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Clinton and the trust issue

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:55 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Domenico Montanaro and Lauren Appelbaum
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went up with a new health care ad in Iowa and New Hampshire over the weekend, featuring a man who says he asked for Clinton's help when his insurance company would not cover a bone marrow transplant for his son. She came through, he says, and adds, "Now her opponents are saying that Hillary can't be trusted? I trusted this woman to save my son's life. And she did."

Interesting that the campaign would choose, in a 30-second ad, to bring up Clinton's trustworthiness. In our most recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, Clinton received some of her worst scores on the question of whether she is "honest and straightforward." Among all voters, only 34% gave her good scores on the topic; 39% rated her poorly. Among Democrats, 49% gave her good scores, compared to 20% who did not.

But compare those numbers to her leading rivals. Among all voters, 51% said Obama's "honest and straightfoward," 17% did not. Among Democrats, his numbers spike: 75% gave him good scores versus just 10% who did not.

*** UPDATE *** This, in fact, is not the first time Ward has appeared in an ad for Clinton. He was one of four men who appeared in a 2006 ad during her Senate run called “Standing Up for New York.”

Per New York Times: “Clips of four men praising the senator for bringing money, jobs and services to constituents. ...Joseph Ward, a father in Lisbon, N.Y., says that when his son needed a bone marrow transplant, Mrs. Clinton’s office assured him that the hospital would help absorb the cost.

"SCORECARD: This is Mrs. Clinton’s first ad in her 2006 Senate race, and it is characteristically on message, focusing on her work for New York without any allusion to a possible presidential bid. But the subtext -- that she can win over skeptics -- is one that could be applied in a presidential race. And there is no mention of the Iraq war, which Mrs. Clinton voted to authorize, a subject that has become increasingly problematic for candidates across the board."

Hat tip to reader “modernwoman, Anytown,USA” for remembering that Ward was in an earlier ad. And to Ben Smith at The Politico for the video.

Here’s the transcript: "Joe Ward"
Joseph Ward [piano music in background]: Let me tell you a little story. My son Joel had a terrible illness. He needed a bone marrow transplant. But our insurance wouldn't cover, and we couldn't afford. We called Senator Clinton and asked for help. Her office called the next day letting us know the hospital was going to absorb the cost of the transplant. Now her opponents are saying that Hillary can't be trusted? I trusted this woman to save my son's life. And she did.

CLINTON: I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

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Clinton must address trustworthiness now or it will be there for the GOP to use next Fall.  The Primary season needs to accomplish 2 things; 1) snag the nomination 2) innocculate against the mud that will be thrown in the general campaign.  A good candidate is one that's been tested in the primaries.
I fully trust Hillary as my president.
I saw the Ad in NH but I don't trust it a bit because Clinton doesn't have a credibility to back the story up.

It just another story to get her elected, she will do anything to win election. She is preying on a desperate person to shore up her support among men.

Sorry Madame Clinton, it ain't gonna work.
NONE OF THEM CAN BE TRUSTED. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

THEY NEED TO QUIT BASHING EACH OTHER AND TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW THEY PLAN TO TURN THE COUNTRY AROUND.
I remember something very similar to this during Hillary's Senate run in NY.  I am certain it was the same guy.

The Show goes on.........

Personally, I think we should ask a few more New Yorkers just exactly HOW much THEY trust Hillary!
How will the "Novak affair" play into this? Bob Novak just appeared on Fox News to stand by his story that Clinton had some dirt on Obama and give more details: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/delving-into-novak-affair.html
You have to be smoking pipe for you to trust Hillary Clinton. She is the biggest fraud ever.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/wsjnbcpoll20071108.pdf

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national-primary.html

Don't let these cage-keepers control the flow of information, look at the internals of their poll and ALL of the most recent polls, yourself.


Van
Bee, poor soul, nothing in life except hatred and lies.

Ever lived a life outside Faux News and Republican brown nosing, Bee?
I trust Hillary will be the next President. hillaryclinton.com
American consumer's are NOT buying what you're selling, Hillary!!!!!
why not show the figures on who would be a stronger leader..

obama comes in 3 amoung dems
It's come back again, lookie here. hillaryclinton
Van:

You weren't that guy who was proclaiming John Kerry as president on MSNBC back in 2004 was you?  He had all sorts of polls and was just all going wild for Kerry.

He sort of disappeared after 11 pm eastern that night...

One person and the hospital thought it would be good business and good karma for the hospital to eat the cost.  Let's see them do a three hour prime time special and have all these so-called great stories come out about Hillary....
Hillary CAN'T be trusted.  The man in the ad didn't "trust" Hillary, he HOPED Hillary could do something.  Hillary has failure written all over her health care fiasco of the 90s, but oh wait, Bill said the failure was -HIS- fault! Yeah, right Bill.  His excuse "the Republicans were on a vote against Bill" phase.  Well guess what, trust or not, the Republicans are going to be in a "vote against Hillary" phase.

