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Obama's education rollout

Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:38 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/National Journal’s Aswini Anburajan
Obama unveiled an ambitious $18 billion plan to expand public education from
pre-school through 12th grade while at Central High School in Manchester, New Hampshire this morning.

Calling education "the currency of the Information Age," Obama stressed the need for expanding public programs to help American competitiveness with other nations. He said that a child in Boston now needs the training to compete with the kids getting an equal or better education in Bangalore or Beijing.

"In this kind of economy, countries who out-educate us today will out-compete us tomorrow,” Obama said. “Already, China is graduating eight times as many engineers as we are. By 12th grade, our children score lower on math and science tests than most other kids in the world."

Obama criticized No Child Left Behind, saying that educating America's children shouldn't involve teaching them how to "fill in bubbles." He also used the unpopular education bill to take a dig at the records of both Clinton and Edwards.

"It's pretty popular to bash No Child Left Behind on the campaign trail,” Obama said, “but when it was being debated four years ago, my colleague Dick Durbin offered everyone a chance to vote so the law couldn't be enforced until it was fully funded. Senator Edwards and Senator Clinton passed on that chance, and I believe it was a serious mistake.”

Obama's education plan calls for: (1) full funding for educational programs from birth to 5 years old; (2) increasing the number of teachers through scholarships and incentive grants for taking challenging assignments; (3) prioritizing math and science education; and (4) focusing on parental responsibility in education.

The focus of Obama's education policy is on birth to 5, years Obama said were pivotal in children's development. The investment he added would be paid back to society 10-fold. His plan sets the goal for universal pre-school, but does not provide require parents to enroll their kids in it. 

"And for every dollar we invest in early childhood education,” Obama said, “we get $10 back in reduced welfare rolls, lower healthcare costs and less crime.”

He cited his record in the Illinois Senate, where he said that he started the Early Learning Council, to point to how early education programs could be successfully implemented.

In order to address the current teacher shortage, Obama said that he would create a national teacher service corps, which would provide $25,000 scholarships to encourage undergraduates to become teachers. He also called for "professionalizing" teaching, creating a career ladder that would allow teachers to pass national assessment tests and reward teachers who perform well.  

Aides to the senator, however, quickly disputed that this is “merit pay,” which they say simply ties compensation to how students perform on a standardized test. Obama has in the past called for performance-based pay -- most notably while at the National Education Association’s annual conference.

The Obama plan, though, does provide a "differentiated compensation system," which would reward teachers for undergoing additional training, for demonstrated learning gains by students, and for showing expertise and leadership. It would also allow teachers to take a role in deciding how to design their compensation at the local level.

Policy aides also disagreed with the idea that this plan was a significant expansion of the role of federal government in public education, saying the investment was in line with the current role that federal government plays in enhancing and supporting states' roles in providing public education. Instead, they pointed to Obama's call for parental involvement in education as a sign of his commitment that education must rely on partnership between parents and public educators.

Though Obama called for a renewed investment in math and science education, his plan would actually pull money from the federal government's greatest investments and achievements in math and science. Obama would delay funding for the NASA Constellation program for five years, though he would maintain the $500 million in funding the program would receive for its manufacturing and technology base, in order to help fund his education policy. The campaign did not say how much money delaying the program would provide. 

The plan would also be paid for through the auctioning off of surplus public land, closing the CEO pay deductibility loophole, reduce costs of standardized procurement and through the some of the money that would be saved by ending the war in Iraq. 

This is the third significant domestic policy Obama has unveiled in the past two weeks. Earlier this month, under the umbrella of a middle-class agenda, Obama unveiled tax-savings plans, day care and child care credits and the expansion of the Family and Medical Leave Act. In Iowa yesterday, Obama touted his commitment to community colleges and called for grants to expand their reach.

*** UPDATE *** The Edwards campaign responds: "In the days before Thanksgiving, we are grateful for the existence of actual facts. In his rush to criticize others, Senator Obama left out the inconvenient fact that he supported No Child Left Behind as an Illinois state senator before he opposed it as a presidential candidate. It's not 'a new kind of politics' to try to have it both ways. When John Edwards is president, he will make sure that every school in America has the resources it needs to give its students a world-class education."

