calls her Giuliani's "Linda Tripp." "Ms. Regan’s knowledge of Mr. Giuliani isn’t limited to whatever she learned from Mr. Kerik. She used to work for another longtime Giuliani pal, Roger Ailes, the media consultant for the first Giuliani campaign in 1989 and the impresario who created Fox News for Mr. Murdoch in 1996. A full-service mayor to his cronies, Mr. Giuliani lobbied hard to get the Fox News Channel on the city’s cable boxes and presided over Mr. Ailes’s wedding. Enter Ms. Regan, who was given her own program on Fox’s early lineup. Mr. Ailes came up with its rather inspired first title,  “That Regan Woman.”

How about this headline in the Giuliani’s hometown paper: “Rudy Giuliani jets to campaign stops using casino kingpin's plane.” “Rudy Giuliani is jetting around the country wooing Bible-thumping conservatives, but his plane is often provided by a king of Sin City. The Republican presidential hopeful anted up more than $122,000 last summer alone for jets traceable to casino kingpin Sheldon Adelson, whose Las Vegas Sands empire has made him the third-richest American,” the New York Daily News reports.

Over the weekend, Giuliani said, per the Daily News: "I cannot figure out where some imperative exists for taking the words 'Under God' out of the Pledge of Allegiance or to ban the mention of the 10 amendments in a public square," he said. As the crowd began to clap, Giuliani quickly amended himself: "The Ten Commandments."

HUCKABEE: Huckabee attempted to contrast himself on abortion with Thompson, specifically on the idea that the issue should be decided by the states. “‘It's the logic of the Civil War,’ Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. ‘If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong.’”

“‘For those of us for whom this is a moral question, you can't simply have 50 different versions of what's right,’ he said in an interview on ‘Fox News Sunday.’”

MCCAIN: Is McCain skipping Iowa? The Sunday Washington Post hinted that he is. "The candidate has brought the bulk of his limited resources to bear here [in New Hampshire]. Even during the campaign's darkest days this summer, not one of his public supporters switched sides here, and his visits to the state far outnumber those to others hosting early contests."

Yet NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann reports that McCain's Iowa staff insists that the senator's campaign in Iowa is alive, kicking, and looking to grow. In fact, the campaign says it is planning on a substantial number of hires in the coming weeks (there are currently 12 paid staffers). "Our fundamental strategy hasn't changed," says state director Jon Seaton. "We will be very competitive in Iowa."

"In a speech here that his campaign described as the kind of pointed but respectful approach he will take for the rest of the campaign, Mr. McCain sought to tap into the anti-Clinton sentiment seen to be driving many Republican primary voters, particularly in New Hampshire… McCain has struggled to balance his stated desire for a respectful contest with his campaign’s recognition that he has a lot of ground to cover to persuade Republicans that he would stand the best chance against Mrs. Clinton. The speech reflected that tension, citing an array of policy differences but using impersonal language.” 

Former New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean Sr. (R) will endorse McCain today, NBC’s Bethany Thomas reports.

Thomas also notes that about 200 people showed up at McCain’s town hall meeting Saturday night at Dartmouth College, where he talked about torture. “Let me explain first of all what water boarding is: you tilt someone down- with their head down and you stuff a rag over their face and you continuously pour water over them and it gives one the absolute sensation of drowning… My friends, it is a very interesting contrast between those of us who served in the military and people like Colin Powell and other senior military officers who are absolutely opposed -- absolutely opposed to the use of torture and those who have never served who believe it is a fine thing to do -- who have been watching Jack Bauer on “24” too much… We believe in good, and we don’t believe -- we shouldn’t believe that we should torture prisoners.”

PAUL: The Texas congressman gets favorable front-page treatment in the Columbia State with the headline, “Texan Paul taking the honest approach.” “He’s become an Internet sensation and, as the only Republican contender who favors an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq, a darling of the televised presidential debates. Paul, 72, is also the runaway favorite for re-election to Congress in his district, where the old ‘LBJ law’ allows him to run for president and for Congress simultaneously.”

ROMNEY: The New York Daily News looks at Romney vs. Rudy. “The former Massachusetts governor is methodical, relentlessly optimistic and almost preternaturally calm. It's hard to imagine the perfectly coiffed Romney losing his cool, much less breaking script to answer a cell phone call from his wife.” More: “With less than seven weeks until Republican voters and caucus-goers start weighing in, Romney and Giuliani are trying to tar each other with the liberal label to pursue conservatives who are key to the GOP nomination.” 
 
Per NBC/NJ’s Erin McPike, Romney unveils a new TV ad today that focuses on family and includes a few clips of home videos that showcase his own tight-knit family. The spot will start airing today in Iowa (where Romney is spending the two days immediately before Thanksgiving) and New Hampshire (where he’s spending the weekend following the holiday).

