Obama, stop attacking the democrats... get a clue.

Even Obamaniacs are starting to realize that you attacking the democrats is great for the GOP>

We all know the Clinton's dirty tactics. They cannot be trusted on any issues. They've been going after Rudy in the last 2 weeks and now shifting to Obama.

The Clinton's machine will do anything to get elected. She complained about mud sliding and now doing the same thing via prince of darkness.

This is the fight I have been waiting for. The Clinton must be stopped and dismiss from the Democratic Party. They’ve messed up the party with their scandal, corruption and dirty tactics.

From Raymond Chandler’s Philip Marlowe mystery, “The Lady in the Lake”:

“Police business,” he said almost gently, “is a hell of a problem. It’s a good deal like politics. It asks for the highest type of men, and there’s nothing in it to attract the highest type of men. So we have to work with what we get  --  and we get things like this.”

“I know,” I said. “I’ve always known that. I’m not bitter about it. Goodnight, Captain Webber.”

* * * * *

But knowin’ there’ll always be bad cops  --  or venal politicians  --  and knowingly votin’ for ‘em is two different kippers, ain’t it ...

Like Marlowe, the “brilliant intricacies” involved in this dance leave me cold. Stick your head backstage into the star-making machinery and pretty quickly all you can see is just that  --  the machinery. And you start to focus on it, instead of on what it’s designed to enhance ... or conceal: Was it well-oiled tonight? Were the gears meshing smoothly? Did the hocus-pocus aimed at fooling just enough of the people for just long enough actually get the job done?

Nuts to that. Those who can’t control the well outright are apt to poison it  --  and since the level of toxicity in this election is already so high I’ll just have to blunder through the rest of the way based on a few simple, unalterable tenets:

I will vote for no one  --  ever  --  who handed George Bush all the juice he needed to invade and occupy Iraq. No matter what face is put on it, no matter what rationale is advanced, no matter how important it was perceived to be to anyone’s political career.

Same goes for anyone who ever voted to fund it.

Or voted up the Patriot Act.

Corporate spaniels need not apply.

I will delete with extreme prejudice any candidate who has proposed or supported, in any way, shape, or form, the attempted effective subjugation of Iraq by splitting it into three parts; no matter how many times the word “stabilization” is thrown at me, no matter how many times I am told it’s for their own good, no matter how often the sheer, arrogant, self-destructive neocolonialism of the plan is denied.

Scratch (natch) anyone who claims to be a Democrat but talks, acts, and votes like a Republican. Or any Republican who talks, acts, and votes like a ... well, you tell me.

Those who got behind NAFTA will have to get along without me, as will  participants in the long attempt to mitigate by half-measures and self-serving band-aids the refusal of our government to enforce its own immigration laws.  I am too old, tired, and wary to excuse the expediency of selective law enforcement in any of its pernicious forms, or to abandon the precept that when you trash one law you trash them all  --  and slip chaos in by the back door.

And that pretty much indicates where I probably stand on almost any other issue. I am not inside the game, and I don’t want to be. That’s for the smart guys. The with-it women. And if every poll in the universe says I’m all wet, well ... that’s show-biz, kids.

So call me simple, and leave it at that.

Like Chuck Berry says: “Too much monkey bidness/For me to be involved in ... “

tofun , are you in the twilte zoone or somthing . Obama attacked no one , he just refused to let mis info, like people like you saying he is a undercover muslim. Hillary supporters are getting ridiculas . I think this is a sign , they know the winds are going against them . They are already making excuses for losing Iowa.

Quit hating and join the movment. Obama 08

In the column, in which he provided no attribution, Novak wrote that rival Hillary Clinton's campaign had decided against spreading ''scandalous'' information about Obama -- who challenged the rival campaign to either produce the information or refute it.

A Clinton spokesman said the campaign had no such information.

Obama said he took the Clinton team at its word, but insisted Sunday that he would never tolerate such tactics.

''I really value my reputation, my character and my family,'' he said. ''If you don't get on this stuff quick it starts drifting around. That's not something I'm going to accept because that's exactly the kind of politics we need to change.''



This is the kind of underhanded thing the Clinton's are known for doing.  Look how she went after the women she thought Bill was having an affair with.