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As a Hillary supporter, I will back anyone, which I believe to be any Democrat, that will take on education for our inner cities.  Obama's plan seems similar to everyone else on the Democrat side. I would much rather see the candidates spelling out what they will do than bashing other democrats.  Everyone of the candidates has flipped flopped on a number of issues, so bashing each other just helps the republicans.  Vote Hillary in 08' or any Democrat.
Class Warrior, in his above post, although vitriolic, is absolutely correct.  It used to be the Catholic Church did not let anyone learn to read but the clergy, that way they could control all of the ideas that the populace had and keep themselves in power over the governments and kings of the time.  Today it is not that much different, those that have power try to do all they can to keep the general public from getting fully educated so that they are more compliant, so that they don't get any ideas that aren't put there by the powers that be.  If you are educated then you can see right through all of their hypocritical double-think designed to confuse and confound true justice in this nation.  To be truly effective in this world one MUST be well educated.  That is one of the reasons that many places in the world are now becoming better places to live than the US. Yes, we are still the top as far as riches in the public sector, but look at the disparity between rich and poor here, the rich are getting tax cuts worth as much as most lower income people make in 10 years, each!!   The rest of the world has recognized that in order to compete with the US that they must educate their citizenry better than we do, and they succeed, which is part of what is fueling the changes in attitude amongst our 'client nations' and the world in general.  South America, on the whole, has gotten beyond letting the US control them, as they see that we are trying to keep them dumb and pliable, how better to offset this than by educating the populace....and it is working, for them.  So many countries used to send massive numbers of students to the US to study, figuring that we had the very best in education, well, not so much anymore, all of that expertise has been offset by those countries spending more on education in their own countries, and keeping their money at home, and turning out better educated citizens to boot.  If we really want to stay the best place in the world to live, if we truly want to stay a developed nation, then we MUST spend more on education than we do on defense.  Anything less is sure to lead us down the road to being a second world nation, behind China and India and South America.
My wife is a teacher...and most of the schools that don't get large community donations are often underfunded. She has to spend hundreds of dollars of her own money on materials every year. Tax deductible but still...it's an immediate expense. No Child Left behind has been counterproductive...certain areas of the semester are spent preparing the kids for tests rather than actually educating them in fundamentals.
Squintz:

I never said math and science were not important.  I disagreed with the post that said this:

"Today's wealthy are people of business and trade - professions that require extensive math and science. Only with sufficient education in those subjects can a person join a social class with sufficient leisure to study philosophy and the arts. "

It is not true that only with a math and science background can one become wealthy or a member of the upper class.  It's not even remotely true.  Forget about education.  I have one name for you:  Lebron James.  High school education.  Makes more money than he could ever spend in a dozen lifetimes.  
My fellow citizen Harry from California, regards to your comment, r u saying it's not appropriate to cut some NASA budget for education reinforcement proposed by Sen. Obama or r u saying it's better to feed more money to NASA rather than using some of the budget to buttress education weakness in math and science, maybe u r saying spending billions dollars to fly space ship is more a priority educating our kids who are the future of tomorrow strength????.Meanwhile the future of NASA wholly depend on our kids education.
My fellow citizen Harry from California, regards to your comment, r u saying it's not appropriate to cut some NASA budget for education reinforcement proposed by Sen. Obama or r u saying it's better to feed more money to NASA rather than using some of the budget to buttress education weakness in math and science, maybe u r saying spending billions dollars to fly space ship is more a priority educating our kids who are the future of tomorrow strength????.Meanwhile the future of NASA wholly depend on our kids education.
-> I am still waiting for what Senator Clinton
-> is going to say about education....

What ever her aides tell her to say.

-> And what side of the fence she will be on......

Always stradle.

-> And how many days she will hold that position......

Until the polls go negative on her.

-> And how many positions she can have.......

All of them.

-> And the question from the "plant" at the next
-> debate.

Boxers or briefs? No, wait, thats been used. Massengill or Summer's Eve?
Barack, I'm with you on this education plan except for one detail.  PLEASE do not touch NASA!  NASA is already struggling with a super-thin slice of the federal budget, and Project Constellation is necessary to this nation's future as the leader in human spaceflight!  We need programs like Constellation to inspire our younger generations to try to reach for the stars (and get back to the Moon, for one thing), and cutting money from it is not the way to go.  I'm all for your education plan Barack, but find the money to fund it elsewhere, and keep Project Constellation going strong!
Osama Obama wants to cut NASA? Hello? This seems like fuzzy math. I don't think Obama has his head screwed on right. We give six tenths of a percent of the Fed Budget to NASA. Why not cut the sweet heart pension plan of Congress and the house by 80% and put them in our "Social Security/Medicare mess". The difference could go to education and we might actually be able to retire at 65 because they would be forced to fix "the mess".
To: SayItAin'tSo and Harry:

First, NASA is not the primary source of employment for government engineers and scientists - defense spending employs many times more engineers and scientists than NASA does.  Do not fret, there will be plenty of engineering jobs for the children in today's preschool at NASA in twenty or more years time.  Let's first focus on getting them the education that will position themselves for meaningful employment.  Second, NASA will not fall to pieces over a delay of five years for a program.  NASA leaders and personnel have a very long perspective when it comes to funding complex projects.  Third, it is merely a plan - not law - and a point of departure for a national discussion.  The plans may still require compromise, work and fine tuning, but the principles and foundation are well placed.  Personally I have not seen another candidate who comes close to this earnest discussion with the voting public.