How can you "trust her" on social security, when she has no social security plan?  
How can you "trust her" on Iraq, when she has no Iraq pullout plan?
How can you "trust her" on Iran, when her diplomacy of not talking to foreign leaders is exactly the same as the current administration's diplomacy practices?
How can you "trust her" to form bipartisan committees, her answer to all the hard questions, when her campaign slogan is to "turn up the heat" on Republicans, and each and every day, she slings mud into Republicans eyes.  How can we trust her to be get ANYTHING done that way?
After that so called debate and the smear job this past weekend, what do you expect.  of course she is not trustworthy.  On top of it, she is a clinton.
Obama is honorable and trustworthy.  And has class unlike Hillary.
She is just a corrupt pol like Bill
Obama is of a new breed like Governors Patrick and Kaine and ex-gov Warner.
Hillary got caught in this one:

Novak speaks out about Clinton Smear attempt

http://thepage.time.com/

Says on “Fox and Friends” Monday he trusts his sources, Clinton’s handling of it reminds him of Nixon. Watch it above.
When have you ever been able to trust the Clintons?
John Doe, Chicago is right. When their best shot is to shoot at their opponent, it leaves me convinced they are as shallow as a cup of water in an empty Olympic sized pool.
How can women especially trust a woman who not only stayed with a straying spouse, but attempted to castigate the women with whom he'd had affair? I find that notion unusual. The answer seems to be that President Clinton was used as a vehicle for his wife's own political ambitions. How else could she have publicly taken such ongoing humiliation? No. I do not trust her. Such personalities will  commit any deed to reach desired ends. Senator Obama should be very careful, observant, and diligent. Her campaign is likely to become quite lethal. He is to be commended for responding  quickly to the Novak issue.
why not show the figures on who would do the best in the general election against ANY of the Repub nominees?

Obama comes in at #1
the undeniable fact remains hillary had the insurance and pharmaceutical companies write her healthcare plan, who do you think it favors?

edwards has a healthcare plan that works for everyone, can be paid for, and is geared toward the consumer, if you don't believe me look at it yourself, it is by far the best plan.
After Dubya, I'd say the only people who will 'Trust' any politician of any Party, will be the most radical of their followers.  Like Reagan said to Frank Sinatra...I mean, Mikhail Gorbachev, "Verify."
Bob Novak compares Hillary's tactics to those of Nixon (against McGovern in 1972).  LMAO.  I'm wondering when the 'break-in' will occur.  Thanks for the link Daniel.
Obama '08
Bee, poor soul, nothing in life except hatred and lies.

Ever lived a life outside Faux News and Republican brown nosing, Bee?

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Perhaps, i should pose the same question to you. How about "Ever lived a life outside Hillary Clinton lies"?
Now here is a poll you won't see the Clinton folks tacking up on the board...
Now here is a poll you won't see the Clinton folks tacking up on the board...
Bob Novak appeared on Fox News to stand by his sources and repeat that the Clinton campaign was spread rumors that it had damaging information without saying what it was, comparing the tactic to Richard Nixon saying that he knew of communists supporting McGovern but that he would not say who because it would not be right

Novak speaks out about Clinton Smear attempt

http://thepage.time.com/

Says on “Fox and Friends” Monday he trusts his sources, Clinton’s handling of it reminds him of Nixon. Watch it above.
I just don't understand the attraction for people to be backing HIllary.  Her husband was -arguably - a good president, but she is no Bill Clinton.
Trust Senator Clinton  - you cant be serious?!
I trust she will do and/or say what ever it takes to gain the top political job in the country. I trust she will use all the political tactics in the book to derail Obama. I trust she will say what ever any one wants to hear as long as you vote for her. But i also believe the country will again be in a deadlock that she cannot break trough... so more years of a divided nation is what we will have. so sure trust Senator Clinton and only in the end will we all say If I knew then what I know now. Thats the feeling I get when I listen to her Q and A session and speeches . Funny.... I dont get that feeling when Senator Obama speaks I actullay feel pretty good after one of his speeches and Q & A sessions. Think about it.... GO Obama!!!
Does Hillary think she's the only Senator to intervene and help a constituent? It's her job!
Don't turst THIS:

'I fully trust Hillary as my president.
Sierra, SF ...'

This Clinton Cultists are at it again....

Put me down with the OVER 20% of Democrats who DON'T TRUST 'Slick Hilly' or 'Slick Willy'  !!

Hillary Clinton is as CROOKED as the day is long...
A Republican in Democratic disguise !

Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandals and divisiveness
Perhaps, i should pose the same question to you. How about "Ever lived a life outside Hillary Clinton lies"?
Bee (Sent Monday, November 19, 2007 12:00 PM)

of course, i lived a life with your beloved George Bush's lies:-). In fact, he returned me money for the extra tax I had paid. I am glad he ensured that any money i earned over 100K is not touched.

George Bush gave me more money. But too bad i dont love him like you do, Bee:-)
Novak surfaces out of the black lagoon to say that Clinton "knows something" about Obama but won't reveal it.  This sounds like something out of the playbook of Novak's close friend Karl Rove.  At minimum suspicion is thrown on Obama without having to say or prove anything.  Ideally it damages HRC also, since Novak implies that Clinton is playing dirty politics, again without actually saying or proving anything.  And if ANYTHING that can be spun negatively, real or imginary comes up later the whole thing is resurrected again for bonus points.  And the anonymity of the sleazy source remains protected.  Novak is a scumbag and deserves to be treated with scorn.
Wow, even a Clinton supporter on this board faked a message from a non-Clinton supporter.  Not only is lying and deception pervasive INSIDE the Clinton campaign, their supporters are adopting deceptive and disgusting tactics as well.
Thank you George Bush!  Thank you for being such a inept and ignorant leader.  I doubt that the Republican party can stop Hillary, thanks to you GW.  I am in the middle class, Hillary will fight for me just like Bill did when he was in office.
I don't trust Hillary at all!!!
Based on these "trust" numbers alone...who do you think the American people will believe.  Obama or Hillary.  This validates everything everyone believes about her...aand they were hoping people would forget

Oh Yeh...they want this to "GO AWAY".  And the MSM is trying to help...but it won't go away.
Ron...
This happens here every day.
Ron...
This happens here every day.
I am literally cracking up as I am reading some of this stuff.  Hillary does well so the debate is "so-called" but if Hillary does poorly the debate is excellent, the moderators were right on, etc.  

The double standards are outstanding.  Truly.
Fellow Dems, if we put Hillary out there as our candidate we are setting ourselves up for another defeat. She is the single most motivating and unifying factor for Republican and conservative independents. They would vote for anyone to prevent another Clinton in the white house. If by some miracle she does win the presidency, what do we have? Another 4 years of acrimony and partisan bickering. Plus what is she planning to accomplish? She is pure system. Status quo is the ultimate goal. That is why she has so many corporate sponsors. They know she has no intention of rocking the boat.

I am a loyal Dem but will be extremely frustrated if we miss this chance. Obama is our best hope to throw the Republicans off their game and take back the country. For once, we will have a president that is not polluted by corruption and raw, self-serving ambition.

PS, I can't believe anyone thinks Novak dreamed this up by himself. He is a political parasite who will attach himself to the most convenient and rewarding host. It's certainly not beneath the Clinton camp to use someone like Novak to do their dirty work and it makes perfect sense to do it now when they realize Obama is fast closing in Iowa. Just curious, do the Hillary fans support tactics like this?
Honest men and women don't beg for people to trust them. Their words and deeds lead people to trust them. This is clearly not the case here.

This is like say ing, Eh! i helped a hobo find a home two weeks ago so i can be trusted to lead this country. Or Oh! trust me because i am a woman and i have all the connections to twist arms around the country.

What a joke!
Simon, Iowa,

Who in his right mind we love George Bush? I am tired of Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush? I don't want another Clinton, period.

The more I think about all the candidates the more I am more likely to make a case against another Clinton.

No more Scandals, dynasty, lies e.t.c.

By the way, there is one common factor between George Bush and Hillary Clinton - they are both liars.

Bush lie on WMD, Hillary lie on NAFTA, Iran and Iraq’s vote. At least we both agree on something …Both George Bush and Hillary Clinton are liars.

Anything else?
That is great Senator Clinton.  You can continue providing individual influence to help one person. We need a president who can provide this to All Americans.  As a new yorker we are privelaged to have you as our senator and we should continue to have you as our senator.  
Honest men and women don't beg for people to trust them. Their words and deeds lead people to trust them. This is clearly not the case here.

This is like say ing, Eh! i helped a hobo find a home two weeks ago so i can be trusted to lead this country. Or Oh! trust me because i am a woman and i have all the connections to twist arms around the country.

What a joke!
Will all of you who are bashing Sen. Hilary Clinton leave her alone.  Her husband was an excellent President and I think she'll make a fantastic one also.
Anyone who has to try to convince you they are trustworthy can't be trusted.

Here is an interesting article on Madam Clinton and her so called experience.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/19/opinion/main3521300.shtml
I am voting for hillary!


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