Good for Obama, going after them and saying put up or shut up..That were trying to get a whisper campaign going, that would be untraceable and it backfired on them.

Not unusual according to Salon.com:

Much more of it comes in behind-the-scenes e-mails to newspaper reporters and bloggers -- the sorts of e-mails we get from the Clinton campaign but not from the Edwards or Obama camps: On the "off-chance" you didn't read it, here's a copy of a Washington Post editorial calling Obama "irresponsible"; just "wanted to flag this item" in which the Huffington Post criticizes Obama on Iran; here's something Edwards just said about Iraq, and here's something contradictory he said earlier.

The last of those came in an off-the-record e-mail message we received from the Clinton campaign late last month. We're probably breaking the rules in mentioning it, but we figure it's fair game: If you're going to claim that the other guys are doing something wrong in calling your candidate's views into question, you don't get to pretend that you're not doing the same.

But our larger point here isn't that the Clinton campaign's "politics of hope" argument is hypocritical -- although when Penn says that Clinton is "defining the 'politics of hope' while the others are abandoning them," it is. The larger point is that the Clinton campaign's argument is off the mark, offensive and, ultimately, unhelpful.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/10/30/hope/index.html

First Read, your opinion about Obama's debate performance is only shared by the MSN.  Other people saw it differently.  I'm willing to bet that Obama also feels he did well in the debate and saw the debate  set up for what it was.  A CNN stacked audience, soft questions, and spinning analysis all for Hilary's benefit.  Not everyone in the country thought Hilary won anything.  Just you folks.

Obama doesn't NEED to change the conversation.  He went on from the debate to Texas and had a crowd of over 3000 people.  People come out to see, shake his hand and support him.  Then he went to Iowa for other largely attended events where he had continues interruptions with standing ovations.  This was over the weekend. He is feeling the love and your interpretation about him sweating is mistaken.  Why do you bash him in such a way. Your analysis leaves much to be desired and is very biased.

Obama, stop attacking the democrats... get a clue.

Even Obamaniacs are starting to realize that you attacking the democrats is great for the GOP>

Tofun,Disney (


Wrong...we are 110% behind Obama...you should tell Hillary that

She is for NAFTA during her husband presidency and now she is against it. What a liar?

What exactly did Bill Clinton did during his presidency aside from Monica Lewinsky?

Clinton brought NAFTA, Welfare Reform and what else?

Hillary Clinton’s idea of transforming America back to the ‘90s is baloney. I am not interested in going back to the ‘90s. Her current statement regarding NAFTA underscores the reason why I can’t trust her on any issue.

FYI: Hillary Clinton is a protectionist and anti-free trade.

@tofun - The best thing for the republicans would be Madame President. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a republican majority, a gridlocked government, and 8 more years of partisan bickering.

Here is a good you tube video regarding Hillary Clinton's tactics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-HkVcMOSw

The Clintons are too polarizing and cannot be trusted

Obama doesn't NEED to change the conversation.  He went on from the debate to Texas and had a crowd of over 3000 people.  People come out to see, shake his hand and support him.  Then he went to Iowa for other largely attended events where he had continues interruptions with standing ovations.  This was over the weekend. He is feeling the love and your interpretation about him sweating is mistaken.  Why do you bash him in such a way. Your analysis leaves much to be desired and is very biased.
RAH, Washington


Rah...note they didn't bother to mention the crowd in Austin or the crowds in the other events he attended, with huge crowds.   The only thing was with that one woman..and then MSNBC and Fiest Read cut and pasted the exchange. Nor did they highlight (with a link..like they did for Hillary) the UAW endorsement.

More on Hillary Clinton....Why every democrats should be scared of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LWcH2aOT8&feature=related

Watch Obama's answer to the 63 yo Iowa women who seems to have more of a grasp on the issue of illegal immigration than Obama. He doesn't seem to understand the danger of illegal immigrants (DESPITE HIS EXPERTISE ON THE SUBJECT "ha") Expect that the Dems want the illegal votes.

Obama does NOT LIKE BEING CHALLENGED, Dont' we have a president like that now.

John Edwards gets our vote.

"I know something bad about you but I'm not telling you what it is!!! Nanny-nanny-boo-boo!", says Novak. "Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!", says Obama. "Hahaha, we tricked you poopy head!!!", says Clinton.