Speaking with reporters Saturday in Las Vegas, Romney again expressed his disappointment with the push-polling allegations that in New Hampshire, calling them "Un-American,” NBC’s John Boxley reports. Romney was asked about a report that the company doing the push-polling calls are actually supporters to Romney's campaign and that these calls  are in some way a ploy to drum up sympathy for Romney... Romney was clearly not happy with the question, and shot back, "It’s not likely that a company that supports my campaign would also be slandering it.”

THOMPSON: On Friday, NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell spoke with Jeri Thompson in her first network TV interview. Some excerpts… On the attention she has received with her husband running for president: “For me it was a great shock to find that what I did at the grocery store or anything in small, little detail was of interest to anybody. So, for me, that was a little bit surprising.”
On the age difference between her and Fred: “We don't think about it. It doesn't occur to us in terms of, oh, there's 24 years of difference. It just occurs to us how blessed we are, and how happy we are to be together.”
On her role as first lady, if Fred wins the presidency: “My pace would be different than some others... And there's no equivocating this. My priority would always be my two small children.  And it would be different. But it doesn't mean I wouldn't have time to advocate… I think the number one rule of the First Lady is to make sure that the president is taken care of. And that's something that I think I'm probably pretty good at.”
On whether she caused friction early on in the campaign: “I don't know about friction. Frankly, you know, when he was trying to get out of those two contracts, I was the only early campaign... And he asked me to help him, and I helped him. And I don't think that's any different than most successful marriages. You do what you know is best for them, and what they ask you to do until you've got enough people or-- or other folks to help out.”
 
The Washington Times continues to look into how Thompson won the National Right to Life endorsement and quotes a board member saying the biggest reason was electability. "The main reason for the endorsement of Thompson was simply electability and who can really beat Hillary Clinton, period," said Gregg R. Trude of the Montana Right to Life Committee. "The main thought was that Thompson can win the South and the other Republicans can't."

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The red meat for the primary voters may play but all of these guys are in for a tough time in the general election...America has had enough of tough talking republicans that let 9/11 happen...
Republicans that let 9-11 happen? LMAO you better hope if your girl wins there isn't an attack EVER.
We're not going to forget this BS logic you freaks have pushed the last 7 years.
Those who see global econmoy immigration as social issues ,best stay home and let mommy pay the bills-after all, those video games and poker are just so interesting.IF, mr. THOMPSON does not win the WHITE HOUSE - the first to go will be the weak-then the ignorant. THEY will flatter you w. entitlements as you slowly dissapear down the drain of reality.
I agree with Rick of WS, NC. Bush was asleep at the wheel before 9/11, and was taken to the woodshed for it by the 9/11 Commission (whose formation he lobbied furiously against, by the way).  Instead of picking up from where the Clinton administration left off, Bush decided to start from scratch. Richard Clarke reported that he was unable to get his attention when it became clear that al queda was planning a major domestic attack.

After 9/11, Bush overreacted, tieing the attack wrongly to Saddam Hussein, and leading us into a war that has no end in sight. He was successful initially in Afghanistan, but is slowly losing ground to the Taliban. Meanwhile, Osama is still at large, but Bush trots him out in speeches when he needs to look like he is a stalwart warrior in the fight against global terrorism.
I did not now there were any moderates left in the repub party.
"I did not now there were any moderates left in the repub party."

Neither did I. I thought there were only two types of Republicans: right wing and those who enable the right wing such as Susan Collins of Maine or Gordon Smith of Oregon.
Right wingers are all talk. They spew and they thunder and they let 9/11 happen.
Right wingers are all talk. They spew and they thunder and they let 9/11 happen. Maybe if they weren't all draft-dodging cowards?
'"The moderate part of the party, which is going to be by definition less committed to some of the fundamental tenets that the party supports, will be the first part of the party to weaken," said Terry Nelson, a former Iowan who was a top adviser to President Bush's presidential campaigns.' That illustrates just how dismissive the GOP is of the political moderates that once were the backbone of the party.  I also see comments here by conservatives that are indignant the Democrats are accepting moderates.  I've got news for you, guys.  Governments around the world work by establishing compromise among broad coalitions.  Used to be the same here, before Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay, Karl Rove, and a broad array of conservative heroes in government and the media poisoned the well.
Dave, TN;  Let me remind you that Clinton lobbed cruise missiles at the training camps in Afghanistan and warned the world that al Qaeda was the greatest terrorist threat in existence.  Then Republicans in Congress and the entire right-wing noise machine went into overdrive claiming there was no al Qaeda threat and Clinton was just trying to divert attention from Monica Lewinsky.  Then Bush took office and completely blew off any and all warnings right up until 9/11.  Well done.
Just like in 2000, MSNBC/NBC and other media outlets are PUSHING MCCAIN on the GOP side.  Every article now is about how McCAIN can and should win the GOP nod.