At least Obama is willing to demonstrate the courage and conviction to suggest a detailed plan.  

To Disgusted with Obama:  Perhaps you should troll elsewhere.  Your vacuous comments stand in stark contrast to the majority of the well thought-out comments listed above.  

Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Obama!  

Thank you for beginning the conversation about education.

I hope all the candidates will follow. And I hope voters demand the debate.
Once again, we see more of the same.  The real issues are:
1. The need for improved instructional methodologies.
2. The need for improved curriculum content.
3. The need for longer school years.
4. The public should get employable people for the money they spend on education!
5. We need more American children to go to college and graduate school!
6. An end to mandatory attendance.  Schools need to attract students, not incarcerate them.
Supporting NASA is supporting math and science.

Go Constellation! No to Obama!
The answer is simple and direct. Space exploration, with its attendant technology development AND education are both important, so fully fund them both at strong levels. This country is strong enough to do both
I haven't fully decided who I'm in favor of voting for, yet.  But when I do, I will make sure it is a candidate who shows the most promise in improving our compulsory public education system nationwide.  Our nation is in crisis because every one of the problems addressed by our leaders, today, can ultimately be tied in some form to consequences of poor educational standards and enforcement of our children's civil rights to a Free and Appropriate Education: crime, warfare, international policy rifts, economic crisis, welfare, poverty, family instability and amorality.  We have many leaders, today, who lack the insight, innovation, and concern for the common good borne more successfully of a solid education that includes not only the basics of math, science and literacy, but is also balanced with philosophy, social sciences, physical education, the arts, global awareness, and the importance of service to others in our communities.  It far cheaper to proactively "fix" these problems with preventative measures that include stronger policies and financial support of quality education in our country, than by reacting to the consequences by "throwing money" at crisis management.  Funding of education beginning with early childhood intervention, concurrent with better training of and full accountability from our educators and policymakers nationwide, should be our nation's top priority.  If that is a promise Obama can deliver, then he will have my vote!
Funding education is thee most important factor in contributing to my vote.  Obama has some great ideas.  He has my attention.  What I question as a parent and an educator is how districts are expected to meet standards in which they have high populations of Special Education students and Non-English speaking students.  Those two groups cause districts to miss annual yearly progress set up by the government all over the US.  My thinking is that those on an Individual Education Plan (IEP) should not be held to the same standard as the rest of the district and that these teachers for special populations already have enough on their plate with the mountain of paperwork and manditory reporting they must do that has been set up by the Gov.  Also although I am not for deportation of illegals I am concerned about the amount of money paid out by us to educate them and their affect on the No Child Left Behind.  We need solutions to this problem.
The "two groups" mentioned by "Thinking in Minnesota", namely Special Education and LEP (Limited English proficient) students, do not cause districts to miss AYP (Average Yearly Progress) - abysmal gaps in our state and federal government reporting, monitoring, and funding requirements processes are to blame.  Special Education students, in particular, are already getting the "short shrift" in our public education systems nationwide, as evidenced by alarming data both publicly and not-so-publicly available for research.  As many as 1/3 of all students in our country need or will need some sort of education accommodations during K-12 and beyond, and yet a staggering percentage of these are underperforming academically or dropping out of school altogether by Grade 9.  This is not because of their inability to learn, but because of a system that penalizes both students and educators for the need to support and address FAPE (Free Appropriate Public Education) for these students.  These children are not the problem, but they do represent our future.  Sweeping them under the rug and out of sight is not the answer, unless we are willing to place the burden of a very large and expensive population of institutionalized adults upon our children and future generations of Americans.  The answer, instead, lies with our government leaders' willingness to step up to the plate and either reform NCLB, IDEA and the ADA to address these serious deficits undermining our children's education, or take a wrecking ball to all of it and start from scratch with a better system.  It is time for our state and federal governments to address the "real" problems by requiring and financially rewarding LEAs (Local Education Agencies) and SEAs (State Education Agencies) for full, accurate accounting for Special Education and LEP student progress, programs and services, by the numbers, instead of by maintaining a system that encourages LEAs and SEAs to massage the numbers in competition for federal funding.  


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