Is this kindergarten or a presidential primary? I get confused sometimes.

If Clinton had nothing to do with it, why didn't they come out the minute it hit the papers...why did Obama have to ask them to disavow the information.

They have been known to leak theings to Drudge, I am sure Novak is no different.

I am sure they wish this would go away..it only reminds people how sleazy they can be.  They thought they would be able to leak this like they do everything else....GOT CAUGHT

Axelrod probably planted so Obama could come out with his statement, play the victim, and blame Clinton, and play up his "different" (i.e. soft) kind of politics.

Obama is a fraud.

Why on earth would a presidential canidate respond to 'rumours'

inexperience, naivity, stupidity, panic
take your choice.
it was a bad move on  Barak's part.

who is fooled by this..if hilary was not so far ahead in the polls...this juicy tidbit would be put out there somehow..just the hint of a scandal may keep obamas numbers down without her hands getting dirty...its ashame democrats are rallying behind her when they had a chance to elect a true patriot like john kerry...rudy is looking better and better every day

This exchange alone tells me the possibility of Obama winning the nomination. If he can debate Republican on these issues of Terrorism and Illegal Immigration, I sincerely believe he can win the nomination. Terrorism should not be linked to immigration phobia.

He held his ground and explained the difference to un-informed voter. I am very sure undecided republican are paying attention to the exchange. A man of principle and conviction is worth my vote.

Obama’08

Axelrod probably planted so Obama could come out with his statement, play the victim, and blame Clinton, and play up his "different" (i.e. soft) kind of politics.

Obama is a fraud.
DickieFlatts, Charlotte, NC (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 10:05 AM)

Seriously? I understand your anger about Clinton's planted questioner, but to suggest that Obama would pull the exact same scam shows both a lack of creativity on your part and an inability to find flaws within your own candidate.

No more Drama! Vote Obama!

With the Ice Caps melting, and polar bears dying, HRoboClinton wants to "turn up the heat". How detached and mindless is that slogan. Asbestos pantsuits, give me a break. Both Diamonds and Pearls, what a greedy petty little girl. Greed got us into the mess we're in now. These pro HRoboClinton puff pieces make me even more sick of the LapDog Media.

No More Drama! Vote Obama!

Gee, right wing nut cake Bob Novak prints some anti Obama material and sets off a fight between Hillary and Obama supporters.  WHo does that benefit?  Less attacking each other and more focus on issues and the Republicans lack of leadership would be useful.

Obama was right to come back forcefully at the hint of baseless rumors so he does not get swiftboated, but keep your fire in the right direction - at Novak and the Republicans.  

WHoever wins the democratic nomination is going to be a whole lot better than the present crew or any of the GOP pretenders to the throne.  So lets make it so a Democrat wins and thus save the Supreme Court and the executive branch. Stay focused - If Hillary wins the nomination, Hillary haters will still need to support her so we can gain the levers of power.

Axelrod probably planted so Obama could come out with his statement, play the victim, and blame Clinton, and play up his "different" (i.e. soft) kind of politics.

Obama is a fraud.
DickieFlatts, Charlotte, NC

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I guess you and Hillary Clinton are both fraud. The Clinton machine will do anything to get elected. The Clintons are bad for America.

We all know what Clinton's campaign have been doing in the last 6 months. Leak a story to drudge report regarding Obama, Plant the Gay controversy and they even went further to spread madrasa rumor that are baseless.

I have convinced 3 people over the weekend to vote against Hillary if she becomes the nominee. Here is one of the comments i got over the weekend regarding Hillary Clinton “…She looks like a witch that is power drunk".

Too bad Novak and the others who outted Valerie Plame and ruined (and possibly got tortured and killed) her assets in Iraq and Iran and ruined a brilliant career, wasn't convicted of treason, as should have happened, and summarily shot.

Hillary's supporters must not know their candidate very well. Novak clearly stated that although he didn't get the info directly from Hillary's camp, that the "tip" about Obama is being circulted by them.

The Clinton's are clearly up to no good. If they had something, they would never NOT circulate it out of the good of their hearts. Even if they have nothing on Obama, they are dropping innuendo into the press to tarnish him through the power of "suggestion."

Obama was right to hit them hard with his response.