McCain is done!  He will not place in Iowa and will not do better than third in New Hampshire.  Then...it's over.
Dave, TN--Seven Years...OMG. You are right Dave.
America will not forget which party controlled, for the past seven years till '06, the Executive and Legislative and for the past two years the Judicial branches of Government.
Why is it that the only goal of Republican candidates for president is to beat Hillary?
Why should any Democratic be a threat?
After all The Republicans have had Seven years to create a permanent Reagan Morning in America.
Seven years to buff up the shinning city on the hill.
Seven years to create a permanent Republican majority so that America would be safe from "freaks"
Could it be that the Republicans have failed their nation? Could it be that they have sold it down the river by using fear to build power? Yet even with complete control of Government, even with bashing us with fear, even with the shredding of the Constitution and the evisceration of all oversight, they are in trouble with the American People and are destined to be sidelined for awhile. Not forever. Most thinking people want nothing to do a "permanent" Republican OR Democratic majority. Except of course for the "Architect". Turd Blossom and his kind wanted to destroy the opposition. They wanted a permanent Republican majority. Ain't gonna happen. A lot of people out there with their eyes wide open. A lot of people remember what happens you don't speak your mind  to the bullies on the blogs and in the streets.
There are no moderates in the Republican party. Only extremists. Dangerous bastards armed to the teeth, believing it is their destiny to bring on Armageddon. Of course, their will and not God's will is what matters to them
Path to 9/11 anyone?
What a bunch of drooling idiots trying to rewrite history in a failed attempt to avoid responsibility.

All of you are every bit as much of a clown as both the Clintons.

If there is a time you decide to mature try not to be too kind to yourselves...you don't deserve it.
"What a bunch of drooling idiots trying to rewrite history in a failed attempt to avoid responsibility."

I know! Trying to pretend the little monkey isn't totally responsible! Glad there's at least one "personal responsibility" neocon that understands you come from a party of incompetent blame-spreaders, AT BEST!
Armed to the teeth?  These chickenhawks?  LMAO!!
HES SO FAR RIGHT HES WRONG ,ASK MACAIN ABOUT INDEPENDANTS
DO YOU REPUBLICANS THINK YOU CAN GET RID OF ABORTION .YOU COULDNT WHEN YOU HAD BOTH HOUSES AND THE EXECUTIVE AND A MAJORITIY ON THE COURT,DONT YOU FEEL USed.THEY DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK IF IT MAKES THEM MONEY
Chris C/S, CO--Doesn't change the fact that as Bush goes down he drags your beloved Republican party with him. He is the reason your Legislators are heading for the backdoor. He is the corrupter of reasonable Conservatism which will cause your moderates to walk in '08 leaving you with some part of the fractured Fundamentalist base as the other fragments sell their convictions for a candidate that can "win" against Hillary. Your party has fallen hard and far. You are back to the single pathetic goal of beating a Clinton it the General election.
What did you people do with 7 years? Whatever it was certainly didn't further the interests our nation or inspire anyone other than those licking the bottom of their kool-aid cups.
I think you will find that most Americans have had enough mediocrity to last them at least two election cycles.
Dress warm, pack light, and enjoy the political wilderness.
Chris C/S, if you have some contrary information let's hear it.  Otherwise you're demonstrating your own lack of maturity in choosing to engage in name calling rather than debate.  Or you have nothing to refute what others have said so you're just engaging in the politics of personal destruction like your heroes.
"Armed to the teeth?  These chickenhawks?  LMAO!! "

Seriously - the NRA crowd really is only interested in shooting at things that will never shoot back - they'll surrender the Constitution in two seconds if they can keep their sport / inner-city calibre guns.
"Whatever it was certainly didn't further the interests our nation or inspire anyone other than those licking the bottom of their kool-aid cups."

Not true!

- The biggest shift of wealth since 1945!

- National debt to the point where every single New Deal program and everything after it is jepardized.

- 300,000,000 people divided into a national bar fight

1,000,000s of people being sucked the driest amongst his most ardent supporters

GWB has accomplished what RR could only have wet dreams about. He's a credit to his class.
I am disappointed with all the big three GOP candidates for pandering to the right.

Giuliani was elected Mayor of NYC on fusion ticket of GOP and Liberal.  Yes NYS has a LIBERAL Party and Rudy was their savior.

Romney has a record of accomplishment as a moderate.  His pandering to the right has completely shot his credibility.

McCain has gone from straight talk to bootlick in his support of disasterous Bush Administration policies.  He has never stood up to them and has a straight party line voting record.

Although in the MSM only a Democrat can wear the flip-flopper title, all three of the top GOP candidates have the record to match the flip flop title.

The GOP rank and file's sanctimonious is nowhere as evident as it is in their tolerance of Giuliani, McCain and Romney's pandering.


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