Why on earth would a presidential canidate respond to 'rumours'

inexperience, naivity, stupidity, panic
take your choice.
it was a bad move on  Barak's part.

Tofun,Disney (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 10:06 AM)

You are right. Why would any presidential candidate respond to rumors? I mean, it is only their reputation with the voters at stake here. No big deal.

"Psst, Obama is a Muslim and wants to blow up the whole world. Pass it on."
"Psst, Clinton draws and quarters Asian immigrants until they give her money. Pass it on."

Psst, you are ignorant. And since I am a nice guy, feel free to try to refute that rumor. We'll give you a free pass this time.

WHoever wins the democratic nomination is going to be a whole lot better than the present crew or any of the GOP pretenders to the throne.  So lets make it so a Democrat wins and thus save the Supreme Court and the executive branch. Stay focused - If Hillary wins the nomination, Hillary haters will still need to support her so we can gain the levers of power.
Rob Boston (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 10:17 AM)


Rob...its tatics like the smear campaign that makes so many Democrats say they WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER.  Notice they had to almost force Edwards to say if she won he would...do you think he really will?  Or for that matter his supporters or Obama's

BTW it wouldn't surprise me if she was behind the push polling on Edwards

If you can't actually find a scandel on your opponent, claim that you do.  You don't ever have to come out with what it is, but the thought that it's there will hurt him or her--genius.  I'm certainly not going to accuse the Clinton camp and there is no evidence to do so at this time.  I believe Novak that it wasn't the Republicans.  My guess, and far from fact, is that it was some over-zealous Clinton supporter, we have a few of those on this blog.  It is, however, important to nip these kinds of stories in the bud like Obama did.

I will say this though, if Obama is going to bring us to a new style of politics, why didn't he contact Clinton privately so they could BOTH come out strongly and quickly against this rumor.  But tensions are high between both campaigns and I don't think that either of them really like each other, respect sure, but I doubt like.

The latest USA Today Gallup Poll of all registered voters:

Clinton (52% favorable, 45% unfavorable, +7 pts)
Obama (53% favorable, 30% unfavorable, +23 pts)
Edwards (50% favorable, 31% unfavorable, +19 pts)


Gee, fellow democrats, which of these ones doesn't look like the others.  Get a clue!  Hillary is not electable in the general election.  Not only will you Hillary supporters cost us the presidency, all of those Republicans that would stay home on voting day because of anger with their own party would now be energized to show up at the voting booth.  You don't think that will cost Democrats in other positions at both a local and national level?

Edwards/Obama or Obama/Edwards '08

tom, "tatics like the smear campaign"

what smear campgaign?

You believe Novak, the gop operative, everything is a conspircy against poor mr. Obama?

geez, Novak is trying to make certaint that HRC is not the nominee... BO is a weak canidate who will not be elected president.
The GOP want him to have the nomination.

you need to remember that HRC has worked for the thiings democrats support- national health care, family leave,civil rights protection,

Obama? he only talks about it.
talk will NOT get it done.
He'll be run over by the GOP machiine.... hell, you don't even believe he can handle the HRC machine because he's so weak, He can't even handle the Edwards machine.

Illinois - Undocumented Immigrants can't vote...so I highly doubt that any candidate is trying to appeal to them anyway.  They have no say, no voice, and no political strength.  If any candidate is in support of any pro-immigration legislation it is because some CITIZENS of the United States are in support of it, because only citizens can vote.  We should stop being afraid of the other and finally start working toward a better USA.  

Obama '08!

If you cannot find an actual scandel on an opponent, make up that you do.  That way, you can smear his or her credibility without revealing anything, especially when you don't have anything to reveal--genius.  I'm certainly not going to accuse the Clinton camp of any wrong-doing.  Spreading such a rumor is definitely not above their tactics, but there is no evidence, little for them to gain, and everything for them to lose.  I believe Novak when he said it was from democratic sources.  I think, therefore, that it seems likely that it was some over-zealous Clinton supporters, which we have a few of those on this blog.

If Barack is running a new campaign that highlights him as a unifier, why didn't he call Clinton personally first so they could BOTH come out quickly and strongly against the rumor?  But tensions are high between the Clinton and Obama campaigns, and I seriously doubt they like each other, respect sure, but probably not like.

Why is Ok for Romney to come out forcefully against push polls targeting his faith and they don't know who did it.  But not for Obama to respond when people try to smear him by suggestion.

Oh is it because the target might be Hillary?  Why didn't the Clinton campaign go after Novak and demand to know who is using their name fasely?  Instead they attack Obama.  Because they know they are doing it.

They just didn't expect to get caught.  Their style has always been to circulate backroom dirt ie Hillaryis44 website.

This is why so many people despise this woman

Bee,

What did Bill Clinton do?

How about 23 milion new jobs, 100,000 extra police on the streets. Peace and prosperity, welfare reform and don't forget a surplus in the budget.  

You Obama and Edwards supporters are now making it so people can't remember what a good president is like.   You guys act like Bill Clinton was not one of the best Presidents this country has ever had.  Yes, Nafta was bad, but as a whole, his presidency was very good.  No one president is going to be favored by 100% of the people, but just ask yourself why he had a 75% approval rating when they were trying to impeach him.  

Anyone who thinks Hillary is going to come in and be directly opposite of what Bill was, is an idiot.  Get a grip Democrats.  The minute you say Bill Clinton didn't do anything for this country, the more you play into the Republican smear playbook.  Vote for Hillary in 08' or whoever wins the the democratic primary.  

New Jersey - "Illinois - Undocumented Immigrants can't vote...so I highly doubt that any candidate is trying to appeal to them anyway.  They have no say, no voice, and no political strength."


You must be new here. Not this blog, but to this country. The conventional wisdom is that hispanic-american vote is hinged on how well the candidates cozy up to them. That's why you saw that ridiculous Immigration Reform bill that was nothing more then amnesty for illegals.

Both parties are selling out this country for your vote.

To Ki, Lyn, and Bee:
Obama, NOT HILLARY, is the one who used NEO-CON rhetoric from the 1990's to attack a fellow Democrat.
We don't need people trying to win the nomination of OUR party, who imitate and parrot the tactics of the Republican Party during the last decade. We should be above that sort of thing.
Unfortunately, now we'll have to endure mud slinging from both in and outside of The Democratic Party, thanks to 'Lil' Barracky. (If Hillary does it back you can't blame her, she didn't start it.)
You're using too many emotions and to much rhetoric in your arguments, and you're not looking at the facts.
I am very sorry to say that Social Conservatives, and most of The South, and The Mid-West will not vote for Barrack Obama. He will cost us the election.
To begin with, he doesn't have the experience. A few years in a state legislature, and two in the U.S. Senate do not constitute the kind of "gravitas" necessary to be The President of The United States.
Secondly, he isn't a very good campaigner. He has stumbled all over himself, and fumbled over his own words SEVERAL times during these debates. Blitzer made him look stupid TWICE last week. Granted. Hillary had a less than stellar performace two weeks ago. But, it was the first time she didn't do well, and she quickly recoverd. Obama doesn't seem to have that ability.
Thirdly, Obama would LOSE on the issue of driver's licenses for illegal aliens alone. A subject HE brought nationwide attention to, by breaking Hillary's chops about the way she answered a question.
65% of the country is against it. He isn't going to convince 65% to change their minds.
Furthermore, I get the sense that Obama and his supporters are divisive.
That is to say, that they will accuse Hillary of anything, sling mud, and bring up Republican rhetoric from the 1990's just to get the nomination.
They really don't care if a Democrat wins the White House or not, or if the Republicans retain it and heep MORE tyranny on The American People. He and they are only worried about themselves.
I cannot, and will not be held hostage to vote for someone like that.
And finally, with reference to any scandal information that the media might have; nobody needs to look any further than The land deal between Obama and Atoin Rezko. The latter was indicted on political recketeering-like charges and he is a long-time friend of Obama's. If that is a secret, it's only because the main stream media has given him a pass on it up until now.

Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 10:43 AM)

I agree that Bill was an overall good President, but what does that have to do with Hillary? She is the one running for President, not Bill. The fact that they are married doesn't have any bearing on how she would lead.

"Anyone who thinks Hillary is going to come in and be directly opposite of what Bill was, is an idiot."

None of the Democrats running would come in and do the opposite of what Bill did, except maybe Kucinich. He did see a UFO, you know.

From Tofun

Why on earth would a presidential canidate respond to 'rumours'

inexperience, naivity, stupidity, panic
take your choice.
it was a bad move on  Barak's part.

Swiftboat Liars

A new poll from Minnesota has both Democrats very strong in the general election, but Clinton runs a bit better, as Obama even loses one of its match-ups (against McCain). Link:  http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/democrats-strong-in-minnesota-and.html

This is all so stupid.  Why do we as voters settle for this nonsense?  Shouldn't we demand more from our politicians?  Instead of worrying about planted questions and blind items, shouldn't the media and voters focus more on REAL news, like what to do about Pakistan, Chinese product safety, and the subprime housing crisis?  Wouldn't it be nice if voters and the media asked them about those issues instead of this tabloid nonsense?

You can read more here:

http://www.theseventen.com/2007/11/lame-political-discourse-part-2.html

I agree that Hillary could hurt down ticket candidates in purple and red states. SO point that out and try to beat her in the primaries with an unelectability argument/hurts the party argument.  But don't credit Novak with trying to help anyone except Republicans (just ask Valerie Plame).

BUT if Hillary is the nominee we have to rally around her.   Or perhaps you can let me know which Republican you prefer to her?

@tofun - Gee, let's go ask John McCain, Al Gore, John Kerry, and all the others who have been swiftboated in the past 8 years. Obama is the only democratic candidate who can both win the general election, keep the democrats in the majority, and end the partisanship.

Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY,
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Bill Clinton engineered 23 million new jobs by creating NAFTA, which I am okay with. Shall we say George Bush economy engineer the same number of jobs even though they pay less money? For Hillary to denounce the greatest achievement of her husband in a minute, it sounds like a "pandering" to me.

Why should I trust her, now? I guess the election year is around the corner and politician like Hillary will say anything to get elected.

By the way, Fox news is better than Clinton News Network. Did i tell you i cancelled my CNN subscription from my cable company? I told them to scramble it because of their bias reporting.

New Jersey, Illegal imigrants can not legally vote.. but then again neither can dead people!!!!

Stopwatching, what was the unemployment rate in the 90s?

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY,

Why should i believe you? You are not an honest broker in this case. She is a senator from NY and i don't expect to hear the truth from you nor Clinton's machine.

Another conflict of interest..

Daniel, NY,

Since you like pushing polls on us. How about the real poll?

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=2d211d2a-ee13-40ab-8455-5a70b9b55bfe

Bob Novak - America hater.

Anthony Palmer

I agree with you--this is all a bunch of nonsense that takes attention away from the real issues that face our country.  If more of us let the politicians know that we wanted substance instead of tabloid fodder, perhaps things would change. As long as this type of thing "sells" were stuck with it.

Anthony Palmer

I agree with you--this is all a bunch of nonsense that takes attention away from the real issues that face our country.  If more of us let the politicians know that we wanted substance instead of tabloid fodder, perhaps things would change. As long as this type of thing "sells" were stuck with it.

Bee,

What did Bill Clinton do?

How about 23 milion new jobs, 100,000 extra police on the streets. Peace and prosperity, welfare reform and don't forget a surplus in the budget.  

You Obama and Edwards supporters are now making it so people can't remember what a good president is like.   You guys act like Bill Clinton was not one of the best Presidents this country has ever had.  Yes, Nafta was bad, but as a whole, his presidency was very good.  No one president is going to be favored by 100% of the people, but just ask yourself why he had a 75% approval rating when they were trying to impeach him.  

Anyone who thinks Hillary is going to come in and be directly opposite of what Bill was, is an idiot.  Get a grip Democrats.  The minute you say Bill Clinton didn't do anything for this country, the more you play into the Republican smear playbook.  Vote for Hillary in 08' or whoever wins the the democratic primary.  
Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 10:43 AM)


Bee is a republican, running shit scared of Hillary. Poor soul thinks it's end of the world once Hillary comes to power as a Republican.

She/he is trying hard to ensure Obama becomes the nominee so Rudy and Karl can sweep him aside. So he/she wastes all day talking non-value added stuff on an internet blog.

Only a Republican dislikes Bill Clinton like the way Bee types:-)

Bee, I have convinced four sane republicans to vote for Hillary just this weekend. Touch the ground, Bee, its a different world out there.

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